chemistry isnt sciense

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no it's art.

>>8207689
no wonder jobs for chemists dont exist

>>8207689
>after the role of a lifetime I've been "busy" lmao

bit butthurt
t. chem undergraduate

Explain. Not that I care, I'm an astronomy student working on my BS in physics, but are you kidding me?

Chemistry is just stamp collecting. "Oh look, I discovered a new molecule for our large list of molecules, how exciting..."

>>8207725
Haha ye

>tfw /sci/ convinced me to stay in chemistry after my first year instead of computer science
>tfw I finished top of my program and got experience with professors
>tfw I graduated over a year ago and can't get a job that's remotely related to chemistry while I work retail
> Meanwhile my brother graduated with comp sci and had 3 job offers before he even finished.
> He started at 85k a year, over triple what I make.
>Cousin makes more than me at his summer placement after 1 year of uni in comp sci

Why did I fall for the chemistry meme?

>>8207741
ye, chemistry is a meme

Chemistry is literally the dumbest path, desu. No jobs, no nothing, niggas. No women, no money.

Have fun being a high school teacher

>>8207741
Do you have bsc, msc or phd?

>>8207782
BSc

>>8207783
well there's your problem

>>8207784
every job is literally PhD minimum + 1000 years experience
if I get a PhD it'll make literally zero difference

>>8207788
because every job is PhD minimum, getting a PhD will literally make zero difference

>>8207797
ye xD

>>8207783
Look at it this way, you only wasted 3 years.

>>8207741

You didn't fall for the chemistry meme, you fell for the "taking life advice from 4chan is a good idea" meme.

If you were actually top of your class, then you should be able to get a job in your field. You sound lazy more than anything.

>>8207784
I know a lot of my TAs have just graduated and can't find a job. Even if I could it would take another 5 years and the job security and pay is still shit.

Idk if it's worth going back for another undergrad or just to try self teach myself more programming. That or teachers college but fuck chem is shit.

>>8207848
If you didnt like chem then whyd you do it?

Im a fucking undergrad and already have an offer for a company that makes enzymes

>>8207863
I love doing chemistry but I mean in terms of getting a job it's bad. The only jobs my class mates have that are in chem are lab techs for a dollar or two above minimum wage

>>8207895
They are doing there career wrong then.

>>8207895
>in terms of getting a job it's bad
If you live in the middle of nowhere, yes. Otherwise, you have no excuse. You need to search harder.

>>8207741
You must suck at your work. My cousin is a Chemist who works with polymers. He had a salaried lab position before finishing his masters, and multiple 150k+ offers before finishing his Phd.

>>8207750
Idiocracy is real, and this weab is proof.

>actually, all weabs are

>>8207783
lol'd

you should just get out of chemistry and leave people like me, who are already neck deep in their PhD studies, the scraps of any jobs left. and please quit making threads like this. it just depresses me. At least im studying a niche subfield in chemistry which has good job opportunities. no im not telling you what it is.

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>>8207783

did you ever once bother to look at the possible jobs you could apply for throughout your undergrad career?

>>8208448
something computational or related with actinides

>>8208460
nope

but my undergraduate research was in computational chemistry. its boring work and i actually dont see many people making a career out of it. its more of a tool in the chemistry world than a subject to dedicate yourself to. if be computational chem you mean: im going to learn to code as well as someone in CS and im going to learn and apply all of the computational programs in chemistry, then maybe. but i dont see many opportunities for those types anyway.

>>8207685
not true
but if you go chem you'll probably be working for waste management or some shit, and they'll probably only hire you because they can't do their own ph calculations.

>>8207741
anon
do comp sci and make DNA computers now

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>>8207685
can't argue with that.

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>>8207741
You should make drugs anon.

Where do you live Anon?

I carry a "Proud to be a Chemist" card I got from an ACS event in my wallet everyday . _.

>>8207741

Why don't you go for chem eng/pharma OP?

Stop making dumbass excuses for your shortcomings, be a man and solve the problem.

>>8210819
._ .

Can Physics major find job more easily than Chemistry?

>>8208448

Radiochemistry

>>8207846
this OP, I think you are lazy and haven't found a job because you haven't applied in enough places

>>8207689
Honestly, it is.
The B12 Synthesis certainly was a work of art.

>>8211093
This is the wrong board to ask that kind of question

Most people here are undergrads, with a few PhDs mixed in, and have no concept of what the real world is like.

Additionally most of them are pretty talentless, but since you're here as well I'm not going to assume you are any different

>>8208448
is it total synthesis f4m?

>>8207690
>what is big pharma

>>8208448
>no im not telling you what it is

pretty please?

>>8211093
nein

I mean, I'm a chemical physics major and some parts of chemistry are akin to biology where the material is just memorize this, but other parts are as legit as physics.

It really depends on your university and the courses you choose to take. Chemistry can be as much of a science as you want.

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so called chemists of /sci/

what molecule is this

>>8211680
nerve gas obvi.

>>8211680
DON'T ASSEMBLE A MODEL LIKE THAT IT MAKES MUSTARD GAS

>>8211680
Some organic shit with suphur and oxygen and nitrogen
Who even cares

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>>8211680
2 ez

>>8211106
nope, that's like sentencing yourself to death in terms of jobs. fucking walter white, the poster child for failed, brilliant chemist had a degree in radiochemistry

>>8211305
haha you got me! :^)

>>8211347
This is actually a legit concern of mine that could be worth years of my life, so no. Not even for trolling purposes on 4chan.

>>8207725
> Doesn't understand what chemists do
> Is it, like cataloging stuff?

>>8211695
>Mustard
VX is a mustard agent as much as cerebral palsy is a scab.

Is biology better than chemistry?

>>8212713
Plz I want to know

>>8212713
get a phd in math

>>8212713
Just about anything is better than biology unless you are doing genetics.

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>b8

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>>8211695
kek

>>8207685
What's the point of chemists - when computers can do the most work.

And much of the breakthroughs in the field are due to computer simulations.

>>8213060
What's the point of mathematicians
What's the point of physicists

Computers are coming for everyone, don't fool yourself

>>8213079
That's a good thing. We would need specialized operators then.

Or people that think mathematically but only in computer code.

>>8213060
what do you think chemists/material scientists do?

>>8213079
>>8213581
>>8213060
im into computer simulation for pharmacy, we optimize the code. then (outside of christmas holiday) we rent servers from amazon and search for new medical agents by trying out every combination

Science is lab coats and beakers. Chemistry does all of these things.
Ipso fatso, science is chemistary.

If you go into chemistry expecting to get a 6-figure job with a BS then you've fucked yourself.

>>8212389
>This is actually a legit concern of mine that could be worth years of my life, so no. Not even for trolling purposes on 4chan.

ok anon, whatever it is, good luck with it

Chemistry is the only relevant science.

>>8207783

I don't think the chemistry degree is a meme. It's a solid degree that provides a good base in the discipline, but it's not specialized. IMO, you need to specialized in your upper-level coursework and perform research in your sub-discipline of interest. If you want to stay in science, those two things are what get you to the next level -- work in research, grad school, etc.