SpaceX

>>7789255
>SpaceX will make another attempt to land the first stage of their Falcon 9 rocket, this time on a floating drone ship in the ocean.


1. Checked

2. Landing the first stage on a drone ship in the ocean, successfully, would be a monumental step forward in the quest for cheap spaceflight.

>also akin to landing a brick on a floating sponge

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last two launches with climate related payloads failed

How long before they do anything with a human mission?

>>7789415
Supposed to happen sometime this year, if all goes well. They're supposed to be ready for ISS crew rotations next year.

>>7789255
So, figure if they land this one, they'll try it for another orbital launch, or maybe use it for flight testing in New Mexico?

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>>7789424
>Supposed to happen sometime this year, if all goes well. They're supposed to be ready for ISS crew rotations next year.

Nice.

They test fired the last rocket recently. Testing it for reusability.

Where can I find a live stream?

>>7789667
I wonder how long it will last from take off to landing.

Whats the point of landing on a barge?

>>7789688
Safety or some shit

>>7789337
intentional sabotage?

>>7789688
Reuse.

It's meant for high-velocity missions, such as FH launches. The core of the FH would be scheduled to land on the barges while the other stage rockets would land on land.

If this goes well, SpaceX is just gonna swallow the whole launch market altogether.
Nothing ULA or ESA can do. They've been laughing at SpaceX for years, and now they find themselves in a situation where SpaceX is gonna start piling up first stage like crazy, while they throw theirs until at least 2020.

>>7789780
Still have to build second stages

>>7789802
Sure, but that's basically 2 tanks and an engine vs 4 tanks and 10 engines.

>>7789780
SpaceX will "only" swallow the launch market for cheap/ low risk sattelites withtheir low prices.

When it comes to national security or a billion dollar satelite the most important factor is the launch record which spacex fucked up a little since their rocket blew up in summer.

>>7789857
You'd think that, then you realize, they're gonna be much more able to launch things faster.
Want a launch next year? Sure, no problem.

>>7789688
The rocket's coming down in the sea.

>>7789865
it usually takes years to plan, design and assemble a sattelite so that is hardly an advantage.

As for national security launches, i think the contractors are required to have rockets on hold for them anyway.

>>7789894
Let's put it another way.
Launch contracts are usually settled years in advance. Because the queue is that long.
Now you can get an earlier launch if you put the extra $. The highest bidder gets the earlier one. Meanwhile, it only costs SpaceX a second stage anyhow.
Reliability is still much unknown at this time. I'd say, 1 failure in 10 or so launches isn't that bad. Ariane 5 failed its first 2 launches and ULA had some fails back in Delta II days.
I don't expect Ariane 6 and Vulcan to have a better record in their first 10 launches.

>>7789901
or you can just book the flight for your billion dollar sattelite years in advance of assembly on a rocket with a better launch record, beacause there is barely any disadvantage in having to book earlier.

>>7789943
>there is barely any disadvantage in having to book earlier.
That is total bullshit. The reason new satellites take years to build is that they're full of cutting-edge new technology, which nobody is experienced with. That makes the build schedule not simply long, but unpredictable.

If they have to book a flight years in advance for a spacecraft with an unpredictable construction schedule, this causes all sorts of problems, commonly resulting in spacecraft being shipped to the pad incomplete to be worked on to the last minute, which causes delays, cost overruns, staff burn-out, and flaws in the launched spacecraft.

For similar reasons, high launch cost is a major issue, especially when you need to order launches far in advance.

Building two of a fancy new satellite doesn't really cost a lot more than building one (although some profiteering scum contractors will try and charge as if they cost the same). Furthermore, it gives you some security against damage-causing accidents before launch: when you build multiples. Launch reliability is only super-important for expensive, long-lead-time launches.

>>7789688
If they can do it, it means the landing pad can be just about anywhere they want in the world. So it can always come down in a good weather area.

>>7789857
It will get to the point they will be launching something once or twice a month maybe more.

>>7790384
That's not really how it works, particularly compared to flyback.

Reversing course and returning to the launch site means returning to land at a place where the weather was good enough to launch just minutes ago. So barge landing compared to flyback isn't going to improve weather conditions for landing.

