Time to become feminists, robots

Everything they said would be all fine and dandy if feminists practiced what they preached. Feminists bully guys who aren't good enough, and feminists ensure men are locked firmly in our gender roles.

And no, society does not hate women. Western society gives women everything.

ive been saying this since 2013 and thought that people understood my point and still disagreed with feminism

>>39437965
honestly i think those ppl have been bullied back enough.

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Feminists dont fuck those guys or even give them the time of day.

>Having sex wherein i am penetrated in any way

Yeah the majority of women would be immediately removed of whatever attractions they possessed of you if they saw a dildo penetrate your anus. This isnt a sociological system of oppression locking men into this role. It's hardwired biology. Women look up to the men they love. Not down and definitely not directly into his butthole

Piss off you hypocritical motherfuckers

>>39439100
Who has been bullied back? Feminists? Women? Western society worships women and shills for them. Feminists can go almost fucking anywhere and have everyone agree with them. They don't have it hard at all.

>>39439205
>women can go anywhere in society and people will agree with them
t. person currently disagreeing

>>39439205
i think the perception of feminists is shifting and yet people arent picking up on it which is ok for now but in a year the pendulum is gonna sway back..
>>39439199
u r a moron by everyones definition, pick yourself up fool

>>39439289
>u r a moron by everyones definition, pick yourself up fool

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>>39439257
4chan is a notorious place where "loser virgins" go to criticize feminism. This site is a rare exception. I'm not even sure exactly what you are disagreeing with. Feminism is the norm opinion in the west, it's so ingrained into people that even /pol/ embraces it alongside their traditionalist ideology. They hate "feminism" but also think women should have rights, go figure.
>>39439289
The momentum never left their side to begin with.

>>39439205
also any archetypal society worships archetypal women because they have the wombs. this is not hard to figure out from just living or having watched the godfather movie

>>39439339
Oh wait, I misread your comment. That was an autistic moment where I didn't understand who you were addressing, but forgive my trespassing.

>>39437919
The idea of masculinity and what is to be expected of a "man" has been so engrained to most men and women that you cant go saying is just men the ones perpetuating misoginy. Yeah I would really like to dance a little more, put livelier colors in my clothes, express publicly that I like cute things in general and being in more touch with my feelings, but guess what, both men and women will ridiculize me for that.

If women, feminists included, cared about any problems men have and didn't enforce gender roles on us much more strictly than men ever did on women, I'd be a mainstream feminist.

Modern feminism seems to mainly be about equality when it benefits women and maintaining gender roles when it benefits women, so I find it hard to take seriously.

>>39437919

This logic is retarded. Hating men who display feminine traits is not the same as hating feminine traits. If I go to drink a milkshake, and someone's replaced the sugar with salt, I'm going to be disgusted when I drink it. Does this mean that I hate salt? No. I like sweet things and I like salty things, but I like things that are supposed to taste sweet to taste sweet.

Similarly, if I "deride" a man for displaying excessively feminine traits, it's because I expect men to act like men, not because I hate women.

>>39437919
>Homosexual is upset in his own words that people make fun of him for being penetrated.

One of the core complaints of MRA's is the mistreatment and bias imposed by governments on behalf of feminists and women in domestic violence and family court cases.

The DV 'gendered framework' where males and masculinity (including boys!!) are portrayed as inherently prone to violence against women and girls is something promoted almost exclusively by females! If you take a look at who created and promoted the Duluth and similar models of 'patriarchal' 'male' violence against women and girls - it's literally 99% women, I'm not even using 99% as a generalised stat. Go look at who promotes this misandry. It's women lobbying government on behalf of women to bully men and boys for being male.

The OP's image is just the typical feminist attempt to claim that "patriarchy is responsible for all the things MRA's complain about", but it was almost exlusively women who:
>Sought the power of the vote but EXPLICITLY stated an opposition to women being conscripted or drafted or treated on the same level as male voters
>Instituted gender-segregation in prisons, leading to an explosion in the number of males being imprisoned and treated violently
>Frame male sexuality as threatening and allow men to be regularly prosecuted for sex crimes which are overly gendered (according to laws lobbied for by women). A good example of this are the anti-sodomy laws, Alan Turing was prosecuted under an Act that was lobbied for primarily by women - and most of the law related to Age of Consent and rape. In many countries rape is still defined as "penile penetration".
>Promote social misandry (It was a woman who wrote "The End of Men", it was women primarily who promoted and defended the book).
>Promote state misandry (It's women who established the domestic violence framework and framed everything in terms of male on female violence, ignoring male victims and the children who are victimsed by women
etc

>>39439683
>Instituted gender-segregation in prisons, leading to an explosion in the number of males being imprisoned and treated violently

of all of these points, this one is surely the most vile. It breeds violence anew among the already disenfranchised.

