Whats inside a black hole ?

Another black hole.

black people

>>8280890
It depends on where you are and how you're moving. If you already fell into the black hole, there will be everything that fell inside.

All the events beyond the event horizon.

>>8280890
ur mom

>>8280890
The center of a Tootsie Pop.

>>8280890
The entire universe 4-dimensionally inverted.

I'm not sure your question makes sense op

Maximally dense matter

>>8280890
some black holes have white holes in them
the white holes bounce matter off of them

>>8281127
how much is the max

A singularity

>>8281191
Singularities don't exist

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>>8281191
>A memeularity

>>8280931
Actual correct answer.

black hole stuff

In concept a black hole is just a cencentration of a shitload of mass. Just a massive object with gravity strong enough that light cant escape

The implications that arise from this are however, insane.

>>8281177
infinity :)))))))))))))

>>8281163
>off of
ignored.

>>8280890
>Whats inside a black hole ?
my dick

>>8280890
My hypothesis: black tar heroin

Prove me wrong.

>>8280890
Harambe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI9CvipHl_c

all space and time condensed into a single point, which is experienced for an infinite amount of time and is over as soon as it began. the nature of a black hole can't be comprehended by a human mind but its fun to speculate

>>8280890
I highly doubt there's anything 'inside'.

As other anons have said there's just a massive concentration of mass there, and anything accreted onto the black hole is simply ripped apart anyway.

>>8280890
poop

>>8280931
>>8281248
It's only correct for an observer on the outside.

>>8281422
Dank meme, bro

>>8281450
The asker of the question is, so it is the only point of view that we care about. Anything else is just semantics.

>>8281202
> citation needed

>>8281483
That's just your opinion because you're outside. I bet they're laughing at you from the inside.

>>8281426
The gravity would kill you, anyway.

>>8281738
you don't know that

>>8281746
speak for yourself

>>8280927
Jesus with you people and this quasi-intellectual BS. Throw a little collapse of the quantum wave potential dickström on it won't you?

It depends on A B and C exactly as much as the contents of your room depend on whether you walked inside or not: Time. That's it.

>>8280890
A black hole, is simply the area of space in which the pull of gravity is so strong that not even light can escape. This pull originates from the gravity of super dense matter packed up in an area smaller than the sphere forming the event horizon of the black hole.

That's all we know, really. Beyond that, it's estimated that it's likely that beyond such a critical point, the matter would have to be packed into an area no larger than a single unit of planck length in radius, the smallest measure of length we have. This is what's referred to as the singularity of a black hole.

So what's inside the black hole besides super strong gravity and the singularity? Just the space, contracting forever into that singularity, and whatever stream of matter passes the event horizon into the black hole, on its way to the center.

All this talk about white holes, worm holes, other dimensions, super strings etc... I'd ditch it as wishful thinking, and made-up stories by the ignorant media and scientists hungry for fame. Until someone actually comes up with something more than outlandish figments of imagination stemming from purposeful manipulation of well known weak points and flaws of the known theories.

In a black hole 3d space is compressed so much it's flattened into 2d space. It becomes a 2d universe.

>>8281961
>That's all we know, really

It's all you know, actually.

>>8280890
Degenerate matter

>>8280890
my BBC

A big bang in a different universe
Hear me out

This big bang is being fed matter from our universe, once the black hole evaporates here, gravity will become non-infinite at the singularity (big bang point singularity in the other universe) meaning time will stop being frozen at the singularity, further meaning that the point big bang in that other universe stops being frozen in time, causing the big bang in that universe to commence.

It creates a new universe.

This is my idea donutsteel

>>8282366
That would just make an explosion in our universe.

>>8280890
The tightest pussy in the universe.

Best answer in this thread: >>8280908

>>8280890
Nothing, they don't exist. That's like asking "what did santa clause eat?" or "what color are god's eyes?"

>>8282410
>black holes don't exist

>>8282410
Anon you dumb

>>8282377
No because the black hole has evaporated dude.
It goes one way

>>8282436
The evaporation is what causes the explosion. The smaller the black hole gets the faster it starts evaporating.

>>8282410
He ate cookies and the eyes are blue of course

>>8282442
Ok fine so there's an explosion from the evaporation here in our universe but it still leaves all the matter in the singularity ready to explode in that other universe

Unless you mean the evaporation causes a big bang level explosion in our universe which is not what I mean.

>>8282459
You're just saying random words, aren't you.

>>8282475
You clearly don't understand the marvel that is my theory.

>>8282054
>>8282366
>A big bang in a different universe

There is a theory that blackholes are 2d holograms projected into 3d space. What if the new universe being created is a 2D universe. This would imply that the 3D universe we're inhabiting exists within the blackhole of a 4D universe somewhere and that our universe will bleed out hawking radiation and eventually die.

>>8280890
This "black hole" name. I always find it funny because in my understanding a "black hole" is actually a "quantum-soup blob".

>>8282526
You don't even have a hypothesis.

