Which genius do you identify with, sci?

>>8007868

Wildberger

>>8007872
>Wildberger
would you say he is a TBD?

>Darwin
>genius

All he did was make a logical observation and write a book about it

>>8007879
Umm anon some people can't even recall of they took a shower this morning. Much less connect all the dots that he did.

>>8007868
Who is the person on the left?

>>8007889
von Neumann

>>8007889
It's called 'El Chiquito de la Calzada'. A great Spaniard.

>>8007889
john von neumann. his mental ability is often said to be superhuman, not in a meme way, but in a legit next-step-in-human-evolution way.

he isn't as well known or appreciated as popular geniuses like einstein because his accomplishments were much more abstract for most people to understand.

he is one of the only people with a documented and verified truly eiditic memory, as well as one of the greatest polymaths to ever live, if not the greatest.

also he was completely socially normal, he had no autism or asperger spectrum characteristics.

his name would be on a very short list of smartest people to ever live.

>>8007868
Who's the first faggot.

>>8007889
he single handedly saved us from russian domination. hes pretty much dr.manhattan without the comic book super powers

>>8007904
No, Ozymandias would be more appropriate if we're talking Watchmen. He was "the smartest person to ever live" and he was actually the one who saved them from a nuclear holocaust, not Dr. Manhattan.

>>8007898

I just like that he's Hungarian. They generate bad-asses like Erdos, Von Neuman, Renyi, Paul Turán, László Lovász, and Babai.

>>8007904
I never saw him on the TV show "Manhattan". The show had me convinced that only Americans and Brits worked on the bomb.

he had a tragic comic-book death as well. he ended up getting brain cancer, and towards the very end of his life he lost a great deal of his intelligence.

a famous quote was something along the lines of "we could never keep up with him, until we could"

but even in his final moments, he was still schooling godel and solving his problems for him, and for fun he would recite a book from memory verbatim to his brother (which he had read like 15 years prior, in a different language) for long lengths of time.

>>8007868
Do I just not understand your scale at all? Or did you actually put Euclid and Leonardo above Einstein and Feynman?

>>8007868
Newton, ofc.

>>8007868
Newton.
>tfw virgin forever

Elon Musk!

>>8007868
Why are they all men? This chart is so sexist.

Bongo guy, I play bongos already. I just need to be good at explaining shit and be good at math and I'm done.

Da Vinci, because I love to make music, and drawing, besides my job as an engineer

>>8007916
He's a jew, most smart Hungarians are jews

>>8007868

Von Neumann is MASSIVELY overrated

His perfect memory was an insanely big advantage in a world with no internet and it made him look way smarter than he actually was

>>8008072
>perfect memory
>overrated

>>8007868
DaVinci and Newton.

>>8008072
>factoring the internet into your intelligence levels
Brainlets, I swear.

>>8008087
> not augmenting your brain capacity with technology

>>8008072
> massively overrated
you spelled Einstein wrong

>>8008091
>requiring augmentation at all
These brainlets, honestly.

>>8008100
> believing you're compleat

>>8008104
>not solving P=NP three years ago, at age ten
ISHYGDB

>>8008114
Underage b&.

>>8007898
>he is one of the only people with a documented and verified truly eiditic memory

No he isn't, it's still not certain that such a thing even exists.

>>8007879
That's all science is, senpai.

>>8007868
I wish people would use a younger picture of von neumann, that ugly bald piece of shit is the only picture of him I ever see

Nobody picks Galois. He's a never again between the never agains.

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Mochi Mochi Shinichi desu

>>8007879
>>8007879
So does literally every scientist.

>Gauss
>Maxwell
>100years

WOW

>meme indian
>500 years

WEW

>>8007868
>glorified cs codemonkey
>never again

Tesla because i visualize things in my mind i can visualize playing guitar and when i actually play the tones are right

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Why isn't he on the list?

>>8007879

This guy definitely shitposts >biology >real science.

In b4 "biology major detected", but it's not entirely wrong. Didn't major in biology in undergrad, but now in grad school in a quantitative biological/biomedical program.

Shakespeare

>>8008495
godel is already on the list m8

\spoiler but seriously satre is a hack sorry \spoiler

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>>8007868
>Dirac
>Not in 500 year category

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Aquinas.
The man was not human.

>>8007868
>500 years
5 of them lived within the last 500 years....

>>8009000
It means how often they're likely to occur

>>8009000

I r8 8/8, gr8 b8 m8.

>>8009005
if one genius like that is likely to occur every 500 years, then why there 5 of them in the last 400 years? that seems unlikely given your definition

>>8009017
Very unlikely. We were just lucky :)

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>>8008495
Because he shouldn't be

>>8008950
This desu senpai

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>>8007868
Hey someone important is missing from this list!

