society design

>>8011986
there are about 100 different industrial processes that you would have to reinvent, and not an engineer or scientist alive that knows the nuances of their implementation.

i know these connecticut yankee questions are fun, but the reality is that one guy could not jumpstart an industrial revolution.

>>8011986
replace brainlets with automation, everything else will work out for the best naturally.

>>8011986
I'd say talk with the structural engineers.

I think getting buildings update with current construction materials would be a good idea.

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>>8011986
>Sustainability is pretty optional.

that's mean bankruptcy and pic related

>>8011986
>If you had a chance to recreate society, using all of your scientific futurological knowledge, what would you change?
i'm not a statist

>>8012025
back to >>>/pol/

>>8012025
>thestoryofdetroit.tif

>>8012041
back to your ghetto
>>>/trash/

In the upcoming multicultural society, with 2 billions Muslims and other 2 billions Africans ramming the whole planet, cities will be unsustainable; the only solution will be gated communities big enough to sustain themselves with little interaction with the dangerous outside:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gated_community

You'll need land to grow your own food, so something like this will be a good starting point, just improve the security:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svanholm

>>8011986
I feel you need to play some infrastructure god games. There's some pretty good ones you can sperge out as much autism as you like in designing your worlds.

Tropico 5
Imagine Earth
Cities: Skylines
SimCity (2013)

>what would you change?

I'd segregate agriculture as much as possible, indoctrinate the reduction of the need for commercial consumables, segregation of the population, and prevent capitalism. Basically no cities/towns over 5k people. With today's population that'd make for 1,483,257 "cities" with a population of 5,000 each. (There is 24,642,757 square miles or 15.77 billion acres of habitable land on Earth) That'd be about 16.61 square miles per 5k "city". That is a density of about 300 people per square mile (compare to NYC population density of 28,052.5/sq mi or Isle of Man 362.4/sq mi). Entertainment would focus on advancing civilization, not superfluous things like sports, movies, video games, etc.

The only thing that will be desegregated will be technology and technology advancement. Those things will have the best minds in the world working together; never more separate than the next city over within a "zone'.

I'd also take great pains to remove religion entirely and setup a people-based moral and ethical system

>...types of infrastructure...?

Each city would produce its own energy, food, water (where able), and manage its own healthcare and waste management (which would be integrated into both energy and food productions). Interaction between cities would be more about social interaction and technology sharing.

Most infrastructure between cities would be for water to areas where enough water can't be acquired, transportation (subway where able), and material trade for manufacturing. Due to locales, some cities will be responsible for things like ore, ore processing, and other location-specific resources; even aerospace and tech development centers. All utility infrastructures would be underground.

Bump for more discussion and less /pol/ shit.

>>8012517
>less /pol/ shit

Good luck with that.
How can you plan an utopian future society if you don't eliminate killers, thieves, thugs, dumb people and religious fanatics?
Eugenics first, efficiency later, with sustainability as the ultimate goal.

>>8012108
Why do that when all you need is a well funded navy?

>>8012009
what will happen to the brainlets.

>>8013104

compost

>>8011986
>If you had a chance to recreate society, using all of your scientific futurological knowledge, what would you change?

Not like that fucking city jesus who designed that read NKLewis you plebs

Start here:
http://www.newworldeconomics.com/archives/2006/032606.htm

Continue here:
http://www.newworldeconomics.com/archives/tradcityarchive.html

Also:

>>8012108
>You'll need land to grow your own food, so something like this will be a good starting point, just improve the security:

You can not into economics, so you need to stop talking economics.

stem masterrace, the rest are subservients.

>>8012155
this is just total trash

>>8012108
All you need is to build a reserve for the bix nood like in Brave New World. You gasbomb them every once in a while so they remember not to revolt anymore and you're all set. Back to the orgy porgy!

>>8012155
>I'd segregate agriculture as much as possible, indoctrinate the reduction of the need for commercial consumables, segregation of the population, and prevent capitalism. Basically no cities/towns over 5k people.

>Each city would produce its own energy, food, water (where able), and manage its own healthcare and waste management (which would be integrated into both energy and food productions). Interaction between cities would be more about social interaction and technology sharing.

>I'd also take great pains to remove religion entirely and setup a people-based moral and ethical system

>In the name of sustainability, I would force people to live super unsustainable lives. I have done zero research on the energy use differential between rural and urban living. In the name of morals, I would force people to stop living the lives they want and instead live the life I want for them.

Get fucked son.

