What the fuck is her problem?

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>>39486090
The first screenshot I was talking about lasers from the product scanners

>>39486090
Laser tag sounds kinda weird on a first date to me, but she didn't immediately shoot you down. Maybe that's the only problem. IDK tho.

>>39486101
If she dances around your words, drop her immediately.
You have a life too dont let some bitch drag you by a leash.

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>>39486101
We just hung out all shift bc of Hurricane Harvey and I got all the signals

>>39486118
I know what you mean. I'm making it apparent that I won't waste my time on her. Is d

>>39486123
>all shift
People don't hit on each other during work, anon. You misinterpreted things.

>>39486123
>Brad

She's already gettin dicked.

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Rape her right fucking now

>>39486113
Well idk man I think we feel pretty close to each other. She said it sounds fun so what am I supposed to think?

>>39486142
good never let anyone treat you like this.

>>39486152
I doubt it. The ethos is very casual at my work and everyone is bare minimum friendly

>>39486152
Have you ever worked retail or fast food. Trust me, they do.

Source: guy banging a co-worker he only saw at work before she came to mines once after work for sex.

>>39486153
Kek he's our boss so know. He's also married and has some beta traits so I doubt she's attracted to him in the first place.

I agree with the guy saying laser tag is a bit too much on a first date. It's not bad, but it is too much commitment for a modern day woman (save that for a later date)

make the first date something easy and low commitment. Get icecream in a location with lots of things going on around it and go for a walk.

>>39486152
Yes they do. I used to work in a cafe and there was always flirting and dating going on there.

>>39486173
Thanks. Is she mistreating me? My guy feeling tells me she's doing it on purpose to try and see if my former beta make traits come out. Like, she doesn't know but I used to be real beta

>>39486253
Yeah I suggested in my texts we could go out to eat. I just feel really committed to her I guess.

If anyone has any criticisms, please post them. Why didn't she just give me a "yes"? Is she a sociopath!

>>39486313
She's playing hard to get and isn't committing before chatting to her friends and seeing the consensus.

Woman are weird that way.

>>39486090
>laser tag

what the fuck is your problem?

>>39486090
>okay, so "yes?"
too desperate, and women love to play games
>usually only Sunday lol
She probably gets off work on other days
>>39486101
>>39486123
these were painful to read

>>39486392
I would cringe hardcore if someone suggested that.

It is a terrible first date idea.

>>39486090
>a girl is friendly around me so that must mean she wants to be my girlfriend
please do not shoot yourself in the foot like this
also dont keep giving her fuckin options cause that is where you are gonna fail, if you are gonna do it on sunday then do it on sunday and let her miss out
if you keep asking her "when are you free to do x" she's just gonna keep putting it off cause she doesn't feel like doing it with you, hence the whole youth event bullshit, because if it was something she really wanted to do i am 1000% sure she'd make the time for it
stop letting these girls get so much room on the field cause they are just gonna run laps around you and make it that much harder for you to do what you want to do

so if you are reading this
>YOU pick the date that you are gonna do it
>she's just being nice and if she's really feeling you, you'll know
>her number one priority is not giving you the impression she could ever be a bitch, so what you are seeing is a very well executed act of showing you what you want to see/hear, she will always take advantage of the opportunity to make herself look good to you and others
>do not trust anything this woman is saying for a second and take every single thing she replies with a gallon of salt
>stop making your texts so long
>say everything you need to say in one text
>don't expect her to do anything for you because that's a indication to her that you can't do anything for yourself and she'll cuck you for another man who can
>if you want to make this successful you need to demonstrate you have value to this woman, with this lasertag bullshit you are just making yourself look like an open wallet for her to use, you need to show her that you are WORTH spending time with
>AND WHEN SHE ASKS YOU WHEN YOU ARE OFF YOU JUST FUCKING TELL HER SUNDAYS

>>39486454
Ugh ok. Thanks
>>39486392
I'm 19 nigger

>asking /r9k/ for advice
maybe your beta guy instinct is trying to tell you're not that important to her
and maybe you're just posting here to confirm it
and you're right

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What the fuck kinda cancer thread is this you normalfuck?

>>39486397
I know what days she gets off bc we get a schedule sent to us. Maybe I should kill myself

>>39486510
>19-year-old doing laser tag
Unless it's one of those rare, expensive ultra-realistic laser tag joints you are a complete fucking nerd fag. Regardless of if you fuck her or not.
You're not in middle school, take her to an okay restaurant and talk to her about stuff. You can't bond over laser tag.

>>39486516
I don't trust anyone else because only r9k sees things the way I do.

>>39486510
>implying 19 isnt still too old for that shit

cmon anon even walking aimlessly around town as a first date is infinitely better and less autistic than fucking laser tag.

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>>39486539
Sorry bro but you kinda messed it up, never seem unsure because then the girl is going to be doubly unsure. Women value security, and men provide security.

>>39486537
>robot doesn't understand a wymn
>gets called a normalfag

>>39486557
Well we would go to eat afterwards >>39486562
>>39486570
Thanks. I think I'll just kill my self fuck.

>>39486570
I'm just kinda knew to all this. I just developed an understanding of beta male traits in regards to women and how to correct it. I don't want to be someone I'm not but I don't want to be a dick.

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>>39486170

This has happened to me before OP, don't take everything she says as truth. It's entirely possible that she's just trying to be nice to you, I know that isn't what you want to read but its a possibility.

As for testing the waters to see if she is into you;

-Be yourself

-Stop trying so hard in your texts, don't be so pushy. If she's interested, she'll respond and LET YOU KNOW WHEN SHE'S FREE AND INTERESTED

-Don't get hung up on one girl, if she ends up not being interested, move on to the next one. Still be respectful, don't dig yourself into a hole.

>>39486454
What they said

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>>39486590
>>39486614
Well if one woman liked you another probably will, just do better next time.

>>39486623
I didn't realize I was pushy or trying to hard. That's exactly what I was trying to avoid but the stupid fucking cunt didn't give a "yes" or "no" so I typed what I typed

>>39486590

What >>39486635 said, take it as a learning experience, don't get hung up on this. If she isn't interested, then she simply isn't worth your time.

>>39486635
Thanks. Is there no way to salvage this situation in your opinion?