>>8007868
>von newman
Nice meme

>>8009035
Who is it?

>>8008408
>Who's that?

Johannes Kepler.

>>8009040
le black science man, who else

>>8007868
No Archimedes? No Euler? Have you even tried?

>>8008809
>Shakespeare

For Orpheus' lute was strung with poets' sinews,
Whose golden touch could soften steel and stones,
Make tigers tame and huge leviathans
Forsake unsounded deeps to dance on sands.

(...)

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

(...)

Besides, this Duncan
Hath borne his faculties so meek, hath been
So clear in his great office, that his virtues
Will plead like angels, trumpet-tongued, against
The deep damnation of his taking-off;
And pity, like a naked newborn babe,
Striding the blast, or heaven’s cherubim, horsed
Upon the sightless couriers of the air,
Shall blow the horrid deed in every eye,
That tears shall drown the wind.

(...)

Could great men thunder
As Jove himself does, Jove would ne'er be quiet,
For every pelting, petty officer
Would use his heaven for thunder;
Nothing but thunder! Merciful Heaven,
Thou rather with thy sharp and sulphurous bolt
Split'st the unwedgeable and gnarled oak
Than the soft myrtle: but man, proud man,
Drest in a little brief authority,
Most ignorant of what he's most assured,
His glassy essence, like an angry ape,
Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven
As make the angels weep; who, with our spleens,
Would all themselves laugh mortal.

>>8007868
No Socrates? I am disappoint.

>>8009126


Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

(...)

We are oft to blame in this, -
'tis too much proved, - that with devotion's visage,
and pios action we do sugar o'er
the devil himself.

(...)

A lover's eyes will gaze an eagle blind.
A lover's ear will hear the lowest sound,
When the suspicious head of theft is stopped.
Love's feeling is more soft and sensible
Than are the tender horns of cockled snails.
Love's tongue proves dainty Bacchus gross in taste.
For valor, is not Love a Hercules,
Still climbing trees in the Hesperides?
Subtle as Sphinx; as sweet and musical
As bright Apollo's lute, strung with his hair.
And when Love speaks, the voice of all the gods
Make heaven drowsy with the harmony.

(...)
What is here?
Gold? yellow, glittering, precious gold? No, gods,
I am no idle votarist: roots, you clear heavens!
Thus much of this will make black white, foul fair,
Wrong right, base noble, old young, coward valiant.
Ha, you gods! why this? what this, you gods? Why, this
Will lug your priests and servants from your sides,
Pluck stout men's pillows from below their heads:
This yellow slave
Will knit and break religions, bless the accursed,
Make the hoar leprosy adored, place thieves
And give them title, knee and approbation
With senators on the bench: this is it
That makes the wappen'd widow wed again;
She, whom the spital-house and ulcerous sores
Would cast the gorge at, this embalms and spices
To the April day again. Come, damned earth,
Thou common whore of mankind, that put'st odds
Among the route of nations, I will make thee
Do thy right nature.

>>8009155

Let me look back upon thee. O thou wall,
That girdlest in those wolves, dive in the earth,
And fence not Athens! Matrons, turn incontinent!
Obedience fail in children! slaves and fools,
Pluck the grave wrinkled senate from the bench,
And minister in their steads! to general filths
Convert o' the instant, green virginity,
Do 't in your parents' eyes! bankrupts, hold fast;
Rather than render back, out with your knives,
And cut your trusters' throats! bound servants, steal!
Large-handed robbers your grave masters are,
And pill by law. Maid, to thy master's bed;
Thy mistress is o' the brothel! Son of sixteen,
pluck the lined crutch from thy old limping sire,
With it beat out his brains! Piety, and fear,
Religion to the gods, peace, justice, truth,
Domestic awe, night-rest, and neighbourhood,
Instruction, manners, mysteries, and trades,
Degrees, observances, customs, and laws,
Decline to your confounding contraries,
And let confusion live! Plagues, incident to men,
Your potent and infectious fevers heap
On Athens, ripe for stroke! Thou cold sciatica,
Cripple our senators, that their limbs may halt
As lamely as their manners. Lust and liberty
Creep in the minds and marrows of our youth,
That 'gainst the stream of virtue they may strive,
And drown themselves in riot! Itches, blains,
Sow all the Athenian bosoms; and their crop
Be general leprosy! Breath infect breath,
at their society, as their friendship, may
merely poison! Nothing I'll bear from thee,
But nakedness, thou detestable town!
Take thou that too, with multiplying bans!
Timon will to the woods; where he shall find
The unkindest beast more kinder than mankind.
The gods confound--hear me, you good gods all--
The Athenians both within and out that wall!
And grant, as Timon grows, his hate may grow
To the whole race of mankind, high and low! Amen.

