Was he human?

No.

Some say he was the next step in human evolution.

I think he was secretly a x-man

Would you suck his dick?

just because.

Why didn't they clone him?

He's overrated.

He was a virgin potato

"John von Neumann was an amazing mathematician and had an amazing calculator. He also had a photographic memory: he could effortlessly recite long passages from novels that he had read twenty years before. He of course played an instrumental role in developing one of the first stored-program computers at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. In those days, von Neumann was extremely active as a consultant. He was constantly coming and going, all over the country, to government agencies and companies, giving out the benefit of his erudition.

During once of von Neumann's consulting trips, Herman Golstine and the others working on the new computer got it up and running for a test. They fed it a large amount of data from meteorological observations, ran it all night, and came up with very interesting solutions in the morning. Later that day, von Neumann returned from his trip. Wanting to pull a prank on Johnny von Neumann, they decided not to tell him that they had the computer up and running, but instead to present their results as though they had obtained them by hand. At tea, they told von Neumann that they had been working on such and such a problem, with and so data, and in the first case had come up with .... "No, no," said von Neumann. He put his hand to his forehead, threw his head back, and in a few moments gave them the answer. It was the same answer the machine had generated. They they said, "Well, in the second case we got .... "No, no," said von Neumann. "Let me think." He threw his head back—it took longer this time—but after several moments he came up with the answer. Finally his collaborators said, "Now in the third case ...." Again von Neumann insisted on doing the calculation himself. He threw his head back and thought and thought and thought. After several minutes he was still thinking and they blurted out the answer. John von Neumann came out of his trance and said, "Yes, that's it. How did you get there before I did?"

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>>8314309
This man is scary.
>>8314313
Yeah, something like that.

>>8314309
I think he was a unicorn!

>>8314309
statistically he was not human, at least in terms of intelect.

No he was a Jew

he greatly contributet to the construction of the atomic bomb so part of him was not very human

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>>8314766

>>8314473
i wonder how many fictional super geniuses were based off him

how cool it must have been to have comic book level hyperintelligence

>>8314309
Or was he dancer?

>>8315291
I honestly can't help but believe some of it is bullshit though. I mean...no one can be THAT good at mental math can they?

>>8315320
It is very well corroborated in many accounts. He really was like that.

>>8315334
Fucking hell why even bother learning mathematics? I do sports and eat healthy and that potato is the smartest mathematician ever.

>>8315334
If you really believe that being good at something only takes eating healthy and doing sports then you're an asshole. Everyone has a certain capacity limited by their own genetic inheritance. This guy's intelligence was incredible because he was born with it. The rest of us have to get used to being in the low-normal to high-normal range and do whatever we can do with it.

>>8315385
>If you really believe that being good at something only takes eating healthy and doing sports then you're an asshole.
Well, that's what I'm pointing out. It doesn't matter how direct and indirect effort you put in it. You're bound to be a brainlet for the rest of your life.

>>8315441
Sorry, I didn't mean to quote you. I was referring to >>8315351

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)

run of the mill HUNG-ARYAN boys, nothing special

>Although Max insisted von Neumann attend school at the grade level appropriate to his age, he agreed to hire private tutors to give him advanced instruction in those areas in which he had displayed an aptitude. At the age of 15, he began to study advanced calculus under the renowned analyst Gábor Szegő.[19] On their first meeting, Szegő was so astounded with the boy's mathematical talent that he was brought to tears.[21] Some of von Neumann's instant solutions to the problems in calculus posed by Szegő, sketched out on his father's stationery, are still on display at the von Neumann archive in Budapest.[19] By the age of 19, von Neumann had published two major mathematical papers, the second of which gave the modern definition of ordinal numbers, which superseded Georg Cantor's definition.[22] At the conclusion of his education at the gymnasium, von Neumann sat for and won the Eötvös Prize, a national prize for mathematics.[23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann

>>8314309
The most humane robot there ever was

>>8315351
What the fuck does sports and eating healthy have to do with being good at math?

What a fucking retard you are; just fuck off somewhere else.

>>8315480
>What the fuck does sports and eating healthy have to do with being good at math?
>What a fucking retard you are; just fuck off somewhere else.
Bad diet and insulin resistance are a thing and they slow down your cognition. You know, your brain is not ethereal but is part of your body. Then, we're not going to discuss whether physical exercise is beneficial, do you agree? On top of that I'm spending most of my time doing mathematics this summer. Fucking cunt think before posting.

>>8314473
>He also had a photographic memory
No he didn't. Photographic memory doesn't exist.

These fucking hagiographies were written about a bunch of scientists and now ppl take them as facts. Half his accomplishments are fucking nonsense and lies.