What the barge allows is not freedom to choose the place you land for ideal conditions, but the ability to put a landing surface near the spot where the depleted stage will naturally fall to, minimizing the propellant required to reach it.

The flyback maneuver is costly. Saving propellant for reversing the course of the rocket significantly reduces the performance of the launch vehicle.

A downrange barge landing is much less costly. The stage more or less falls directly to the barge, with minimal redirection.

This will be especially important for recovering the center stage of the Falcon Heavy, which is essentially a three-stage launch vehicle. The side boosters can deplete early, compared to the normal Falcon 9 first stage, and fly the short distance back to land, but then the center stage will still be nearly full of fuel, going much farther downrange and to a much higher horizontal speed than a regular first stage. The performance penalty for flyback would be far more severe than it is for the side boosters or on single-stick Falcon 9.

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i am hyyyyyyyyyyyyyype

>>7790449
>What the barge allows is not freedom to choose the place you land for ideal conditions,

That is exactly what I was meaning. It is up and back before the weather ever changes and can do so anywhere in the world's oceans if needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkz_lclGXNg

>2 hour and 34 mins left!

>>7790605
I'll be watching the other feed. I expect they'll put on more of a show in the "hosted webcast".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdKRJzl6y0

>>7789943
Why does your payload cost billions of dollars in the first place?
Most of them are basically an antenna, a computer, small thrusters and propellant tanks. Maybe some fancy optical piece for observations.
See, because you don't plan on launching a bunch of them, or having a spare ready to launch in case n°1 fails, you make damn sure it will operate for at least a decade.
It's the wash machine economics. Back in the days, a wash machine was bloody expensive, but it lasted 2 decades. Now they're cheap but last 5 years.

>>7790615
>not having both up at once

>>7790616
>Why does your payload cost billions of dollars in the first place?

It depends on the satellite. Some are really cheap and some are over 2 billion. Or, you can cob something cheap and small together in your garage and pay $4k to $12k per kg to have it launched by Interorbital Services on one of their Neptune rockets.

What's up nerds? /sp/ here.
SpaceX launches are the only times I visit /sci/

Who /hyperloop/ here?

>>7790643
>pay $4k to $12k per kg to have it launched by Interorbital Services on one of their Neptune rockets.
That is by far the safest strategy to protect your payload, since you are guaranteed it will never launch.

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>>7789688
"atonomous drone ship"

>>7790756
/sp/ you say? If you are a gambling man, you can try your luck at Landing Barge Bingo.

http://asds.dansdoorway.com

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Friendly reminder that Elon Musk was bald.

>>7790829
Wow, he has really moved up in the world.

What's piglike doing these days?

>>7790805
>one year free L2 membership for the winner
utter tears at you mugs. I make $500 on a slow day via sports betting. I'm so shrewd I have a 3% ROI in asia. I don't have time to play bingo with you penny punting slugs. Sending pellets your way lmao.

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wow is there ANYTHING this guy cant do?

>>7790829
>get mocked for being bald
>also get mocked for getting hair plugs

wtf is he supposed to do then

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>>7790856
Get a haircut that works with the baldness.

Fucking fog is gonna ruin the whole thing.

HELLO MARK_TAIWAN

So which stream is better, the hosted or non hosted one?

is nasa tv covering this?

>>7790867
Won't the fog make everything look super cool (assuming the launch doesn't scrub) ?

haha, everyone is outside watching this time.

Are both streams way out of sync for you guys too?

Captain America came!

What the fuck is Captain America doing there?

>>7790894
NO, it will make everything look like fog.

>>7790902
He heard about the high levels of freedom in the area.

I dont like the sound of this 'minor issue'

Is this how our parents felt during Apollo?
It is kind of underwhelming.

>this fucking crazy thick fog

It's go lads

>>7790912
all go on terminal count

NASA stream is actually more exciting

I take it they're going for a polar orbit, right?

>>7790913
This isn't such a big deal. This is just a satellite launch. It's kind of neat that they're making a landing attempt for reuse, but this isn't even their latest model of rocket, so it's not really something they'd want to reuse anymore. The recovery attempt is just a technology test.

audio got back in sync again

we're good

>>7790921
will it eventually be up on youtube?

I'd put money on it not actually launching today.

So the guy on the hosted webcast just said this was the last time they do the gonogo thing on the webcast can someone tell me why?