(...)

Plate sin with gold,
And the strong lance of justice hurtless breaks:
Arm it in rags, a pigmy's straw does pierce it.

>>8009162

Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes;
Nothing of him that doth fade,
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell:
Ding-dong.
Hark! now I hear them — Ding-dong, bell.

(...)

When icicles hang by the wall
And Dick the shepherd blows his nail
And Tom bears logs into the hall
And milk comes frozen home in pail,
When blood is nipp'd and ways be foul,
Then nightly sings the staring owl, Tu-whit;
Tu-who, a merry note,
While greasy Joan doth keel the pot.

When all aloud the wind doth blow
And coughing drowns the parson's saw
And birds sit brooding in the snow
And Marian's nose looks red and raw,
When roasted crabs hiss in the bowl,
Then nightly sings the staring owl, Tu-whit;
Tu-who, a merry note,
While greasy Joan doth keel the pot.

(...)

By heaven, methinks it were an easy leap
To pluck bright honor from the pale-faced moon,
Or dive into the bottom of the deep,
Where fathom line could never touch the ground,
And pluck up drownèd honor by the locks

(...)

Ha, majesty! how high thy glory towers 365
When the rich blood of kings is set on fire!
O! now doth Death line his dead chaps with steel;
The swords of soldiers are his teeth, his fangs;
And now he feasts, mousing the flesh of men,
In undetermin’d differences of kings. 370
Why stand these royal fronts amazed thus?
Cry ‘havoc!’ kings; back to the stained field,
You equal-potents, fiery-kindled spirits!
Then let confusion of one part confirm
The other’s peace; till then, blows, blood, and death!

(...)

Let them come.
They come like sacrifices in their trim,
And to the fire-eyed maid of smoky war
All hot and bleeding will we offer them.

>>8009174

And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

(...)

These are the forgeries of jealousy:
And never, since the middle summer's spring,
Met we on hill, in dale, forest or mead,
By paved fountain or by rushy brook,
Or in the beached margent of the sea,
To dance our ringlets to the whistling wind,
But with thy brawls thou hast disturb'd our sport.
Therefore the winds, piping to us in vain,
As in revenge, have suck'd up from the sea
Contagious fogs; which falling in the land
Have every pelting river made so proud
That they have overborne their continents:
The ox hath therefore stretch'd his yoke in vain,
The ploughman lost his sweat, and the green corn
Hath rotted ere his youth attain'd a beard;
The fold stands empty in the drowned field,
And crows are fatted with the murrion flock;
The nine men's morris is fill'd up with mud,
And the quaint mazes in the wanton green
For lack of tread are undistinguishable:
The human mortals want their winter here;
No night is now with hymn or carol blest:
Therefore the moon, the governess of floods,
Pale in her anger, washes all the air,
That rheumatic diseases do abound:
And thorough this distemperature we see
The seasons alter: hoary-headed frosts
Far in the fresh lap of the crimson rose,
And on old Hiems' thin and icy crown
An odorous chaplet of sweet summer buds
Is, as in mockery, set: the spring, the summer,
The childing autumn, angry winter, change
Their wonted liveries, and the mazed world,
By their increase, now knows not which is which:
And this same progeny of evils comes
From our debate, from our dissension;
We are their parents and original.

>>8009126
>>8009155
>>8009162
>>8009174
>>8009184

I have given suck, and know
How tender ’tis to love the babe that milks me.
I would, while it was smiling in my face,
Have plucked my nipple from his boneless gums
And dashed the brains out, had I so sworn as you
Have done to this.

(...)

No matter where; of comfort no man speak:
Let's talk of graves, of worms, and epitaphs; 1555
Make dust our paper and with rainy eyes
Write sorrow on the bosom of the earth,
Let's choose executors and talk of wills:
And yet not so, for what can we bequeath
Save our deposed bodies to the ground? 1560
Our lands, our lives and all are Bolingbroke's,
And nothing can we call our own but death
And that small model of the barren earth
Which serves as paste and cover to our bones.
For God's sake, let us sit upon the ground 1565
And tell sad stories of the death of kings;
How some have been deposed; some slain in war,
Some haunted by the ghosts they have deposed;
Some poison'd by their wives: some sleeping kill'd;
All murder'd: for within the hollow crown 1570
That rounds the mortal temples of a king
Keeps Death his court and there the antic sits,
Scoffing his state and grinning at his pomp,
Allowing him a breath, a little scene,
To monarchize, be fear'd and kill with looks, 1575
Infusing him with self and vain conceit,
As if this flesh which walls about our life,
Were brass impregnable, and humour'd thus
Comes at the last and with a little pin
Bores through his castle wall, and farewell king! 1580
Cover your heads and mock not flesh and blood
With solemn reverence: throw away respect,
Tradition, form and ceremonious duty,
For you have but mistook me all this while:
I live with bread like you, feel want, 1585
Taste grief, need friends: subjected thus,
How can you say to me, I am a king?