>>39486672
Yeah I see that. I haven't had an opportunity to act on a girl flirting with me in some time. I've learned a lot about the signals and such and I learned about how to text girls on YouTube. I guess I need practice.

>>39486663
>>39486623 here, don't sweat it. I was the same way a year ago. What helped me get passed my own awkwardness was joining clubs at my uni and tinder desu. You just have to be more confident, the uncertainty can be a big issue, but sometimes you just have to chill.

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>>39486681
You could see if she'll bring it up positively again, on the off chance that she was telling the whole truth and was actually interested. If you don't get to go out this time, and you don't meet another girl, then try asking her out in person in like a month. Don't do it by text again because she can just scroll up to the last time you tried. It will probably be more difficult in person, high risk high reward. It's your last chance though, otherwise just remain friends.

>>39486681
Just act normal. Thats literally the only way to salvage it. What does your text feed with her look like currently?

>>39486723
I'm trying to chill. I just want to share happiness fuuuuuuuck.
>I joined clubs/tinder to help
I don't feel awkward anymore. That part of me doesn't exist in the same way it used to. Not around girls.

>>39486768
Thanks anon that is a good idea and has worked in the past, I'm just kinda pissed/confused. This is such a good idea
>be normal
>>39486778
You fucking faggot

You are being too fucking wordy OP

>>39486778
If I got new texts I would update it. Fuck this stupid fucking bitch I hate this life and I hate society so much

>>39486818
Yeah I see that. God I want to kill my self rn. I want to fucking slap her too

>>39486827
Don't. Just chill out. Is this >>39486123
the last set of texts you sent/received?

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>>39486852
Oh fuck did I not post this anons come back

>>39486827
>>39486849
>I hate
>I see
>I want
you are too concerned with what you think is "yourself" that you are blinded to why you are unhappy

>>39486870
$5 says she's still awake

...fucking LASER TAG lmao

>>39486870
You're overthinking it, that seems fine. Just wait until she texts you back tomorrow, you didn't do anything wrong.

>>39486870
Op is she a thot? If so don't even try my nigga no matter how much you think she likes you

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>>39486911
>Hey Stacy check this out. Anon just invited me to laser tag LMFAOOOO

>>39486887
Society conditioned this stupid fucking cunt to act like this. This is the backbone of brainwashing and indoctrination. She's traditional, church goer, chaste, but here is where it is. Society as a whole is corrupted in the west. No human including her is truly free despite having good values and being nice etc etc

>>39486913
>You're overthinking it, that seems fine. Just wait until she texts you back tomorrow, you didn't do anything wrong.
Don't fill him with false hope. If it's not a yes it's a no. Women always make time for men they're interested in. OP, stop texting her. pls.

>>39486913
Oh thank god. Please be the truth. Roll for dubs
>>39486930
Nah she's not a thot. Some quotes
>I hate how people think they have to take all the time
>people are annoying
>cue prolonged silences between us, enjoying each other's company

>>39486870
you sound thirsty as fuck tbqhwy family
she'll go out with you cause you'll probably end up paying for it just to be "nice"
if you wanna be successful its all in the way you are talking to her, you sound too nice and it's gonna get you walked on and cucked

>>39486956
It seemed like she might've been subtly talking to her co worker about me in Spanish because they've never done that in front of me. Ready to end it all

>>39486984
How attractive is she mate? This is very important information to determine your chances

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>>39486984
She's not going to date you. We've seen this a million times. Women draw out the beta with a whole bunch of excuses why they're not available. Beta thinks because she hasn't absolutely said no he's just about across the finish line. beta ends up with a restraining order.

>>39486976
I've heard this too. Fuck it's so ambiguous
>I'll let you know
Is she letting me know if it's a "yes" or is she saying "I'll let you know if I'm free"

>>39486996
Anon if I get the date then there's a chance for me to take control of the situation. What should I do in the event I get the date?

>>39487022
>Fuck it's so ambiguous
Yeah, it's always ambiguous when they're not interested. Trust me, you will never date this woman. Pull back. I guarantee you if you never mention this again she won't either.

>>39487012
She's a 7 w/o make up she's an 8 with make up. It's not a drastic change. She's got a nice figure I guess. It's basically normal-thick. Like no huge endowments but nice sized. Not skinny/plane Jane

>>39486870
Just don't text her back unless she texts you. If she doesn't text you back she is not interested in you.
If she does text you back, maybe try suggesting something else, like eating somewhere. But idk how autistic that is.
Also can you play laser tag with 2 people? Or are you in a group of strangers?

>>39487015
Well she won't bring out any clinginess. I'm aware of that and I can avoid that. I'm just trying to be polite/cordial because...that's how I was raised and I've determined that's the most respectful way to behave...I didn't want to seem pushy but another anon told me I WAS being pushy

>>39486123
>she's religious

don't even waste your time anon

>>39487067
Hopefully everything goes well for you anon..also please update us tomorrow if you hear back from her

>>39487075
It would just be us (kms)
>>39487062
I've pulled back. I'm unsure if I won't date her or not but I've reeled in the line for now. I'm here because I don't know how I fucked up. I guess I found out. But there's still a chance. I don't fucking understand how someone can act so blatantly flirtatious and then say "maybe"

>>39486961
>it's society's fault, not mine!
of course, fail to see the problem and doom yourself to fail again. Going from somewhat weird guy to angry weirdo is a bad move.

>>39487120
Thanks I will
>>39487112
*tips*

>>39487124
That's just how roasties are anon.Sorry you had to find out this way

>>39487112
>>39487142
Religious girls are a safer bet if you want to ensure her fidelity but remember it's not a 100% guarantee and she'll probably make you go to church with her.

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>>39487138
Nope society has conditioned people to act outside of their true nature don't pretend like it hasn't.

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>>39487173
Oh, it's her true nature to go out with you despite how garbage your attempt was? How convenient, assuming you're even the real OP

What you should do, OP.
Is send her a message with "you know what, forget it. See you at work!"
You will have to nag, and nag and nag for a long time before getting a definite no. You're putting her at risk to come out as the bad guy if she states that she's not interested in you.

You're falling in the trap of believing what she's saying and happily tip-toe along with the hope that one day she will be your date and it will all work out like in the movies where she will fawn over how special you are.