For example, he didn't invent "von Neumann architecture". In fact, he had NOTHING to do with it. He just wrote a report for some USG agency about what's being used in computing at that time and one of his nuthuggers named the architecture after him.

Anyway, he was very smart but he was a flawed character. He was obsessed with fame and being famous. That affected his scientific output as he was wasting his life away on unimportant shit.

>>8315544
he had an eiditic memory. dont need to be an autist about it and play the semantics game.

for all intents and purposes his memory was perfect, probably as perfect as a human could ever achieve.

he really was just that amazing.

he had the greatest intellect and greatest memory, and he was 100% neurotypical. he was not on the spectrum.

he got a perfect dice roll. no need to be butthurt about it.

just think, it's been 500 years since we've seen someone whose mind is regarded so highly (newton). it will likely be another 500 years before we see it again.

just be glad you were born within distant memory of one of the greatest human minds to ever exist in thousands of years.

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>>8314309
>IQ off the charts
>near-perfect memory (also probably photographic memory)
>teen prodigy
>one of the greatest mathematicians of the Modern Age
>ALSO a universal genius like Leibniz and da Vinci
>ALSO neurotypical, no assburgers at all, just had some eccentricities
>well liked by his peirs, charming and sympathetic guy all around
WTF, how can normies even compete, lmfao?!

>>8315727
>how can normies even compete

I can't and I feel like shit desu

>>8315117
Good ol' Johnny "Bomb the Commies" Neumann.

>>8315727
>neurotypical, no assburgers at all
You say that like it's a good thing.

>>8315544
>No he didn't. Photographic memory doesn't exist.
He had eidetic echoic memory. Do some research retard, that's a thing. Photographic is used interchangeably with eidetic in common language.

>>8315702
>newton
newton got fucking nothing on euler. dumb nigga newton thought there was a relationship between the bible and numbers. sheeit.
euler went blind and his productivity went up. ever write f(x)? euler. kek yourself.

>>8314473

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>>8314309
Von Neumann was the epitome of human intellect.

>>8316515
>epitome
nope. a perfect example of human intellect would be a median IQ person.

JvN would be something like the acme

>>8314309
No. He was Hungarian.

>>8316515
Von Neumann was a brainlet. He even looks like a potato in a suit.

>>8316544
He actually had Down's Syndrome. Not even trolling.

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I've always been amused whenever I drive by this church, because I can't help but think of JVN whenever I see the sign.

>>8314473
Is this from 'Surely you're joking mr. Feynmann?'. I'm reading it and i could swear i read this passage before.

>>8315702
>he was 100% neurotypical. he was not on the spectrum.

This is in my opinion the most remarkable thing about him.

Forget all your socially awkward autists, the greatest mind to ever live was a fat bon vivant who loved parties and socialising.

>>8316633
He's like the inverse Nash. I find it amazing he could socialize so well while being so intelligent, you'd think there would be some disconnect. Anyone he talked to he talked on their level or rose them up ( read some anecdote about him talking to a 3 year old ). Dude was walking charm.

>>8316633
desu senpai I admire feynman and neumann more than aspie maths motherfuckers just because of their outgoing personality. Sure he might've been an ass to his wife but feynman was one hell of a guy to hang with

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>>8315117
>mfw this isn't fake

>At Princeton he received complaints for regularly playing extremely loud German march music on his gramophone, which distracted those in neighbouring offices, including Albert Einstein, from their work.

what a guy

>>8314473
It's not fucking fair

What chance do we have?

>>8314473
Ahahhahha what a load of bullshit. This potato faced brainlet doesn't even have a single contribution to the world of mathematics.

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>Neumann
the literal meme person

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>>8316661
>>8316054
>>8315351

>since I am not the greatest mathematician of my age I should give up studying mathematics
since I'm not the smartest man to have ever lived I should kill myself

why do people think like this? Lmfao!

>>8316681
You jealous faggot? Go back to b with your shitty bait

>>8316716
I don't know, maybe they are still inside their comfort bubble zone. They have <<ego>>dreams.

>>8316725
>neumann fanboy got BTFOd
dawww does neumann look like your dad and reminds you of your fathers penis or something ? Is that why you keep spamming these garbage threads all the time?

Neumann is meme tier at best and you'll have to accept it

>>8316716
It's not about being. It's about not having chances. There's no hope if you can't even delude yourself. Theoretically your competing to be no more than second.

>>8316731
>They have <<ego>>dreams.
Sure you don't.

>>8316752
*Surely.

>>8316681
>>8316701
Spot the frog poster who posts the same picture on every Neumann thread.

