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"White" = Half-Neanderthal

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Neanderthals evolved in Europe and interbred with the homo sapiens that moved there from Africa.

Is it likely the phenotypes that separate Caucasians from other human races came from Neanderthals?

Are non-white races "more human?"
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Why is neanderthal "less human"?
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>>8220619
Coz its more alien. It is known.
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you have 2% neanderthal DNA at best and most of it is in non-coding regions, you have 4 times more viral DNA that actually does things for you, asians have more denisovan DNA than whites neanderthal

it does nothing for you

>>8220619
apparently human+neanderthal offspring was very often infertile, making them a different species
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>>8220619
By that, I meant if they have more homo-sapien genes and less homo-neanderthalensis than Caucasians.
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>>8220621
Only when the mother was neanderthal.
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>>8220605
According to the studies, all humans outside of Africa have Neanderthal genes. Out of that group, Europeans have less than any other population.

So really if you're measuring more human it goes
Africans > Europeans > Everyone else
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Also, how does that reconcile with the fact that most European peoples come from proto-indoeuropeans that colonized Europe much later
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>>8220629
They are pure homo sapiens, so yeah
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>>8220629
>>>/pol/
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>>8220653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0
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>>8220629
what makes the other races apart from blacks and abbos is non-human/sapiens sourced.
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>>8220653
SHIIIIIIIIET YO FUCKIN CRACKAS HE DINDU NUFFIN shhhhhiet.
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>>8220685
You really are retarded.
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>>8220688
he statistically have more IQ than you and your other gang members.
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>>8220605
Sub Saharans have neanderthal DNA meaning the mixing occurred long before any of the current races of mankind existed.
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>>8220605
Neanderthals being less intellectual is actually looking more and more like a misconception, we recently uncovered the fact that they had been sailing up to 12,000 years before homosapiens. The only reason you think they are stupid or we were so smart we killed them off is because they aren't around. The most likely reason they died off is because they needed 5000 calories per day versus our 2,000 calorie diet.
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>>8220727
People dislike the notion that it's possible something net inferior ultimately made it, and that this thing was us.
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>>8220727
>they needed 5000 calories per day versus our 2,000 calorie diet.
I will need a source
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>>8220733
Here is the first article that popped up on google, you lazy reprobate. http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/10/neanderthals/hall-text/3
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>>8220733
https://books.google.com/books?id=QtR8Q2t4mTYC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=neanderthal+needed+how+many+calories+5000&source=bl&ots=szNw4JcqiM&sig=67udrqo2La5_is_qxbqSkgyce94&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKiOmpk4jOAhUI7iYKHfGXC6sQ6AEIKTAE#v=onepage&q=neanderthal%20needed%20how%20many%20calories%205000&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=igV0eDSOoQMC&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=neanderthal+needed+how+many+calories+5000&source=bl&ots=jkmrndE3FD&sig=SAermTaylDMrgSQHVzFiknrdyzQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_8__Hk4jOAhXIwiYKHVOSD-YQ6AEIIDAB#v=onepage&q=neanderthal%20needed%20how%20many%20calories%205000&f=false

http://www.scirpus.ca/cap/articles/paper019.htm
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The MFAP Hypothesis for the origins of Homo sapiens.
MFAP = "Monkey Fucked A Pig."

The hypothesis that humans are a pig-chimp hybrid seems to be gaining traction. Many of our organs are more similar to pigs than chimps. Most notably our hearts and noises.
What is your opinion?

http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html
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>>8220733
As Mark Sorensen of Northwestern University has noted, a European Neanderthal living in near arctic conditions would have needed about 4,000 kilocalories (more commonly called calories) a day to sustain himself. This compares with the modern needs of a typical, urban American male of only 2,600 calories. The problem today is that many of us are still eating as if we were Neanderthal
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>>8220744
Kek
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East Asians have more Neanderthal DNA than Europeans. South / SE Asians dont.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/science/a-new-theory-on-how-neanderthal-dna-spread-in-asia.html?_r=0

Native Southeast Asians have Denisovan DNA while East Asians dont. Melanesians & Aboriginal Australians have the highest concentration of Denisovan DNA in modern peoples. The people from SE Asia are the mixture of East Asians + Melanesians.

"In 2011, a study produced evidence that the highest presence of Denisovan admixture is in Oceanian populations, followed by many Southeast Asian populations, and none in East Asian populations."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/science/a-new-theory-on-how-neanderthal-dna-spread-in-asia.html

"Researchers also have found a peculiar pattern in non-Africans: People in China, Japan and other East Asian countries have about 20 percent more Neanderthal DNA than do Europeans."
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>>8220695
Your shit grammar proves you are an exception.
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>>8220727
Our 2000 calories a day is just a modern thing from a sedentary lifestyle. H/G humans probably need somewhere around 3500-4000 calories a day.
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>>8221267
*needed
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>>8220814
IQ comes from education and nutrition
Neither exists in Africa.
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Neanderthals were more intelligent and less violent that modern humans. It's why they lost. And we will be outbred and defeated by a less intelligent and more violent subspecies.
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>>8221631
Proof?

