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University Education in Different Countries 2015-12-30 19:19:57 Post No. 7752800
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Would you say that education in the US at the university level is worse or better than in countries like France, Germany, or the UK?
Assuming you are at a top public school like Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Texas, etc. what is better or worse?
For example, engineers in France take a lot more math than engineers in the US. Also medicine is an undergraduate degree in UK which seems not to have the dreaded O-chem?
If you are working with people educated in other countries do you feel US students are better or worse prepared?
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Keep in mind that this thread is inherently biased
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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It depends man. Theres two ukrainian guys in my physics department who went to some university in kyiv. Crushing the average, by far the most brilliant guys I know, and as far as I know ukraine isn't really known for their university program.
I'd say on average though (talking about physics only because I don't know any other fields), most people who went to an american university for an undergrad tend to do worse at the grad level. As far as I know its probably because american universities push a lot more general education classes for stem majors than european universities.
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Swiss Poly >= German Elite Unis > US Elite Unis > Chinese Elite Unis > Russian Elite Unis > French Elite Unis > German > Swiss > US > French
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>>7753225
>German Elite Unis
Great meme bro. Sure some unis in Germany are better than others, but we are far away from having any elites. Elitism has been systematically destroyed for political reasons. Our elite people leave the country as soon as they can.
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>>7753225
No.
US Elite Unis > UK Elite Unis >>> French Elite Uni = Swiss Poly >> US = UK >>>>>>>>>>>>...> Rest.
I'm from any of those countries, but that's the objective truth.
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>>7754385
He's obviously a German subject to >>7752805.
I'm a German, but I know German universities are a joke. The "engineering" degrees are more like trade based technologist programmes while the science and math is artificially difficult while not allowing you to advance as quickly as in the US where you can easily take graduate courses in undergrad if you're good. The subjects are also just offered in better manners over all.
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>>7752818
It's because it's easier for an American to get accepted than an international student to their own grad programmes, the latter generally speaking are some of the brightest the world has to offer while many Americans in grad-school didn't have to compete against literal billions to be there.
I'd wager the average physics student graduating in Kiev will be worse than the average graduating from an American state university.
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>>7754385
Well, TU9 is considered as the hardest majors here. TU Aachen, TU Darmstadt, TU Karlsruhe,...
All well known in industry and internationally.
Während Elite hier nicht wie es in den Uk und USA mit den Zulassungsvoraussetzungen samt finanzielle Kompensation zusammenhängt, sind diese dochd as Vorzeigebeispiel der deutschen Qualitätslehre und können per se als Elite bezeichnet werden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TU9
Do not think you will complete a MINT/STEM degree in a "normal" time though.
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>>7754410
hardest universities with the hardest majors in it*
It's
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>>7754410
considered as the hardest universities with the hardest majors in it*
Do not think you will accomplish a degree in the normal period of time though. It's as hard as Engineering can get here in germany.
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