>>8316580
Well, JVN was a Catholic

>>8316645
yeah lol, subconciously he probably didnt even differentiate between a child and someone we would identify as a genius.

just think, the manner in which you'd converse with a child could very likely be the same compensation for a difference in cognitive ability compared to neumann talking with a nobel laureate.

>>8316855
Spotted the neumann poster who keeps spamming these retarded threads everyday.

>>8316747
I don't mean to offend, though I realize that's what I kind of have to do, but you're not very smart are you?

You cannot change what you're born with, thus as a measuring stick it's irrelevant, unconstructive and useless. Even then, there are over 7 billion people on this planet right now, making it statistically realistically impossible for you to be the very best in anything at all. Simply the complexities of any task we can perceive make them so that the very best in one aspect of a specific, specialized task, will be second best if even that, in another aspect of the same task. Dreaming of being the very best is delusional, unrealistic, and again immaterial.

If Neumann represents the best of intelligence, why did he not contribute more than he did? Because no matter what he did, he was just one person. A person with limited time, limited amount of experience, limited education, professional aid, physique... all of that.

I didn't phrase any of the above very clearly, my apologies for that. But my point is this: To *truly* let yourself be aggravated because you aren't the very best the whole of humanity has to offer in something is one of three things:

1. Stupidity: You don't understand what you're asking for.
2. Psychological disorder: Like a narcissist or a sociopath of some kind, you're unable to grasp the idea that no-one on this planet, including yourself, is irreplaceable or omnipotent. You're just a person.
3. You're lying: This whole thing is just an excuse, a charade you use to explain to yourself why you won't even have to try. "Why bother, I'll never be the best". It's just an excuse, like why race without million dollar race car, why date without a handsome face, why do anything at all without an enormous advantage over other people.

Ultimately, you can be insanely successful with just some talent, and whole fucking lot of hard work. If you're not there yet, don't blame your heritage. Because that's ALL on you, and nobody else.

>>8316995
>why did he not contribute more than he did?
He actually did contribute massively with more profundity and significance than many genius overachieving type people could ever hope to accomplish. However, given the magnitude of his genius, yes it can feel like he didnt achieve "enough."

Here are some reasons:
+ He died relatively young

+ A great deal of his time was diverted to cold war/political efforts

+ His genius was so severe that he simply could not remain in one field for too long without getting bored, preventing him from making a large amount of truly groundbreaking progress in any one field

+ He had a passion for thinking and knowledge, and thus had a pretty equal interest with all academic fields, which cut his productivity accordingly.

+ Although neurotypical, he had a lot of confidence/self-esteem issues (in part due to his fame/renown as a high genius), and for a large part of his career he stayed away from original thoughts and instead chose to work on already established issues (which neumann critics call picking low hanging fruit).

It's unfortunate because he was just starting to embrace his own intelligence and work on original ideas and thoughts when he developed cancer and died.

A big chunk of his academic time/potential was taken away due to the cold war, which he essentially saved us from, so i guess we can't complain.

It really seems to be the case with neumann, ramanujan and others, that a candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. (although for neumann-tier intellect it would be more appropriate to say five times as bright).

Most of the anecdotes are patently fake by the way

>>8317012
>His genius was so severe that he simply could not remain in one field for too long without getting bored, preventing him from making a large amount of truly groundbreaking progress in any one field
tfw your superior intellect prevents you making a groundbreaking progress

>smartest man to ever live
>believed in the Christian God
Checkmate, niggas.

>>8314441
His math lacked taste and conviction.

>>8316660
>His colleagues found it "disconcerting" that upon entering an office where a pretty secretary worked, von Neumann habitually would "bend way way over, more or less trying to look up her dress."
> Some secretaries were so bothered by Von Neumann that they put cardboard partitions at the front of their desks to block his view.

>>8317042
Only on his deathbed

>>8317042
>yet another protestant using the word "Christian" in order to obfuscate that he very clearly converted to Catholicism.
Checkmate huguenots. You're gonna burn in hell.

>>8317078
dat game theory and pascal's wager

>>8316995
Here's the guy you quoted. Thank you for the thoughtful post. Much appreciated.

>>8314309
No, he was a martian posing as a Hungarian. He even admittes to this.

>>8316523
you dont know what epitome means, chum

>>8317602
He does.

Epitome means exemplifying the typical case.

The epitome of human intellect is yourself with your 100 IQ.

The apogee of human intellect is Von Neumann.

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>>8317733
>is yourself
>misusing reflexive pronouns
>not even misspelling them ironically

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look at him
look at his potato face

>>8314309
OR WAS HE DANCER