(oh wait, anyone with a brain already knows your claims are impossible to verify and are simply random shit you invented)

:)
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>>8221631
It's the exact opposite
Humans needed lesser calories to survive, humans made use of ranged weapons more, humans ran faster, humans were more nimble and could communicate easier
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>>8221631
>Neanderthals were more intelligent and less violent that modern humans.
Neanderthals were NOT peaceful at all. They had higher testosterone levels as evidenced in their exceptionally low digit ratios. Testosterone, by the way, increases brain size even though it harms intelligence
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>>8221631
Weren't neanderthals found to have injury patterns which are most closely mimicked those of modern rodeo riders?
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Ok so did we come from africa? Or did they find some old bones in africa and say we must of come from africa?

What is this homo sapien, sapien bullshit or whatever that people crap on about?

Some dude said whitie and blackie came from the same continent, is this true?
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>>8221718
prior to 1.8 mill years ago all human ancestral fossils are from Africa, there was a wave of homo erectus that left africa after than which became denisovans and neanderthal, and modern humans for the populations which remained in africa and this population left africa in a another wave (Out of africa 1 and OOA 2) and then interbred with the neaderthals and denisovans, i'm probably wrong on some details but thats the gist, look it up.
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>>8221729
but how do they know this? whats the science behind this theory lad?
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>>8221735
Are you asking this question before doing any research?
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>>8221740
yes
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>>8220703
>Sub Saharans have neanderthal DNA
wrong
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>>8221745
well, then maybe you'll have the ability to answer your own question without deferring to authority.
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>>8221750
i'm asking you though, its ok if you don't know thats fine just say it

also at this point in time i have no desire to start my own archeological digs and genetic analysis of human bones i find
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>>8221752
The internet is at your finger tips.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils

(get spoonfed retard)
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>>8221754
how do they date them? i heard theirs an issue with carbon dating, have you heard of that?
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>>8221746
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24988-humanitys-forgotten-return-to-africa-revealed-in-dna/
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>>8221760
You know that carbon dating is on;y used up till 50k years ago because of the half life, while other things such as potassium argon dating are used for other scales?
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>>8221765
makes sense

is potassium argon dating reliable?
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>>8221772
There's also uranium lead dating, there's multiple different elements with radioactive decay ranging from 5kish years for carbon to millions of years for a single half life.

argue with the chemists and physicists though.
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>>8221764
Got debunked a few months ago. They made a mistake in their calculations. I'll try to find a sauce and post it.
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>>8221847
I'm waiting
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>>8221856
Wew, was a pain to find.

http://www.nature.com/news/error-found-in-study-of-first-ancient-african-genome-1.19258
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>>8221872
>back-to-Africa gene flow, and it was a pretty big migration into East Africa

So there was still subsaharan gene flow, great refutation of the other anon.
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>>8221884
Into east africa only, which is why ethiopians and somalis have this caucasoid vibe to them.

It didn't go further south and further west.
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>>8221889
So he was right though, subsaharan, or are you using some /pol/ specific definition that changes due to ideology?
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How much Neanderthal DNA do Australian Abos have? Like 80-90%?
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>>8221890
subsaharan refers to the whole of subsaharan africa, not exclusively ethiopia and somalia.

Africa is not a country.
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>>8221894
subsaharan means somewhere subsaharan, or else france=europe according to your logic
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>>8221897
Jesus, I think you might be legitimately mentally retarded

>subsaharan means somewhere subsaharan,
No, subsaharan means subsaharan, just like European means all europeans, not just the basques.

>or else france=europe according to your logic
Well according to your logic, it's all right to
"europeans all suffer from finnish genetic diseases" despite only finns suffering from it. Because according to your stellar logic, "european" means "somewhere european".

Kill yourself.
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>>8221899
Yes? are you confusing nationalist memes for actual history?
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>>8221899
oh wait, you can't distinguish heterogeneous geographic distribution with homogeneous cultures?
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>>8221892
You would have to be one desperate imperialist motherfucker to rape one of these things
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>>8221908
>implying soldiers care, especially during times of war when they're expecting to die tomorrow.

(less war would be good)
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>>8221892
>>8221908
The hybrids look really fucking weird as well

I'm pretty sure arms aren't meant to reach down to your knees.
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we will only know for sure once we recreate them.
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