CANT SEE SHIT

The hosts on these SpaceX webcasts piss me off. They purposely cherry pick the select few good looking/non-autistic rocket scientists and put them in front of the camera. I work at a SpaceX competitor and 99% of this industry is ugly/autistic as fuck.

>>7790913
First succesfull attempt of stage 1 landing was bit like that.. I nearly "turned blue" as i watched it touching down. As it touched down i was "breathing again".

They have all these systems they need to check for "go" status.
Why the fuck are they using voice to confirm everything is go?
Can't they just put up a server and sync with each other via that?
You could even put more information than just go/no-go for each system.

>>7790927
no

>>7790931
check the no-commentary stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkz_lclGXNg

goddamn it is foggy as fuck

>>7790931
i see your moms vibrator fine in that fog

>>7790933
this

>>7790929
That was clumsy. I think he means it was the last such poll for the old Falcon 9 1.1, as opposed to the new Falcon 9 1.1 FT model (with densified propellant, which has a different procedure leading up to launch).

>>7790933
>I work at a SpaceX competitor

EAT SHIT FAGGOT

>>7790928
I'll bet you 5 spacebux they light that candle today

>>7790929
>So the guy on the hosted webcast just said this was the last time they do the gonogo thing on the webcast can someone tell me why?
This is the last Falcon 9 V1.1
All the rest will be Falcon 9 Full Thrust, FT, or per spacex internal use - just falcon 9. FT versions use supercooled lox and cooled RP-1, and the readiness poll is conducted ~38 minutes before launch - just before prop loading. That is before the webcast starts, so you won't hear it online.

>>7790935
I think they want to recreate old apollo missions a bit.

Same thing with lector countdown, no real need for that.

>>7790937
so much better

OH MY GOD 5 MIN

>>7790935
1. It's cool.

2. Better to hear from the guy in charge that everything is go rather than some computer program. Adds in some responsibility on the other end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdKRJzl6y0
https://youtu.be/vkz_lclGXNg

5 Minutes!!!!

>>7790933
...so?
absolutely every single industry ever does this
why are you salty

wtf does "strongback" mean?

>>7790944
( the landed Falcon 9 from last time was a FT version as well by the way, with some improvements compared to this version, so this version might crash anyway during landing)

>>7790944
>>7790941
Thanks anons

>>7790953
it's the tower that supports the rocket

>>7790953
It's just the name for the towers either side of the rocket, holds the rocket and is what all the pipes climb up.

heavy breathing. 3 minutes

IT HAS RETRACTED

5$ on failure to land.

>>7790935
Well it makes everything sound more impressive for public engagement purposes, plus it is another way to keep a man in the loop for the launch. It allows an actual person to use their discretion rather than leaving it up to cold, lifeless algorithms .

Holly shit, that barge is as stable as my mental health

>FTS ARMED
A BOMB!

>>7790960
10 bucks says it succeeds

I hate this guy's voice. It's the cause of the failure months ago!

do they have a camera or drone on the boat?
or is this going to be like the last attempt where we had to wait for musk to tweet a fucking vine of it

No way it will land.

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We get it. You vape.

>>7790962
That's good news anon.

>>7790970
>when you gotta launch but you not done with your bud

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Stream stopped working for me.

>>7790970
falcon getting high and shit.

OH GOD IM DYING !!

10 SECONDS

Well at least, if it explodes, we won't see it.

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>Tune in at 30 seconds left

Talk about good timing.

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LIFT OFF BOIS

CANT SEE SHIT

dat watervapor

just werks.

Dragon Manned Capsule can hold 7 people. Musk should get Americans excited for manned space flight again, by holding a lottery. One dollar tickets and you are entered into a drawing to be a passenger on the first manned Dragon flight. Provided you are healthy enough to survive the flight. He could raise enough to pay for the winner into orbit and then some. While also getting a huge amount of free attention in the media.

Who's the qt?

nominal nominal nominal nominal nominal nominal nominal

Cool

these 2 hipsters won't shut up

>>7790992
He'd have better luck hiding golden tickets inside chocolate bars desu

goddamn quit flipping around all the cameras like that

>>7790998
protip
watch the other stream

>amazing shot of rocket lifting off, making all the fog light up beautifully
>HMM LADS LET'S SWITCH TO FUCKING BLACK-AND-WHITE PHONE-CAMERA TIER CHASE CAM

fucking spacex

>>7790998
There's a link to a commentary-free stream here in the thread.

