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How do you get hired at a tech company with a math degree?

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How do I get hired at a tech company with a math degree?

Most tech companies require one of the below skills:

Programming Experience:
>I have elementary programming experience, but not enough to become a software developer.[taking a class post-graduation but just started].

Data Visualization Experience:
>I don't know Tableau or any other Data Visualization but can learn quickly.

Statistics for analyzing data:
>I only took a basic Statistics course.

SQL:
>Never took a data base course

Certifications:
0 tech certifications

Basically it disqualifies me from most data science, programming and analyst jobs.

I have to look for jobs in marketing, HR, tech support or positions that require a background in something.

Only jobs I'm qualified for are jobs that require no tech skills, no cert skills and 0 background. Might as well not have a degree.

Group theory, Real Analysis, Geometry skillsets are 99.9% useless to majority of companies I'm looking at.

Jobs that are qualified for are ones I don't need a degree for.

NOT trolling. ANY Advice? I'm already going back to school to get skills in those areas I lack. But in the meantime still have a useless pure math degree.
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>>8325032
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the math meme strikes another victim.
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>>8325032
>math degree
>0 tech certifications
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>>8325035
Thanks, been doing many of those items on my own but just started.

>>8325038
Yeah, I busted my butt taking many pure math courses only to graduate with 0 "real world" value.
Code monkeys have a better chance to get hired than I do. I might as well never have went to school based on the min. requirements companies are looking for (i.e. I don't satisfy any of them).

>>8325042
cert studies would have made me more employable. Better than had studying group theory, which 0 companies care about.
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>>8325032
Learn to code (for real). Make some show-off portfolio projects. Don't be retarded. I got into the field with zero experience and no degree just by building some stuff and putting it on GitHub. A math degree + side projects should be plenty to get you an interview.
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>>8325032
>I only took a basic Statistics course.
>Never took a data base course

If you think any of this matters I've got bad news for you...
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>>8325062
Thanks. I have a few projects I worked on I could put on GitHub. Never thought of that. Despite being able to learn data structures & algorithms it takes time to learn and I just began. if I apply for companies now they'll drive me on that and I barely opened up CLRS. What do you recommend?
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>>8325032
The value of a math degree is not in what you know, but how your brain has been conditioned to think. If you don't already realize this, then yeah you're fucked.
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>>8325073
Don't fall for the "muh high level CS theory" meme. Just start writing code, and you'll start running into problems solved by data structures/algorithms that are neccessary for industry work. You'll suck ass and your code will be shit, but it will slowly get better if you just keep coding and, more importantly, reading other people's code.
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>>8325066
Most data science positions require statistics (beyond basic statistics), Big Data, Programming knowledge, Data Visualization, etc.

Or the ability to take unstructured data wrangle it into semi-structured or structured data and then derive insights for business value.

That means being able to do SQL commands, write java code, understanding data base structure, etc.
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>>8325084
Ok, will do. Thanks.
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>>8325062
Very interested to know more. What job did you get, and where? Can you describe the project you put up on GitHub? I want to know what I need to aim for. If you wouldn't mind, even maybe share your GitHub link?
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>>8325085
>That means being able to do SQL commands, write java code, understanding data base structure, etc.

And none of that has anything to do with taking college courses. Everything you mentioned can, and should be, easily learned through self study and practice.
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>>8325032
Fucking hell why are you so wet and pathetic.

do you need other people to tell you exactly what to do for everything in life?

If you want to work fro a company then why dn't you go onto the company website, look underthe careers/work for us section and look at their graduate opportunities and see which positions interest you and which ones have prerequisites that you fulfill.

You're never going to work for one of these companies because you're too stupid and lacking in initiative and resourcefulness to realise this.
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>>8325032
Physics grad here. Was in the same boat, I worked at a patent writer for a law firm for about 6 months. The pay was shit. 37k a year, lousy commute etc. Eventually I got fired for screwing up a dsp system for a headphone company and they were sued for a lot of money (this was in the papers). I spent 3-4 months learning C++, computer architecture and core java and algorithms and data structures. I made a few apps with this new found knowledge and put my resume up on indeed, LinkedIn, monster and a couple of others and then I got hired when a recruiter reached out. Hope this helps.
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>>8325093
Yeah, I completely agree with you there. I already started loading up on self-studies through Coursera, Udacity, Udemy and the like. I'm starting to pick this up through self-studies very quickly.

