/eng/ - Engineering General

>>7635084
Do what you find most interesting.

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>>7635093
>jus b urself lol

>>7635084
>has family job contacts
>doesnt take the opportunity
Youre a fucking idiot.

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>considering becoming a civil engineering pleb

you are beyond saving OP

>>7635860
>>7635824
W-which do I pick then?

Civil engineers aren't even engineers. They are just architects who thing they know physics. Go mechanical if you want to not waste 5 years of your life memorizing how to build shit.

Do electrical if you want to become a wizard, petroleum if you have no decency and want to be rich.

>>7635978
>>7636000
Now I'm even more undecided. Fuck.

>>7635868
>>7636176

Mechanical, Electrical, and Chemical are the holy trinity of engineering. You literally can't go wrong picking one of those 3.

Computer science of computer engineering?

Aerospace
jk

>>7636176
You already said
>mechanical seems a lot more fun and interesting
so why would you not go for it? You'll be coming out with a degree you can easily get a job with anyway.

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>>7635084

>not going Chemical

you should just go straight to liberal arts if you are such a scrub

>>7637124
>implying chemical engineering isn't just mechanical engineering sullied with inferior chemistry

>>7635978
>teenage edgelord detected

>>7635084
seriously OP find out what civil/mechanical engs do in their professions (e.g. CEs usually go to construction, MEs usually go to maintenance, but both have design paths that are usually less paid) and see which one you think you'll enjoy more. It's not about the prestige or being an elitist at uni, it's about you liking what you'll be doing for the next 40-50years. The tards here who think they know shit coz muh Mech/Elec/Chem masterrace are idiots who probably are your age pretending to know shit in the real world.

Do both.

>>7636181
/thread

Environmental
jk

>>7635084
Electrical is the way of the future. Mech's these days are glorified CAD draftsmen. Ask me how I know.
::Spoiler:: mech. E major

>>7635084
electrical

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>>7635084
What is /sci/'s opinion on ocean engineering?
or naval architecture

Sup /sci/, gonna be graduating at 24 or 25ish hopefully with Computer Engineering with nothing but debt so far. I'll barely be able to afford nice things this entire time. Anybody have any experience gaining assets that can generate income or at least get the ball rolling so I'm not a flat broke joke when it's time for my life to begin again?

>>7635084
I know and work with many mechanical engineers.
I don't know a single one who isn't either a beta nerd using intelligence as his dick or a cut throat wanker of a human being who everyone hates, all are wealthy.
Lots of work in civil, less nerdy, still wealthy.
Think about this shit yourself, don't make such decisions based off 4chan

>>7637787
>This guy
Make a choice based on yourself. Jerking your dick at uni means nothing compared to enjoying the rest of your life.
Protip: you tend to enjoy doing things you are good at

>>7636181
What about industrial?

>>7638865
just do business

Protip:

If you somewhat know what you're doing. Don't offer to help too often, but don't not help at all either. I didn't want to be a dick, and bec. I'm one of the only sociable perople with a good GPA I get pestered all the time to 'help' (read do peoples work for them). Shits annoying tbqh

>>7638858
I would say the other way around - you tend to do well at the things you enjoy. Most important thing is getting a job that you enjoy, otherwise you're in for 40+ years of shit

It's naval engineering a good career path?

>>7639413
Only if you really love bellybuttons

>>7637124
>Atkins physical chemistry

>>7639413
no

>>7639413
no way there is someone else here that actually is interested in marine engineering

where are you bruh? are you in undergrad?

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How can anyone justify going into any engineering BUT civil? The numbers don't lie.

Chemical engineering is going the way of the life sciences. Manufacturing in the United States is dying and so is Pharma.

Try and prove me wrong.

t. Civil engineer ;)

>>7640866
because an undergrad major means very little in the long run.

>>7640866
>Manufacturing in the United States is dying
ur mum is dying, fuccboi. Dying from gagging on my weiner

>implying mechEs cant do basically EVERYTHING a civE can do

please tell me you are <20

>>7640913
Mechanical engineers are a jack of all trades master of none.

>>7640866
because despite current job growth it's still the most boring job an engineer could possibly have

>>7641067
they are masters of everything actually

source:am meche

42 replies and not one mention of that booty. Engineers really are fags.

>>7641151
woah i didnt even notice the OP pic until you pointed it out

If you're planning on majoring in civil, you might as well go into the humanities instead

>>7640866
Construction is boring as fuck. its literally the same shit. every. single. time.
>step 1
move the dirt
>step 2
steel and concrete
>step 3
repeat step 2 till it doesn't fall down

>>7636176
Biomedical

>>7641218
Construction is literally creating space for civilization like in a fucking video game. Being a part of that process seems pretty rewarding.

>>7635084
Oh, now I understand. You posted that webm so you wouldn't have to say pic unrelated.

>>7641114
MechE here. You're fucking delusional if you think that.

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>>7641818
Here's more

>>7641832
terrible

Is there a way to bolster my interest in my major.

As a fourth year student in EE I want to die and nothing is fun anymore.

any tips on antifrost measures? im cooling air from 1500C to -150C in 0.01s and its going to frost up the whole engine.

im looking for maybe an unconventional management system for frost.

>>7638865
Industrial is always high on demand. But there's a lot of competition.

>>7640913
Pretty much everything except soil mechanics. Well... kind of.

ME for a bunch of buff guys and one or two girls, versatility
EE for no girls, wizardry, and a bunch of autists
CompE for normal looking people, time management skills, and qt3.14's
BME for girls everywhere and grad school

i'm a EE student starting my sophomore year and i was told that starting my autocad license now would benefit me alot. i'm broke though so i can't afford the classes right now is there anything online i can use to learn?