And etc., and etc., and etc. The guy was a fucking top-tier genius.

>>8009195
>The guy was a fucking top-tier genius.
after using weed, cocaine, meth, every single drug possible no wonder he could think so far out of the box

>>8009200
>no wonder he could think so far out of the box

Is not that he was a great thinker, a original thinker. What he was capable as nobody else in human history was of using metaphors in so sublime a way (with so much fertility and abundance) that there isnt any other writer who can even come near his sublime verbal beauty.

He also was able to speak with a great variety of points of view; he could nest in the brain of several different humans, yet even this comes in second place when compared to his amazing poetic powers.

>>8009214
...yea, that's exactly what I was going to say...only not so eloquently

von Neumann was Isaac Newton/ Da Vinci-tier, except he had access to modern technology.

We just have to wait another 100 years before another one comes around.

>>8008040
I'm an engineering student and a music producer. Da vinci is the absolute bee's knees to me

>>8007868

>unknown cuck is higher ranked than Gauß

Your diagram gave me cancer

>>8009266
>diagram

>>8009266
Which one is that

Is Johannes Kepler known to anyone as genius??

>>8009266
Euler is ranked higher than Gauss by most, and he isn't even in OP's pic.

>>8009284
>William Whewell, in his influential History of the Inductive Sciences of 1837, found Kepler to be the archetype of the inductive scientific genius; in his Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences of 1840, Whewell held Kepler up as the embodiment of the most advanced forms of scientific method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler#Historical_and_cultural_legacy

>>8009275
The smug looking one. The one that knows he's better than you, and doesn't even try to hide it.

>>8009284
He's a genius in a sense that his ideas were revolutionary. I believe even Newton mentioned how Important Kepler was and we wouldn't have Newtons laws today, which were generalized from Kepler's specific ones.

>>8007879
>Darwin

Is an asshole. Another scientist by the name of Wallace had the same observations. Like the good scientist he was, he approached Darwin suggesting they compare notes. What did Darwin do? He made sure to get his shit back to England ASAP and publish before Wallace. What a fucking dick.

>>8009310
nice b8

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>>8009035

I love him. But I'm a stoner not a nerd

>>8009310
I heard a very similar anecdote concerning Hilbert and Einstein (rather than Wallace and Darwin).

>>8009340
>>8009340
Don't forget Newton and Lipnitch

>>8007889
Von Neumann. Literally the smartest dude to have ever lived.

where is this from?

>>8009162
>Let me look back upon thee. O thou wall,
>That girdlest in those wolves, dive in the earth,
>And fence not Athens! Matrons, turn incontinent!
>Obedience fail in children! slaves and fools,
>Pluck the grave wrinkled senate from the bench,
>And minister in their steads! to general filths
>Convert o' the instant, green virginity,
>Do 't in your parents' eyes! bankrupts, hold fast;
>Rather than render back, out with your knives,
>And cut your trusters' throats! bound servants, steal!
>Large-handed robbers your grave masters are,
>And pill by law. Maid, to thy master's bed;
>Thy mistress is o' the brothel! Son of sixteen,
>pluck the lined crutch from thy old limping sire,
>With it beat out his brains! Piety, and fear,
>Religion to the gods, peace, justice, truth,
>Domestic awe, night-rest, and neighbourhood,
>Instruction, manners, mysteries, and trades,
>Degrees, observances, customs, and laws,
>Decline to your confounding contraries,
>And let confusion live! Plagues, incident to men,
>Your potent and infectious fevers heap
>On Athens, ripe for stroke! Thou cold sciatica,
>Cripple our senators, that their limbs may halt
>As lamely as their manners. Lust and liberty
>Creep in the minds and marrows of our youth,
>That 'gainst the stream of virtue they may strive,
>And drown themselves in riot! Itches, blains,
>Sow all the Athenian bosoms; and their crop
>Be general leprosy! Breath infect breath,
>at their society, as their friendship, may
>merely poison! Nothing I'll bear from thee,
>But nakedness, thou detestable town!
>Take thou that too, with multiplying bans!
>Timon will to the woods; where he shall find
>The unkindest beast more kinder than mankind.
>The gods confound--hear me, you good gods all--
>The Athenians both within and out that wall!
>And grant, as Timon grows, his hate may grow
>To the whole race of mankind, high and low! Amen.