I self-studied for a programming course over the summer and now acing the course in an actual university setting due to it.

I am learning more through self-studies and more quickly than I ever did in a classroom.
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>>8325092
>What job did you get, and where?

Midsize startup in SF doing front end Javascript, some PHP and SQL. Eventually moved to iOS/Objective C after they trained me on the job.

> Can you describe the project you put up on GitHub?
Just a bunch of random bullshit. I went the JS route so it's a lot easierr to show what you can doo. Stuff like this: http://alhill10.github.io/CoverFlow/

People just want to be able to see your style and know you can do what you say you can. Other than that it just comes down doing well in the interview with white boarding.
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>>8325100
Thanks, this helps a lot.

>>8325095
>If you want to work fro a company then why dn't you go onto the company website, look underthe careers/work for us section and look at their graduate opportunities and see which positions interest you and which ones have prerequisites that you fulfill.

I did and all the positions worth looking into require what I posted. They want someone that came come in code, knows linux, be able to be a data scientist day 1 etc.

I'm already studying the shit out of CS (algorithms, data structures, programming) and picking it up pretty quickly so I imagine I'll close the gap fairly fast.

Right now data science, machine learning, deep learning and all those buzzword meme fields are hot, hot, hot and pure math is useless.
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>>8325117
Thanks brother. You uplifted & motivated me.
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>>8325117
>Stuff like this: http://alhill10.github.io/CoverFlow/

Really? I'm still new to coding, but that doesn't look hard at all. How long does you (or an average person) to go from zero to coding that? Just a few months, right?

>>8325118
>algorithms, data structures, programming
can you please give me some names of the books?
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>>8325127
>Really? I'm still new to coding, but that doesn't look hard at all. How long does you (or an average person) to go from zero to coding that? Just a few months, right?

It's not hard at all. Web dev is braindead simple shit that pays really well for some reason. Any intelligent, motivated person can learn enough to get a six figure job in about 6 months of full time study.
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>>8325136
what languages did you learn, and which ones would you recommend? I'm doing C# right now, looking to do Python next, but I think those are not big on web dev, right?
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>>8325143
C# is a great language, probably the "best" IMO. But yeah unless you're doing backend work in a Microsoft shop (there's plenty of these, but most are more geared to senior devs) it's pretty useless for web dev. Stick to Javascript/NodeJS, Java, maybe Go, and learn HTML/CSS inside and out. Also there's a lot more to the web than just programming languages. You need to completely understand how protocols like HTTPS and TCP work.
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>>8325148
Thanks man, really appreciate it. Also, what's your salary on that SF gig? I'm in Europe so salaries are a lot lower here, but just out of curiosity.
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>>8325155
Ah yeah Europe is generally half of what it is here. I started at $95k.
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>>8325167
I'll take half of $95k without a second thought!
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>>8325167
OP here. You've been incredibly helpful. I'm learning Java right now. Any recommendations on where to start with Javscript/NodeJS for the complete noob?
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>>8325032
yeah, see its not about whats on your degree. its about what you can actually do.
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>>8325032
lol just create your own start-up dude
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I failed algebra in middleschool because they said: Alluminum is farmed by JFK on Jupiter, then cocaine was in it.

Freshman year the whore drew a ciricle after she said I was late to the first day, she said "It is not 360."