>>8013424
sounds lovely

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>>8013412
>>8013456
Ah, yes, the 1st to be castrated and put into my slavery program. *tips bander*

>>8013400
>>>/sci/

oh wait

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>>8011986
Oh yes! Exactly that kind of thread I was searching for!
I just wanted to suggest more practical approach.
Here is the deal - we have two cities that badly needs renovation. (Others may, or may not, but this two - for sure!)
Yes, its Detroit and New Orleans.
So I propose to sell those both as Free Cities (therefore FCD and FCNO) to conglomerate of transnational corporations (each one will get a section of a city-state, according to their investments in the project). Both city-states should be governed by the council of top managers of above mentioned companies and acquire special status as confederate city-states, sharing national defense with the US, but keeping political and tax independence.
Therefore Federal law and Constitution shall not be upheld and city-state owning companies would install their own law and law enforcement system. This certainly would encourage flow of capital back into now failed cities, quickly restore popularity and declining white population in both cities (to advance process further wealth census and citizenship levels according to personal HDI and rights to bear arms for full citizens should be proclaimed and protected as a basis of new Free society). Since both Free cities would be fully controlled by corporations and will not be subjected to federal tax system, quick development of modern high tech industry and scientific research centers (working on such controversial matters as fully independent self-learning AI human cloning and whatnot) practically guaranteed and would ensure leading positions of now dying cities. On the other hand vast amount of cheap laborers (who will have no rights, including no rights to complain) without labor unions in conjunction with forced labor (as a legal punishment for violent crimes) and corporal punishments would make it possible to compete with cheap labor in countries of Asia, making America competitive again. Prostitution and according forced labor for convicted women should be legal..

>>8011986
>Energy
Nuclear and hydro

>Food production
Free market

>Water purification
Free market

>Living quarters
Free market

>IT
Free market

>Transportation
Free market

>Healthcare
Free market

>>8011986
desu

>>8011986
>that bridge covered in grass in the OP
Cute if they think that shit will stay green after the first week of use. The grass will be completely destroyed and leave a dirt bridge.

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>>8015916
At the first stage of new Detroit Renovation Project (DRP) and NORP (in case of New Orleans) possibly not a whole cities, but most degenerate parts of them might be acquired by corporations, which would make it easier, faster and more obviously successful for the rest of the society. In fact, being protected by newly dug channels, filled with water from the lakes and surrounded by tall shining wall new Free cities would be well protected and safe, while enjoying cheap labor with no necessity to upkeep housing for laborers (as they will be coming for daily work and expelled outside at night). Well guarded gates, bridges and security drones with remotely controlled turrets would provide impenetrable shield 24\7. Eventually cities would consist of a network of Arcologies - modern mega structures (roughly in size of a neighborhood), which would spawn up and down for many levels and interconnected in a net like system, providing all weather pedestrian, bicycle, bus, rail and automobile transition in between areas of the cities, as well as high speed train connection with other cities and local airports.
Original socialist concept of Arcology by Soleri obviously denying automobile transportation as well as include several other fatal mistakes (like mixing industrial and residential areas), which is degenerate concept, leading to diminishing commercial and declining industrial power, and unhappy population, therefore FCD and FCNO must not be understood as a copy and direct application of his anti capitalist concept. Wealth and consumerism must be supported and encouraged as a natural stimulus for open market and positive impact on economy. No limitations to exploitation of available resources should be applied (both natural and manpower including).

>>8015945
Leftists - idealists. They will not be around in our new Free Cities. Power to corporations!

As a gamer
>tips fedora
I really hate that we only have one life. In a vidya you always fuck some- or everything up on your first run, you learn from it, get better and will know what to do next game or life.

In real life you have one try and since you've never tried it before most people are fucked.
Only the lucky few born in a nice country, with a good and rich family will do well.
>ow the edge

>>8015948
Divided on zones according to residents wealth, city-states would be accessible for citizens depending on their status, as an example - highest A1 would guarantee access to any areas, including secret research and industrial sites and reserved for top management and other higher echelons, and all political rights, while lowest C3 would provide only basic residential rights (with very limited access to areas of a city) and no vote rights. In any event privacy and property rights will be protected with full power of a city state as a basis of its existence. Any citizen will be able to advance in ranks and acquire higher status, as he is climbing up corporate ladder or simply improving his HDI (net income, education etc).
Any laborer from outside also should have a chance to become resident, as long as he\she following the law and improve. Basic citizenship can be granted after certain evaluation period, or as a reward. At the same time its possible to deny, suspend (including indefinitely) or revise citizenship to criminals, who otherwise wasn't punished (in case of non violent crime).