>>8008105
As a developmental biologist, this made me incredibly upset

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Noether's Theorem is based as fuck and probably the most underappreciated contribution to physics in the last century.

>>8008408
john cared. if he didn't care about humanity we'd all be a part of communist russia right now, or simply dead

>>8010374
Noether should be on the list of 50-year geniuses, but I guess we can't fit all of the 50-year geniuses onto that list.

>>8009195
>I have given suck

>>8010399
Convenient philosophy for someone who helped develop atomic weapons, lol..

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>Which genius do you identify with, sci?

Like so.

I consider him a Genius. I'd be interested if anyone disagrees

>>8007868
Why the fuck are davinci and darwin on there.

>No Turing

cucks

>>8010457
>actively seeking out disagreement
Srry but no. I agree. Had you posted Mozart i would disagree tho

>>8010545
The world isn't yet ready for gay atheist scientists

>>8009232
I agree. We probably had like 3 or 4 Von Neumann's floating around, they just died at childbirth or never got private math tutoring as kids or were alcoholics or shit like that.

>>8010610
Alcohol here. Can *sic* confirm I am was A NewMan if *sic* only my poor genes didn't ruin my brain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann

How much can you read without completely shattering your ego?

>>8010626
Before you realize he was a meme?

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>>8008408
>ramanujan
>useless

>why is gauss so smug

>>8010374
She also devised a neat time series pattern recognition algorithm

>>8007879
Wallace deduced critical observations, particularly in his studies on differences of Australian wildlife and that just north of it due to a channel no species was able to cross.

Wallace got to the Origin of Species before Darwin, but was more interested in his job of sending back exotic animals for sale then scientific fame. Establishment god boy Darwin went on to published his Origin of Species as the first name claimant, with Wallace's name as a co-author, though people never remember recall the seconded co-authors as Darwin knew et el.

>>8008573
I think he writes something like

>biology is just rote memorization, hurrdurr

>>8007886
What's worse is he just read other people's work and synthesized it and passed it off as his own work.

>>8007868
me on the left

>>8007868
Where the fuck is Euler?

>>8007918
That's pretty funny

>>8009219
He used "sublime" twice in short succession, so the jury's out on eloquence.

>>8010403

Noether derived and proved one of the single most foundational elements of modern physics. Think about how often you use symmery and conservation laws in physics without even thinking about it. It's literally one of the very first things you get taught to do in physics and it never ever ever stops being incredibly useful and elucidating.

Noether was a top tier genius who never got any recognition because she was a woman. Fuck this stupid shitty unfair world.

>>8009219
A eloquence.

>>8007868
None, because I'm not a genius and don't pretend to be.

>>8007868

>Newton ranked higher than Leibniz
>despite the fact that Leibniz came up with the concept of differentiation and integration first

britfags BTFO

Leonardo da Vinci

He was the base of hundreds upon thousands of modern technologies; medical sciences, mathematics,the arts, astrology, and some very early military plans, which in my opinion are hundreds of years beyond him. Been a role model for me since I heard about him.

>>8007868
Mochizuki will be in at least the 100 year caegory

>>8007868
Marie Curie

>>8007868
Where's Grothendieck? Boltzmann? Dirac? Pauli? Heisenberg? Schrödinger? So many people are missing.

What about James Sidis?

>>8007868
Heisenberg. He's obviously the most based person ever.

>>8011703
She also revolutionized abstract algebra. In tandem with what you said, she was top-tier.

>>8011703
If everyone does something without even thinking about it, then how can someone take credit for it?

>>8007868
Where is Richard Dawkins?

>>8011933

We didn't do it that way before Noether, dingdong.

isaac newton is literally the smartest person in that list op

>>8007868
needs Plato and Kant

>>8010637
is this supposed to be a complaint or an argument?

>>8008072
Bait.
Can you solve infinite serie in your head?

>>8007868
>Da Vinci
>500 years

All he did was draw pretty charts and create abortions of more successful inventions

The guy is a meme

>>8012089
>kunt - the "deliberately make sentences as long as possible to hide my insecurity about being a brainlet" man
>genius

>>8010352
Are you joking dude? Timon of Athens. It's a pretty fun play about how people are shit.

>>8012323
lmao if anyones the brainlet its you