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So anon found this book in his grandfather's belongings after he passed. Supossedly. Would love to know if it says anything or is an excellent prop.
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bump for interest
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Prop or not, I'd say that looks pretty dope.
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>look at my undestructible book

there is nothing some thermite can solve
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>>8096596
>>8096599
>>8096601
>>8096603
>>8096604

I am quite interested in this, hopefully someone answers with some information.
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>>8096610
It really sucks that konosuba became popular because now I can't claim that by liking it I am superior to the rest of you.

I actually did not think people on the internet could recognize good anime but I guess sometimes they get lucky.
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Pretty cool if you ask me
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>>8097064

Is it pretty cool ?
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Spoilers: It is just religious scripture.
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It's a Quran.
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I thought it would be a cool prop for a movie or even dungeons and dragons. No idea how to read it though
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>>8096596
The book is in binary code....
What was your gramps?!
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>>8096596
pic related

>>8097440
it seems to be in chunks of 9 digits, which tells me... nothing actually.
I'm not very knowledgeable about binary,

000000000 is 0
000000001 is 1
000000010 is 2
000000011 is 4
[...]
111111111 is 512
But that doesn't really give us a lot linguistically, does it?

The first character in the book is 101000111, or depending on whether the characters are organized could be 101001101 or 111000101.

Numerically those values are 327, 303, and 453 respectively, but I don't quite know what to do with that.
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>>8097467
Under modern 8 bit theorem the binary should be divisable by 8 to derive english meaning...
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>>8097484
>modern 8 bit theorem
kek
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>>8097484
>I'm not very knowledgeable about binary

:(
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>>17705781
>>17704013
>>17710407

Previous 3 threads on it.

Also OP's grandfather was a Freemason, not sure if that sparks any ideas but it's additional information.
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>>8097467
>>8097467
Try binary in base 3 or base 9
Then translate it to binary in base 4

Then run it through a text generator. Was your gramps English?
Do it for teh lulz.
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>>8097541
Sorry fucked that up, actual links:
>>>/x/17705781
>>>/x/17704013

And the current one:
>>>/x/17710407
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>>8096596
Oh wait...what if its simpler than that....
Try adding all the zeros and ones page start to end line by line wherever gold rings are present on the lines. Any anons want to slowly ring the zeros up?

If all fails we can invert them to ones and zeros.
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>>8097543
I'm not OP.
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>>8097541
A-anons father was a wh-what?
>tfw sci just got out in the fucking mystery machine.
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>>8097541
Thread just got spooky.
Hold me based mister skelatal and feed my bones....

What was OP Grandfathers home country language?
Masons have ties with hebrews too so try ascii for hebrew as well....
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If you guys read through the /x/ threads you'll find we plotted out the different symbols on a 9 figure grid each and found there to be similarities.

I don't think it's a mathematical code. We have posited the suggestion it is a dual-alphabet cypher, a theory which is given some credence when you look at the split between 3 and 5 link symbols and the diffusion of the latter across the last page.
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>>8097588
>>8097543
apparently German.
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>>8097543
>binary in base 3
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>>8097588
>ascii for hebrew
what.

why do so many people think this shit is encoded in ascii anyway, ascii was published in 1963, this very well could be older.
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>>8097600
So German and Hebrew...
We are looking for German and Hebrew and Latin language.... we need to use the razor....somewhere in this clinking of chains is a word in these languages....
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>>8097588
German, but we need to at least get characters into a format that can be deciphered before we start looking at languages. The Hebrew angle is interesting, though, as we've run into vowel problems when running it through decrypting programs, might be worth looking into.
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>>8097601
Brother is that you?
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>>8097608
>woke up this morning expecting shitty memes and popsci
>got epic thread and feels instead
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>>8097610
>>8097601
>ITT
Relics
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Assuming it is read from left to right, and OP got the orientation correct, the five single-sided pages are...
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>>8097644
This is excellent. We can invert with ease in this format.
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Are the golden ones actual gold?
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>>8097644
You're a hero.
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>>8096596
why have you been pissing this shit over every board?
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>>8097644
Why did you use those numbers instead of the regular ones?
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>>8097644
And here it is in 3×3 format, with the first occurrence of each character noted.
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>>8097644
Turn it sideways.
See the matrix.
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>>8097650
Because it's fucking quality OC and a mystery to be solved you simpleton.
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>>8097650
>not wanting to summon an eldritch abomination

For shame
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>>8097694
Some things to note.