>>8015969
>Divided on zones according to residents wealth, city-states would be accessible for citizens depending on their status, as an example - highest A1 would guarantee access to any areas, including secret research and industrial sites and reserved for top management and other higher echelons, and all political rights, while lowest C3 would provide only basic residential rights (with very limited access to areas of a city) and no vote rights

You dumb motherfucker.

You're not trying to solve any problems, you're just trying to signal "I'm not a leftist" as hard as possible.

Ain't no FUCKING chance I'm going to let other rich people into my secret reseach lab. "But he's rich he deserves it" get his ass OFF my property.

Ain't no FUCKING chance I'm going to place my Industrial Site where the working class isn't allowed to go to work, who the fuck am I supposed to hire all rich children with Gender Studies degrees? Get fucked son. Get fucked.

Yo here's a plan that'll work: Maybe let a FREE MARKET in PROPERTY RIGHTS sort this out instead of having your dumb ass try to coordinate from the top without even a CivEng degree.

>>8011986
Language

>>8015988
You don't get it, are you?
There is a mentioned that property rights and privacy protected in any case. So in YOUR lab no one will enter, unless there is search warrant based on serious evidence of your criminal activity. Same about your hired laborers - they are obviously will have access to your industrial site (as it was mentioned - they have limited access to areas, so they will be able to work, but wont be able to lets say, bother you in your leisure time in your high class recreational area)

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>Go to founding of America
>make slaves illegal and stop importing them
>leave

>mfw saved the country centuries later

>>8016003
Now how about making peace with Indians and somehow avoid long bloody war?

>>8015931
>FREE MARKET WILL FIX IT
>I PROMISE
>JUST YOU WAIT

My futuristic society would either be in antartica or titan. I feel that titan has more promising long term survival due to its natural resources.

>energy
Wind Power / Hydrocarbons

>Food Production
Computer Automated Vertical Aeroponic Farm. Protein Synthesis.

>Water Purification
Not a problem in antartica, on titan it must be mined 60km beneath surface ice or have methane extracted. Possibly via horticultural processes.

>Living Quarters
Just bunks in antartica, hyperloop for titan. Upon arrival settlers would recover from gravity sickness in titans weaker gravity until aa hyperloop can sustain higher gravity... explorers would sleep in a hyperloop pod that induces artificial gravity.

>IT
mostly just embedded process automation and satellites

>sewage
recyling protein and the 60% water that is stored in stools. Rest goes to fertilizer and cold extraction.

>Transportation
Electric Vehicles

>Healthcare
Crispr and natural remedies. Painkillers ofc. Meditation and exercise.

>>8016002
Now about ecology, since originally Arcology all about it. The thing is wealthy people deserve best environment, so obviously Free Cities will support eco movement by providing eco friendly environment inside, with wide green zones between Arcologies, small parks inside them and by upholding strict ecology rules. Any industrial site and vehicles must be subjected to them, ensuring protection of surrounding eco system, however, unlike original Arcology by Soleri, there will be no self imposed limitation of consumption of natural resources, instead cities must be oriented on fulfilling any wishes of citizens, and would simply work on projects specifically designed to replenish natural resources and preserve and improve ecosystem in all area around cities as well as participate in similar activity across the country as long as it not drain finances of the city.
Special laws to encourage research, development and use of new eco friendly technology should be implemented (notably by reducing tax in return, or\and taxing significantly more damaging technology). Free cities must become pioneers in eco technology and one of main point of cooperation of corporations must be conquering and dominating new eco market. Green agro technology around city area must be supported and if possible - subsidized by city budget.

>>8016002
>There is a mentioned that property rights and privacy protected in any case. So in YOUR lab no one will enter, unless there is search warrant based on serious evidence of your criminal activity. Same about your hired laborers - they are obviously will have access to your industrial site (as it was mentioned - they have limited access to areas, so they will be able to work, but wont be able to lets say, bother you in your leisure time in your high class recreational area)

>I'll say I'm going to move all the people who live in the city
>OUT of the city
>So they're dependent on cars/rails

>Because I know how to make sense
>I'll say this right after saying things like:

>>>"C3 would provide only basic residential rights"
>and
>>>providing all weather pedestrian, bicycle, ... transition in between areas of the cities

Do you even know what a city is?

This is not a trick question? Do you know why people build cities, what their purposes are?

(Hint: The purpose is _not_ "Giant Area Empty of People," you're thinking of the Great Plains)

>>8016027
also in regards to healthcare and food production Id give an advantage to cyborgs with artificial limbs and organs. Food production can be part of the the energy production, with less food required to sustain the remaining organic body.

Theres also 3d printed tissue options for healthcare.