>>7641876

Start doing shit you want to do instead of what you have to do. If you could do anything as an electrical engineer what would you want to do? Make that a side-project to incentivize learning.

>>7641939
just make a student account and download any autodesk software you want for free
there are literally hundreds of websites/forums dedicated to learning CAD (tutorials etc) plus there are built tutorials in the program itself....

just go fucking do it

>>7641911
>CompE
>normal looking people
>girls

Is CompE worth it or is it just a meme degree? Should I just go with EE?

>>7641114
ceng here, thank you for designing my reaction vessels so I don't have to do any work and get paid more :^)

>>7643093
It's a meme, may as well do software/development degree instead. Electrical eng is shit if you don't like it. (Civil is tolerable even if you don't like it).

>>7643482
i dont know i am only a freshman i havent even taken one engineering class yet

Can a physics major become an engineer lads? I can use CAD, I can programme in python, R, C++ and Java and I have taken some design course

UK btw if it makes a difference

>>7643494
Course. Might have to go to graduate school depending on where you aim to work at though, but the physics majors I know who wind up taking engineering classes say that they have a pretty easy time.

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>>7643499
Cheers lad, I'm only in second year now, I'll try get a industrial placement, do some networking and take a few more engineering courses

>>7641903
yea try getting a mechanical engineer to design a hospital in the US

protip: you cant

tell me about nuclear engineering

>>7643558
Nuclear Phys here, I might be able to help somewhat what do you wanna know?

>>7636218
Code monkeys are a dime a dozen these days. Go CompEng.

>>7643565
I've always been interested in nuclear reactors

>>7643574
Would you like to be involved working on them? If that's the case you will probably need an MPhys in Nuclear Physics for the research department, a BEng in Nuclear/Chem/Electrical or BSc in Physics (Need a 1st/High 2:1) this will be more of the maintenance role/Radiation protection.

Many Nuclear engineering degrees are involved in the waste management side, make sure you look into the course modules to see what they cover.

>>7643587
thank you, that was very helpful

>>7643093
>>7643466
>implying
CpE coursework is typically more rigorous than CS math and science wise. If you take a lot of upper division or graduate level CS classes you can do CS jobs or the same with EE. There are CpE jobs though like HPC.

>>7641911
>CompE
>any significant difference from EE

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>>7643908
Are you retarded

>>7640866
>Electric Engineering going down
>literally solar and nuclear are undergoing rapid development
>Internet of Things being left to CE majors, are you serious?
>microprocessors out the wazoo, semiconductors in every industry, all sorts of crazy shit
What's even funnier is EE majors are at like a 30 year low in terms of graduation. We actually output like 10k more EE majors, around 25k/year, in the 80s. There's more ME being graduated, which is kind of ironic because you're so much more limited by it.

>>7643558
It's shit.

>>7640897
Actually in engineering it's the opposite. Graduate degrees don't buy you much more for the cost and arguably limit your opportunities (overqualified). The only reason to pursue any graduate degree is if you have any desire to teach and even then you should end it at a Masters. A Doctorate in Engineering is literally worthless.

For pretty much any field of engineering a BS is all you need. Besides for those who opt to work in industry a few years of industry experience and applied engineering is exponentially more valuable than a masters program at a top tier university.

>>7636181
Feels good to be an environmental engineer. We do mechanical, electrical and chemistry.

I can't believe I'm posting in this thread but

>>7645979
I don't want to piss on your bonfire ...but saying you do Electrical Engineering work is like saying an Electrical Engineer saying he does Chemical work because he's doped some silicon for a diode... It's just misleading to people who have no idea what your talking about.

>>7645979
Not really. Environmental engineers do are a watered down field that finds excuses to impose regulations on the jobs of real engineers.

>>7638828
Glorified civil engineering.

>>7645979
>We do mechanical, electrical and chemistry

And you're shit at every single one of them :)

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>>7645883
>The only reason to pursue any graduate degree is if you have any desire to teach and even then you should end it at a Masters.
Not necessarily. For example, for most Fatigue & Damage Tolerance work, a Master's is practically required. And all of my professor's have PhDs.

>>7645984
What, people say this
> Doping a semiconductor
> "chemical engineering"

Bitch please.

>>7645979
>environmental engineer
Literally the most meme engineering after CS and Mechatronics

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>>7643558

>>7645883
a masters is literally resume fluffer to justify asking for another 20k a year.

>>7645883
>you should end it at a Masters
what fucking professor has just a masters
daily reminder not to take advice from /sci/ or anywhere on 4chan. these people are NEET retards and autists

>>7635084

Practicing aerospace engineer here. Unless you know you want to work as a civil engineer I'd advise mechanical engineering. It's more diverse (in terms of material; not the SJW meaning), it sets you up for just about any engineering graduate discipline, and, most importantly, a wider range of jobs will be open to you.

>>7647060
spot on.

>>7635102
>not caring
>going into engineering
get the fuck out f a m.


>>7635084
>wanting to be a civil engineer
There's literally nothing new in the field since the 70's.

>wanting to be a mechanical engineer
Meh.

Just pick civil and get your daddy's job desu.
You don't seem to care enough.

>>7638828
kinda better than civil. more interesting.
less jobs.

>>7635084
both are lame, train/railroad and mechantronics is the only good engineering

>>7647143
>Fatigue & Damage Tolerance work, a Master's is practically required

Why is that? Does a BEng + industry experience not provide the necessary quals?