>>8280890
Maybe a blackhole,or a stairway to heaven,or perhaps it's just a probability distribution?>>8280908

>>8284145
Knowing about the inside of black holes is impossible because once you go in, information can never be transmitted out of it to others

It's equivalent to Godel's Incompleteness Theorem - in order to get near proving undecidable theorems you have to go towards the limit of infinite on the number of characters in attempted proofs of that theorem, the same way you diverge from an area of space whose information is accessible from ours upon entering a black hole

>>8284148
Stephen Hawking thinks there are "hairs" on the surface of black holes that preserve some information. This means for every black hole there is a 2D version all the information within this universe, projected onto the surface of the 3D black hole in our universe

We are three steps above the 0'th dimension, imagine what sentience exists in the 4th and above

Most people ITT don't seem to understand that most physicists do not accept singularities anymore.

Which leads me to believe most people ITT are getting their info from outdated popsci books.

>>8280890
Me

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>>8281426
I've been looking into black holes lately and the entire concept of everything inside the event horizon is driving me fucking crazy

Is it really true that space warps to such a degree that there is no other existing physical direction than towards the singularity once you pass the horizon?

If another universe is inside a black hole wouldn't it be a tiny cuck universe in comparison because of the amount of matter being fed in

>>8284603
If you found out there was another universe out there 100x the size of our own, would you say ours is a tiny cuck universe?

>the amount of matter being fed in
Also I thought all matter essentially gets broken down as it enters a blackhole, so it's just energy inside.

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>>8284603

>>>/pol/

>>8280908
I came here to post literally (yes, literally) this. FPBP

>>8284583
The correct way to think about it is that the gravitation potential created by a black hole is so large that no amount of realistic kinetic energy can surmount it. It's like how you can't jump off the face of the Earth no matter how hard you try. Your legs cannot overcome the gravitational potential created by the Earth.

>>8281208
Isn't this a pornstar?

>>8280931
popsci get out

Stupid question.

If I fall into a black hole fast enough would I avoid spaghettification?

>>8280890
A point that is really fucking small, really fucking dense, and really fucking heavy.

>>8285069
No.
I do not believe you can "fall into" a black hole quicker than it will drag you in once you're close enough to become spaghettified.

The spaghettification is when a object becomes compressed by the black hole, and you will become compressed.. sooo... you know..
Spaghettification is unavoidable.

Why do you ask anyway?
Quite odd question if I may say.

>>8286360
Acutllay, edit.
>The spaghettification is when a object becomes compressed by the black hole
That's not the entire truth, actually.
A black hole spaghettifies everything due to its extreme magnetic force rather..
BUT, that magnetic force is there due to the compressed mass..
So.. yeah..
I mean, we're still talking about theories. Eventhough we believe ourselves to know certain stuff about deep space, I'm quite certain we don't even know 0,1% of what there is to know, and 80% of what we actually do know, I think will end up being false.

Shit is too complexe for our technology and even our brains.

>>8280890
Nothing, black holes just input what is caught by their gravitational pull, cruch it, and spew back out extremely high frequency, high power, short distance gamma radiation at its poles which degenerates into lower frequencies as it moves outward. It works a lot like any other given star, it just works kinda weird due to the given extremes.

I like to think of it in terms of scalable objects pushing against objects stopped. If I exert force a onto object a-2 against object b-2 being held by force b-2 they cancel out, the only result of the interaction being some energy being released away from the interaction, like crushing walnuts against eachother, the only outcome is the walnuts changing form into crushed walnuts and the release of sound wave and change of form.

I mean, that's how a star works? force of gravity pushes elements into eachother, changing form, the outcome of which is the changed form and the energy released from that interaction. Same with a black hole. Only instead of the material being Hydrogen among other things, the material is exotic like light, all things really, and if you'd like to venture the thought, gravity itself being squeezed into a point and the result of that interaction is the change of the material doing the interacting and the release of energy from that interaction.

>>8286411
Or I should say the release of energy from the change of form caused by the interaction.

>>8281426
>can't be comprehended by human mind
>it's 1880 and what is modern science

That's awfully short sighted and pessimistic, not realistic, I think. I mean, what have humans been doing since the first time we cracked open a nut with a rock? Finding a bigger nut and a good rock to crack it with. That's what we do, shit that we don't know if we can do.

>>8280890
Unfortunately, all we know about what's in there is that the matter went in there and its gravity still pulls on all around it. We have no idea what form the matter in there takes under such enormous crushing force. We know there is gravity enough to exceed the quantum degeneracy pressure of the atoms that fall in. What do they collapse into? We can't even calculate that at this time, because the Theory of Relativity breaks down and yields infinities in the conditions within a black hole, and we have not been able to reconcile relativity with quantum mechanics to generate a theory of quantum gravity yet.

>>8286439
So stuff goes in but nothin come out?

>>8280890
Your mothers anal cavity.

>>8280890
Everything that it has sucked up, condensed into a ball.

>>8280890
Yo mamma

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>TFW they are vaccuums from another universe, sucking up our photons and matter to reduce entropy in their own universes by making it an open system

Stop stealing our stuff, ayy's

>>8284583
Well the physical directions pointing outwards still exist, if thats what you mean. You just can't manage to go in those directions, because you are being directed towards the center.