>>8016010
There's no way to really do that.
The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

>>8016037
It seems like you are clearly ignoring what I'm writing.
1. There will be several levels of citizenship (unlike in USA where you ether citizen or not). Each one - a step in a ladder. Which clearly provide more benefits. As in this case - opens more areas and more rights for a citizen.
To make it simple - old good multi class society where third class passengers on board of ocean liner were on the same ship, but had no access to 1st class dining room.

2. Each Arcology - pretty big structure (and part of even bigger city). Its absolutely normal and natural to limit access for lower categories to some high tier areas. That doesn't mean that there is nothing for anyone who are not A1. Its just meant that as ladder goes up - you will get more. Unlike idealistic lefties I know what i'm talking about - people are not equal, and must prove their worthiness especially since we all know that resources are not unlimited and if shared with anyone, everybody loose. This is ain't communist utopia and never meant to be. Its real project and I'm not planning to wait until ideal citizen born. Social Darwinism.

3. The only category of laborers who will be left outside of the city and left to commute to the job and back again each day - non citizens from outside of Free city. They still have way to prove their worth and become resident and later - a citizen. And even later - even get rich and maybe powerful.

4. Free City designed not to make people lazy, soft and welfare sucking. But directly opposite, to draw best of the best. Assembly and cultivate creative, mobile and active. Its society of entrepreneurs, inventors, creators, you may not seat on your ass and demand everything for granted like in USA today.

>>8016063

It is a society of sheep, weak and beholden to the teat of your central planning.

I'm not going to give you an itemized list of all that you're doing wrong, and will instead simply tell you this: The city planners who made Detroit in the first place would be right there with you, they can recognize everything you're proposing. Good job re-creating failure by failing to analyze the problems before solving them.

>>8016069
Commy, please go.

>>8016063
>since we all know that resources are not unlimited and if shared with anyone, everybody loose
That's the most retarded thing I have ever heard. The whole reason humans gather together is because everyone wins if they work together. Your communism was actually a lot about citizens being divided into social classes, more so than in west.
>not seat on your ass and demand everything for granted like in USA today.
USA citizens are deluded.

>>8016069
>beholden to the teat of your central planning
>>8016070
>Commy, please go.

>mfw

>>8016063
>>8016029
>>8015969
>>8015948
>>8015916
ITT: Shadowrun LARP

>>8016072
>everyone wins if they work
>if they work
Exactly!

Now some more about subject:
Health care and education (including high school) of course not free and paid ether directly by citizens, or provided by corporations (as a reward to valuable employee or as a venture of a sort in future employee). Standards of education must be kept much higher than in public schools across USA, and competition ensured. Higher education must be on top with best world universities (Free cities can cooperate with them, creating their own higher education courses, city must make such projects a priority, ensuring future corporate superiority in all necessary fields, of course only best students should be allowed to enter the program)
Health care system must be multilevel corresponding to multi class society and available for non citizens as far as they can pay for it, ensuring however, priority for citizens.
Ambulance and emergency, including surgery must be available for everyone and covered by insurance. In case there is no such, it must be included in citizens or non citizens debt. Fail to pay may not be tolerated and upon certain time punitive actions may be applied, such as eviction form the Free city.
Non citizens can apply for any educational program, as long as there is vacant place and they can pay for it.

>>8016078
>ITT: Shadowrun LARP

Shadowrun cities would be better than what this statist thug is suggesting. They'd be run for profit - and would stop hurting people when hurt is unprofitable - instead of this mess of an idea that hurts people because it gets him hard.

Racial homogeneity
Eugenics
Nuclear energy
lots of public transport, make it free to use

Massive reform to the school system
Remove leftist indoctrination from the schools.
Put in my own indoctrination.

Change the format of education for adults.
Too many people go to university.
People are getting the wrong degrees.
People are spending too long in education.
No more going to a building several times a week, commuting hours per day.
No more group assignments.
No more 8:30am classes.
No more wasting time moving from class to class.
No more people standing at the front of an auditorium giving the same mediocre lecture every year for several decades, getting paid big bucks to do it. Compile a list of the best educational materials for each subject. If great educational materials don't exist, then create them.
No more take-home assignments, or in-class tests with TAs. That's a bad way to test.
All you need to do for each subject is pass a test. The test should be VERY difficult. Maybe pay like 100 dollars to sit a test. The test can be a practical or a paper test. Depends on the subject. You can choose to sit a test whenever. Tests run once every 3 months.
You want tutoring? Fine. Go do that. But I shouldn't have to pay 1.5 grand for a math subject.