I wonder if these are just media pr people or if they know anything about all this.

How long will it take to land?

Yuropoor here.
Does the youtube stream work?
All I'm getting is some gay ass hipster music.

>>7789857
The competition for national security launches also have had failed launches.

>>7790999
>>7791000

checked

>>7791000
i know, it terrifies me

Getting hype for first stage landing

>>7791004
3 more minutes.

3 mins ETA on drone ship landing

>>7791005
Here's the non-reddit stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkz_lclGXNg

>the cheering that you see

Sure honey whatever you say

YES live ship camera!

>>7791015
keked

looks wobbly

holy shit the swells on that barge

>I-it's okay if we fail

drone ship is moving a whole damn lot.

They either need to get something bigger and more stable, or just go to dry land landings.

>>7791021
It seems like they should have made it like 10x the size it is.

Stop fucking talking bitches

lol barge cam frozen

elon musk needs to pony up for a better internet connection to his drone ship

It froze, yay

"theres no wifi"

HURR DURR

>>7791026
>something bigger
It's already the size of a football field

>or just go to dry land landings.
That's the plan, but that means they need more fuel to make a u-turn.

>>7791031
Drone ship confirmed kill

video feed is ded

rip

Video froze, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

VIDEO FROZE

WHAT THE FUCK

>>7791029
dumbass

drone ship is ded

Thinks the landing failed, no telemetry from this page http://www.flightclub.io/live.php?code=JSN3

>>7791032
4g when

>404, droneship not found

>not one black guy on stream
>current year

>>7791031
Direct hit. I repeat direct hit.

>>7791031
oh god it's going to unfreeze with either a massive wreck or a landed rocket

or maybe the camera wont come back on because it's a fucking fireball right now

it's toast

The rocket landed on the camera

It's ogre.

yay, they fucked the steam up on the best part.

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wtf get your shit together JRTI

CRASHED
R
A
S
H
E
D

oh shit...

LOSS OF SIGNAL

First stage confirmed kill

>loss of signal

rip

The rocket got cucked. I repeat, it got cucked.

>spacex in charge of barges
B L U N D E R

>>7791053
they cut it off because it was ogre

>That little mouse cursor in the stream

NOOOOOOOOO

First stage didn't slow down and just dropped and killed the barge

This fucking ayy lmao music what the fuck.

FUUUUUUUUUCK

Don't they have helos out there? I think they'd know pretty quickly what happened to it on account of needing to get in and get it fastened

probably blew up

>We can launch and land a rocket but we can't get a fucking video camera to work.

do they have any other video of the barge? like those helicopters from a distance? or will this be an entirely no-video flight because of shitty wifi?

What is this going on right now, this music. no.

SHUT IT DOWN

$20 it dipped in the ocean

Do you guys not realize the bandwidth required for a video feed? Relax.

Well at least, the mission seems to be going well.

>>7791076
its a "GAME OVER" song

>>7791064
hope to see it in /b/ gore thread.

Digging the beats

> Just read the instructions
Forgot to read the page that said slow down before hitting barge.

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BOOM

Probably didn't want to announce that it exploded on the air

>>7791074
For the next launch Elon will use cameras that are made in-house to have a tighter grip on the quality control

>"second burn is later than predictions"
hmmmm

>>7791076
It's the sound of Aliens trying to read our minds.

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NASA TV stream glitching up

ayys are onto us

>>7791079
It hit the AT&T bandwidth cap.

>mouse cursor in the stream

>>7791078
Not taking it.
Any tweets coming out of space x?

>>7791087
they didnt have to show any live video of this at all. They wanted to.

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>>7791090

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Posting in KSP thread.

Who XCOM here?

>>7791089
>Standing by for status
That stands for "we fucked up"

>>7791096
Right here fampai >>7791089

>>7791085
hello reddit

>tfw space cylinder isn't coming home

is stage 1 kill?

>Spacex incharge of barge technology

They need one of those platforms the oil well guys uses to keep things perfectly level.