What is happening is that she will fool with Chad, Brad and Thad. Some of them will "break her heart" and she needs a shoulder to cry on, a weak male to shower her with gifts and compliments without the implication of sleeping together.
You will be this guy.

Hehe.

>>39487157
I'm finding this pill difficult to swallow. She's Mexican does that matter?
>>39487170
I guess I wouldn't mind going I'm catholic myself.

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>Have work phone numbers list
>Girl I like text me asking if I can take shift
>Take her shift/change 4 weeks in a row
>On days we do work together we talk a lot
>I ask her if she wants a "texting buddy."
>She awkwardly says yes
>Text her the night after that shift
>Text back and fourth
>Ask her if she wants to hang out
>No reply
>Realize all the cringe shit I just did
>Realize I'm a cuck
>Whenever we work together the text is never mentioned
>Two weeks go by
>Learn she has a boyfriend because he came into store
>Co workers nicknamed me "text"
>They call me that every shift
>Leave job
Anon stop texting her.

>>39487209
>I guess I wouldn't mind going I'm catholic myself.
DO NOT SHOW UP AT HER CHURCH

@39487198
Now you're just trolling, looking for an excuse be condescending. You're probably a sociopathic normalfag.
>>39487205
I'll wait. I don't want to text her once more than once. I know what you mean, but if she had a bf it would've come up by now unless I'm an orbiter/tool to cuck the other guy. She always comes into work with some guys from church group that are p nice Mexican dudes. But she's not dating them. Is that a warning sign?

>>39486090
don't waste your time. she has no interest in dating you.

>>39487233
What the fuck why? Just because I disagree doesn't mean I can't experience someone else's beliefs

>>39487209
I was pretty much in the exact same situation you are in about a year ago...my co-worker was super flirty and touchy with me I genuinely thought she liked me and that I had a chance with her..invited her to a date and she completely rejected me and said that she didn't see me that way.I was pretty heartbroken but I moved on so I tell you by experience that roasties are indeed like this it's hard to accept it but it's true..also most of the Mexican girls I've known are turbo thots..but don't take advice from me I'm just a bitter autist that posts on this shitty board lol

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>>39487213
OH FUCK orbisklfuhs lost my shit

>>39487209
uh I should say that you would only go to church with her after you start dating officially

>>39487287
Because it'll only dig a deeper hole. Be honest, how much of going to church is seeing her and how much is religious curiosity?

>>39487043
stop calling it a date for starters because only boyfriends and girlfriends go on dates
2.) dont create an opportunity where she can get a handout, cause a date implies you are gonna pay for everything and she's gonna let you and if you dont she's just gonna deny you pussy
3.) dont dress up, just wear some jeans and a shirt and make it extremely simple and casual because women are complex fucking creatures so her impression of you will be extremely critical
4.) if you weren't already flirting and talking about sexual stuff, go dancing with her (club or wherever, because that is your best chance to get more physical with her and intimate)
5. dont go to a fancy restaurant or something, just go to a mcdonalds or a chick fil a or where ever you can get good takeout food, eat in the car or if you aren't driving then kinda just find somewhere to talk and hang out
6. the 3 things to getting laid is all about
>trust
>interest
>profit
if she trusts you enough that you wont put her on blast about the fact you fucked her then thats a good step because it happens more than you think, she's not gonna fuck you just because you want to fuck her, you need to build value (physical attraction) and get her interested in you as a person and finally profit, is she's not gonna wanna fuck you if you come off as limp wristed, beta, etc, she's aware that a man knows the right spots to hit, w/e so you need to be assertive, act like you know what you are doing at all times and dont take no for an answer (unless it gets physical to the point where its less about consent and more about borderline i need to get away from this man)

if you follow this advice you will recognize the greatest truth about women and how they really have no particular standards and are easily influenced
>>39487170
>he fell for the if she's a christian then she must be a nice girl meme
cuck

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>>39487213
The suffering is real and eternal

>>39487297
Girls have behaved that way too (flirty but turns out they don't like you) but I'm not sure about this one. Her intelligence is easily above baseline (determined that by talking to her once) and most girls that flirt but aren't interested are too stupid to realize it.

>>39487322
>he fell for the if she's a christian then she must be a nice girl meme
I never specified Christian, and unless you're dating a 1488 redpilled National Socialist girl who was taught by Rockwell himself then your second best bet is a girl who thinks she'll be punished eternally if she cheats on you. She doesn't have to be Christian, it's just that most of them are. Date a Muslim if you can, or maybe a Jew but then don't have kids.

Bad idea dating coworkers. The relationship will almost never work out and then have to quit job or deal with constant torment.

>>39487213
>not asking her if she had a boyfriend when you first got her number
>asking a girl to be her texting buddy
C U C K
U
C
K

>>39487315
>>39487320
I'm not going unless I'm dating her obvs. I won't go to her shitty youth group thing

>>39486392
>not liking lazer tag
the problem is with the woman not OP

>>39487364
Sounds like a normalfag problem/advice imo unless something went horribly wrong but what do I know

>>39487344
Honestly man just wait and see what happens..best case scenario she accepts your invite and she actually likes you,worst case she rejects you or puts excuses to avoid going out with you..if this happens then just stop talking to her cause she isn't worth your time

>>39487322
What should I say? I have romantic intent.
>all your other advice
Thanks for assuming I'll get that far let's hope. I hope she fingers herself to me
>sex
I don't want to fuck until im married though. I want a long lasting stable relationship

>>39487205
THIS. OP she definitely doesn't sound interested. She would have dropped "church" if she liked you that much.

>>39487374
God I hope so. I think it is...god I want to die
>>39487421
Yeah I do have to wait. I hope we can go out tomorrow because otherwise I get the fucked up scenario of laser tag then food but other anons said laser tag was a mistake.

There was a girl I asked to meet up with twice, and both times she had things going on (the first time I said maybe we should meet another time but she didn't respond). After that I just left it. You just need to learn to let it go, OP. Spend your time on somebody else.

>>39487213
>I ask her if she wants a "texting buddy."
You wot?