Changing the education format means
- people don't waste lots of money on education
- people complete their education sooner
- people waste less resources commuting
- people waste less time writing up reports for assignments
- more frequent tests and lower price means that people are less stressed about university
- higher standards mean that degrees are a better indicator of ability
- changing the grading to strict exam conditions means that the grading is a better indicator of ability

maybe commieblocks, idk
I'm undecided
commieblocks means less travel time, better infrastructure
but there's also psychological problems associated with high density

>>8016188
Schools for children should teach more relevant things. Most people cannot even function in the world.
- automobile maintenance
- basic finance stuff (eg loans, banks, superannuation, credit cards, debit cards, interest, etc)
- IT stuff (eg backup+format+reinstall, creating a linux live usb, recovering lost files, etc)
- DIY stuff
more sport programs. People should do sport for their entire life.

Less reading fiction novels how white people are evil.

There should be no government-recognised art degrees.

>>8012061
You seem perturbed.

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>>8012025
Fucking chubby cunt

>>8012912
Have to agree eugenics ids absolutely necessary and the correlary is religion must be destroyed lest their apocalyptic cult obsessions destroy the utopia before it even starts.

>>8011986
I would out law people's ability to rent things out to other people. no renting apartments, you pay to buy.

>>8012050
>people actually FACTUALLY believe that Detroit's decline is because of SAVAGE NIGGERS and not basic economics

If a city is wholly dependent on an industry, and that industry packs up and leaves, then only the poorest of the poor will remain in the city. Anyone that can leave for better opportunities will have done so. The fact that the majority of the poor are black is a coincidence.

/pol/ doesn't like to talk about the thousands of 90%+ white Rust Belt towns that are quite literally third-world, because it's inconvenient to their narrative. Heroin and/or meth addiction, rampant crime, houses they can't even GIVE away, etc. But they're white, so it's obviously a statistical anomaly.

Poor black city = niggers are inferior
Poor white city = not a reflection of race at all

Got it

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>>8016265
>The fact that the majority of the poor are black is a coincidence.

>>8016245
>As Earth warms

lol, stopped reading there
fortunately enough:
- people don't believe these bullshits, because they can read the scientific papers themselves
- a warmer Earth would be better anyway (search: Roman climatic optimum)
- having an ice age, even a little one, it's MUCH worse
- more CO2 will make plant and crop more abundant, with less risk of famines

>>8016306
>He doesn't know that climate change like the kind we are going through is what caused the majority of previous ice ages

>>8016114
>how to make everyone work together
>make them compete at everything and take rights away from losers
Surely will work.

>>8016265
Well said. I always point out that in the UK the poorest towns are the white ones because no more industry up north. but /sci/ always ignores that.

>>8011986
My society would be designed like Europe but minus the allowance for Muslims.

Depending how far I could go back I'd kill Mohammudshit while he was in the womb and just let nature take its course.

>>8016336
Because white doesn not fit under welfare program thats perfectly available for any Ahmed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olmQXDpqmmg

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>>8016265
just LMAO

Poor white places = worse than rich white places but still pretty damn safe

In the USA:

Blacks commit homicide at 7 times the white rate, robbery at 8 times the white rate (Color of Crime)

When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife. (Color of Crime)

Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely (Color of Crime)

See pic to see how much more important race is in determining crime than wealth (Color of Crime)

Whites who didn't even attempt college are about as smart on the SATs as blacks with a postgrad degree, see National Adult Literacy Survey 2002

Whites who grew up in very poor households (combined parental income of 10k or less) do only 2 points lower on the SATs than blacks from very rich households (combined parental income of 200k or less)

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>>8016436
>as smart on the SATs as blacks with a postgrad degree

Are you seriously suggesting a post graduate degree is no better than SATs? The American education system must be shittier than I thought

Also,
>/pol/

>>8016450
No, that sentence was very explicit.

Whites who didn't even attempt college are about as smart on the SATs as blacks with a postgrad degree, see National Adult Literacy Survey 2002

ie blacks with a postgrad degree are unintelligent.

>le go back to /pol/
if you post dumb shit I am going to call you out on it.

>>8016450
>>8016455
The sentence was supposed to read
"Whites who didn't even attempt college are about as smart as blacks with a postgrad degree, see National Adult Literacy Survey 2002"

I didn't mean to write "on the SATs" there
National Adult Literacy Survey is not about literacy, it is a general intelligence test.

>>8016455
tbf, being educated =/= being intelligent. being a postgrad shouldn't matter when comparing SAT scores. those numbers are taken out of context.

>>8016464
I made a mistake


>Whites who didn't even attempt college are about as smart on the SATs as blacks with a postgrad degree, see National Adult Literacy Survey 2002
was supposed to be:
>Whites who didn't even attempt college are about as smart as blacks with a postgrad degree, see National Adult Literacy Survey 2002

nothing to do with SATs, the test was the National Adult Literacy Survey 2002

the point here was that even the most educated of blacks are unintelligent compared to uneducated whites.

