Is there any proof that watching porn is bad for you?

>>8163970
Only if it interferes with your sexual or everyday life.

>>>/pol/

It can cause ED in some if you rely solely on porn for masturbation. It's good to have a balance of masturbation without porn and with porn. Or just get a fucking girlfriend.

>>8163973
My sexual life is my everyday life you pleb

>>8164014
And if you stimulation then, sniff and lick her mothers or sisters dirty undies.

>>8164014
>if you rely solely on porn for masturbation

Not OP but what if I vary my porn.

I have 3 different sources of porn and depending on how much I have abused on the other 2 in the past week I will choose a single one to jack off.

#1: /gif/ and traditional website porn. Here it is real women, what most people would consider porn.

#2: Hentai, usually reading and usually in black and white.

#3: Cartoon, usually reading and usually color. Mostly my little pony stuff

If I swap periodically between these 3 can I trick my brain into thinking that I'm not just doing porn?

Last time I had a girlfriend was last year and now I'm pretty busy so I don't think this will change any time soon.

>>8163970
This >>8164021 is what you become, literally scum asking to be killed

>>8164023
>my little pony, retarded hentai, crazy ole regular american porn
>if I swap periodically between these 3 can I trick my brain into thinking that I'm not just doing porn
What is this guy's intelligence :^)

>>8164066
I can resist the sweet and bitter aroma and taste of her virgin yubnub. It is best when she's just taken them off for a shower, still warm and moist , yum yum!

>>8163970
Yes. The easiest to point out is the fact that you are too lazy and retarded to research it yourself

Not only is porn bad, everything aside from hardship is bad. Music? Makes you non-verbal. Movies? Unreal and inconsistent. Humour? You are basically emulating mental illness.

People are fucking weak, their intellect stops where their feelings begin. Hedonism is basically a highway to mania, dopamine desensitization and depression. Then you will either kill yourself of take the next dirty step in your addictions.

Don't take me wrong, I am for porn on mainstream movies and television, I am for kids not being raised in a pornless bubble just to overdo it when their bubble pops. Mostly, I want realism. But this is purely intellectual, it is not for faps, I won't tolerate shit plots like we get today. Just plain watching it isn't bad, but it sure means that society is going crazy enough to film themselves putting dicks in anuses, which is bad.

If you want to stop fapping, I suggest to limit it to once a day, then skipping a few days, then trying for weeks etc. I suggest you stop using stimulants in the process, that you get busy somehow, help your neighbors or study Physics.

>>8164086
You are shit.

>>8164095
You should ejaculate at least once a week, or you increase risk of prostate cancer.

>>8164100
I know, pornography/masturbatory addiction has turned me into a letcherous pervert. :(

>>8163970
I watch porn all the damn time and I also have a gf.

>>8163970
I've got a good case study OP

it's called your life

>>8164102
This comes from One source only: "Men who averaged five or more ejaculations weekly in their 20s had significantly lower risk. "[ The Cancer Council Australia, 2003]
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1464-410X.2003.04319.x/abstract

Then there is this: "A 2008 study concluded that frequent ejaculation between the ages of 20 and 40 may be correlated with higher risk of developing prostate cancer."
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2008.08030.x/abstract;jsessionid=0832846F7E29A728A3F9F494A02340F3.f04t01

You can see the second has more scientists involved if you click the links. You can check the studies on scihub, the educated guess so far is that there is no causation

http://yourbrainonporn.com/

>>8164113
Oh shit, I'm fucked!

>>8164113
Further on:

"Abstract

To investigate the possible role of celibate lifestyles in the etiology of prostate cancer, analyses of mortality from cancers of the prostate and other sites among an average annual cohort of 6,226 Roman Catholic clergymen in New York State from 1965 through 1977 were conducted. The death certificates of 1006 (95%) priests were reviewed. Of these 156 deaths were attributable to malignant neoplasms. Clerics experienced mortality ratios of 15% less for all causes of death and 30% less for cancer mortality, given mortality patterns among New York State white males of comparable ages. Twelve deaths from prostatic cancer were observed while 19.8 were expected. This represents a mortality experience significantly less than that of the general noncelibate population. Lower mortality ratios were found also for cancers of the lung, colo-rectum, and stomach. Higher mortality ratios were found for malignant melanoma and unspecified respiratory organs."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7242091

Here is the only study that says there is a small correlation between masturbation and cancer free prostates:

http://sci-hub.cc/10.1046/j.1464-410X.2003.04319.x

Here is that 2008's study

http://sci-hub.cc/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2008.08030.x

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>>8164023
>my little pony

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>>8164023
>Mostly my little pony stuff

>>8164095
Won't I go crazy if I don't indulge in any form of entertainment?