The symbols appear to be composed of arrangements of 8 rings in a 2x3 ring formation (2 additional rings being woven in the center).

The spacing between blocks supports this.

When two words appear on the same line, the space between is made very apparent, as in lines 2 and 5 of II.

The text isn't fixed width, as can be seen on the last line of III.

All symbols have 3 or 5 rings.

There are more than 26 glyphs

It is not clear if numbers or punctuation are among the glyphs.

There also appears to be a great deal of symmetry in the glyphs. (Not that this is unusual, ie pqbd).
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>>8097694
If some characters are two-wide rather than three-wide, any of the three-wide characters with an empty middle may in fact be a pair of adjacent one-wide characters. Just a thought. Great work.
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>>8096596
>>>/x/
They would probably find more interest in this
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>>8097746
See:
>>8097555
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>>8097650
I posted it once. Here. Fuck off faggot.
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Did anyone try "Braille"?
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>>8096596

Lol that's a modern binding technique faggot

Nice fake

kill yourself
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>>8096596
I can actually read the title. It says:
MAXIMUM
FAGGOT
STARRING: OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YYNPnql9YI
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>>8098653
/thread/
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>>8097644
First page=
TITLE

AUTHORS NAME
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>>8098653
fake WHAT
it's a book made of chainmail. what the fuck is it supposed to be if it's a fake?
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>>8096596
Its Hebraic you faggot
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>>8098692

read the op you braindead cunt
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Dont you guys heard me?
IT'S FUCKING HEBRAIC!
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>>8098711
Didn't quite catch that, one more time with feeling please.
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>>8097703
>a mystery to be solved

It's gibberish, and it's hilarious to see people chattering away about all the "progress" they made with grown-up cryptography techniques in reference to writing that's basically a 3D version of the scribbles cartoonists use to represent text.
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>>8098653
How modern? It's entirely possible OP's grandfather made it in the later years of his life; nobody's claiming it's ancient.
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>>8098745
> I have no life
> I have no skills
> Therefore I must resort to shitting on other people's enjoynent to find purpose in my existence

3/10 bait, try harder shitdick
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>>8097650
It's likely to be an alternative reality game.

They have posted these in the past to recruit people for what I assume to be SIGINT work. This is probably a test for people who have the mathematical, computer science and electrical engineering capability to follow it.

I sadly do not, but I suspect others on here do.
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>>8097082
Yes.
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>>8099115
I'm enjoying watching you pretend the shiny art project has secret Masonic meaning. Why are you shitting on MY enjoyment?
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>>8097644
Why is everyone saying that each character is a grid of 9 digits? There's only 8 positions, see pic related, as every character will fit inside that.
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>>8099247
I would agree that it was 3x3 if there were a "middle" position on the far left side, but as it stands it just looks like a block of 8 bits to me.
Red, Orange, Green, Blue, Light, Dark, Purple, Grey.

So, for instance translating off the first page from >>8097644, we get:
>line one
11001011 10101000 10101101 11101100 11100101
>line two
[indent] 10101101 10001100 11100101 11100011
>line three
[blank]
>line four
[indent] 01010010 [extra space?] 10011000 01010111
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>>8099137
It's not fucking likely to be that
you spend too much time on /x/
As far as we know, it was just an art project.
However, I do think it would be super interesting if the symbols did carry some meaning, but evidently all the brainlets on both of the boards are too retarded to actually find it.
Even if it did, it's probably nothing more than OP's gramp's favorite lines of scripture, or if OP's gramp was a CS or Mathematician, maybe it's a collection of proofs.
Who fucking knows.
In any case, if nobody's able to figure anything out, I'd like to adopt what
>>>/x/>>17733522 suggested.


>>8099247
Oh shit, there's not a single character that has a middle position in the left column.
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>>8099261
You know what, I don't actually know how to quote from another board, I'll just post the image.
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>>8099111
This.