I'm guessing the MSc programs teach them more advanced computing and analysis methods, though I'm not aiming for a graduate degree, so I wouldn't know.

can someone help me with this c++ exercise
i have v and c which are both functions of t
and when v>c i need to print off the corresponding v, c and t values

so t starts at 0 and 1 is added each iteration i guess

>>7647652
okay i put an if inside a while and it seems to have worked

>>7647685
Glad we could help

>/sci/ aruging over which engineering major is better
The autism in this aboard is laughable. Right now engineering is heading to a bust cycle. Companies are laying off tens of thousands of EE around the country. The government is preparing to do a major rehaul of the infrastructure so civil engineering is demand. Computer engineering is going to be in demand because of the internet of things.

I'm on a path towards Aerospace Engineering, but hate the study of planes in my major. Are there any AE that can at least lift my hopes and tell me they like their job?

>>7647890
>I'm on a path towards Aerospace Engineering, but hate the study of planes in my major. Are there any AE that can at least lift my hopes and tell me they like their job?
> Are there any AE that can at least lift my hopes
>lift my hopes
>lift

>>7647890
>AE
>hate planes
why do AE

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>tfw thermo test in a couple days
who else /fugacity/ here?

>>7647899
well played, anon.

>>7647907
Just say
>"I want to die."
and it will feel a bit better.

>>7647905
I wanted applied physics and math. I figure that aerospace involved a good amount of this considering everything behind it.

Also the space part of aerospace. I don't care for the aeronautics.

>>7647912
>I don't care for the aeronautics.
Nobody does but that's where you will more than likely work.

>>7635084
"Civil" sounds better with a lisp. I would go that way were I attempting to be a cock lord.

>>7641911
>BME for girls everywhere and grad school
This.

>>7641911
gee m8 i wonder which you are

>>7647929
BME is where its at, if oyu want a engineering degree, pussy, and social life in college.

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>>7637124
>Stewart calculus

>>7647974

ummm

somewhat true

relatively

i suppose i agree

>>7647998
Well you will get pussy. Social life depends on the person.

>>7647998
How hard is BME?

>>7641911
Well CE is similar to EE so no. Both are full with autists.

>>7643482
How to suck dicks

>>7638833
What I'm doing:
> buying foreclosed home in neighborhood that's not actually bad (basically taking advantage of someone's unfortunate misfortune)
> using personal contacts to get a job slightly above average starting
> working on house in spare time (weekends etc) as I enjoy keeping busy as well as working with my hands
> taking advantage of housing market rebound as well as investment in fixing up house
> will sell in 3-5 yrs after loans are almost/entirely paid off
> will make a great down payment on 50-60% of my future family's home

>>7648765
Good idea. Thanks!

>>7643482
if you go to a good school, industry practices, some contract stuff, HR/Management type classes.

>>7643482
systems design, industry standards, practices, and codes/modeling/simulation software,

>>7641876
>As a fourth year student in EE I want to die and nothing is fun anymore.

thats normal. college is taking what you love, and making you do it till your sick of it.

>>7643536
protip: you can. PE is a PE m8.

Fuck, got an exam about Signal Processing in two weeks and it's so fucking hard. Any electrical engineer knows a good book about it?

>>7649519
Only analogical stuff, shit like Fourier transforms, Hilbert transform and convolution

>>7643482
Until you actually experience the full process of engineering a product from beginning to production (which always takes longer than you think), whether it be co-op/intern or full-time, you will not know even half of engineering.

That is what science alone cannot teach you.

>>7647148
you wouldn't believe the stuff I hear everyday. I go to a small D1 school in the south and the first floor of the Engineering is where all of the intro science class are taught.

>>7649471
>protip: you can. PE is a PE m8.

your certainly welcome to try to do analysis and design on an essential facility in illinois with a mechanical PE

>>7649742
>implying a mechanical engineer can't sit a Civil PE exam

>>7649747
im not talking about the civil PE.

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>spend 5 years busting my ass getting mechanical degree
>get 70K for just updating engineering drawings

the money is nice and all but, but it's so god damn boring. I'm expected to spend 2 weeks on a job that I can do in 1 hour

>>7649761
how long have you been doing it? doing menial shit is pretty typical for the first 5 years. you aren't done paying dues once school is over m8.

>>7641911
Can confirm, am BME and there are more qt3.14s than guys

>>7649749
well then youre clearly too stupid to understand what he was even saying.
>ME gets civil PE
that's it m8 clear as day

>>7641911
what is comp sci. am I fucked?

>>7649784

who's this "he" m8? are you following the conversation? you or "him" thought you can do anything including designing a hospital in the US as a mechanical engineer. which you thought that any mechanical engineer who sat through the civil PE can (can one even be still considered a mechanical engineer at this point?" some states have a separate licensing for civil engineers working specifically in structural engineering (SE). illinois is one such state where you must absolutely have it in order to work on structures. california and some other states require it for hospitals or high rise buildings.

>>7643482
calculating the friction of your TA's cock going in your ass at a velocity of 10 cm/s

>>7649761
Does that still get you closer to becoming a CEng (or equivalent)?

>>7638865
>Industrial
>Engineers

Kek tb.h senpai, i hope you enjoy doing charts and other intensely homosexual stuff.

>>7641939
>AutoKEK
I'd recommend a more parametric aproach m9, mainly solid"just"werks.

>>7650067
What's wrong with it?

