Is virginity beneficient to mathematical/scientific work?

He could've spent a partial moment of his life making a baby then having that baby raised to continue his legacy. The question is whether raising the baby is worth the risk.

No.

Yes.

Fucking/Masturbating chemically kills your drive(desensitizes dopamine receptors, then reduces dopamine with prolactin. Prolactin is the male orgasm chem). So when you are not wasting time with porn and pussy, you are unmotivated for anything else.

There is more: the male libido comes from Estradiol, which is made from Testosterone. Estradiol is an estrogen, and it's constant presence in the blood effeminates the brain in the long term, and increases aggressiveness in the short-term. "Without libido, women quickly become awkward beings in the eyes of a male".

These are the main two. A minor one I haven't get into depth is that you lose a considerable amount of minerals in ejaculation(mainly zinc). I think it is fair to say that if you lost the same volume in blood, you wouldn't doubt it was a bad thing. And it is fair to say your body produces more easily blood than semen, so semen is even more precious.

These are the biological facts on this, I will come later with Macro/Societal ones in a minute.

>>7867301
Probably not, I doubt the two are related. For example Newton was virgin and did well, but both Einstein and Feynman were the opposite of virgins and did just as well. Ignore this guy >>7867345, he's just another "no fap" faggot.

>>7867345

None of that addresses the question, and some of it is just wrong. Being a virgin means never having sex. That's all it means. Nothing to do with libido.

>I think it is fair to say that if you lost the same volume in blood, you wouldn't doubt it was a bad thing.

Well you're wrong about that. Not onlyisit not a bad thing, but there's a fair anoubt of evidence it's actually beneficial.

>>7867301
Unless chasing tail cuts into time you could be working, studying or learning, then no. There's absolutely no correlation between sexual activity and maths and science. To justify a life of abstinence with the pursuit of knowledge displays a lack of intelligence and understanding in that you start controlling completely separate, rudimentary functions of biology to aid your ability to learn and process. For proof of concept, see >>7867345

>>7867345
Do you think people are cumming literal bucks? Sit there under your fucking rock and tell me that losing volume of sperm equivalent to a loogy is a "bad thing"

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>>7867345
Here is the follow-up

Alright, so there is a book called "Sex and Culture" by Unwin JD from 1934 that claims: "The main driver for the rise of a civilisation is the degree of chastity". Joseph Daniel Unwin(1895-1936) studied 86 cultures through 5000 years and found a positive correlation between the cultural achievement of a people and the sexual restraint they observed. He found that discipline in sexual matters appropriated social energy to more civilizational ends.

So on a macro scale, the most prolific are the opposite of the most sexualised. An easy proof of this is to compare sexuality with growth and longterm good life standards. We know that the tribal countries of Brazil, India, Filipines, Mexico, and generally Africa are Very Clearly Promiscuous, being filled with major sexual events and parties, and generally a sex-orientated social life from the early age, are not as productive nor peaceful as other countries where sex is hardly mentioned on a day-to-day basis.

Watch this video of Ted Bundy, the famous psychopath, at his last hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlk_sRU49TI

He confesses a good childhood, but hypersexuality. These are the words of desensitised man, on his last breaths. And he takes the final trouble to warn the world about pornography.

>>7867455
This is basically the r-selected and K-selected theory.

>>7867458
>2016
>Unironically using r/K selection theory

Kek.

>>7867466
why not?

>>7867510
It's largely been discredited as overly simplistic since the 70's (if I'm remembering rightly, it could be the 80's). Also the way it's used on 4chainz is a massive distortion of what the theory is and any explanations using it always seem to run afoul of the worst kind of anthropomorphising.

>>7867455
>>7867345
Before you go into the tricky biochemistry of the brain which we don't actually understand, consider this.

Genius requires self-control. Being able to force yourself to work hard is not the only benefit - the more important one is being able to consider objective ideas that aren't intuitive.

While I can't say that this is the recipe for an Einstein, the success of civilisation definitly depends on it's level of self-discipline. If you want convincing proof of this read Steven Pinker's great work, on the history of violence.

So does reproduction hurt intelligence? Only if you cannot control your sexual urges. If you have sex rarely and have children, but you are in control of your actions and not your instincts, then you are good.