I was really suspicious when I saw OPs images, because the rings look like they're in really good, shiny shape.

Then I remembered that old people sometimes do things.

And just like that, I avoided looking like a retard on /sci/.
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>>8099261
>Oh shit, there's not a single character that has a middle position in the left column.

Excatly, and I'm in the middle of gridding out the first page to support my original transliteration, but I've run into a snag on line 4.

As you can see, it initially matches matches up with the structure of line 2, being indented, but the second and third characters are giving me trouble.
If we go with the orange "space", it assumes the existence of characters whose entire first 3 digits can be 0 (first column its adjacent middle to the right), and that not only that, but that they aren't kerned to fit the page, which is in opposition to the second character on the first line (unless it's a special character that only has 2 columns)

If we take the orange space to preserve spacing, we get
00010011 00011010

The purple spaces, however, turns the third character into a two column character, but also gives us the problem of two extra "space" columns between the first and second characters.

Taking the purple space to preserve the rule that every other character thus far has had a 1 in the first column (and presumably in the first middle), gives us the values
10011000 11010(000)

I'm going to tentatively propose that the last column (and the middle before it) are omitted if they're all 0's, and that there must ALWAYS be a 1 within the first 2(3?) digits.

However, this does not resolve the issue of those extra spaces, so it may be that the first column need not necessarily have a 1, and that the last column can be omitted.
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>>8099284
I was under the assumption that a character's binary value was assigned left to right top to bottom.

012
345
678

You don't run into any of the problems you suggested.
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>>8099291
Or, well I guess

0-1-2
-3-4-
5-6-7

assuming that your 8 digit assumption is correct.
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>>8099291
>>8099294
True, but apply that to the second character on the first row;
If we encode it your way, and assume that it's the same structure as all other characters, we get 10010010
But the second middle is touching the space, and rather than just omitting the entire right column, we're omitting the end of the first row, the end of the second row (second middle), and the end of the third row. I think it's simpler to assume it's written:
1 - 4 - 7
- 3 - 6 -
2 - 5 - 8

Than it is to assume it's written:
1 - 2 - 3
- 4 - 5 -
6 - 7 - 8

As in the shown case, we'd be omitting bits 7, 6, and 8, rather than bits 3, 5, and 8.
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>>8099302
I know it's a remote possibility, but still worth mentioning: this could have simply been an error by the maker.

I'd be interested to know if that type of spacing problem appears on any other pages.
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>>8099379
If no one else has by the time I get back, I'll plot out the other pages and see if there are any other anomalies.

As of now, however, I'm edging towards the "orange" option, where the first three bits can be 0's, along with the option for the last bits to be omitted if they're 0's, unless line2char1 is a special case.
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>>8099302
Oh, and also, it could also be that it's written
1 - 4 - 7
- 2 - 5 -
3 - 6 - 8

But the first option is far more regular, as opposed to this one.
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OP, I'm asking this in both threads, is your granddad Albanian?
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>>8099267
Something tells me this thing may not have vowels, like how Hebrew omits vowels. Also that name is fucking gay (insult pending).
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>>8100046
I have no idea about any of it.
Also, I didn't make it, and I'm pretty sure the (name pending) means you're free to suggest something else.
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And this is not just a case of "squint til you see english" exactly why?

Has literally nobody tried to correlate this with normal fucking letters?
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>>8100066
>tfw you exist
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>>8100071
God you're arrogant.
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>>8100066
>Why don't you try the first thing I thought of for me?
Are you fucking kidding me? How about you do it, transcribe your wonderful interpretation, and post it, or fuck off. Do you actually think that didn't occur to people?
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>>8100073
>>8100075
holy shit
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>>8100075
HEY I GOT AN IDEA
Maybe it's MORSE CODE
Maybe it's BINARY UNICODE
Maybe it's APPROXIMATIONS OF EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPHS

It's SO OBVIOUS, why don't you smarties add these to your list of all possibilities to check for me because I'm too stupid to contribute anything meaningful.
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>>8097644
>>8097694
>>8097739
Can I ask how the fuck you did this?
What program did you use?
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"am Alpha and Omega, [the] beginning and the end I will [give?] unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely."
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>>8100081
Difference being, I don't assume that because you're capable of counting rings and spitting svada, you somehow show any signs of intelligence.