>>39487482
It's looking dire indeed. I'll greentext smth really quick
>at work, moseying around
>she's wearing a white t shirt
>can see her bra
>"Rocio you can't wear that at work it's see though xdddd ;^D"
>what I meant was that I fucked up
>"I like your shirt. It's see through ;)"
>she gets flustered and puts on her jacket
>tell her "idc either way"
>when really I should've told her I liked her shirt
Ugh societal conditioning has costed me too

>>39486996
Doesn't look thirsty to me at all. He just wants to make plans and it's hard as fuck if all you get is "maybe".

I for one when making plans want to plan ahead quite far because I don't have time to fuck around. If a girl does this shit then she clearly doesn't value anon's time.

>>39487543
But I feel so close. I got ALL the warning signs. I'm the shift leader and she offered to get Chik Fil A and I told her "sure" and she bought me some food. She likes me right?

>>39487170
Not true. I fell for this meme as well back in the day but it doesn't actually work like that. Those girls are either major sluts or fucking cunts who get on your nerves every time they fucking can.

>>39487506
Laser tag with only two people probably isn't the best idea desu.I don't know where you live but where I'm from a bunch ad young couples go to the downtown of my city and walk around,eat and have a good time so if that's a option you should consider it

>>39487571
Thanks anon. Sounds hopeful. I never intended to come off as thirsty but it seems to other anons I have even when I specifically planned ahead against that.

>>39487560
>"I like your shirt. It's see through ;)"
Holy shit. Aside from my closest female friends I would probably never say that to any female coworker.

>>39487598
Well it's moved to lunch if she can. I guess laser tag wasn't good. I thought how fun it might be if we could play and I could sneak up behind her and idk it just sounds cringe

>>39487617
I don't care. We're around the same age. It's obvious she likes me I guess I fucked up when we were texting.

>>39486090
i know this feel all too well anon.

if you can get out and stay out before its too late you dont want to end up like me

>>39487607
Well, my advice to you is to just drop those plans and just live your life. Don't bend yourself for the girl because in the end, she'll most likely give you a "nooo maybe another time, okay?" and you'll be left doing nothing in the time you planned shit.

Either stop talking to her until she lets you know (she won't) or plan ahead but don't do a single thing towards it until you're 100% it's gonna happen, and if it's too late then let her know it's too late because of her own fuck up.

Don't be afraid to just straight up tell her you also don't have time for shit.

>>39487075
this. if she doesn't text back drop that bitch, don't speak to her irl unless she comes to you. Laser tag is still a fine idea though, have a fun first date, then the next one go out to eat or something and get to know each other better(if you make it that far)

The first mistake you made was asking this board for advice dumbass.

I'm not a regular on r9k for good reason but the active posters on this board are shit with women and salty 24/7, asking them for opinions was retarded.

Taking their advice seriously makes you a double retard.

If you want legit help go to someone who you know has a healthy social life, boy or girl, not some mega Chad, but just a regular person and see what they say.

>>39487646
>It's obvious she likes me
OR she is just a very bubbly person who is very playful with everyone.
I work with many female coworkers who touch my arm/shoulder and joke around/smile/get near me.
It's non-serious flirting and just being nice/getting attention

>>39487627
Nah man it's fine we all become cringy cucks when we like someone lol..but either way i wish you the best m8..just remember if she's not interested there's nothing you can do other than move on

>>39487671
But I desire female contact. It's only natural.

>>39487697
find someone else. nothing good will come from this

>>39487673
THIS ANON..this man knows what he's talking about

>>39487673
If you mean plans for a date I have stopped. I won't bend to her I get that. I just hate vague answers because she doesn't fucking understand how much torment it causes

>>39487678
Well I'm going to get food regardless so she can come too. I've got plenty of money I don't care I'm going to eat.

>>39487673
This is the wise advice of a man who has been rejected countless times.Take his advice op

We got fuckin TJ Lazer over here guys.

>>39487680
Nope. She keeps to herself, hates to talk a lot, is a bit standoffish. I detected her behavior as off immediately. I knew she was going to start showing signs because I had already got her to like me the last shift we had

>>39487707
Yeah, you can learn that when tinder girls start flaking on you.

>>39487751
Yeah.

>>39487720
Well try letting her know that you're trying to make plans and her lack of ability to make a decision is really making it hard for you.

It's not like you can lose anything at this point. Just be frinedly about it and don't come off as angry.

>>39487681
Thanks anon. I'm 100% prepared to move on but her "indecisiveness" was something I was unprepared to deal with

>>39487743
I'm not telling you not to eat, do what you want, and if she's up for it then sure the point is the dates gotta end at some point, save something for later, unless you're gonna smash on the first date which is really unlikely.

>>39487782
I've got restraint in spades being a fucking lapdog beta bitch for years taught me that. Hahaha saying that gave me the urge to tear up and bleach her pussy

>>39487785
That's honestly a warning desu..when someone's that indecisive its kinda hard to tell if she actually like you or if she doesn't like you but doesn't want to be mean and straight up reject you

>>39487793
My unwillingness to smash on the first date is because I want to be pure for my future wife...whomever she might be. She's introverted like me. It'd be simple to take control of her like that...

>>39487807
I didn't understand a word of your post, anon.

>>39487814
Yeah I got it. I'm trying to be precise and more tactful from here on out. Next time we text, I'll be perfect, I think.

>>39486090
How old are you guys op? Maybe she's acting this way cause she's young?

>>39487836
You were talking about warning me on not coming off as angry. I can't.

>>39487851
I'm 19 she's either 19 or 20

>>39486090
Ok guys I'll post tomorrow any news and I swear to god if she doesn't text a "hey I can't go out to eat" or a "hey let's go out to eat" text I'm gonna lose it>>39486090

>>39487951
Heads up: she's not going to respond

Good night

>>39488039
If she doesn't, how should I change my behavior around her?

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>>39486118
this
this this
this this this
this this this this
so much fucking this
don't fall into her trap
she is just stringing you along
if she really wanted to, she'd reply with a bit more enthusiasm
if she really wanted to meet, she'd be able to make some free time for it

>>39488099
Stop giving her attention.

She's doing it all for attention from you but she doesn't seem to want to give anything in return (or perhaps lose opportunities with other men).

