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What does /sci/ think of the new names?
>Nihonium
>Muscovium - I called this one :^)
>Tennessine
>Oganesson
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>Nihonium
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>>8131946

First blush: I like them, nice mix of place names and some dude's name.

I also love that the row is officially done now, in the most important sense. They should declare chemistry to be over and not look for anything higher, so as not to screw up the table.
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>>8131977
>not look for anything higher
There's still the island of stability to look forward to
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>>8131991

Nope, that's as fictitious as the Round Earth and the New World. And how can it exist if it's not in nature and we don't make it?

118 elements. Nice looking, standard table. we're done. :^)
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>>8131946
117 was made in russia, should have russian name
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>>8131946
I like Tennesine. It has a nice ring to it and is easily pronounced unlike a few other elements.
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>>8132065
Pls hang yourself
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>forcefully connect particles
>Call it new element
Why is this allowed?
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>>8132692
>>forcefully connect particles
Oh man, that's good.
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Nihonium, Moscovium, Tennessine, Oganesson.
Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Tennessine Nation attacked.
Only the Avatar, master of all four elements could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.
A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an Oganesson bender named Oong.
And altough his oganesson bending skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone.
But I believe Oong can save the world.
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>>8132744
made my day
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What do people think about Ts being the symbol? I saw someone write that it could be confused with tosylate, but then again I feel like they'd be unlikely to be in the same paper so it might be a non-issue.
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>>8132692
>Lacks basic understanding of what an element is and how it's created.
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>>8132833
Collide. What else?
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>>8132840
I am not saying they don't collide. You are asking why it's allowed for them to collide atoms to create new elements. Well, that's exactly how elements are created in the first place, nuclear fusion.
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>>8132847
If your "element" falling apart after few nanoseconds then it's not an element, but a pile of particles sticked together
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>>8132092
Tsarine
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>>8132830
It's a great symbol, if we can manage to react it with titanium then we get TiTs.
>>8132840
Holy shit we actually might be able to do this.
>>8132854
A nanosecond is a long time, some chemical reactions happen in shorter time periods
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>>8132854
Not an argument
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>>8131977
For many chemists the table was done with decades ago.

All these new elements are important as nuclear fusion of Uranium to chemists.
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>nihonium

GRORIOUS NIHONIUM KATANA
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>>8132953
FUSIONED ONE THOUSAND TIMES
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>>8132652
Uh loo muh num
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I like all of them except oganesson. It seems a bit too long and rough for an 18th group element.
It also sounds really unnatural in greek.
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>>8132971
Yurion sounds pretty cool.
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>>8132922
chemist here, does anyone actually deal with lawrencium at all? I occasionally use the universal forcefield for setting up shitty molecular dynamics sims and lawrencium is as far down the table as it can handle.
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>>8131991
These are the island of stability. They have half lives of microseconds instead of nanoseconds.
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>Tennessine
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>>8132854
Hah. At some point this is a valid argument.
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>>8133213
If you ignore its etymology, it's pretty nice.

Which means it's pretty nice and you're just irrationally biased against Tennessee.
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>>8133206
>microseconds instead of nanoseconds.

That's revolutionary
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>>8132840
Hmmmm
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>>8131946
>McNhOgTs
I'm loving it
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>>8132854

If your universe is falling apart after a few billion galactic years it wasn't a universe to begin with, but a pile of particles sicked together.
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>>8133225
You have something against winding rivers?
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>>8133019
I never saw anything beyond Uranium used for anything at all myself.
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>>8132854
If your organism falls apart after a few decades then it's not an organism, but a pile of molecules stuck together.
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>>8132896
I like it
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>>8131946
Those final two break the naming conventions established for elements but I would be ok, although not really thrilled, with Tenessium and Ogansium
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>>8135041
What? Look at the periodic table, -ine and -on are used for the last two columns.
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>>8135048
Sure but people giving the provisory names for 117 as Ununseptium and 118 as Ununoctium shows what a mistake those were
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>>8135048
>>8135092
Upon reading my reply I realize it wasn't really clear enough; 118 isn't even a gas
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>>8131946
>literally not calling it Elerium
faggots
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>>8135092
They were only placeholders, and it is quite unlikely that we'll ever get to the end of the next row (because super-actinides), so it was only just those two.

As to whether 118 is a gas or not, it's sort of hard to confirm experimentally when you have a sub-millisecond half life. Relativistic effects can really make things crazy.
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>>8132953
>>8132956
> Nihonium

Oh boy, I sure can't wait for Japanese anime to use that whenever they need material with magical bullshit properties.

> In b4 new Gundam series where Japan discovered stable isotops of Nihonium to build a Gundam
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>>8132692
>>forcefully connect particles
>>Call it new element
>Why is this allowed?

Next we're going to crash Charon into Pluto and tow the result to a new orbit so it can be a planet again.
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I'mma just leave this here:
https://www.change.org/p/support-lemmy-tribute-name-newly-discovered-heavy-metal-lemmium
http://lemmium.org/
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>>8132854
I was going to add one about shitposts and a pile of bullshit stuck together, but that one would be true so I'd ruin the chain.
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>>8131946
>still no J on the periodic table
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>>8134732
Americium is used in smoke detectors- that's why you have to change them every ten years.
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>>8131946
Oh god don't tell me chemistry is following physics into useless bullshit. Californium is the last useful element, all the others are useless curiosities. We should really stop funding this research.
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>>8135377
I agree. We should stop where we are, at 118.
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>>8135432
No! Not until we've had a "sodium party" with 119!
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