>>8016473
>the point here was that even the most educated of blacks are unintelligent compared to uneducated whites.

but whats the deviation between uneducated whites and educated whites? and the deviation between educated and uneducated blacks. the delta between the two would be more telling than comparing uneducated whites to educated blacks.

those tests are designed so as to not give educated people that much of an advantage. i'd bet that the test scores don't change much as you go from no education --> postgrad.

>>8016188
>Racial homogeneity
Chinks and Jews are smarter and do better in college (also better crime rates) than white people.

>>8016188
>No more take-home assignments

nigga, you dumb. big projects are a critical tool for learning. in the real world you aren't working in some proctored environment solving cute little prepackaged puzzles with neat answers.

if you just crutch on exams you produce shitty engineers and doctors. you need to have people actually DO stuff in school.

>>8011986
i am poorly qualified to design a whole society

>>8016509
Judging by the thread you are the actually the best qualified person

>>8011986
Nothing. I'd issue a series of upgrades that would allow people to follow the chain of influences. I will refuse any and all top-down control mechanisms because the one thing that needs to die more than anything else is hidden economics. If people don't know what happened behind the scenes, you can't expect them to run the utopia *WE* would design.

>>8016455
>>8016459
You seem to be suggesting that the postgrad degrees owned by blacks are worth less than a SAT level qualification

This implies all American postgraduate qualifications are shit

Are you sure you want to stress this point?

>>8011986
>Energy production
>Food production
>Water purification
>Sewage/Waste management
>Living quarters
>Healthcare
Don't you mean "GENERALIZED RESOURCE UTILIZATION AND DISTRIBUTION"?

>Information technology
>Transportation
"Research and advertisement."

You can't even group your fields of economy by their algorithmic footprint and you want me to design a whole goddamn civilization for you? It's like, what? Did you really expect the transportation department to magically solve all problems in the field of aeronautics or something?

>>8016561
>when hating on blacks cite sources saying they dumb
>when hating on Jews or Chinks/Asians avoid sources saying they are really smart and just say they badong and destroy da wite men
>depression, friendlessness
>oh no Jews are here better to shut myself in my room and watch anime all day
>less civic engagement
>fuck voting Jews are out to get me
>dislike for other races, distrusting your neighbours, voting wars
>fuck if only Jews weren't my neighbors I wouldn't need to distrust my neighbors and if only they didn't exist anywhere in my observable universe I wouldn't need to hate them

>>8016569
eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Intellectuals

Marxists too
Wikipedia used to list 10 people as the leaders of the socialists in the German revolution of 1918-1919
8 were Jews. 2 were goyish, although 1 practically married a Jew and took his last name.
Rosa Luxemburg
Eugene Levin
Paul Levi
Karl Radek
Gustav Landauer
Ernst Toller
Kurst Eisner
Leo Jogiches

Wikipedia decided that that wasn't kosher and replaced them with a bunch of literally whos with stub articles

>>8016591

censoring Wikipedia is the jewish national sport
we better take screenshots, because they'll take down a few more things in the future:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_people_by_religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

>>8016579
>They also act against the interests of white people.
However dubious the claim is, you are basically saying that they racist while almost yelling gas the kikes. I don't doubt there are many of them who prioritize Jewish society over other ones but there are many white people like that too. You do it too. With chinks I don't really notice it unless you mean China as a country which is a poor qualifier for entire race. A lot of Jewish scientists don't even care much about their lineage.

You are expecting too much that while you are being racist here other races don't prioritize their own (as a race) survival pretty often.

>>8016591
>Wikipedia used to list 10 people as the leaders of the socialists in the German revolution of 1918-1919
Are you okay? They are all there an more with almost full articles.
>>8016599
Oh no feminism and faggots will destroy the white man.
>>>/pol/

>>8016602
>you are basically saying that they racist while almost yelling gas the kikes
>You do it too.
>you are being racist
Riveting stuff. How can I go on now that my secret agenda has been exposed. I DIDN'T EVEN REALISE that I was being A RACIST.

My point is that it's not in the interests of whites to keep these subversive aliens in their presence. Whites are my in-group. I favor policies that help whites. I have been open about this.

> other races don't prioritize their own (as a race) survival pretty often.
what planet do you live on?

>>8016618
>Are you okay? They are all there an more with almost full articles.
I guess they added them back. For a few months they were gone.