>>7867541
>overly simplistic
You can't really expect us to go into extreme detail on things like this, especially not on an imageboard. In general, I think the theory makes sense. You need to look no further than the upper middle class people having 0 or 1 child while impoverished people have 5 or 6.

>>7867554
Child count is not the issue here. It is indeed promiscuity. It's like I have to explain we are discussing libido, not really reproduction. It's like you don't know one can have sex without reproducing, or even just plain masturbate without paying child pension for it. I am not 7867541, but he is right, 4chan makes a mess of simple concepts which are loosely related to the subject in hand.

So shut the fuck up.

>>7867455
>hypersexuality
Lots of chaste people being deranged fucktards, usually every behaviour tests negatively against extreme application of it, it simply corrupts the psyche. Chastity is deleterious because your hormones go batshit crazy, especially if you practice sport seriously, and fucking every second is basically exhausting. I'll pull the rabbit from the hat citing Aristoteles: in medias res stat virtus. Basically you gotta decide what to do with your time, fuck a bit and then study, or fuck a lot and be happy. Biased

>>7867579
Of course you can't resist stooping to insults. This tells me your premise is weak.

>>7867554
>I think the theory makes sense

Great. Unfortunately it has very little relation to reality. In fact there were a series of experiments done in the 80s that put populations of fruit flies under K-selection pressures and they started to adopt r-strategies. This is contra to what they should have done.

>impoverished people have 5 or 6.

Having large numbers of offspring is an r-strategy, yet impoverished peoples living in environments that should (in r/K theory) favour K-strategists (ie. an environment where there is competition for limited resources). This really highlights another problem with applying r/K selection theory to humans, namely:
>Most people don't have to compete for resources.

As such applying r/K-theory is always going to lead you down dead ends, worse still it ignores lots of important societal factors, for example religion. In large parts of the world it's considered a religious duty to have lots of children, clearly an appeal to r/K theory isn't going to help there.

>>7867345
Well this is bullshit
>>7867455
But this is true
It's nothing to do with actually having sex it's to do with being made to seek sex. You see cultures such as the black one will prioritize that their kid gets laid over getting a degree hence the kid will spend more time on the former. As a black guy who did well at school I am constantly being looked down on by other black people because I've never had a gf. Call me uncle tom but I generally don't associate with other black people for this reason; I can't stand the hypersexuality. Everything is sex sex sex.

>>7867592
You speak like you have some form of mental illness.

>>7867608
It's not bullshit, you fucking retard

>>7867617
So how do you explain people such as:

>Feynman
> Heisenberg
> Einstein
>Landau (He believe in and practices "free love")

Shit even Dirac got some and he was literally autistic. All had sex (some more than others) yet all of them achieve more than anyone else in this thread could ever hope to. Your theory is bullshit m80, just accept it and move on.

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>>7867622
>Feynman
Half-retarded clown, I don't give him enough credit
>Einstein
Even worse: Fraud, just shows you know nothing about Poincare and Lorentz
>Heisenberg
A Lutheran Christian, not really the rap artist of sex
>Landau
Sure, this Preeeetty boy was juuust digging in pussy

What else?

That is not even a refutation. One could say their achievement would be greater with less sex. None of them are hippies on orgies, nor were exposed to early sexualised. Heave,s, their culture was much better behaved, if a guy was known for free love, it meant kissing a lady.

Shut the fuck up, you dumbass. Come with an actual refutation.

>>7867638
wow it is hilarious that someone is this desperate to prove that being a failure with women makes him a superior intellect.

>>7867642
Anything else?

>>7867644
Yeah, you should kill yourself ASAP.

>>7867455
Sounds like a true study and not some victorian age bs.

>>7867656
Telling someone to kill himself is a crime, which only proves my point, dumbass.

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>>7867638
>Come with an actual refutation.
>Real life examples of people both having an active sex life and being geniuses
>Not evidence against a theory.

kek. But while I'm here:

>Fraud, just shows you know nothing about Poincare and Lorentz

It's like you're actually retarded or something. Both Lorentz and Poincare contributed to special relativity (Lorentz name is even given to the Lorentz transformation that occasionally crops up in SR). The reason Einstein is given the credit for developing SR is because he was the first person to remove the ideas of an absolute space and time. Indeed both the work of Lorentz and Poincare was predicated on the idea of an Aether, something which Einstein removed. Moreover Poincare did derive E=mc^2 it would take someone who has never read a single book on SR to think that this is was the whole of relativity, no, this only works in a the special case of a stationary charge (you'll notice the inclusion of the word "charge", this is because Poincare showed that the energy of a charge particle was related to it's mass, while in relatvity [math] E=m c ^2 [/math] has far deeper implications relating to Lorentz invariance). The full relation [math] E^2 = m ^4 c ^2 + p ^2 c ^2 [/math] needed the full machinery of relativity to derive it.