>>39488099
just don't write until she writes to you

>ask old middle school friend out on her birthday
>she says yes
>we go out
>she's really happy about it
>we hold hands, we cuddle
>sorry out near the end with a fucking speech on digital audio and lossless transcoding
>she finds it endearing
>says the date was 10/10
>texts me every day from that day on
>we're going out today again
I might finally get a at GF at 23 anons. She's a fucking 8/10 who doesn't drink, hates clubbing and already has a stable job. She might be the one.

>>39488641
>sorry out near the end with a fucking speech on digital audio and lossless transcoding

What?

Anyways, good for you, don't fuck it up.

>laser tag
-__-

>>39486090
Don't be a fucking autist she's obviously into you she would of shot you down the second you asked her out she thinks she's being cute also don't go to r9k for advice you re re

>>39486123
>>39486101
>>39486090
your text style is cringe which is why she won't say yes right away you mong stop overthinking everything she says and be more whatevs about it lol are you literally retarded?

She's clearly the worst type of girl, the "I'm a nice princess gurl and will never outright reject, I will give him vague answers and postpone any kind of possible dates until he understands I'm not interested.".

I fucking hate people like this. Just say "NO" you fucking whore.

>>39486090

"why" are you "putting" "quotation" marks over "everything"

Dude just move on.
is this your first time talking to a woman? Like many anons said before me, you can't let this bitch just play you around like this. You need to be direct. You have to know when you want to hang out with her and what you're both gonna do. If she's not interested or wants to do something else, then you forget about it. Simple as that. Oh and btw if you and a woman ever buy movie tix/food/whatever never let her pay for you or herself. If she really doesn't like it when you pay for her (like she fucking pushes the money away from you) , then let her pay for herself.

You are one of her many back up choices, it's as simple as that.

>>39486562
It's fun as fuck when you're having banter and destroying kids

>>39486090
OP you kind of messed up with this one. There MIGHT be a chance of saving it, though. Firsr of all, as other anons have said, laser tag is a retarded idea UNLESS she's said she loves it (which I assume she hasn't). Also you DONT give a girl that many options. It tells her you are a betacuck who will do anything for her (like raising her and Chad's kid). This is how you do it
>I'm gonna be at [place] on [day]. Wanna hang out then?
If she says no, then
>ok. Next time maybe

>>39488668
He spilled spaghetti and started going on an autistic rant about why FLAC files are the best and everything else can get fucked and she somehow found it cute

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>>39486454
Had to scroll way too much for this obvious post.

>>39487001
>It seemed like she might've been subtly talking to her co worker about me in Spanish because they've never done that in front of me. Ready to end it all
you should have never tried doing this alone, m8. we could have walked you through this. u dun goofed.

>>39487560
>It's looking dire indeed. I'll greentext smth really quick
>>at work, moseying around
>>she's wearing a white t shirt
>>can see her bra
>>"Rocio you can't wear that at work it's see though xdddd ;^D"
>>what I meant was that I fucked up
>>"I like your shirt. It's see through ;)"
>>she gets flustered and puts on her jacket
>>tell her "idc either way"
>>when really I should've told her I liked her shirt
>Ugh societal conditioning has costed me too
god damn you are a sperg. r.i.p op's chances at taco flavored kisses and thicc latina ass.

>>39486090
>>39486101
>>39486123
>>39486870

Dude take a step back and read these texts as if it's two random strangers talking. You sound pushy af,

>>39486870
>>39486123
>>39486101
>>39486090
From these texts, I get the impression that you're a limp wrists little faggot that can't tell she doesn't like you

>>39487213
>>I ask her if she wants a "texting buddy."
>>She awkwardly says yes
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU FUCKING RETARD LMAO

>>39487646
>I don't care. We're around the same age. It's obvious she likes me I guess I fucked up when we were texting.
You are very delusional.

>>39486090
>Wanna go out on a date?

No one asks that spurge. Just ask "do you want to ___ sometime?" Followed by a "Would ____(enter date here) work?"

>>39486090
>Rocio
>Hurricane Harvey
Is her last name Vega, by any chance? If so, she has a bf, champ.

>>39486313
Damnit man, it's simple. She doesn't want to go out with you. Leave it alone. If a girl wants to date you, she will make herself avaliable.

>>39491986
Yeah, I think she didn't respond with a straight up "yes", because you said romantic. She clearly wants too meet. She just sounds slightly immature.

>>39486287
>used to be real beta
>>39486299
>just feel really committed to her I guess.

>hasn't gone on first date yet

Nigga news flash you still are big blubbering beta pussy.

>>39486101
Schedule that shit for next week to give her a reasonable amount of time and if she pulls out without rescheduling, drop her.

>>39486557
>you can't bond over the thrill of battle
>not becoming warriors with your ct3.14

Perma virgin detected

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Same thing hapenned to me man.

>>39490831
Yeah, if your dating men

If a girl responds with anything other than a yes or some variation of a yes when you ask her on a date, just call it off because she's not interested. If she says "maybe", that's a 99% chance that the date won't happen. There's a 1% chance that it will, but even then, she's probably just looking for a free meal.

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>>39486123
>lul idk :p

The fucking cringe, my dude.

You're pushy as hell, give her a break. She doesn't look too comfortable by going out with you.

>>39488168
Hm ok. I haven't had a gf though in about 2 years so I'll still see. If I do get a date I can salvage this

>>39488180
>>39488216
I see. You're right, she gets attention from other men often. But cmon she can't resist bwc right?

>>39489323
>>39489173
Fuuuuuuuck not again. Every other day my dad talks to me about not overthinking things...ugh.

>>39491883
I am a limp wristed faggot but she couldn't possibly know that because all former beta traits are gone

>>39486152
>People don't hit on each other during work, anon
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>39493110
Champ, is this girl Rocio from Dallas?

>>39491986
>>39492196
>>39491791
I'm trying to be as direct as possible. Who the fuck would want to "go on a date" as anything else but romantic? I spefically said that because in the past "hey do you wanna go out with me" wasn't specific enough. Stupid cunt I hate casual/friendly/hook up type of dates and I hate hook up culture I don't know why she would think I want that

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>>39487213
>texting buddy

Are you in middle school by any chance?

>>39486090
>Can not even call her
>Tries to plan a date through messenger
Do not be surprised by this outcome.

>>39492417
Yeah but she doesn't know that.
>>39492713
Welp I have to wait until then. I was going to try and go asap w/ her so there isn't room for
>ohhh I forgot
Or during the middle of the week
>um anon nvm I'm busy then
Etc etc. I went for the kill because I'm eager for the first date so I can quickly establish myself.