>>7791096
>>7791089

>>7791054
who is this guy in the middle?

They would be cheering by now, they know exactly what's going on. It crashed again

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>mfw Stage 1 hit the mission control

https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

I always believed I'm a person with a bad luck. I didn't watch the falcon 9 landing and that's why it succeeded,

>>7791107
That's what they have.

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It's all OGRE now

>>7791103
Thanks

>>7791106
They are quickly putting another rocket in landing place to then turn the camera on.

>>7791094
That's why they are going to launch those Internet satellites with Google, to make better streaming of launches possible

LE MILLION DOLLAR FIREWORK

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>>7791100
Still in one piece?
Commander, I recommend we get a strike team to the crash site immediately.

How much does stage 1 cost and how much does fuel?

>>7791114
I can't find a photo of what I mean, but that barge didn't look like one. these are really awesome machines

" The 2nd stage engine has cut off #Jason3 is now coasting in an intermediate orbit until 2nd stage re-start in ~46min "

>trying to land rocket on barge
>not building custom spacex mother base
baka desu senpai

>>7791113
No, I'm pretty sure I'm the one with the bad luck. I watched the explosion in June, too.

>>7791122
ask mr.musk

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THIS MUSIC FUCKING SUCKS

What the fuck is this music?

>>7791122
I think fuel is about $200,000, not sure about just the stage 1 though.

music really starting to hot up

>>7791129
Where is my DEATH GRIPS

>>7791107
https://i.imgur.com/Y57Bamb.gifv

>>7791134
why is fuel so expensive?

>>7791122
about $50M-60M for a complete rocket (both stage 1 & 2)
about $200K for fuel.

This muzak is straight up late night SMS chat TV program tier

>>7791140
thanks obama

>>7791140
Dead dinosaurs are expensive anon.

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Elon right now

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>launched in fog
>45m to sat deployment
>no word on 1st stage
>ayy music
JUST

>>7791140
Because shekels

>>7791140
No no, on the contrary. The fuel is cheap >>7791141

>>7791140
don't want 3rd world countries going to space

CAN'T TUSK THE MUSK

where is this going to land?

>>7791122
From what I've heard, incremental cost of a first stage is about $20 million, and the fuel is around $30,000.

However, aside from the incremental cost of building the stage, there is also the facility cost and overhead involved in having a certain amount of manufacturing capacity, and the limits and difficulties of expanding.

By reusing the stages, they can do more launches without building a bigger factory and training more people, which takes time.

By doing more launches, they can make more use of launchpad facilities, and have reasons to streamline launch operations.

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>15 white dudes in lauch control
>1 token woman

they did say there was a low probability of success for the landing though

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so what the fuck happened to stage 1?

>>7791140
Elon should synergize, and put some tesla engines up in this bitch

WHY THE FUCK AREN'T THERE ANY UPDATES ON STAGE ONE

Fuel is cheap. That's about the same price it costs to fuel a 747.

>>7791164
>>7791162
It's dead bro

>>7791159
and she kept fucking up on the radio too lol

>>7791157
On water after tipping over

maybe engine exhaust just damaged antenna?

>>7791157
anyone know?

Do rockets pollute a lot?

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>>7791138
That isn't what I was thinking of, I found it though.

>>7791114
>>7791123

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Are these normies or spacex people?

>one landing leg broke

>>7791163
Too late. Top Gear confirmed Tesla engines bullshit lies

>>7791159

Why the fuck would anyone care about "diversity" when it comes to important shit like this. I'm sure they have just the right people.

PARTIAL SUCCESS

>>7791159
Got to hire competence when launching millions of dollars and shitty stressful work conditions.

BROKEN LANDING LEG. FIRST STAGE KEKED.

HARD LANDING

Confirmed, booster slammed into the barge, broke a leg and fell over.

>implying the barge video wasn't delayed so it could be cut off in case of failure.

This was no coincidence.

>>7791162
It hit too hard, probably didn't blow up but it didn't work well either.

>LEG BROKE AGAIN

AYYY

>>7791176
Some are normies, others are employees

see you guys in 30 min

a leg broke as it was landing

>not standing upright
So.. its still standing?

>>7791161
new tweet! hard landing and a broken landing leg.