Lastly I leave you with pic related, it's the abstract from Einstein's paper on SR, for those that understand it, this argument is wonderful and truly elegant. It was this consistent framework that meant that Einsteins name would be associated mainly with relativity.

>>7867689
I don't see your point.

>>7867705
Okay then, let me tl;dr it for you:
>tl;dr: you're a retard who doesn't understand what he's talking about. To move beyond your plebeian nature read more and browse /pol/ less.

>>7867689
>to remove the ideas of an absolute space and time
"In 1899 and again in 1904, Lorentz added time dilation to his transformations and published what Poincaré in 1905 named Lorentz transformations.[9][10]"

Just stop parroting your retarded rhetorics.

>>7867689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCNZPjyxD1E

>>7867613
Are you really insulting me? You know that is going to have no effect whatsoeve r except me telling you this? Go to /pol if you want people to insult you back. I think you are lovely

>>7867715
I wouldn't expect a plebeian such as yourself to understand but I'll try. They were still using a classical Aether theory:
>[math] \mathbb{ THE~~AETHER~~WAS~~A~~PREFERRED~~REFERENCE~~FRAME} [/math]

So they were still to remove the idea of absolute rest from their theories, this was always going to be a dead end, as we now know. It's perhaps interesting that this idea that Einstein plagiarised Lorentz is more of a modern development, during their day both were quite good friends, frequently writing to one and other.

>>7867719
Oh wow a youtube video.

>>7867739
>I think you are lovely
Please, don't be gay near me.

You are clearly mentally ill, rhetorical, and just plain full of shit. Just fuck off away from me, you filth.

>>7867745
What the fuck are you saying, man? I just fucking said Lorentz came up with time dilation, what the fuck are you saying about hypothetical aether, which has nothing to do with the claim that Einstein was the first to claim relative time.

>both were quite good friends
Dumbass, get out of here, you are going apeshit already, you have no formality or intelligence I can relate to.

>>7867756
>What the fuck are you saying, man?

kek, brainlets when will they learn?

>>7867761
You got beaten on your shitty off-topic reply

>>7867748
Go on, make me cum! I am almost there, insult me more!

>>7867638
Not really fraud. More like role modelling. He did the tactically smart thing doing a few dog-years defending the monopolies. Thereafter he was allowed to become a role model because having him famous after having worked there could inspire others to take the same route protecting dem flows of money.

>>7867301
Look at Richard Feynman and get back to me.

>>7867345
>>7867455

>citing Ted Bundy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>7867301
Being social is usually beneficial for getting recognition for ones work. There seems to me there is a comorbidity between being social and having a sex life.

So if focus is on recognition my answer would be yes.

However may be true that asexuals have more time spend and get good but their lack of social activity makes almost no one else know what the heck they are doing.

>>7867898
>you have to fuck hookers to be social and publish your work
This faggot started with the bad foot

>>7867301
Einstein, Von Neumann, Feynman, I think even Godel (he married a dancer he met in a club and apparently had a thing for milfs), were all major pussy hounds.

Newton was just a turbo autist. Nothing wrong with that but I don't think there's any reason to believe you have to be celibate to be good at science, its just what worked for him.

>>7867921
Einstein wasn't a slayer. He was so beta that he married his own cousin.

>>7867927
It's widely accepted that he cheated on both of his wives. He admitted it when he divorced the first one and it probably continued.

>>7867901
So I contributed with jokingly drawing parallells between social life and sex life and you go full blown retard somehow trying to pull in half a brothel into my letter.

Clearly not worth to put more of my time on it if there is such a killing lack of humor.

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>>7867921
>von Neumann
A married Catholic, who was also "a notoriously bad driver" was a pussy hound.
>Godel
A married theist, in the Christian tradition, was a PUSSY HOUND.