Become a mechanical engineering major. The job opportunities are plentiful. You can work in so many places because your degree is versatile. EE and CE are very limited in jobs. EE only work in tech, and some home appliances companies. CE is mainly government work in infrastructure. You'll spent the first few years reviewing drawings. Afterward if you're not a fuckwad, you can start designing your own things. But I will choose ME because you can always learn another engineering trade with that degree.

>>7651236
>CE is mainly government work in infrastructure
I don't think its quite limited as you make it sound. Certain civil engineers can get a ticket into other companies if they knew a lot of structural analysis and FEA.

>>7651236
>designing your own things
Yeah..no. Everything in the mechanical world has already been designed, your job will only ever be to repair it.

>>7651732
"Rail travel at high speed is not possible because passengers, unable to
breathe, would die of asphyxia."
-- Dr. Dionysus Lardner, 1793-1859

"What can be more palpably absurd than the prospect held out of
locomotives travelling twice the speed of stagecoaches?"
-- Quarterly Review, 1825

"Railroad Carriages are pulled at the enormous speed of 15 mph by engines
which, in addition to endangering life and limb of passengers, roar and
snort their way through the countryside, setting fire to the crops,
scaring the livestock, and frightening women and children. The Almighty
certainly never intended that people should travel at such breakneck
speed."
-- Martin Van Buren

"I can accept the theory of relativity as little as I can accept the
existence of atoms and other such dogmas."
-- Ernst Mach (1838-1916)

"Physics, as we know it, will be over in six months." -- Max Born, 1928

"X-rays will prove to be a hoax."
-- Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895

"Radio has no future."
-- Lord Kelvin

"Heavier than air flying machines are impossible."
-- Lord Kelvin

"Flight by machines heavier than air is impractical and insignificant, if
not utterly impossible."
-- Simon Newcomb, Director, U.S. Naval Observatory, 1902

"Aerial flight is one of that class of problems with which man will never
be able to cope."
-- Simon Newcomb, 1903

"Yeah..no. Everything in the mechanical world has already been designed, your job will only ever be to repair it." - Anon, 2015

>>7651732
>le harsh reality
Get some ambition man. FWIW, my uncle has a high level administrative position at textron systems and said MEs with bachelors are designing things.

>>7651759

Adding to this, a late professor cited multiple mid-century anachronisms that there would only be a world market for about five computers, processors would only do X much, etc.

Guys help.

I was a fool and got a degree in biology despite not having any interest in medicine. I want to go back to school next year and get a degree in engineering, but I don't know which to go for. Any advice?

>>7651966
that paper

>>7651759
lord kelvin sounds like a fuckwit

>>7651966
Biomedical.

>>7651966
Railroad / train engineering. The least known of the engineering field but the most in-demand field and also the best one.

>>7652093

You think so? I was considering getting something more general like EE or ME which could qualify me biomed or even environmental engineering while still leaving my options open. But maybe I'm just overthinking it. I guess I'm really just nervous to go through college again and wind up jobless.

I'm a sophomore Petroleum Engineer but haven't really gotten interested in the topic in two years.
Seriously considering switching to Geophysics this very week. The other option was mechanical engineering but I don't think I like high level calculus and derivations and stuff.
I never considered a form of geology to be a viable major but looking into it recently it seems about as good as any engineering. It just doesn't have engineering in its name. Plus I like rocks and shit. But I don't know...I don't want to accidentally go into a shit major.

>>7635084
This thread torments me over the fact that none of my devices can open webm's.

>>7652716
>being an iKek

>>7651759
Lord Kelvin is basically /sci/ in a nutshell.

>>7652716
Damn that sucks anon

>>7651759
Other anon BTFO

>>7651966
There must be reasons you want to do engineering in the first place - what specifically interests you about it?

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Why don't more girls choose engineering?

>>7653254
same reason they don't want to be mechanics. its guy shit.

>>7653254
They don't tend to think mechanically, likely because their blood brain barrier doesn't let estrogen through.

Textbooks on engineering mechanics with strength of materials (or mechanics of materials).
Which ones should I read?
1) Den Hartog
2) Timoshenko
3) Gross, Hauger

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>>7653283
mah boy JP Den Hartog all the fucking way.

both of his dover books are GOAT

>>7653283
Hibbeler for babby tier introduction. then read >>7653305 for a more conceptual understanding.

>>7653305
But he uses US customary measurement system in his books (and I live in place where nobody knows it).
>>7653312
Thanks, but I just want to refresh my knowledge (I have studied the subject with soviet books).

>>7653346
>But he uses US customary measurement system in his books

he's a great author, and any annoyance from converting units is well worth putting up with.

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>>7653305
Is that... Picard? Hell yeah, I'll read his books.

should i major in engineering in order to get a job? is majoring in engineering without ambition to create a good idea? i like learning about math and physics but don't really go out and create/fix. if not whats a good major to go in that guarantees a job

>>7647907

I feel the same way about my AC circuits test tomorrow.

>>7645883
Most lecturers have PhDs certainly far more have than do not have.

>>7645979
Don't be silly environmental is a fucking joke

>>7647623
You would be hard pushed to find an undergrad course that goes through the reqs for example transient analysis using FEA, writing your own FEA codes or using ansys /nastran etc for some quite sophisticated things to predict fatigue response and design life

>>7643494
No. Disregard what the other guy said. The Washington accord and the Engineering Council UK says you have to have an accredited undergrad degree to become a chartered engineer. Even physics undergrad+engineering PhD won't cut it.

There are 'engineering' jobs which don't require chartership but if you are gonna stay at that level you may as well just become an accountant monkey at Deloitte-you'll actually earn more eventually.