This is horseshit. None of the pages are actually in the fucking book. It's a removable insert for a prop. The book is a meme, not something to be understood.

This is another fucking fingerbox, you idiot.
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>>8100071
That's a terrible noose; it would tighten as soon as she put pressure on it and rather than killing her instantly it would just tighten and asphyxiate her in a very painful manner. Dumb bitch can't even kill herself right ffs.
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>>8100096
>>Suggesting that if you squint it MIGHT be in English is useless, specifically when it's so easy to confirm for yourself that it doesn't work.
>The book is a meme, not something to be understood.
Thanks for changing the subject. I don't disagree with this. Anything else?
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>>8100009
no. German ancestry, born in America.
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>>8100096
>None of the pages are actually in the fucking book. It's a removable insert for a prop.
what?
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Supposing it's a direct substitution cipher, here's a comprehensive set of characters that can be input into decryption software.

ABCDE CFEG HIJK LDMNO FP BE QRF STFU DV S CSGFJ QRF WBAF XYFZ! @YQ EFUFZ #YP$F GFAQ S@DYQ LBVF MSE %FU PFST QR&A WSZ! XYSLO CA*$D #DNFJ _LS!=

If it's not direct substitution, then I don't think I can contribute anything further.

>>8100140
OK thank you.
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>>8099267
dude do you have autism
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>>8100564
Why do you ask
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Pretty sure you just found the Golden Plates, Anon.
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Everyone, this is your daily reminder to work hard on cracking this code so that my idle curiosity can be sated.

Chop, chop.
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>>8100096
The book and pages are real you autistic faggot
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>>8100857
> daily reminder that I think I can tell you how to spend your time

Nobody's forcing anybody to do anything you mongoloid. If you don't want to help then don't help, it's not that hard.
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>>8096596
The first thing to see is if it encodes information. You can check this by seeing if some characters appear more often than others.

Then you try to figure out what it is.
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How goes it bous
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>>8102890
/x/ already determined that
1 0 0
0 0 1
0 1 0
is 'E'. it appears roughly 15% of the time just as E does in typical English. It is also the third letter in the most common trigram in the book, most likely 'the'.
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>>8102981
Assuming THE and the fact that the only single letter words are "I" and "A", I have put this together. It doesn't seem very right, but it might help.
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>>8103129
Also, I would like to note that the first word on the second page probably spans two lines. I can't think of a two letter word beginning in "E"
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>>8103130
>I can't think of a two letter word beginning in "E"
ea
eb
ec
ed
ef
eg
eh
ei
ej
ek
el
em
en
eo
ep
eq
er
es
et
eu
ev
ey
ez

None of those are words to you, huh?
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It's says
EI
EIO
EIEIO
Which indicates it's Old MacDonald in code.
Old = Pagan
MacDonald =
Mac = Son
Don = Donn the Dark; Devil in Irish/Scottish Paganism
Ald = Of Olde
It's a book written about summoning the Dark Lord.
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So do we know for sure that it is English/German? It could be Latin imo
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>>8103152
Dude, what?
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>>8103425
Has anyone tried deciphering via direct substitution with languages that aren't English? I'd love to do it but I'm fucking spooked and in my bed at 4 am so I'll do it in a couple of hours

[spoiler]please send snacks I'm scared [/spoiler]
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>>8103484
>being scared of the dark
>not embracing the beauty of the night
You're missing out man.
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>>8103491
It's not the dark that scares me, it's the unknown. And this thread makes a lot of unknowns for now 6 am anon
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>>8103567
>It's not the dark that scares me, it's the unknown
Perhaps it's the scientist in me, but I really enjoy the unknown. I'm that walk-down-a-dark-alleyway-in-the-middle-of-the-night kind of guy. Luckily, I live in a nice place, so I can do that shit without getting mugged/raped/murdered
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>>8103570
An excellent way to live for sure. I just get spooked easily
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I suggest using balanced ternary as well, -1, 0, 1 might be the diagonally connected rings

this is a very cool thread man, please get back here if you deciphered it
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>>8103129
So my issue is in recording the different letters using our agreed upon idea of our letter grids, there are more than 30 letters, so either not english, we are wrong, or they are doing something stupid like using single characters for diagraphs like one letter for "ph".
That being said, what do you guys think?
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>>8103634
I say the visualisation is correct, but the interpretation is still wrong.