>>8164023
Why can't you fucking learn to masturbate without porn?!! It's normally a lot better without porn. And then porn goes back to being the amazing shit from when you first watched it the first time.

Porn ruined my fucking life

Turn it off now and save yourselves

You will wake up one day and regret everything

>>8164095

Okay. That's enough autism for today.

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>>8164023
>Mostly my little pony stuff
rrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
filthy clopper

>>8164023
>>>/trash/
and STAY there

>>8164023
went to e621 after reading this post

>>8163970
In short, no.

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>>8164140
Ever since the scientific community became involved with gender and sexuality, I honestly can't take them seriously on such things. I can almost feel the agenda behind this shit.

>>8163970
I seem to be doing just fine with it

>>8164095
>Humour? You are basically emulating mental illness.
WHAT

>>8163970
you're relying on it to masturbate, making you jack off more than you normally would.

this isn't scientific. it's common sense. if you jack off more than you normally would as a human being, you'll feel like shit.

>>8165022
>this isn't scientific. it's common sense.
And that's how I know your post is pure bullshit.

>>8165103
Testosterone level while making apes ejaculate, decreases their T levels, while making them have sex don't.

You can check this out on some good research website.

>>8163970
Your life

>>8164095

Entertainment has become so readily available and so high definition that much of what you write is very true.

What we need is for "useful" things to be able to compete with dopamine-releasing entertainment. Or to adaptively steer the dopamine release process as a function of usefulness so that behaviour will be regulated accordingly.

>>8165143
Are you telling me some bunch of "scientists" wanked off a monkey and called it "research" ?

>>8165254
They used some prostate stimulator though.

They tried to not touch it's dick.

>>8164288
>>8164290
>>8164362
>>8164365
not that guy, but I used to frequent /mlp/ 3-4 years ago and you'd be surprised how fragile your sexuality is, it can happen to the best of us

>>8165143
Simply making ejaculate and fapping while fantasizing are completely different. They don't even know if the apes were aroused or even horny at all. With the sex they obviously were. Porno may not have the same effect on apes as humans. We have more imagination and ability for immersion. So many variables at play. All I know is that personally I both fap to porn while and have frequent sex with my girlfriend.

>>8165318
>may not have the same effect on apes as humans.
Or not.
> We have more imagination
Good point.

There is another research where they show this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241/

If you give it an "interest" focus, there is no purpose to make me go absent of fapping, while there is a good purpose to low my testosterone levels.

I read somewhere ejaculation highers your xenostrogen levels which lowers your T levels.

>>8164023
I realy need to catch up on mlp so that i can start looking at pony porn again without worrying about spoilers.

>>8164095
>/sci/ - Science & Math

Are there any studies on effects of porn on males vs females?

>>8164095
How does music make you non-verbal?

>>8163970
A had similar questions few years back, I was googling like crazy, asking people on reddit, reading stuff... I found nothing interesting or valuable, everything sounded kinda pseudo-scientific.

So I started experimenting on myself, went without porn for some time, without fapping and came to a conclusion (pun not intended) that porn is not good, but is not nearly as bad as fapping.

Will share more info if you want.

>>8165735
He's full of shit about his entire post. He doesn't even know what he's saying. With that said, I listen to music less than most people. I make people uncomfortable with how I drive in complete silence. They always want to turn the radio on when they drive with me and it always throws me off a little bit. I'm very a very non verbal person.

>>8164014
>Or just get a fucking girlfriend.
>masturbation without porn

Those are significantly easier said than done. The latter is virtually impossible and the former doesn't even guarantee sex. 100% of my relationships have been long distance thus I have sex like once a month most of the year.

>>8165784
Please elaborate the negatives of fapping. I'm pretty sure everyone who went into this thread wants to hear.

>>8165832
Read the thread.

>>8165832
First of all, everything I say is just about me, I should have that said in the previous post. I don't think fapping is bad in general, but for me it is the worst thing I can do to myself and I would encourage everyone to try nofap for at least a month to get more data and compare the results.

Just after fapping, my motivation hits a rock bottom - I don't want to do anything, not even the things my mental system rewards me for like eating something sweet or whatever, I just want to nap and do nothing. This state can last for a few days.
Another thing is memory, when on nofap, I can recall things much more quickly and I remember learned info much better.
Overall, fapping makes me dumb as a rock, especially the first few days after the last fap. I cannot connect the dots in the simplest problems, even in the ones I've previously solved. I don't feel as sharp as I can be on nofap.
These things might be just placebo but hey, it works. But the last thing is purely mental - I don't feel like an animal trying to procreate, I feel like a human, I feel like I am using my brain in an interesting way, not just for activating the reward system and then chilling.