>>7653811
Possibly. A lot of engineering is just designing.

>>7653811
>is majoring in engineering without ambition to create a good idea?

>he actually WANTS to be a computation grinding cubicle shitter

sure man, those are the jobs most engineers stay away from, so i'm sure you'd be set.

>>7652912
At this point? Job security and marketability. And the possibility of making my bio degree less worthless. I do like science and maths in general though and I don't doubt I'd find something enjoyable with the majority of engineering disciplines.

Aerospace.

>>7641911
Almost
>CEE
you dun goofed
But everything else was spot on

>>7653926

In Texas at least any engineering degree is sufficient.

>>7647847
>Computer engineering is going to be in demand because of the internet of things

First year comp eng here. Yass.

Who /physics/ here?
What am I supposed to do after my graduation?
Assuming I'm graduating, because I'm in my first semester at uni and nearly all my interests for physics are btfo by now because of the math.

Thinking about changing major. What would you guys recommend where I don't have to do that "proofing" math? I'm okay with applying math but all that proofing shit is too hard for me.
Call me a pleb if you want.

>>7649788
Bump

>>7649788
You comp sci is pleb tier. Good luck finding a job

>>7655087
Engineering lol

Guys, I could use some help. I'm pretty good with sciences but pure math just really isn't my thing. I'm afraid that if i'll choose engineering that my math won't be sufficient. Some advice?

Do you like concrete and concrete accessories?

Then civil.

Yo, what the fuck do you do as a mechanical engineer anyway?
To anyone that is one, literally what exactly did you do today? Sit at a desk and calculate integrals and moments about forces?

>>7655087
Literally engineering. He'll hatred for proofs and theoretical math is half the reason why engineers become engineers

>>7655330
No, fuck concrete.

>>7653283
Based Beer
Fitzgerald is decent

>>7655299
What science involves pure math?

>>7649761
Time to invest in video games

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>>7655499

None, it's just autism that the evil math professors made up so they could get a job playing with autistic puzzles while taking all your tuition money (so they can eat it).

>>7641911
Spot on regarding BME

>>7655558

quit avatar fagging so hard

>>7652198
Chemical engineering is where all the biology majors who don't want to do med school go.
t. ex-biology major who didn't want to go to med school

>>7655975
I think you mean chemistry. Changing from bio to chem e is a lot harder than changing from chem to chem e.

>>7655984
No, I don't mean chemistry. It is more difficult for a biology major to do so, but it definitely happens much more frequently.

>>7655992
Why don't they just do biomed engineering?

>>7656003
Biomedical and chemical are essentially the same thing in my school, except some upper level chem electives are replaced with biomedical-related ones. In general, biomedical is the same thing as chemical engineering but the job prospects are much shittier (although the reverse is true for PhDs).

>>7655975
Nope they become biomedical engineering majors. BME is a good career. Lots of companies are hiring them because EE are just shit at the bio-mechanical stuff. Also I agree with your views on med school. Its just a shit career and you have to deal with people.

Hello guys, otherfag here.

What do you think about sanitarium engineering?

My two choices are mech and sanitarium , but i like both too.

>>7655087
>What would you guys recommend where I don't have to do that "proofing" math?

engineering for sure.

once you take numerical methods, you don't do a single fucking proof anymore. you just approximate everything in matlab.

>>7655356
Mechanical Engineer here. Your question could get a shitload of different answers, just because ME is so broad, but here's a break out of my day to day.

I work as a Field Services Engineer for a large turbomachinery OEM. My office is in my house, and I work "on call". My company lets me live anywhere in the US, provided its within an hour of a major airport.

My work schedule is something like two weeks out, 1 week home. That's average though, sometimes I'm on the job for 8+ weeks and sometimes I have a 3 week gap of down time.

I will get an email from my boss with a service, installation, or inspection request for a customer and I typically have 24 hours to be on site. I spend my travel time briefing myself on the customer and reading any relevant documentation on specific equipment.

Once I get there, I have a meeting with whoever is my appointed liason and we suss out what their problems are or what they need. Depending on what they want, I'm either doing estimates and initial drawings for new installs, or troubleshooting and diagnostics so the techs can come in and spin their wrenches. I'm also supposed to upsell whenever I can and provide corporate hospitality to the customer (I just take the floor manager and his lackeys out to a titty bar or something).

Any calculations I do are either super rough back of the napkin estimates, or plug-n-chugged through software.

I'm a glorified mechanic desu senpai.

>>7656089
>I'm a glorified mechanic desu senpai.
That get pay well with lots of time off. Don't sell yourself short, senpai.

>>7656098
>that get pay well
The pay is pretty damn good considering its my first engineering gig. But they aren't paying me for my expertise, they are paying me because the working conditions can be pretty fucking brutal at times. I slept in a tent and had to take malaria pills for the last place I went to. Still beats being a cubicle monkey though.

>lots of time off.
Not really, m8. I'm putting in 12-16 hour days when I'm on site, with no days off till the job is done. While a week straight at home sounds pretty clutch, when you average it out, my off time is about the same as someone who works a standard 9-5. My line manager does that on purpose.

>>7656111
>slept in a tent and too malaria pills
You were in the Congo weren't you? Hazard pay is great but the conditions fucking suck, senpai. Well try finding another job back in Australia. Something in the city. You can find a international company to maintain their generators, or something.