we would need more info on OPs grandpa if we wanna actually solve this riddle
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>>8103634
To be precise, there are 36 unique characters.
That's 26+10, so it very well could be alphanumeric, rather than just alphabetical.
It's most likely a direct substitution, there are characters that repeat, and character sequences that repeat (see >>8100242)
It could also be an Albanian substitution, but OP said his gramps had no albanian connection, so there's that.
Still worth looking into IMO if anyone knows albanian.
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>>8103129
I'd look at letter frequency too, the most common letters in English are A and E , I'd suggest that I-4 is A
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>>8103657
A isn't even close to the most common letter used in English.
I mean fuck, it's only showed it's punk face three times in these two sentences, and E's shown up 21 times.
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>>8103664
Yes it is. Your sentences just happen to be bad examples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_frequency#Relative_frequencies_of_letters_in_the_English_language
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It's funny how just after 100 replies there is a general consent, that it's the english language.

just because because you find a three letter word, doesn't mean it says "THE"

typical american morons
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>>8103672
Showed up 5 times in your post.
1 in mine.
>what is rstlne
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>>8103676
Considering how recently it must have been made (judging by the technique and the wear of the book) and the probable context in which the book was made English makes some sense. However thank you for the suggestion, however I have already checked out some of the German and Latin direct substitution ciphers, and nothing significant yet.
I also don't speak German or Latin so it becomes a challenge of language more than anything.
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>>8103688
Im native german, we have different articles for different genders

the cat = DIE KATZE (f)
the dog = DER HUND (m)

"DER" for male, "DIE" for female, "DAS" for neutral are possible articles in our language, so I'd keep an eye out for them as well...
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>>8103676
General consent that it's in English came from the fact that OP (not necessarily this one, but the first) is a lying fuck and made it himself. Nice try though.
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>>8103704
but you have too many declinations, writing a simple sentence would take the whole book.

I vote for latin.
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My grandad is a freemason, and I've never seen this stuff on the books. Anyway, the way they write their text is pretty complicated to decipher, since they compress almost everything.
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>>8103158
Kek
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Sabotaging this thread would be too easy now start looking after your pets. Meaning in the shelters because if you can't raise them don't breed them.
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>>8103657
> what is RSTLNE
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>>8103152
No, none of those are words to me. At least none are words that make sense. If we assume this is in english, then we should only look for english words that are used in actual conversation. Otherwise, we have absolutely no idea what we're looking for.
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>>8103129
Poster of ^^ here
>>8103634
That is an interesting thing to note
however,
>>8103648
Alphanumeric makes a bit more sense.

>>8103676
OP wrote in english, we can only assume his grandfather spoke english. If we want to assume any POSSIBLE language, we'll never be able to solve this.
(Typical non-american morons)

>>8103688
>>8103704
>>8103725
Latin is also a good possibility. The book is made of chainmail, which suggests OP's grandfather might have gone for an archaic language. In Latin, I'm pretty sure E is still the most common letter, so line two of page one could be "ET" meaning "AND".

My Latin is a bit rusty, but I'll see what I can do with that.
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>>8103801
>my source of letter frequency is the conventions of a gameshow.
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>>8103129
It's gonna say "THE GAME"
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>>8100090
uhh, paint
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bump for great justice
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To recap:
35 different symbols.

Most likely numbers and the most common parts of the english alphabet, if we try to keep things very simple and assume occam might not be a complete retard.

We can almost exclude Q and Z, and I wanna say X, but for the shape of some of the letters.

I think numbers are similar, for instance by always having a single dot in the lower corner as a counter.

It's also possible that there is punctuation, although it looks like spacing has been made to remove that need.
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>>8105084

According to this transcription into hexadecimal based on this post >>8100242 that looks something like this, divided into pages.