>>39492815
I've already said it before, I just need the date so I can change the situation.

>>39493140
>>39491994
Nope she's from Cypress

>>39486090
>ehhhh m'lady did you perhaps mean,, ehhh i dont mean to bother you b-butttt ehh.... i-iss that perhaps a yes?? I mean i am used to no's so thats why I double check t-thanks

>>39493215
Fair enough anon fair enough. She was driving home so I didn't call her I just wanted to get it over and txt her because I had to drive home too. I don't want to make an exucse, just explaining myself.

>>39493277
Hahahaha noo I won't.
>>39492160
Anon pls help. I can't except this

>>39491948
How so?
>>39491210
I think you're reading it in a way I didn't say it

>>39493319
Girls like super bad boys

Just tell her

Ok listen here bitch, whenever you're free im picking you up. When is that?

>>39490876
I'm sorry I didn't realize I was.

>>39493227
>Yeah but she doesn't know that.

Nah just the fact that you are so deeply committed despite the fact you have zero between you yet shows you're a pathetic beta. not USED to be. You are, and women can sniff that up faggot.

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>>39493335
Idk man I hate being a super bad boy and the normie advice (just be yourself) is working with this one, I just had to put effort into "gaming" her. However, my inexperice and hatred of texting is causing me to blunder.

>the virgin date

>>39493356
But I've done a good job up until now of covering up my former weakspots. I'm no longer outwardly indecisive, my body language has been manually adjusted to be normal, the redpill has heightened my conscientiousness, I'm no longer noticeably nervous in my tone AND I standup to more outwardly alpha people, even if they're bigger than me (I'm no longer letting people treat me like a bitch/take advantage of me). I can't see how I'm beta. I've got strong feelings for her but I've learned my lessons.

>>39493424
Laser tag is the virgin date? Please don't make that into a meme

>>39491163
I'm sorry I didn't know. I guess I'll know for next time. Those threads are fun anyways

>>39490788
This cunt is fucking delusional if I'm a backup. I'm intelligent, extremely handsome, white and humorous. I swear to god if she turns me down for Mexican Chad I'll be so mad. There's no way any of her other potential suitors are more good looking than me. Or have more money but not that she would know that

>>39493543
>another elliot is born

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>>39493610
>tfw hapa but with European features

>>39493173
>I'm trying to be as direct as possible. Who the fuck would want to "go on a date" as anything else but romantic? I spefically said that because in the past "hey do you wanna go out with me" wasn't specific enough. Stupid cunt I hate casual/friendly/hook up type of dates and I hate hook up culture I don't know why she would think I want that
she doesn't want you or doesn't want you in the way you want her. either way you are fucked.

>>39493543
>This cunt is fucking delusional if I'm a backup. I'm intelligent, extremely handsome, white and humorous. I swear to god if she turns me down for Mexican Chad I'll be so mad. There's no way any of her other potential suitors are more good looking than me. Or have more money but not that she would know that
have you even scouted her? has she dated white guys before? what is she into? you check out her fb, ig, etc? maybe her parents don't want her with a white boy.

Ai, you can read clearly from the things you posted that you are very pushy and she is dodging you. She is going to give excuses on and on until you give up. She doesn't dare to directly say no, because she doesn't want to hurt you. I am sorry anon.

>>39494035
No I didn't I'm white I didn't think it would matter because most Hispanics would be overjoyed that their daughter got a white guy what the fuck kind of hellscape...

theres actually nothing wrong with lasertag in my city it's not considered lame and I heard it's fun to do stoned

>>39494209
>No I didn't I'm white I didn't think it would matter because most Hispanics would be overjoyed that their daughter got a white guy what the fuck kind of hellscape...
do your homework, son. you recon these bitches before you plan your attack. you think you chad or something?

>>39494064
But that doesn't make sense given her behavior earlier

>>39494294
I might as well be. I'm closer to sigma male though by a lot. I mean I'm as handsome as Chad.

>>39493543
She'll most likely fuck a Mexican Chad. If this girl is Mexican, she's probably more attracted to masculinity and dominance than anything. And judging by those texts, I doubt you're either of those things. To her, you're just her innocent white friend who has a crush on her. She needs Julio, who rides around in a Charger with a gun, to bend her over and bang her out.

>>39494345
But that level of dominance you described is borderline rapist

>>39493227
>went for the kill
>pressure her into dating that week when there's only one day left

Come on anon

>>39494320
>I might as well be. I'm closer to sigma male though by a lot. I mean I'm as handsome as Chad.
how were you born with top tier genetics and had to overcome being a sperg? if you are attractive, girls throughout your life would have uncontrollably soaked themselves and been all giggly and silly over you.

>>39494428
Sorry...I guess that was too forward. I didn't realize. When girls like you I thought it would be best to get a date as quick as possible.

>>39494496
Hapa genes...raised to be too polite...predisposed to autism...less social presence caused me to be overlooked by fucking disgusting but Alpha monkeys...

>>39494496
The alpha male is bred to be predisposed to "breadth". In all aspects of life, the Alpha can talk about and be around all sorts of things without the same level of depth. When two males are side by side and one has depth in a few things but the other has breadth everywhere else including socially (quantity vs quality) in friends, they have more social presence. Unlike me who chose depth and quality.

>>39494519
>Hapa genes...raised to be too polite...predisposed to autism...less social presence caused me to be overlooked by fucking disgusting but Alpha monkeys...
so you are white and asian? maybe she isn't into asians.

>>39494630
I don't look white. Anyone would assume I'm white&white but my mom is half flip. I have hapa social problems.

>>39494424
Anglo men think that Hispanic men's sexual aggression makes him come off as a rapist. It's just a different culture. White Anglo culture finds things like money and intelligence attractive, women in Hispanic culture find dominance and masculinity, aka machismo, attractive. Kinda like black people. You're not gonna attract a Mexican woman by being a smart, funny, pretty boy. If she doesn't think you could beat another guy's ass, she won't be attracted to you.

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>>39494806
Ok, I see. Yeah I get it. Maybe it wasn't meant to be.
>pretty boy
>won't attract her by being smart funny
That hit too close to home. She's said before she likes country music so I thought she was signaling she likes bwc?