>>7656115
I will probably switch to something a little comfier in a few years, but I'm only 2 years out of school. These nigga's don't know that you aren't done paying dues when you graduate. Your first 5 years as an engineer are pretty much your apprenticeship, and its either field work in Ooga-Booga land or cubicle shitting. I'd rather deal with disease carrying insects and sweltering heat.

>>7655356
For me, it's sitting at a computer and letting the computer calculate stresses based iff of meshes and loads.

>>7656118
Yup. A lot of engineers leave in those five years. By the time you reach year five, only a few are left. Hence the big income. Also I agree doing field work its better and you can move your body in your youth.

Civil undergrad here. I have an interview with one of the largest construction companies in the south east for a summer internship tomorrow. Anyone offer some advice, questions I should ask?

>>7656165
Emphasize your soft skills (MANAGEMENT). Construction is a lot of social interaction and controlled chaos. The actual "engineering" part is very straightforward.

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aeronautical engineering mustard race

>>7641832
women this hot should be forced by law to do porn

>>7656174
you didn't have to delete that post m8. nobody cares you work for boeing. i work for GE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AERwgNvgMmc

>>7635084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-uploademail&v=2p_8gx-XHJo

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>>7656255
>mfw people unironically watch this for entertainment

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>>7651236
>EE is very limited
lol you aren't even in engineering school, I guarantee it.

>>7656285
>unironically

So if you ironically watch it, you're not being entertained?

>>7656174
>>7656182
Airbus checking in.

>>7655087

>physics major
>"math proofs"

rofl

source: physics grad here and the biggest dick sucker of real mathematics

To all the electrical engineer in this thread: how difficult would you say your program is. I would like to start an electrical engineering degree next year, but I was always bad at math and science in high school. I've gotten mixed responses: some of my friends have no interest in math and science but they've gotten a degree, but others got weeded out by second year. How are the labs in electrical engineering? Is it all math or is there some hands on work involved? Any recommendations to get internships?

>>7656295
Okay list where EE can work? I guarantee you're not even in engineering school as well.

>>7656347
>Okay list where EE can work

anywhere that uses electricity. a better question is where an EE can't work, especially considering most EE's do an EE/CS program.

Mech E, btw. holy trinity nigga.

>>7656347
A degree in electrical engineering is basically the key to the world. You can point to any guy and say "I want his job" and they'll give it. You can be a brain surgeon, artist, architect, anything you want because you've shown your capability in getting a difficult and well respected degree

>>7656361
What life experiences do you have to back that up?

what field lets me build cool weapons

>>7656364
its a bit of hyperbole, but not much. engineering is engineering dude.

LEGALLY DEFINED PROFESSION

any engineer with a stamp writes his own ticket, and our profession favors a broad area like EE.

>>7656373
>wanting to be a DoD shill

>>7656375
Are you a student of engineering?

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>>7656182
I actually deleted it because I couldn't into spoilers, but then I just decided it was a shitpost

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>>7656394
all the posts in this thread are shitposts m8.

>>7653283

If it's about MechE, go with the author that has the russkiest name. Can't go wrong there.

Is biomedical engineering any good?

>>7641785
wouldn't you rather contribute to the design of the civilisation?

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>>7656398

>>7645650
unless those girls are from your computer engineering course you aren't really presenting an argument

>>7656359
EE is considered a specalized field, and only works in tech, and home appliances. Those are the biggest sector for EE. The other anon was right when he said they have limited opportunities. Mech E is jack of all trades.
>>7656373
Those are research physicists.

>>7656375
>>its a bit of hyperbole, but not much. engineering is engineering dude.

still very questionable claim. if you have a stamp, would you stamp a structural design as an EE?

>>7656406
>Those are the biggest sectors for EE work
ftfy.

my point was that electrical engineers don't have to do electrical engineering. its the same for chemical and mechanical guys.

a PE is a PE is a PE. in the eyes of the law, all stamps are equal, and the only real relevant thing is ambition and experience.

wherever you are pulling your "tech and appliance" stats from doesn't account for consulting, sales, or other esoteric engineering fields like cost analysis and logistics.

I'm >>7656089 this guy, and two of our other turbine FE's did EE in undergrad.

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>>7656410
any ABET accredited engineering degree can sit any PE exam, if you can pass the EE PE exam, which is by far the hardest, you can breeze through the others.

so yeah, you could.

>>7641067
better than master of one
finish the damn quote at least people

>>7635084
I'm in chem eng. Wish I had gone into civil.

Everyone always tells you that civil gets paid less but what nobody tells you is that at least they are never out of a job.

Chem swings with the economy so much you really have no idea where you're going to be working in 5 years. (Case and point - oil).

Also literally every BSc in eng is going to be shit on for not having a masters, so it really doesn't matter about this degree hierarchy unless you plan on going to grad school. Only then would I actually say aero/chem/apple math is actually harder. For BSc all any engineering student is going to learn is how to be a calculator monkey (and there is nothing wrong with that).

>>7656482
>Case and point
It's case in point you fucking hillbilly.

>>7656400
Short answer: no. It's only good for grad school and you only go into it if your PI is in the department. What you need to know to do your PhD can be taught better by other departments. Got my Master's in BME before switching to EE for my PhD and I can confirm its a meme department.

Thanks for pointing that out, can I suck your dick?

>>7656482
>apple math
Jeez I want to major in apple math. The best engineering majors for job stability is Civil and Mech E. Grad school is the same. Chem E, EE, or something specialized will have a swing curve for a career. Chem E and PE often have to watch the market becuase it will take dump. EE are the same. Its a bubble.