>>7791175
Thats awesome. Something like that might be a better bet if it could take the weight

>>7791175
Good luck building one that can support the size and weight of a rocket stage.

>>7791176
Both

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look at me i'm going to land that multitonne hollow stick of metal on a barge in the full ocean

>leg broke
They should stop trying to land in shitty weather

>>7791192
We simply do not know.

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Alright /sci/, what's the chance it fucks up?

>>7791201
They should build sturdier legs.

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Gives a whole new meaning to break a leg

>>7791078
man should have taken that bet

>>7791201
They get good data on that type of thing though. Every screw up is a very good learning tool.

>>7791204
It probably needs legs that are a bit springier to allow the sudden upheaval of a wave to not cause so much force on a stiff leg.

>pogo sticks!!

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>>7791206

Did it explode, or will they be able to fix the leg and possibly reuse it?

should try wheels next time

Alright question: what are the chances of a successful landing had they touched down on solid ground in this condition?

Fell on video camera confirmed

>>7791180
>Why the fuck would anyone care about "diversity" when it comes to important shit like this.
Are you kidding? If you don't bow to diversity, you get sued to death and refused government contracts. Most of the job market now is welfare by other means.

You might think, "I'm going to go into business and hire only the people I need." They won't let you. You've got to hire some not-very-useful people to carry your share of the burden.

>>7791187
There is no way it landed hard and didn't blow up

SpaceX uses soft language when things go wrong

Like when CRS-7 exploded they called it an "anomaly" rather than 100% mission failure

>>7791211
Those are expensive lessons.

>>7791214
They're like horses. If it's broke, they just shoot it.

Explosion or just had a little tumble?

>>7791217
It would probably land properly, considering it went well until it hit the fucking sponge.

>>7791217
very good. There was almost no wind.

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>>7791182
>>7791180
exactly

>>7791217
probably not too bad considering they did that exact thing about a month ago

I'm actually starting to like this music

>>7791223
not really. the launches are currently priced assuming they will lose the first stage.

>>7791223
That's fine though. No human loss. This is how we progress. This is amazing.

>>7791227
a little tumble of an soda-can-thick tube filled with pressurized helium, LOx, RP1 and a burning engine at the bottom?
Thats the same thing as an explosion.

>>7791196
Doesn't seem very difficult desu.

>>7791224
Btw we should totally put horses in space at some point

12 foot waves. It was a tuff ask.

oh noes, it's going to antartica.
UN's gonna shoot it down before it crosses past the flat earth border.

>>7791219

I know, I know. I should've but 'should' in the sentence instead. On the other hand, SpaceX is very important to the US government, so it seems, so unless Tumblr & Co gets a shitfit out of it, everything should be all right,

Besides, I saw a pajeet and a brotha with ID's hanging, so they must have their quota or whatever.

>>7791217
I don't have numbers for you but landing on solid ground is much easier, there's no random fluctuations in the landing surface

If you watch the ORB-2 landing, you can see the rocket bounce a little when it lands.

Those legs have to absorb all the force of deceleration, and on a barge, one corner could be lifting upward in a wave, so you have the pressure of the ocean against the leg in addition to the deceleration force.

Absolutely not! Horses are soulless retards

>>7791217
I would say 90%

Did you see how barge was waving? I guess at the time of the landing barge was not level and one of the rockets' legs hit the barge harder than others, too hard.

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>having legs in the first place
Just use a ring and fly into it, and deploy hooks that will catch on to the ring.

>>7791175
>>7791196
It can be done. It just needs to be scaled up. It'd be amazing to see just for that tech alone.

>>7791239
Too expensive to just build it for one landing.

>>7791233
yeah im space jammin atm
>>7791245
>implying this entire broadcast isn't ball propaganda

>>7791254
>requiring the landing to be even more precise than it is now.

>>7791239
agreed, just need some fucking insane hydraulic pressure that can take the force of the landing

>>7791254
Legs give it an option to land in many conditions and spots. Landing in 1 spot perfectly is far harder.

>>7791248
its the difference between landing on a flat surface and landing on an uneven surface there is no "pressure from the ocean"

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>>7791233
It's good music.

>>7791254
it would be going to fast and the arms that would catch the ring would break

I know the important thing is that they finish their mission, but these barge crashes suck

Gonna need some track IDs on this hot IDM.