ABCDE CFEG HIJK
LDMNO FP BE QRF STFU DV S CSGFJ
QRF WBAF XYFZ1 2YQ EFUFZ 3YP4F
GFAQ S2DYQ LBVF MSE 5FU PFST
QR6A WSZ1 XYSLO CA74D 3DNFJ 8LS19

On page 2 there is a single "S", I will assume this is an "i" because that's the only letter that usually stands alone, and because it's a common vowel.

Assuming that "QRF" on page 3 is actually "the", the translitteration looks like this at the current stage, where capitals and numbers are unchanged, and lowercase are substituted:

ABCDE CeEG HIJK

LDMNO eP BE the iTeU DV i CiGeJ
the WBAe XYeZ1 2Yt EeUeZ 3YP4e
GeAt i2DYt LBVe MiE 5eU PeiT
th6A WiZ1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNeJ 8Li19
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I just translated it, but the translation told me that I'm not supposed to tell you what it said except for just to tell you that I can't tell you. Good luck to you all.
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>>8105095
Here's my theories so far, please contriboot. Science over memez!

ABCDE CFEG HIJK
LDMNO FP BE QRF STFU DV S CSGFJ
QRF WBAF XYFZ1 2YQ EFUFZ 3YP4F
GFAQ S2DYQ LBVF MSE 5FU PFST
QR6A WSZ1 XYSLO CA74D 3DNFJ 8LS19


ABCDE CFEG HIJK
LDMNO FP BE QRF iTFU DV i CiGFJ
QRF WBAF XYFZ1 2YQ EFUFZ 3YP4F
GFAQ i2DYQ LBVF MiE 5FU PFiT
QR6A WiZ1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNFJ 8Li19

S-i

ABCDE CeEG HIJK
LDMNO eP BE QRe iTeU DV i CiGeJ
QRe WBAe XYeZ1 2YQ EeUeZ 3YP4e
GeAQ i2DYQ LBVe MiE 5eU PeiT
QR6A WiZ1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNeJ 8Li19

S-i
F-e

ABCDE CeEG HIJK
LDMNO eP BE QRe iteU DV i CiGeJ
QRe WBAe XYeZ1 2YQ EeUeZ 3YP4e
GeAQ i2DYQ LBVe MiE 5eU Peit
QR6A WiZ1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNeJ 8Li19

S-i
F-e
T-t

ABCDE CeEG HIJK
LDMNO eP BE QRe item DV i CiGeJ
QRe WBAe XYeZ1 2YQ EemeZ 3YP4e
GeAQ i2DYQ LBVe MiE 5em Peit
QR6A WiZ1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNeJ 8Li19

S-i
T-t
F-e
U-m

STFU - ITEM

ABCDs CesG HIJK
LDMNO eP Bs QRe item DV i CiGeJ
QRe WBAe XYeZ1 2YQ semeZ 3YP4e
GeAQ i2DYQ LBVe Mis 5em Peit
QR6A WiZ1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNeJ 8Li19

S-i
F-e
T-t
U-m
E-s

ABCDs CesG HIJK
LDMNO eP Bs QRe item DV i CiGeJ
QRe WBAe XYen1 2YQ semen 3YP4e
GeAQ i2DYQ LBVe Mis 5em Peit
QR6A Win1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNeJ 8Li19

S-i
F-e
T-t
U-m
E-s
Z-n
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Maybe it's RESET not SEMEN

dashes added where it looks visually like words might be linked.

ABCDr CerG HIJK
LDMNO-eP Br-QRe STes DV S CSGeJ_
QRe WBAe XYet1-2YQ reset 3YP4e
GeAQ S2DYQ-LBVe MSr 5es PeST
QR6A WSt1 XYSLO-CA74D 3DNeJ 8LS19

E-r
F-e
U-s
Z-t
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>>8105127
>ABCDs CesG HIJK
>LDMNO eP Bs QRe item DV i CiGeJ
>QRe WBAe XYen1 2YQ semen 3YP4e
>GeAQ i2DYQ LBVe Mis 5em Peit
>QR6A Win1 XYiLO CA74D 3DNeJ 8Li19
Peit is a dead end according to a dictionary of 55k words.
http://www.visca.com/regexdict/

>>8105135
>ABCDr CerG HIJK
>LDMNO-eP Br-QRe STes DV S CSGeJ_
>QRe WBAe XYet1-2YQ reset 3YP4e
>GeAQ S2DYQ-LBVe MSr 5es PeST
>QR6A WSt1 XYSLO-CA74D 3DNeJ 8LS19
5es -> yes, but that contributes nothing.