>>7656504
Apple math is pretty cool, my only friend who majored in it was unable to find an engineering job in the field and ended up taking her actuarial exams and doing finance instead.

I mean she started on an 80K salary and has moved up really fast so it's still a happy ending, but I feel like apple majors end up being pseudo-EE majors through their elective choices to try and increase their employability, working in finance, or if all else fails and there really are no jobs to be found, grad students...

>>7656464
Who the fuck says Jack of all trades, master of none is better than one

>>7656482
>needing a master's
>engineering
Pick one and only one.

>>7657022
You would honestly be really surprised. I know I was.

Realistically you need to couple your engineering degree with a master's in your field if you want to work in design, or an MBA if you want to eventually make it into management.

>>7657022
you don't [math] need [/math] a masters. but it really helps your career progression.

>>7657041
>>7657053
Don't listen to these guys. I'm a structural engineer and I have friends with master's who were turned down by employers because they were overqualified.

>>7657041
>Being European

No, you only need a B and then your PEng in relevant engineering countries with non-shitty schools.

> MBA if you want to eventually make it into management.
Pfft, no. You will get into management with your B unless you're retarded.

>>7641939
>EE
>CAD
No, just no

>>7641911
Chem eng generally has the highest female:male ratio based purely on my own subjective experiences.

Not that it ever helped my cause considering I never went to class... Got to nail a few psychology bimbos though :^)

>>7635978
This is so true haha

Realistically, how difficult is it to learn AutoCAD or Rivet or Solidworks online? I just don't want to pay $1000 + spend 1000 hours in a classroom wasting my time with people way dumber than me.

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I'm currently enrolled in an Aerospace undergrad program at University of Colorado. (Certainly one of the better unis for this and I get in state tuition)

I originally wanted to do this because I wanted to work with planes, rockets, space shit eventually etc. Sometimes though I worry about my job prospects.

Are there any aerospace undergrads who can fill me with a little more hope on this? As in, is majoring in aerospace undergrad really a poor idea? I wanted to do something fun, but I also wanna have a job when I get out of this hell hole that I'll probably end up sinking way more student loans in than I can afford.

>>7657122
>Solidworks
Solidworks is piss easy. there are literally video games more difficult.

>>7656437
i should rephrase it a little bit better. my point wasn't if an electrical engineer can become a civil engineer, then you would be a civil engineer and be stamping designs and claiming expertise and specialty if you were to stamp civil designs. but as an electrical engineer, would you still stamp civil designs or would you not?

>>7657122

Learning to use the program is easier than most video games like the other poster said. Learning to use the programs effectively and to their full potential is difficult and requires experience which no amount of googling can give you.

>>7657122
>wasting my time with people way dumber than me
>cant learn CAD just by opening it up and fucking around with it
i got news for you m8

>>7657245
Aerospace is booming at the moment, but the field is really cyclical. Basically, don't go into it if you want to work for one company for more than a few years at a time, but you'll make bank while times are good.

t. ME grad working in aerospace

EE here. I may get into control systems, but I also want a math minor because it seems interesting. What type of upper divs wouls be most beneficial to my depth?

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>>7658300
I'd recommend taking some calculus and differential equations.

>>7658306
We had to take those for my two-year Engineer degree. Are you meming?

>>7658306
>upper divs
those are obviously required
to the EE guy, take PDEs and maybe complex analysis

>>7641911
>tfw EE
>half the people are normalfags
>95% of the others are tryhard Asians/Indians
I just said it in another thread:
>normalfags copy each-others homework
>half the course grade is homework
>tryhards copy each-others homework and study 12 hours a day to get 100 on tests

>>7658313
>>half the course grade is homework
fuck kinda shit school you at m8

>>7649519
DSP "signals, systems, and filters" by Andreas Antoniou or DSP "principles, algorithms, and applications" by John Proakis are pretty useful but depends on what you're having issues with.

Have pdf's of both if you're trying to cop.

>>7658300
Linear algebra if not already required

Control systems probably the only thing in your degree which demands knowledge of state space representation so definitely a matrix work oriented class would help.

>>7658309
Thanks anon. PDEs was definitely considered, but I'll look into complex analysis.

>>7658321
It's required. Although maybe an advanced Linear Algebra class might help.

>>7656341
Depends on the class. I've only used Calc II or so for the past year. I took got a generic Engineer AS at a CC, great great school. Transferred to Uni, absolute shit.

If you have someone to pay for a car, and friends to copy homework, you can easily get As, internships, whatever. If you're poor, with no friends, expect to get Cs. All campuses I know of have free tutoring for maths, if not some sciences too. [spoiler] I've tutored maths for like 4 years so far [/spoiler]

>>7658317
Alright, I checked, it's only 20% after weighting, but it's just so much shit to trudge through.

I would literally do more homework if they didn't grade it.

>>7656341
>>7658328
Agreed, depends on the class.

Classes like electronics for example don't really require as much math as they do a fundamental understanding of circuitry or the way electrical components work.

Classes like digital signal processing are pretty rigorous mathematically when dealing with convolutions, discrete fourier transforms, and shit like that.

Most labs I've had are much more hands on than math oriented. Honestly though if you're shit at math then you'll be a shit engineer.

How meme is mechatronics engineering? I would like to work on robots and AI.
Currently im on my last year in Information Systems Engineering and its awful because i dont want to be an IT monkey.

>>7658529
>memetronics engineering
Just pick one or the other or double major in mechanical and electrical. The word mechatronics on a resume looks really dumb.

I got 10 days to decide whether or not to enroll into college. How can I find out if I could get into engineering? Like how can I build an honest interest and not rely on the status of it or pay?