ITT: People mention married half-retards

>>7867938
Shut the fuck up. Stick your humor up your fucking ass, this is a Science and Mathematics board.

>>7867950
Yes it is very much about science and mathematics, and oh look a thread about sex.

>>7867956
It is actually against sex, in favor of Science and Mathematics, bitch.

>>7868000
It's autistic circlejerk.

>tfw we will never be able to ban brainlets from this board.

>>7868005
>brainlet
Are you still here? Please, man... Just fuck off, you have shit for brains and you are a boring narcissist, no one cares. You have failed life and you spend time here where no one can hit your face for talking shit, just go jerk off

>>7868017
>Doesn't know that brainlet is a common word around here
>Being this new

>>7868005
>tfw we will never be able to ban brainlets from this board.

We could have logic problem captchas...

>>7868023
>Shit
instead of
>shit
Go fap to a tranny, fake

i hate this fucking board

>>7867301
No, it's just a consequence of it.

>>7867301
>implying Newton did any scientific or mathematical work
He literally only ever did high school physics and calculus. Trivial brainlet stuff.

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>>7868074
Just cry and play the victim, you dumb slut/fag

>>7868082
Then it is beneficent, you superretard

>>7867941
Von nueman was agnostic he didn't go to church or take it seriously til he was dying and he was widely known as a hedonist and he hit on all the women at Los Alamos.

Gödel had numerous affairs with older women which his family objected to, probably didn't cheat on his wife though seems he really loved her. Still though she was a milf dancer he met in a club these guys weren't Newton tier puritan autists that's the point.

>>7868088
Can you not understand basic logic? He's saying that A causes B, so being successful leads to virginity. Not that being a virgin leads to success. How the fuck can you not understand that?

>>7868096
If A causes B, as in study cause virginity, then non-virginity means no study, and virginity correlates with study at some degree. Well, if A causes B, and if virginity is rare, virginity correlates strongly with intelligence, and thus accepting virginity is beneficial to studying. Therefore it is beneficent.

I am waiting for your next shitpost.

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>>7868088
>>7868104
Stop

>>7868093
Funny how you know so much about it, it is almost suspicious. It is like the one who told you that wanted to make sure that you knew about a bunch of loser's sex life. Still, compared to anything on a popular alpha male today, that is nothing. And I am sure these were all ape tier urges these poor smart fellows had once in awhile...

>>7868104
I'm not going to argue this with you. This is the literal first 10 minutes in any class on logic, the only retard in this thread is you.

>>7868121
That is right, lose the fucking argument and call me a retard. It is not like I wasn't expecting it. You still can't fucking delete my post, and any reader will be the judge, so get fucked with your retardation.

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>>7868119

Is the kissless brainlet the most depressing sight you've ever seen?

>>7868119
I know because I am a loser anon and read about these people cause I have nothing better to do.

>>7868133
I had a (marxist) "philosophy/sociology" teacher who would tell me Nietzsche was mad about some bitch, and he couldn't cum on her face because he was ugly. This same teacher never taught anything else about what Nietzsche said, nor anyone, yet he would know these stuff. I wish this never happened, but it fucking did. That is why I am suspicious. I understand it is easy to have influence with this data, and we should be skeptical and think about other's goals often enough, otherwise we fail the noble part of life.

Tip: this teacher would a lot of this "soap opera" shit about famous thinkers as he could get a hand, and obviously he wouldn't verify it

Extra tip: he was a "bisexual", once a year he would dress his wife's clothes or something, and generally, when with fear or other trigger, he would act like a goddamn female. At the same time, he was quite narcissistic. Fucking kek

>>7868169
That's weird to only know that kind of stuff about someone.

I'm just obsessive when I get interested in something, I wanted to understand incompleteness so I read about that then started reading about Gödel.

I know about Von Numemn because people posted shit about him on here.

>if you spend half of your time thinking about how to get pussy or trying to get pussy you are less productive if you spent half of your time thinking about getting that phd
>news at eleven

>>7867301
>beneficient

>>7868169
>marxist
>teacher
>narcissistic
I had the same philosophy teacher (female) in high school. She knew many trivial topics about many authors, and she was very smart.
But she avoided talking about Nietzsche.

Sometimes, she would bring some pro-marx papers to the class, so we could gather some info for the exams.