I did not read the thread, I'm too lazy to do that but too feministic/vegan-like to shut up

>>8165864
>afterglow lasting several days
Your technique must be amazing.

>>8165864
I have a reason for asking; were you aware these effects could happen before they happened to you personally?

>>8165883
Dude you have no idea
I could get just before the climax and stay there for ~10 mins and when I came it felt like 3 orgasms at once

>>8165892
Some of them, I read somewhere that you are more energetic when not fapping, the memory thing was something I discovered

>>8165864
>too feministic/vegan-like to shut up
I'm something described by that generalization and not as full narcissistic as you, so go figure that a fapmaster supreme fulfills the true meaning.

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One of the following, depending on your brain's inherent addiction related properties:

1) You get desensitized and go cold turkey for a lasting period of time, possibly developing a sexual dysfunction;

2) You get desensitized with your current material and end up seeking progressively more depraved stuff, eventually landing on snuff and CP. At some point fantasy will no longer be enough and you'll seek to bring them into reality;

3) You'll actually become hypersexual and start getting randomly and inappropriately aroused for no apparent reason.

>>8165902
Or
4) You'll be perfectly fine?

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You won't get any credible up-to-date studies because exposing human subjects to pornography is no longer considered ethical. Look it up if you want.

There's only stuff from before the ban was implemented.

>>8165921
If you're one of those extremely rare people who lack the capacity for addictive behaviors, perhaps.

Keep in mind that those are borderline asexual to begin with, though.

>>8165933
Hate to break it to you, but almost everybody watches porn. Including normal people.

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>>8164023
>my little pony

>>8165946
Hate to break it to you, but it's about ~70% of males and ~50% of females per last survey.
Have you asked every single one of them if they have signs of any of the issues listed?

>>8165819
If it is significantly hard for you to achieve ejaculation without porn you most likely have a problem.

>>8164095
>Not just fapping and then studying physics
even better
>not doing both at the same time
>not fapping to physics
>in the actual anno domini 2016
Get a load of this fucking plebian

>>8165973
legit how does he think people fap before porn

>>8164014
ED ?

>>8165973
It's becoming harder for me.
Or I have to think about really fucked up /d/ material things to get anything done with imagination only.

>>8166015
Welcome to being a druggie.
Turns out excessive masturbation is similar to taking drugs and developing resistance.

>>8166011
Encyclopedia Dramatica
one of the worst things that could happen to you
Pretty fucking awful if you ask me

>>8166023
Sadly I think that's it.
When I was at a boarding school without a good internet access I didn't watch much porn, but now with a regular access every fetish of mine is slowly becoming mundane and I have to deviantify some of them even more to rekindle the flame within myself.

>>8165970
You're implying that the majority of the population has a sexual problem.

>>8166073
You're implying that it doesn't. Sexual problems are fairly common in the modern world, the only thing that varies is severity.

>>8165864
Thanks for sharing. How you described your motivation to be after fapping actually sounds really similar to how I feel a lot of the time. I'm actually going to try nofap for a while like you suggested.

>>8163970
Is there any proof that porn watching you is bad for it?

>>8165894
>Some of them, I read somewhere that you are more energetic when not fapping, the memory thing was something I discovered
Hm, trying to figure out if this is placebo/hypochondria or not, this sort of thing interests me

>>8165902
>At some point fantasy will no longer be enough and you'll seek to bring them into reality;
That's a massive fucking leap

My only concern over it is the time consumed. I only fap 2-3 times a week on average, but spend 2-3 hours each time, possibly with a few to several hours outside of that just surfing. I'll occasionally go a week or two without fapping at all on account of not having a good opportunity (out on vacation, too busy with work/school). I dont feel compelled to fap, but rather conclude "that sounds nice about now," or "I havent fapped in a week. I need to find an opportunity before a nocturnal emission soils my sheets."

The reward for novel content is evident in my mountain of bookmarks, though I don't believe I suffer from desensitization - I enjoy normal porn alongside depravity. I've never been able to properly arouse myself by imagination just because I struggle to maintain a fantasy in the vivid detail necessary, though I can work myself up to start with, and with vanilla fantasies.

I feel like I'm in some odd limbo where I carry some core aspects but not others. Ultimately I believe any problem I have is internet addiction rather than porn or masturbation addiction, and that it is mainly procrastinatory stemming from poor diet, exercise, and sleeping habits.

To pull back to the original question, only if your sexual characteristics predispose you to addiction. I don't know why it is that some people feel like shit after masturbating, but I guess that'd be a factor as well.

>>8165927
what the fuck