>>7658535
Doble major and then masters in mechatronics sounds good

>>7658538
Why do you have to write an essay or something about your passion for X Y Z?

If you've been given the option to enroll or not, doesn't that mean you've been admitted already?

>>7658558
No I'm just deciding whether my interest in engineering isn't due to the fact that it's a meme. If it's not for me I'm just gonna become a welder for cars and say fuck it.

>>7658567
If you're only going to major in engineering because it pays, but you're the sort of person who looks at Calculus I and contemplates suicide,then its quite safe to say you won't like it and pursuing an engineering degree probably isn't worth it.

Just think about cars, machinery, math, physics, Feynman, anything along those lines. If it makes your cock hard, do it. Otherwise go major in Poli Sci or something (lol).

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>>7658529
Very meme

>>7658598
i wanted to major in engineering because of the pictures of rockets, electrical, spikes, tall buildings, and robots. all i got was a bunch of cad and documentation on little pieces that could be in anything.

I've dropped out of college twice. Am I beyond saving? I just want my engineering degree more than life.

>>7647157
>biomedical is the meme king

>>7645883
>A Doctorate in Engineering is literally worthless
depends on what your field of work is in

for example I'm doing mine in ME under a uni research lab that develops massively parallel CFD/FEA codes that get run on supercomputers. we use them to solve all sorts of problems that industry is interested in and we're constantly sponsored by DoD/DoE & companies that need hardcore analysis work done. every single student who leaves our lab finds a kickass job in R&D or at companies that do similar stuff, nobody has gone unemployed. and I only go to a top 50 school as well.

if you're interested in just doing BS level work (and there's nothing wrong with that at all), then yeah just stop there. I worked in industrial labs before and basically everyone I saw there who had the most interesting stuff to do in R&D had at least an MS, mostly PhD. it's all a matter of what you want to do for a career. I will say that you would be extremely hard pressed to find someone with a BS that does the kind of stuff we do, there is simply not enough time to learn this material on the job when your boss expects you to be producing other things.

Power engineering, son.
baby boomers are retiring. the workforce for plants and grids are in decline. renewables are on the rise. It's easy pickings, people.

>>7656464
That's a fake end to the quote mate, only added by people insulted by the implication.

>>7658994
Sauce?

>>7652021
He did some cool shit though IIRC, predicted absolute zero temperature, invented a power cycle, some other shit that I forget.

>>7636181
>Chemical

shit pay unless you do a phd

>>7659043
>pictures of rockets, spikes, tall buildings
Definitely gay.

>>7661759
Know a grad of UW Madison chemE got offered 180k/year in petroleum straight out of school

>>7661855
any engineer working in the Oil/Gas industry makes that kind of money. enjoy living on an oil platform or some shit camp in BFE south dakota.

they are paying you because your QoL is absolute dogshit.

>>7662993
I don't know about oil rigs but camps here in Canada by the major oil/gas companies are hotel quality. I am currently staying at Encana's Sunset Prairie Lodge and it's great.

>>7647143
>you will get a professorship offer
If you have to think about getting a PhD you aren't good enough.
>>7647173
who cares you won't get a professorship unless you're doing cutting edge research out of the gate, sorry.

What is PE? Is it a US thing?

>>7663827
professional engineering license

basically you take a 6 hour test, work for at least 4 years as an engineer, then take another 8 hour test

http://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe

>>7641899
Reaction engines engineer pls go

>>7663836
>8 hour test
For what purpose.

Too bad I probably can't even try taking the first test because I'm not 'murrican.

>>7663855
its a big test. spans a lot of information. you get like a break or something

>>7649471
Just because they can doesn't mean they should, if they know what they're doing sure, but isn't knowing what you're doing a first priority?

>>7658300
That's redundant tho. My school doesn't even let me minor in math or applied math for being in engineering already. ;_;

I'm very behind my Computer Architecture course pray4me guys

>>7640866
for some reason I don't like it when people use my OC, especially when it's to prove a point that is absolutely incorrect.

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>>7658567
if you don't think that maths is cool, let that engineering fantasy slide right out of your mind and save your time and money because you will kill yourself if you don't at least admire mathematics and see the beauty in it etc etc etc. if you obsess over it but aren't the hardest working person in the world, then you should be in maths or physics.

if you have literally any brains, don't be a welder. if you're smart enough to actually ask something so specific to whether or not you're interested in it because it's a meme etc.. then you should probably look more into it. If you're poor in maths, then you'd better figure it out up to calculus pretty quick. the guys that go into engineering/physics/chemistry/maths are all pretty damn sharp with an occasional dud and the engineers will be extra hardworking. I personally didn't like the nature of a CAREER in engineering so I majored in physics and economics and felt that I was learning more that I would apply to the real world throughout my life. It is only my opinion, but I don't think that anyone should go into engineering unless they always took shit apart when they were a kid just to figure out how thing worked and even built things/repaired things out of a knack and intuition. I did all of that as a kid and was always very good at figuring out how things worked, but a CAREER in engineering is NOT for everyone and it is tedious. You're not going to be Tony Stark or Elon Musk just because you got a degree in mechanical or electrical engineering. You're going to get a job working on your computer in a cubicle 80% of the time and going out to the field to inspect/check/whatever things the other 20%. You have to really get a raging, rock hard cock from the most minute and tedious of actions and details to really, really like the typical engineering job because in reality, your job is going to be typical and you're just going to do cool stuff on the side in your garage at home like all of the engineers do, IMO