Franz Mehring, irrelevant goy added to dilute the Jewishness.
This guy's page is tiny.
"In 1916 the left-wing Marxist revolutionary Spartacus League was founded and Mehring was one of its main leaders alongside Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg.[1]"
Only mentioned once in the article for "Spartacus League" under a listing "prominent members"
What he actually did in the Spartacus League is unclear.

>>8016623
>what planet do you live on?
The whole sentence was supposed to be that you are demanding that other races not be racist to white people while you yourself are racist to them.

Also I guess the right way to ensure prosperity of mankind is to make a big race war where everyone loses instead of like improving humankind as a whole. Even Jewish scientists aren't assholes who keep shit Jew only, many of them don't even feel Jewish but you want to remove them for just being Jewish.

I don't think there is much of a point in discussing with >>>/pol/ unleashed though.
>>8016628
I don't think your theories of jews being behind everything are too /sci/. Again you will feel better in >>>/pol/
They have different definitions of proof.

>>8016632
Jews actually are behind a lot.

Open Society Foundations (OSF), formerly the Open Society Institute, is an international grantmaking network founded by business magnate George Soros.

Within these totals, OSF reported granting at least $33 million to civil rights and social justice organizations in the United States.[16] This funding included groups such as the Organization for Black Struggle and Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment that supported protests in the wake of the shooting of Trayvon Martin, the death of Eric Garner, the shooting of Tamir Rice and the shooting of Michael Brown.[17][18][19] According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the OSF spends much of its resources on democratic causes around the world, and has also contributed to groups such as the Tides Foundation.[20]

OSF has been a major financial supporter of U.S. immigration reform, including a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants,

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>>8016655
okay lets just assume for a sec that all these pol theories about jews pushing for social justice and race mixing are true.

i still haven't seen a coherent argument as to WHY they would want to do that. i mean, other than the logical one that would be 'they tend to be socially progressive (perhaps to an extreme in some cases)'.

the alternative seems to be this big 'race dilution' conspiracy, which, frankly, seems to be some sort of projection or outlandish retardation.

>>8016668
It's actually a time travel thing. The Jews, due to their early-phase "genetic" religion are a bloodline made from time travel interventions. If they don't manage to reintegrate themselves into the normal bloodlines of common/"natural" history in time, the contract they hold will be void or moved elsewhere.

Later on in the timelines, when Buddhism takes a proper hold, their faith becomes illegal (along with the other Abrahamics) because they didn't specify a self-consistent expiration date for their religious traditions.

/pol/ doesn't actually know this yet and they'd flip their shit if they knew how much time travel was involved with their conspiracies. Honestly they just need to lurk moar /x/.

>>8016668
Their religion is anti-Christian, and they associate Christianity and white civilisation.
They have lived amongst whites.
They thrive by parisitizing whites.
They have an evolved extreme in-group favoritism, and a strong desire to subvert

as such, they just developed a distaste for white people and for the white establishment

Sure, they're killing the cash cow, but it's not entirely logical

>>8016648
>no, it's to make sure white countries remain white so white people can keep innovating and inventing
Implying white people are needed for innovation and inventing and that somehow there being other races will make white people die.
>your policies
That's funny because I haven't shown any polices. I don't think not kicking someone out for race alone is a big enough thing to be called a policy.

>>8011986
>futurological

-Energy from numerous decentralized fusion reactors (skrew renewable fucking shits)
-due to abundant electrycity, hydrocarbons take a hike and are used only for plasic
-Mass automatization/digitalization of bureaucracy, thus lowering taxes
-Automatization of everything possible
-Basic income (high enough to keep you alive in good shape/not high enough to turn most people into leeches for life)
-~20-25 hour work day
-Cap on the number of uni students according to market demands
-technocratic government
-family planning encouraged
-mandatory genetic screening
-educational reform (highschool becomes mostly about developing your talents/ credit system)
-mandatory removal of genetically passed diseases
-universal healthcare for all citizens
-designer babies legal and free for all
-employ the broken window theory
-urban intensive farming
-recycling of rare earth elements (at least)
-citywide wi-fi
-monitoring the actions of government higher-ups 24/7 as an anti-corruption measure
-mixed economy where the state controls the strategic manufacturing/transport/mining infrastructure, governed and distributed by an AI, as to prevent inefficiencies or sortages that frequently happen in capitalism/communism
-no hatespeech laws

>>8016803
> 20-25 hour work day

>>8016752
>Not needed, but they do most of it.
Sounds like you're not even employing a proper Nash equilibrium.

>>8016803
I'd still have an lean to a society like the venus project.
No more money but work for the world and lets evolve, i like a lot of things of your list but with money there will be corruption.
But i think we could agree.