I can start fires and Illuminate Islan, also stuck in a lavishing home; breaking into peoples houses dumpping IP PLUG, then smash router running.
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>>8325379
schizo detected
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Your IP is the guys who sid the future is Nuclear cocaine, Rosenrot oh Rosenrot, tifelbittr.
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My midschool teachers, please get smashed anon.
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>>8325035
Why would you even screenshot this trash you retard

How to become a kickass mathematician without taking classes:
1. Learn highschool geometry
2. Learn highschool algebra
3. Learn highschool precalc
4. Learn calculus
5. Learn how to write proofs
6. Learn modern algebra
7. Learn statistics
8. Learn combinatorics
9. Learn analysis
10. Learn numeric methods
11. Learn topology
12. Learn number theory
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>>8325032
Basic SQL is really easy to learn and the top 3 vendors (Oracle, MS, Postgres) all offer development databases for free. You don't seem to be trying very hard.
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>>8325444
That's barely a minor dude
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>>8325118
>pure math is useless.
Just curious, did you think otherwise while you studying the subject?
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>>8326649
yes because everyone was obsessed with it
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>>8325032
Apply to:

trailofbits
NCC group
Accuvant

google those. They are security corps that hire mathematicians. Do you know Satisfiability? Cryptography? Then they want you to be a paid intern. https://blog.trailofbits.com/2016/08/09/work-for-us-fall-and-winter-internship-opportunities/

Also, why are you not doing data science/machine learning? Get this book and play around with the tensorflow library https://bleedingedgepress.com/tensor-flow-for-machine-intelligence/

If you don't know basic Python then do this course http://www.kosbie.net/cmu/fall-15/15-112/schedule.html (hint: each lecture title links to a video page/examples).

You should also do this, since you're a mathematician https://cryptopals.com/
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>>8326660
>pure math is useless

Abstract math teaches you to think abstractly. It literally changes your thinking which is the point, university education is not learn these skills so you can work at McCareer, it's change your thinking, so you can excell beyond everybody else at McCareer.

If you actually have a math degree and aren't bullshitting us then you should be reading and doing SICP right now. You should follow that by a quick introduction to Lagrange eq so you can read SICM. Then you should read this: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/functional-differential-geometry

When you're done, apply to google as an intern for their quantum computing research team because they're using Lisp for the operating system
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>>8325032
One of the profs at my university worked for Microsoft Research in Seattle and he only had degrees in Mathematics... but those degrees were Bachelors from MIT and PhD from Harvard. He told us that he had gotten the position through connections, and that "connections matter".
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>>8326709
I worked at Microsoft's shady research center in Canada for 3 years. (shady, as they use it to import pajeet PhDs to avoid US immigration laws)

It was full of mathematicians, and none of them had any connections they simply sent a general application and noted they were mathematicians willing to learn and were hired.

It doesn't matter who you are at MS, when you get hired you go to school for about a year to learn their software and development process. It's literally F/T school, at MS "univeristy" and working doing pair programming afterwards.

There's also about a hundred startups on angellist right now looking for math degrees which is why everytime I see one of these posts bemoaning 'i took math and can't find a job' I just think it's trolling on cruise control.
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>>8326704

But why would i get a math degree just to get critical thinking skills when i can do computer science or engineering and get that and useable skills?
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>>8326866
>Bachelor's in Mathematics
>Master's in Computer Science

This seems to be like a good combination between theory and application.
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>>8326709
here.
>>8326866
>>8327395
>>8325032
I also know a student from my uni who did Bachelors + Masters in Mathematics, then PhD in CS at Stanford. He works at a top company in Silicon Valley now.
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>>8325074
that's a meme lie though, literally nobody who hires real-life employees actually cares about how his brain has been "conditioned to think" by a math degree
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>>8326704
holy shit do you even realize how full of memes you are? SICM is a meme book that covers only a literal soph/junior level mechanics course. that doesn't qualify you for shit
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>>8327837
>>8327853
Samefag
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>>8326696
OP here,
Thank you!

>>8327828
I'm planning to pursue a PhD in CS at this point.
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>>8325032
You can't do anything with just a math degree, math degrees are just additional qualifications. If you want to get a math degree, you need to double major.
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>>8328470
Too late. Already have a pure math degree. Complimenting it with a PhD in CS
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>>8326499
>a minor
You mean an american masters?
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No i think that's almost a bachelors in science
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