Don't confuse warped spacetime with warped space. If you reversed time, then you would travel back out, the physical direction never ceases to exist in the black hole.

>>8287801
Is time fast enough to escape a black hole?

>>8281420

Black tar heroin is synthesized on earth by earthlings using plants found on earth that evolved in this specific environment.

>>8284154
>most people ITT are getting their info from outdated popsci books
ITB*

>>8281420
I hypothesized meth but black tar heroin is equally as good.

>>8282377
>Implying the universe isn't exploding right now

>>8280890
Recently I heard an idea that when a blackhole reaches a certain critical mass, the other side of the hole would "explode" into a new universe. like the big bang theory. That's the simplified explanation I heard so I don't know the details. but I still think that's interesting idea

>>8284153
And when a black hole dissipates (correct me if I'm wrong) then what happens to this "information"?

>>8280910
Lol

>>8280890

It was proved that black holes are a path to another dimension/universe/whatever you want to call it.
It's just impossible that all the matter disappears.

>>8280890
The answer to everything. Too bad we will never able to see it.

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Nothing

>>8288616
In a certain way it isnt

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Could you actually possibly "see" the singularity, assuming you are just behind the EH?

Me about 20 min ago

>>8284153
this might be some of the most retarded pseudoscience nonsense I've ever heard

what if a black hole just a wormhole past the absolute edge of space into nothingness?

>>8291239
you'd be long dead before reaching the EH, anyway

also, how do you propose the mechanism of "seeing" anything would work when you're in or around a black hole?

>>8291278
>you'd be long dead before reaching the EH, anyway
I know. You would also never cross it. This is purely hypothetical

> how do you propose the mechanism of "seeing" anything would work when you're in
this would be part of the answer Im looking for. I have no idea

>>8291291
well, if you're asking if a singularity is there objectively, sure. from what ""data"" we have, it seems likely.

but you asked if we could "see" the singularity, and that is something else entirely. when's the last time you heard of someone still retaining their ability to see after their fragile human eyes were squished? also, if you're past the EH, you're continuously moving towards some center or singularity, light could not possibly reflect back into your hypothetically still-functional eyes. if you're not quite at the EH (behind, yes?), then you're just looking at a big blank blob because, again, no light escapes.

>>8284656

I would collapse her into a black hole.

>>8291239
Even if you were alive, no. No light comes from the singularity, it is all pulled towards it. Therefore, you wouldn't be able to see anything in the direction of the event horizon. Just like how if you are outside of the event horizon you won't be able to see past the event horizon.

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>>8281961
Nope
The event horizon is a surface in space-time. Events past that point never occur, and have no time coordinate associated to them. An object falls in and leaves our universe

>>8281282
The black hole does not "pull things so hard that not even light can escape"- it warps space around it so much that the only physical direction to an object close to it is towards the event horizon.

>>8281191
We use a singularity to model motions of all objects in space- the center of mass is handy to calculate orbits, but not relevant or necessary when used to describe black holes.

>>8284583
Don't listen to the other anons- yes this is true

>>8291810
>An object falls in and leaves our universe

but the mass still exerts gravitation in our universe

are you okay

If nothing can escape a black hole, then how does it eject matter?

>>8292050
The accretion disk orbiting it gets really, really hot. It turns into plasma, creates a magnetic field and can redirect bits of plasma and gamma rays and into tight beams

>>8291810
How correct is this post?

>>8292057
So the ejection isnt from the hole itself, but being flung out from the accretion disk?

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>>8292009
Special relativity slows time for the object falling in until it freezes at the horizon. For observers, the object slows and then redshifts into invisibility. It's mass never enters the hole, but remains in a near- timeless state just above the horizon

For the object, it falls right into the BH as the whole universe decays and ends around it. Time speeds up until the motion of stars is visible to the naked eye.

The horizon is the boundary of actual events- inside, we have no idea what would happen
If you're excited about this, that's great, but don't pretend to know anything about it and spread your popsci plague

>>8292073
Right
The only way the BH looses mass and energy is by emitting gravitational waves and Hawking radiation

I'm taking this thread as a black hole general.

So I know it's possible to "see" an object behind a black hole or other large mass because the light is affected by the gravity and changes direction, but is it not also possible for this to occur on both sides of the black hole, and you see a duplicate of this object?

Can time escape a black hole?

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>>8292095
Definitely. The lensing can actually make you see four copies of the object behind it.

>>8292101
>>8288616
>>8291234

>>8280890
another universe

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>>8280890
Something like ultra-compressed shit with mass big enough to absorb more shit outside, even things like light. Then more mass black hole has, then more things it can absorb. In fact, that statementright for everything in our universe, even for you, my dear nerd. If you were looking for non-scientific explanation, that's it.

>>8292088
>it falls right into the BH as the whole universe decays and ends around it
But if the black hole evaporates due to Hawking radiation before the universe decays?

>>8292303
Then instead of enjoying the universe - you simply see it end, get broken up into constituent atoms - get spread in the form of hawking radiation and that's about - just don't fall into black holes.

Do the centers of galaxies attract swarms of black holes?