>>8016839
If you want to live in a post-scarcity economy, you have to be willing to give something away for free. I chose wishes, because I specialize in magic. You can similarly specialize in anything you want so long as you're willing to let the world benefit from it without repaying you in some kind of indirect process like a "cash flow."

>>8016265
EVERYWHERE where the niggers are in the majority they turn the place into a stinking dumpster, yeah coincidence...
Poor nigs want to work so bad but can't..
crimes? they dindu nuffins

test

Shitposting punishable by death

- Unused and under-used land should be used to grow food
- Cities should have indoor controlled public food gardens
- Abandoned towns [plenty of them look them up] should be used as Green Energy Experiment Towns; House the homeless and given them jobs; Should be sponsored by companies
- Law enforcement should remove "CRASH-culture [google CRASH Scandal]" via courses on Fallacies and Cognitive Biases
- Psychiatric-Social-Workforce Services should de-stigmatized being out work; all people should be allowed workslips for specialized education and work placement; customer service [that answers and works; given computers that have answers], farming, etc.
- Crime mapping should be integrated into the school system, childcare system
- Federal database for all serious crimes; violence, gang, sex crimes
- Trench area and draw lines mountains to arid regions for de-desertification
- Work on solar energy and encourage using less electricity
- Increase multi-source powered Monorails/Train/Bus systems
- Centralize all government in Gov Centers; physically but not legal status to allow for freedom
- Criminalize all conflicts of interest in Government and related services/companies
- Education should be centered on Job development and placement; better STEM and arts education

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>It's a "/pol/ invades /sci/ and posts relentlessly about how the jews and the blacks are the root of all problems in society" episode
really faggots?

>>8017639
Social Sciences such as Civil Engineering are considered the realm of sciences.

Also it's a general rule that truly intelligent people don't come to 4chan science and call people faggots.
Pseudo-intellectuals do though.
What is your degree in?

>>8017652
Math

I'm also not moron from /pol/ like you, stay assmad

>>8017654
What have you contributed to the society ?

>>8017660
Moving the goalposts assmad faggot, what does "the niggers and jews are why I'm a loser" contribute to society?

>>8017663
Do you live in a ghetto or israel ? Because you surely act like you got the credentials to make a comment about it without having any life experience.

>>8017654
>Ad hominem
I'm not from /pol.
I'm also not OP.
So you're an idiot on two counts.
How could you be that stupid and believe you belong here?
You don't being here.
Also, I'm not mad.
You're projecting.
Typically when people answer with a rational argument and a question while they laugh at you is an indicator they're more intelligent than you and not mad.
Keep pretending.

>>8017654
> I'm also not moron from /pol/ like you, stay assmad
into the trash your posts go

>>8017654
>>8017660
>>8017663
>>8017666
>>8017667
>>8017673
Jesus Christ
Listen to yourselves
Just try to stay on topic guys

fuck

>>8016070
>Commy, please go.

Whatthe fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills . I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces . You are nothing to me but just another target . I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words . You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet ? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm , maggot . The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead , kid. I can be anywhere , anytime , and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways , and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat , but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent , you little shit . If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t , you didn’t,

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>>8017817
That reminds me, what I needed to elaborate Free cities defense. As mentioned above they will share defense with the US, providing their own units of National guard, consisting of citizens of city-states as well as PMCs which would consist of professionals hired by corporations. Wealth and high industrial capacity of corporations would provide them with best training and advanced weapon systems and equipment, including drones and guided munitions. Corporate PMCs would cooperate with US government and exterminate terrorists both on the US territory and abroad (namely in the Middle East), as well as help fight drug trafficking on the US borders and exterminating drug cartels in Latin America.
This, when PMCs not distracted from their primary role in defending corporate interests in places such as Africa.
At the same time part of city-states exports would be drones, high tech weapon systems and munitions for Western countries and low grade weapons and munitions for Third world.

>>8017838
As Free cities drug policy goes light drugs,marijuana would be legal, while selling heavy drugs would be prohibited and punishable by death.
Generally city-states would apply death penalty for most violent crimes, however execution would be delayed for 5 years, ensuring that convict would have enough time to prove his innocence in case of juridical mistake. On the other hand, for real criminals this would give enough time to prepare for inevitable.

>easy mode
world population reduced to 1-2 billions and only the richest/best educated survive
>more complex
- focus on cities and returning areas that are not needed for the automated agriculture or renewable energy production to nature
- Islam is banned as well as most other beliefe systems
- government focuses on internal and external security and leaves everything else as much as possible to the free market
- also eugenics, so no more disabled people