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>>7791263
Kek

JUST
READ
THE
INSTUCTONS

>>7791254
The goal is to have it land on mars, so they want to be able to land it without any prior infrastructure

>>7791240
yes, i want to see tumblr and PETA loose their fucking minds. shit would be epic

>>7791263
Why do they insist on landing it on a boat actually, and not on solid ground?

>>7791248
>you can see the rocket bounce a little when it lands.
Magnets. They need to use magnets.

>>7791276
Clearly because they are fucking badass.

>>7791271
I think it's just in-house music they commission people to make but damn is it autechy

>>7791221
Isn't that normal procedure in space missions? When Challenger blowed up they said it was a major mulfunction in the broadcast

>>7791276
fuel efficiency

Has it landed? Is it dead?

>>7791276
>so I've told the Falcon 9 R to land on a barge
>he actually did it the absolute madman

>>7791284
"Hard Landing"

>>7791276
A lot more flexibility, a full boostback to launch site would require more fuel, and won't be possible for the future Falcon Heavy center stage.

>>7791276
There's no solid ground within range of where the rocket is coming down.

>>7791240
Watching them try to eat hay in zero G would be hilarious, but the manure problem would be ungodly.

>>7791280
would be rad if there's a full time music division over at spacex lol

>>7791276
The stage can drop where it falls rather than have to manoeuvre it back to land and waste more fuel.

>>7791276
Because that means they need more fuel for the return trip, which means less payload into orbit.

>>7791276
Safer, rocket doesn't need to go over populated areas or buildings of any sort in case it blows up in the way down, or it crashes in an uncontrolled dive

>>7791276
It's traveling East to West, btw.

>>7791291
Maybe we could use the manure as fuel

>>7791274
Uh, there's no rolling surfaces on Mars, just lots of rock strewn ground.

>>7791297
Does everything in orbit go East to West or can do West East if they wanted?

>>7791298
Genius, and I think they also produce methane too.

Do they upload the stream video to youtube or something like that?
It's easy to download the whole thing as mp3 and then just cut the songs.

>>7791240
Aw dude, i'd totally watch horse moon races.

>>7791288
I hard landed in your mom last night but I'm still intact.

>>7791298
>>7791304
Yes, you can make biomethane/biogas from it and high nitrogen fertilizer at the same time in a biodigester.

>>7791306
but muh lossless rotational velocidensity

we stage 2 now

>>7791302
it nearly all goes w to e. This one is going n to s in a polar orbit.

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>Space X to Jason

>>7791258
>>7791260
>>7791264
Fine. The bottom is unstable. But the top isn't.
Build an upside down funnel high enough and fly into it from below.
Catch on to it using hooks. The kind that make a one-way lock.

Dang it is going like 15k mph right now. Love this stuff.

>>7791317

do you know about physics

how high is this thing going?

>>7791302
Last time (ORBCOMM2 launch and 1st stage landing) was West to East. Landed on land because enough fuel/not too heavy payload combo.

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>>7791317
Just land it in a big bowl of this.

They should seriously consider buying an oil rig platform. These things are stable as fuck.

satellite was only 500kg so its possible the stage1 was too heavy from excess prepellant

HOLY SHIT IS THAT STREAM FROM BARGE?

>>7791332
>it bounces off and falls in the ocean anyway

>>7791317
might as well just dive it in the water, it will not break!

>>7791333

here
>>7791138

Ocean landings will always be hugely risky depending on the weather.

they released a landing vid

https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK

>>7791337
Nevermind I was an idiot, it was the second stage camera.

>>7791345
>january 2015
ITS 2016

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What is this? 2nd stage cam?

>>7791345
>https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
that was from 1st attempt a billion years ago.

>>7791345
thats a year old you massive faggot

>>7791332
They should cover the landing site in the ocean with chemicals that transform the water into jelly and then let the rocket land in that and then tow the jelly to land

>>7791341
Don't you have to then deal with seawater contamination of the engines?

>>7791347
oh fug sry bro I just had weed to calm myself

>tfw no more based SpaceX pause music

>>7791348
yeah.

>>7791345
>https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK

Fucking hell, the absolute madmen.

Its hard to tell how the barge was pitched at that point or if the rocket came down at a shit angle