Anyone here who knows what the german "Informatik"

>>7715401
Information technology.

I wonder if the shitty German university system will ever escape it's shitty industrial era tier mindset and catch up to Western universities.

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>>7715401

>>7715417
Loled

>>7715401
>Eurostan Caliphate
Informatics = American CS
CS = American CpE
>Oz Nanny State
CS = American CpE
CpE = American CS

À l'ère de l'informatique, il est difficile de communiquer sans ordinateur.

Informatik = Computer Engineering / Science

>>7715417
this. some universities offer only 14 CP in math total. Instead there are courses where you have to learn about "quality management" and the "Waterfall model"

>>7715439
>after reading about information, it's difficult to communicate without ordinary something
How close was I? I have never taken a French class.

>>7717419
Im not french, but you are off. Try thinking about l'ordinateur as a computer instead. Should fall into place then.

>>7715401
Some universities have Computerwissenschaften afaik

>>7715401
It has no equivalent. American education a overhyped shit. Just watch the MIT lectures, fucking incredible retard festival.

>>7715401
>comuter science
>commuter science

Of course we got different branches of Informatik.
Wirtschaftsinformatik, Technische Informatik, Angewandte Informatik, Software Systeme, Medieninformatik, Informatik-Ingenieurswesen, ... and a lot more.
Computer programming = Trade known as Fachinformatiker Anwendungsentwicklung

https://www.tuhh.de/tuhh/studium/studienangebot/bachelorstudiengaenge/informatik-ingenieurwesen.html

>>7715417
Like, everyone wants to do Engineering or math. Some people like to work with IT.

>>7716647
This as well.

>>7717395
Some. Not all. And to be honest, the Quality Managemet and Software Engineering classes aren't as bad as they sound. It's nice to get a grasp about MVC, Programming architecture, patterns and what's in the industry used.

>want a jawb
>is required to know what's used in the industry
>doesn't have a clue

It's good to know some real-world shit instead of blank theory. Math classes are important but those "soft" classes/moduls as well.

>>7717489
This as well.

>>7717521
>It has no equivalent. American education a overhyped shit. Just watch the MIT lectures, fucking incredible retard festival.
This.
Also also 50-60% of Informatik students drop out of because it's to fucking hard. US equivalent is much more practical oriented.

http://www.handelsblatt.com/archiv/abbrecherquote-von-rund-50-prozent-d21-studie-haeufiger-studienabbruch-bei-informatik/2041784.html

>>7717709
Mit dem Unterschied, dass man die "50%" nicht als jene Personen kennezeichnen kann, dass sie es zu schwer hatten. Manche gehen auch aus anderen Gründen aus dem Studium wieder heraus und immatrikulieren sich dank des niedrigen oder fast keine NC und betreiben ein Scheinstudium. Gibt es alles.

>>7717717
gefunden hatten*.
Bin sowieso ein Freund, der mehr FH's gutfindet für die Informatik, sofern man nichts mit Wissenschaft und Forschung am Hut haben will. :^) Die meisten wollen eh in die Industrie.

>>7717704
>Like, everyone wants to do Engineering or math. Some people like to work with IT.

>>>/g/tfo

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>>7717764
>implying german Informatik doesn't contain as much math like a math degree in the U.S.

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>>7717768

says the turk

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>>7717771
https://www.tuhh.de/t3resources/tuhh/download/studium/pruefungsamt/po/Plaene_ab_WS15_16/E/20150422_Studienplan_Bachelor_CSBS_KohorteWiSe2015.pdf

Und nun Schluss mit dem Schwanzvergleich.

>>7717709
In my university there used to be Informatics where roughly half either dropped out or got a job during the second/third year and just stopped going. Informatics was in the maths department so it could be considered computer science. The Western equivalent of computer engineers came from the physics department. The people who wanted a very practical education went to IT (that literally was the name of the curricula).

>>7715401
It's understandable if you just have Informatik (pretending I didn't see >>7717704)
, because all our shit overlaps. (not American anon but anglo)
As much as I otherwise like my uni, the CS course is a mess. There's some CE shit, some SE shit (>>7717395 ) , which I doubt any of us remembered a year later, whereas someone unfortunate enough to be doing full SE would at least be given reasons to keep remembering that stuff. Other modules, albeit useful (eg databases), are IT, and only a precious couple are CS.

>>7715439
>>7717419
Your sentence was proper French, bien joué, l'ami.

>>7717768
Bist du geistig behindert? Die Mathekurse für Informatiker sind absolut lächerlich.

>>7717709
>Also also 50-60% of Informatik students drop out of because it's to fucking hard
No, they drop out because they weren't ever qualified to go to university in the first place.