So I wonder if there is scientific evidence that excessive masturbation and porn use is negative?
After hearing a lot of stories on nofap I got curious and tried it. Have been nofap/noporn for the past 3 weeks and honestly it feels amazing and will continue with it. But I also believe if it may possibly be placebo.
One of the few studies I've found show that on the 7th day of nofap testosterone in men is increased to 150% and then levels out after that:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241
There was another study that says it takes 3 days after masturbating for your testosterone level to go back up to it's normal levels. So if you masturbate every 2 days, your testosterone will be lower than normal.
Anyone have opinions / thoughts / studies / experiences on this subject?
>>7841933
>compulsive
There's the queue. What do the brains of other compulsive ____ look like?
>>7841933
Yea man porn reduces grey matter look at this flipping cool article on it
Science rocxs
http://www.iflscience.com/brain/researchers-find-association-between-porn-viewing-and-less-grey-matter-brain
>>7841943
fuk yah syense!! :D
You are fucking retarded
>>7841943
Wow, what an irrelevant test with terrible everything. lol.
>>7841950
Good refutation
>>7841964
So which is it, does it take 3 days after masturbating for your testosterone level to go back up to it's normal levels or "on the 7th day of nofap testosterone in men is increased to 150%"? And what exactly lowers testosterone this long? And what is this brain scan you just posted? And how is testosterone itself related to libido, and not the opposite, and the same time you expect the lack of libido to correlate with high test?
>>7841978
Are you dense?
>3 days: 100% of average baseline reading
>7 days: 150% of average baseline reading
>7+ days: plateau
Does someone have to graph this for you? I bet you're grumpy because you lack testosterone because you jack off so much.
>>7841978
also:
>Ejaculate: body has to replenish lost semen, lowers testosterone to decrease urge to fuck
>After three days body is optimal for finding mate and fucking, testosterone good
>After seven days body has strong urge to fuck so increases testosterone further
It seems pretty straightforward.
>>7841992
No, I have actually read the 7 days study and it says test was 100% baseline from day 1. So which is it?
And if the "3 days study" says test goes back to normal after 3 days, that means it goes beyond Your levels towards the general normal levels. So it goes beyond 100%(say 150%). You haven't read your own links, stupid.
>>7841998
So if my urge to fuck stays significant, is it alright to fap? Doesn't that mean that people who fap multiple times a day have increased testosterone? Get out of here, you dumbass.
>>7842014
Different chemicals in your brain are released when you fap vs when you have sex with a woman
>>7842022
Pfft, fucking retard
>>7842022
Can you name these chemicals?
>>7842014
A distinction has to be made between the physical urge and the mental urge. In all likelihood if you masturbate that often it has become nothing more than a mental addiction. If your brain is in addict-mode then of course the urge to continue would not subside.
Like a fat person who never feels full, you would continue well past the point that a normal human would feel satisfied. I wouldn't rule out the high-testosterone possibility though.
I should keep in mind that the user base of this site is predominantly young men and teenagers, who will always have a high capacity for blowing loads without significant negative effect.
>>7842029
nice refutation
>>7842042
everyone here's a math major
>>7841933
You make this thread every week
Nobody gives a fuck what you do with your little pecker
>>7841933
Anything done "excessively" is bad. Duuuh...
>>7841992
>>7841998
Stop focusing on testosterone. It's more about dopamine.
There's a shitload of related links on YBOP site:
http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-dopamine-behavior
http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-dopamine-and-addiction
http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-dopamine-receptors
etc etc
>>7842836
But none of the scientific papers/links state a causal link between jerking off and possible negative effects.
>>7842042
Leave you fucking cuck.
These "issues" are just a ruse for women to control your cock. Masturbation and castration are the only way to free self from the negative effects of sexuality such as needing a woman in your life.
Git gud or go get married to a leech that will slowly drive you insane.
>>7843539
it is a really hard subject to study because it is extremity difficult to find non faping people.
test it on yourself. don't fap for a month and keep a log about your psychological stat. then go back to your regular amount and keep a log of that as well. after that look at the logs and you will know more about the subject then 85% of all people on earth.
>>7843577
I just cannot imagine the people I look up to fapping.