Following the logic that 35 symbols map to English requires this short paragraph to contain nine digits. Is that a reasonable expectation? Not at all.
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>>8105179
http://www.crosswordsolver.org/solve

I'm trying different iterations now. It's much easier with the letter replace function in notepad than doing it visually.
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>>8105179
I tried to map CSGFJQRF to "filename" but that didn't work either.

I tried maping "ABCDE" to "ultra" but that's still a dead end afaics.
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>>8099267
Can we at least all agree that the final name of the language should be "Okeradatabe (name pending)"?
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Idk, first time posting on either sci or x, but: if the guy was german why do you try english words? Germans were notoriously bad at english just ten years ago. Seeing as it was someones popop and not a youngling i dont know why you're even considering it
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>>8105228
The flavor text doesn't really matter, man. It's obviously either a cryptoquip or some visual sub, its most likely not an actual code.

Besides, none of the quipsolvers Ive tried have worked.
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>>8105196
No. Mailian.
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>>8105238
People trying automated solvers should note that most only work with 26 symbols, and this "cipher" has 35. It's silly to feed a problem into a solver of an entirely different problem and expect anything but no result. Further, spacing is not fully known, only assumed.

For some reason, despite the 35 symbols, I decided to do better than >>8105127 by improving his method.

>>8105135
>dashes added where it looks visually like words might be linked.
I added more.

ABCDE CFEG HIJK
LDMNO-FP BE-QRF STFU DV S CSGFJ-
QRF WBAF XYFZ1-2YQ EFUFZ-3YP4F-
GFAQ S2DYQ-LBVF MSE 5FU PFST
QR6A WSZ1 XYSLO-CA74D-3DNFJ-8LS19

S -> a
QRF -> the
th6A -> this (other options: {this, thus, thud, thug, thru, thou, thin})

sBCDE CeEG HIJK
LDMNO-eP BE-the aTeU DV a CaGeJ-
the WBse XYeZ1-2Yt EeUeZ-3YP4e-
Gest a2DYt-LBVe MaE 5eU PeaT
this WaZ1 XYaLO-Cs74D-3DNeJ-8La19

BE -> {of, on, by} lead to dead ends.


Now that I've amused myself, waiting for a better idea, because I've already explained why this is stupid.
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>>8105196
>>8105360
Use the pronunciation guide to figure out what it says
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>>8103152
>eh

IT'S WRITTEN IN CANADIAN
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>>8105443
it says nothing because the creator of the original language didn't create whatever the fuck you've made here.
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>>8105468
but think of it like a puzzle, and use this as your key >>8099267

It was an effort of love anon, you're no fun :\
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>>8096596
the most metal as fuck book known
literally
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>inb4 it doesn't say anything and is just something someone long ago made for shits and giggles
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>>8105374
>improving his method.
I'm really grateful, thanks!

I also think this is stupid, but the hex code made ten times more sense than using FUCKING SYMBOLS, so I felt I had to "correct the slanted picture frame" in this burned down house of wasted time.

I hate this book.
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The whole "new language" thing makes about as much sense as believing that an old as balls handmade chain mail would be made out of stainless. Which it has to have been, since we've not heard anything to the effect of "I cleaned it up".