>>39494878
No, she's a Tejano. All Mexicans in Texas like country music. I went to a country bar last week and saw a bunch of cholos singing "Tennessee Whiskey".

I'm not saying this girl isn't into white guys, I'm just saying, looks and books alone won't do it for her.

>>39486090

whats wrong is that she likes you, but her pussy throbs for chad.

>>39494939
Hmmm ok. Well she gets off of work in an hour but if she was gonna text me she would've texted me sooner so I could make plans to go w/ her. Oh well. I guess I fucked up.

>>39495042
I can be dominant it's just against my nature. Like, I know what Chad will say but identity and morality restrain me from acting like a heathen. If that's the case, I'll just fail. Fine by me

>>39495085
I've fucked up so many opportunities by doing exactly what you just did.

She's not going to suddenly change her mind

Basically just start freezing her out. Maybe she'll hate the fact that the tables have been turned enough to come crawling back. Next time you see her in person be polite and confident, but noncommittal. Don't shrink away from her like a beta, but don't play her games either

Also you generally only get one chance to prove yourself and you failed. No shame in that. As hard as itight be just cut your losses and move on

Is OP really still posting or is this a larper? Bc this is the cringiest shit I've seen in a while.

I was in this thread last night..did she ever respond op?

>>39486090
>females(female)

ya fucked up op

>>39495114
It's not against your nature, it's against your social conditioning. You were raised to be meek and submissive, so you think dominance and aggression is "acting like a heathen". It's not. It's acting like a man. You have a nice guy mentality.
>W-w-well, if I have to act like a man to be attractive, I'll just fail. Fine.
>I-it's against my nature.
You don't have to grab a girl by the arm and say "Come here, you stupid bitch" to be dominant. Just carry yourself in a manly manner. Walk like you're proud of yourself. Don't run from and avoid confrontation. Don't say to a girl, "do you want to go on a date?" Tell her you want to take her on a date. If she says no, don't beg. Lifting some weights or simply gaining weight will probably help. Dress more manly.

>>39495294
Yeah I got it I will. I'll say "hi" and be cordial but nothing more. She was basically attached at the hip to me all last night's shift though. I really just wanted to hold her in my arms so it's a shame that's something I can't have.

>>39495302
Not larping unfortunately.
>>39495307
Nope and I don't think she will. I have to go out of town and wouldn't be able to take her out anyways but I'm gonna wait to see what she does before telling her I'm taking off anyways.

>>39495424
Don't tell her you're leaving, please. Just leave. She doesn't need to know you're leaving. Keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself, anon.

>>39495389
The last part of your post was the most helpful. I fucked up at the very beginning.
>lift weights
Maybe a little but I don't think lots of visible muscle looks attractive on me.
>nice guy mentality
No, just well mannered. Your example of dominance that you think I have is not what I think. My demeanor isn't meek. I just place an emphasis on manners

>>39495452
Thanks I know. I'm not telling her. We'll see from here.

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>>39487213
I would never talk to anyone i work with on my free time jesus christ my dude.

>>39487368
>asking the girl you work with if she has a boyfriends
>asking a person you work with about anything in their personal life

no sir. i show up at work to get paid, when i get home i play video games. i dont care about their lives

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>>39495576
>>39495307
Op delivering but it's work bullshit. Earlier a shift leader I was working with was getting hostile/aggressive in tone (the unconventional way a black guy gets when he's mad) and texted to apologize to me. I'm not afraid to fight him but I'd lose. I did not back down

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>>39487213
>I ask her if she wants a "texting buddy."

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>>39495690
She's clearly trying to coax the beta out of me.

>lul idk ;p
Anon, what was you thinkin

>>39495690
wtf you are talking to even more people you work with. even if the girl was a 10/10 slut i would have anything to do with her outside of work

>>39495759
What? She's just texting me about work. I don't know what you mean.

>>39495741
drama at work. you must be american, stuff like that never happens in my country

>>39495741
how the fuck do you have the strength to talk about bullshit like that

>>39495749
I was the only one she checked on during the hurricane. Primal urges increased ten fold when I found out she missed me, which is how I interpreted that.

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>>39495809
>talking about work when you're not at work

you need to get a new phone number

>>39495830
Huh? Wdym? I mean I swear to god if Mike gets aggressive w/me or anyone else I'll stop him. I done with his shit honestly.

>>39495844
lol what's the deal I don't get it. I work fast food dude

>>39495926
maybe im the retard here, but i feel like i have the high ground anyway. i just dont talk to people i work with. i show up and do my work. i dont talk behind any ones back or anything.

>cute spanish catholic girl just wants to go to catholic church and be a true christian
>incel autist OP is planning with a council of other autists how to deflower her, going so far as pretending to care about her religion and insincerily attend church.

OP is not a good person. Sorry! Don't expect to date people whose religion you mock.

>>39495741
Damn man she still hasn't mentioned the date you invited her to?

>>39495977
I guess so. I thought it was weird but the ethos is v casual and friendly besides Mike.
>>39496003
Nope. She sent those texts and that's all thus far

>>39496041
Wow that is tragic mate..just leave it alone and never bring it up she's obviously not interested

>>39496002
You realize that she isn't catholic she's non denominational and I'M the catholic one. That council is for Mike the Psychopath maniac.

>>39496065
It's 10 til two, when she gets off. I guess so. But I was so close man wtf. How...? I'm at a loss. All my knowledge and training for naught

>>39486090
Rocio is the usual fat latina name.

Also, that "maybe" means you've been 100% friendzoned.

>>39496103
In the same boat man. I think even reformed nice guys still have certain tells they give off to women that have already been around chad. You can fool ones that have been with Brad maybe.

>>39496192
Friend zoned eh? Well then she needs to control her behavior because she's super flirtatious.
>Rocio = fat Latina
Both Rocio's I've known were not fat

>>39496103
I don't want to sound redpilled but that's just how a lot of women are anon..you can't do anything about it I feel bad that she led you on and got your hopes up desu

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>>39496247
Damnit I know you're right I can't win like this. Also what's the diff between Brad and Chad? Isn't Brad the ultimate host and Chad the ultimate guest?

