Okay guys (and a few girls, i suppose)
What's the future of evolution? Cybernetics or Genetic augmentation? Pick a side, debate and post thoughts and articles that corroborate your stance.
No, "both" is not a valid answer. Stop being a little bitch and compromise already.
Suggesting alternate opinions is valid and highly encouraged.
I feel like Genetics is the safer way to go, Cybernetics are just to fragile in my opinion.
A genetic augmentation drug that is able to be spread through all forms of media (air, water, etc) wins.
>>8238043
As a weapon or as a form of treatment?
Shit, that is sounding a lot like the T-virus, mate.
>>8238022
Personally, I would prefer genetics simply because it means we as a species won't degrade over time and become more and more reliant on cybernetics as well as the fact that cybernetics could easily be damaged, hacked, etc., but the issue is that people don't want to do this genetic stuff because
>i-i-it's unnatural
>i-its against god
or something else along the lines of them thinking their baby is going to turn into an abomination
Obviously cybergenetic. Our physical bodies are our weakness, why we try to keep fixing something that is broken. Replace the shit with something that actually works.
If you fuck up your genetics, you can't fix it like you can fix a piece of machinery.
>>8238053
>implying people don't degrade over time
>implying people are not gullible enough not to be "hacked" as it is.
>>8238022
Cybernetics can be hacked while genetics cant thats the only reason to oppose Cybernetics.
>>8238092
Genetics can acquire diseases while cybernetics cant thats the only reason to oppose Genetics
>>8238096
Genetics is biology its objectively inferior to mechanical technology which is cybernetics.
>>8238128
Genetics are adaptable and the result of billions of years of evolution.
Anyone who owns at least one machine (read: everyone) can tell they are very prone to breaking and even harder to fix.
Ya know, I'd go for cybenetic rather than genetic, mostly because of stability of the augmentation. Genetics can be a bit fickle at times (I will grant, though, that by the time that we can genetically augment people we can assume that genes are better understood).
Although, as long as it's decently regulated, I'd be okay with it.
organics are not stable enough for the timespans needed in interstellar travel.
Homo Sapien Sapien will never reach another star system. Though humanity will, as machines.
>>8238157
Whoah hold your horses man
Just what year are we talking about here, anyway?
>>8238022
>No, "both" is not a valid answer.
You're a fucking retard. The only way to go forward is both. The Borg genetically modify humans to be more susceptible to the cybernetic implants. It's a self-reinforcing loop.
This whole thread reeks of nature-denying Judaism. Have a sage.
>>8238056
>Our physical bodies are our weakness
Maybe if you're a scrawny DYEL.
>>8238362
kek. Damn the jews are behind Transhumanism too?
>>8238362
>>8238362
ure just nitpicking anon. there are some other dumbfucks who push transhumansim autism as well
>>8238022
There should be Spider-Man in the OP-pic.
You need genetics so your body doesn't reject your cybernetics, retard.
>>8238022
>What's the future of evolution? Cybernetics or Genetic augmentation?
>or
cybernetic --> cybernetic/genetic --> cybernetic nanotech
We're already in the cybernetic stage (pacemakers, artificial limbs, cochlear implants, etc), moving into the cybernetic/genetic stage, thanks to breakthroughs like CRISPR.
Cybernetic nanotech will integrate and improve upon nature. One concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respirocyte
I don't rule out mind uploading as the ultimate solution to augmentation, and no one should be so shortsighted and naive to do so.
>>8238965
This. Spiderman was years ahead of its time in predicting DNA inter-species integration.
>>8238022
why not both?
>>8238149
Still more efficient to maintain than bioshit.
cybergenetics
Transhumanism isn't flying car bullshit, it's more like robot butler bullshit: it's physically possible but the lack of knowledge and amount of resources needed are being severely underestimated. If it does happen don't expect a singularity since vast majority of people will not be able to afford this shit.
>>8238362
Wow only 8 people pushing transhumanism huh, who'd have thought it.
>>8240693
> If it does happen don't expect a singularity since vast majority of people will not be able to afford this shit.
Singularity means that the technological development is so fast that we won't be able to understand it. We're already seeing a prelude to singularity. The designers of AlphaGo had no idea what it actually did when it won. They had to do an extensive study for a few months to figure it out.
>>8238362
>pro-Christianity
>anti-divorce
>homophobic
>transphobic
>technophobic
Ok m8.
>>8239803
>I don't rule out mind uploading
The thing about uploading minds is the question of what you would keep.
Which aspects of humanity would be kept and which omitted/recoded?
>>8240704
>They had to do an extensive study for a few months to figure it out.
Source on this?
I'm very interested.
>>8240738
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_versus_Lee_Sedol
I'm sorry I can't quite find the article since I read it a while back when it first happened, but I'm sure you'll find everything that you're looking for at the link above.
But no I agree machines are easy to fix, genetics ate prone to mutation and replication making that shift way harder to counteract
>>8238149
>hard to fix
For you, biologist. I fixed my pond filter pump just yesterday
>>8238022
It's gonna be both, we are working on making computers that can interface biochemically with humans. However the base facts of our existence need to be enhanced so as to prevent unnecessary degradation to the system ie. aging, disease, metabolic dead ends etc.