The flavor text is, I believe, a red herring to make you pursue the dead ends that are german and albanian and whatnot. The book looks brand new, and the pictures are taken professionally, so there's no reason to assume it's not just some dank meme wizard writing something to the effect of "I spent over 9000 hours crafting this, so please dont tell everyone this is what the book reads"
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>>8106028
a-are you calling me a shill?
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>>8106087
> Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
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>>8106092
I can show you the process I used to get the "flavor text" as you call it.
I started by taking every word, and writing it out as say "12345" if it were a 5 character word. 1234 if it had 4 characters, etc.
Then, I started at the beginning of the book at the first character and called it "A," and replaced the first "1"2345 with "A"2345
Then, I went through the rest of the book, and put an A in the positions where that character appeared again.
I repeated this process until I ran out of characters in the book.
It's possible I made a mistake, but I spent awhile double checking.
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>>8106103
No, sweetie, the flavor text is this:
>grandfather bla bla germany bla bla
>found in attic bla bla albanian bla bla
>was in the war bla bla

You made a translitteration, and despite it being better if you did it with numbers instead of symbols, you did a good job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q
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>put random gold chunks among black chunks
>lay back and watch the internet being trolled for another 1000 years
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>>8106107
Oh.
Well, I just got the Albanian thing 'cause more alphabetical characters, I was curious if maybe that's why we were having so much difficulty.
As for the rest, I can't make a claim towards its validity.
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>>8106028
>the pictures are taken professionally,
OP said he just used a piece of posterboard as a backdrop. You'd be surprised how good a picture turns out when you don't use a shitty phone camera too.
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>>8106112
>random gold chunks among black chunks
The text has definite frequency patterns that make it almost certainly say something in English. The Frequency of the
1 0 0
0 0 1
0 1 0
character and the letter 'e' in English are both ~15%. The most common English trigram 'the' ends with 'e', and the most common trigram in the text ends with the
1 0 0
0 0 1
0 1 0
character too.

If the arrangement is really random then a lot of effort was taken to ensure it resembled English to the point where the author may as well have just written actual content.
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>>8106309
>m-muh frequency

If you'd figured out 'the', you'd have figured out more of it by now. Except there's nothing to figure out, you've projected a language pattern onto novelty symbols.
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>>8106391
So you think the author peppered in symbols with a similar frequency to English just to fuck with you?
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>>8103158
this
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>>8106399
youre trying random shit. something is going to fit, it doesnt mean its significant

you dont fit patterns to data at random
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Xenolinguistic glyphs?
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>>8099205
everyone has accepted the possibility that it could have been a troll thread originally and the story about OP finding in his dead grampas attic false,...
they are merely interested in the endeavor in cracking the encryption. even if its just some mundane nothing message
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>>8103152
omg if this isn't bait it's my favorite post ever on this board
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>>8107071
It's obviously bait. Nobody here is THAT stupid.
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>>8107071
>>8108098

LOOK AT IT

OH MY GOD

WOULD YOU JUST LOOK AT IT
>>
If it was German, shouldn't the words be somewhat longer?
>>
Bump for the pursuit of unknown knowledge.
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>>8096596
The cover is an unusual chain pattern. I can't tell for sure what metals are used, probably chrome or stainless for the cover (too shiny for aluminum), with iron and brass for the pages.

Middle pages are clearly butted mail, so this was someone's personal autism project.

I think you probably found the perfect place to post this, /sci/ has a lot of collective autism. The only way to decode autism is with more autism.
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>>8097467
000000011 is 3 lol.
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>>8099267
>google "okeradatabe"
>find only an /sci/ and /x/ thread

is this a troll?
>>
Hint:
http://www.mailleartisans.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=19307
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>>8112228
Damn you. The answer is here. Don't read if you still want to figure it out yourself.
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>>8112228
>>8112233
And now that I know the answer, I can't believe none of you have worked it out yet. I mean, I know /sci/ is stupid, but really?
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>>8112228
Ah, sweet relief from the mystery. Now to do better things.
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>>8103152

I spot in that list:

"Behold"
"Oath"
"Oak"
"Eh"
"No"
"No"
"it/that"
"Electricity/Alderwood"
"One"
"Is"
"One"
"European Union"
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>>8096596
It could be a very intricate Loss.
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>>8112239
found the 20 yo fat twat
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>>8112562
Um... That's Robin Williams...
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>>8112194
Maybe, but the term was coined in the /x/ threads.
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>>8097565
Freemasons actually exist. Go find a masonic lodge and ask a member to help you join.

They list their locations on the internet.
>>
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>>8099247
You got it wrong. Actually it is like this.
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wow what a disappointment
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