>>39496294
Brad would be like, the guy that gets Chad's scraps. He can pass for a Chad to the tracys (female brads) but not fool the purebred stacies.

>>39496254
Post as redpilled, cynical, nihilistic as you want so long as it's conducive. I thought religious wymn were the redpill.,,fuck

>>39496340
The hierarchy just gets worse and worse. I've devolved from gamma/beta male status I see instead of my perceived Sigma male image.

>>39496397
For us, and this is something I have witnessed work first hand, I think the best plan of action is to acquire women through the respect of Chad. Women are so desperate for Chad's attention, that if you can befriend a good Chad that won't take your bitch (most true chads are like this because they swim in women) you can then leverage access to Chad.

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Maybe you should try to be alpha and see where that leads you.Worst case scenario she files a sexual harassment complaint against you

>>39496433
Hmm. Too bad I don't go to college and no one at my work is Chad. I'm inclined to think that would work but my situation isn't like that.

>>39496433
To expand on this, I by mere chance and random seating arrangement befriended Chad of in my Math Class. This wasn't just a jock Chad, but he was going after the academics too. He wasn't stupid, but no match for autism. Anyways, I scored a few points higher than him in that class and it garnered a bit of his respect, which his turbo stacy girlfriend emulated. Tracys that seen the respect I got from those two, were all of a sudden interested in me despite my being invisible prior.

>>39496505
Have any hobbies? Find social gatherings designed around something you're interested in/good at and use your knowledge/abilities to garner the respect of that group. Women, being the herd animals that they are will go after whoever has the most social capital within their grasp in a given environment

>>39496481
And lose my reputation, job and any references. Thanks but I don't need female contact that bad. If she keeps leading me on irl though I'll be more physical with her. We'll see. It's 2:12. Guess it's over.

>>39496518
>>>39496433
>To expand on this, I by mere chance and random seating arrangement befriended Chad of in my Math Class. This wasn't just a jock Chad, but he was going after the academics too. He wasn't stupid, but no match for autism. Anyways, I scored a few points higher than him in that class and it garnered a bit of his respect, which his turbo stacy girlfriend emulated. Tracys that seen the respect I got from those two, were all of a sudden interested in me despite my being invisible prior.
i will admit that i have not thought about this strategy but it is pretty fucking solid.

>>39496585
But I don't like fat sloppy pigs. Yeah I've got hobbies but the women at d&d clubs, gaming clubs etc aren't gonna be any good.

>>39496634
It depends, if it's a hobby that Chad is into (Call of Duty, Paint Ball) stuff like that there's often a lot of women around it if not directly involved. Things like gamer girls and the new "alt right girls" wouldnt exist if women didnt have this tendency to invade new male spaces in search of the new pyramid toppers within

The chad befriending theory makes sense. Most of the girls that became interested in me only became interested in me because people that they thought highly of were friendly with me.

However I've also had girls approach me even when I showed no signs of knowing anyone at all. Maybe I'm the chad but I don't even know it.

>>39494499
Yeah, that's true but you want to ask midweek, but on the weekend. They got errands and other obligations like you do.

>>39496680
Well I guess I agree but it doesn't change the immediate situation. The worst thing is that I'm vividly aware of the signals sent, signals I've been watching for for like a year and I still cannot succeed.

>>39496769
There's no doubt multiple ways to manipulate them, refining the formula(s) can be a painful experience though.

>>39496786
In my albeit limited experience, girls that feed off male attention intentionally lead guys on while playing stupid about it. You're seeing the signals, the signals are there, but they're not there for genuine reasons. You might not be her type at all, but an ego boost is every woman's type.

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>>39486090
You're too indecisive, that's her problem.

>>39496785
She told me when we first got to know each other that she doesn't do anything outside of chuch stuff. So I figured maybe today after church but she said maybe in between church and after work

>>39496833
If it's all for an ego boost I may just quit life. I don't want to be a failed normie and do normie things...I just want to be happy and to share it. If this is true, that's the most cruel thing I can think of. I guess I'll just unplug

>>39496939
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, attractive women hold ALL the cards in this particular game.

>>39487213

Good example as to why its not worth being friends with women who aren't childhood friends.

>>39487951

Just promise us you won't stay "friends" with her once she shoots you down. Otherwise you'll be her little emotional tampon that she'll cry about her boyfriends too and be telling you about all the sex she has with other men.

>>39490928
top fucking kek
she must really like him then
>tfw no qt gf to listen to your shitposts

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>>39486090
Bro give up. The delusion that you have exhibited here is astounding. She does NOT want to meet up with you outside of work. She probably doesn't even want to be with you at work. You need to drop this shit ASAP and save yourself anymore embarrassment. Fucking laser tag? Dude. DUDE. That is some weak shit. Please, for your own sake, cut this shit out.

>>39497248
Fucking this. You've got a bad case of the tism, OP. You seem like a pushy creep.

>>39497248
>>39497393

>pushy
>creep

for when just be urself fails

>>39492966
This
Trust me anon this was me once

>>39486123
>lul idk :p
Hahaha are you for real? Are you 15?

>>39496982
Yeah you're right man. I'm free to wallow in hate though
>>39497096
I promise. I womt I'm not so lowly

Even if a girl likes you if you texting game is beta like OP you can still fuck it up

lads, don't ask girls out at work, if you fuck it up the girl will tell EVERYBODY and you'll become a laughing stock

don't shit where you eat

>>39498064
This may be my reality. I've got no issues with being bitter/reclusive. Keeping to myself is my default state anyways. I'll just do that if she tells everyone >>39498064
Didn't think I'd fuck it up

>>39498329
Your default was to ask her to laser tag bro. What the hell did you think would happen.

>>39498390
No idea I was trying to be fun

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>>39486118
So much this. A short red pill straight to the point.

>>39499137
It's just one more reason to unplug like the neets. Wagecuckery is too much there's too much reality and it's just not worth investing in

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>>39486287
>Is she mistreating me?

She's not giving you a direct answer. Her excuses may be legit, but she's obviously not planning on accepting your offer anytime soon. She's not respecting you here. Then again, you should be more assertive and save yourself the "What if?" shit if you need her to answer.

>>39499137
this girl is the cutest.

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FUCKING WAGIE GET BACK TO WORK. YOU WILL NEVER GET PUSSY.