>>39437919
An actual man does whatever the fuck he wants and doesn't care about the social stigmas attached to it unless it directly hinders his chances at having a good job. This is all just attention whoring.

>>39437919
I'm fighting for my brothers who are getting fucked by the labor market.


60% of college students are women, similar percentage are grads. More men than ever are unemployed because of the loss of manufacturing and other blue-collar jobs, yet nobody gives a shit about their pain. We're dealing with a lack of career chances, a rigged dating market, and are also told we have an advantage.

Feminists are correct that the top of society is mostly men and there is a glass ceiling, however women also have a glass floor, and there are a lot more men below the glass floor than there are men above the glass ceiling.

>>39439975

>Feminists are correct that the top of society is mostly men and there is a glass ceiling

You speak like an MRA. Why do you have to accept this lie in order to claim men also have it hard? There is nothing stopping women from becoming 'leaders' and gaining high status in politics or in corporate life. If anything women have an easy time because of vagina.

Stop acknowledging gynocentric lies in an attempt to gain leverage by sounding 'reasonable', because you only give power to women.

>>39440048
That is rapidly changing but for the time being most people in power are men. That said, you're right there's nothing really stopping women from climbing up the ladder (and women already out earn men at the lower levels).

>>39439975
>>39440370
Women want men to lead society. When men opt out of their roles, women bark and screech like there's no tomorrow. You've seen it, we've all seen it.
Feminists are hypocrites, go figure.

Our society hates women so much they've given more privileges and money and social status and continuously try to push men away to strengthen their presence in male oriented careers.

>>39440370

>That is rapidly changing but for the time being most people in power are men.

What do you mean by this? Most voters are female. Most men who are politicians have wives and daughters and tend to represent the interests of women in general more than the interests of men in general. Does it help me as a male if I get arrested by a male? Why do I benefit more from the cop's supposed 'power' than say the cop's wife and daughter, or the women the law is meant to protect (most of which is gynocentric, there's a massive gender disparity in sentencing alone)?

Women are privileged over men, that's why they don't work - it's why they socialise males to work and vie for positions of authority and status to gain access to women and society. I don't work but I am privileged and have more power over the average pajeet, even if that pajeet works in a tech company and has multiple underlings.

You're utterly spooked if you think men as individuals have more power, let alone that men as a collective have more power than women.

>>39440397
Yeah because a significant portion of the male population sees the game is rigged against them and thus refuses to play.

I don't believe in the redpill or blackpill/whole 20/80 rule shit, but something's not right. I'd estimate about 15-20% of the male population is going to be NEETs after college/high school or underemployed, and historically when you have a bunch of young angry men, it doesn't tend to end well for the society as a whole.

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>>39437919
when your robot level gets u desperate for pu$$y

>>39440503
Most people in gov't/higher ranking members of companies are men, and highest-paid people tend to be businessmen or pro sports players. Also you have to remember chad has a distinct advantage. Being a chad gets you out of most punishment and is generally whom feminists refer to when they talk about "male privilege" (of course ignoring that they secretly like Chad)

If I had to rank them in terms of social capital, I'd put it like this:

Chad

Stacy

Average woman

Average man

Tumblrinas

Us

>>39437919
This guy has bought into the le men and women are exactly the same maymay

>>39440572

>Most people in gov't/higher ranking members of companies are men

Are you 15? In the UK, US, Australia, Canada the average rate is that 65% of public servants (the people who run the government) are female. The fact that males are elected to represent women's interest doesn't mean shit! Have you worked before? Women fill corporations, and they are very frequently elevate to higher positions because of female power - female power to say "if there aren't enough females up top, misogyny!", even though the vast majority of these companies were created by males in the first place, and women only came along once they were already established. Most women prefer to work easier jobs, that's an actual preference. Both genders have been shown to rate the type of jobs that women dominate as more desirable! Because both genders would prefer to invest less in training, work in pleasant, safe conditions, and have less responsibility - even if this pays less.

You're taking male achievement in certain forms as a form of power, but being a corporate head doesn't really make you as an individual more powerful. The rich and heads of corporations do get prosecuted and arrested for crimes. If Bill Gates assaulted somebody tommorow, he would be charged. However MOST women could assault a man tomorrow and without getting charged, let alone found guilty. Who has real power here? Most males who want to work in government in the US must sign up for selective service while women don't have to. Who has real power and autonomy?

You've been baited by roasties into Chad-hating. This is a distraction for you to focus your hatred on males. Women do this all the time and that's why males are significantly more likely to be victims of violence.

>>39440698
>You've been baited by roasties into Chad-hating. This is a distraction for you to focus your hatred on males. Women do this all the time and that's why males are significantly more likely to be victims of violence.
Not that guy, and everything you're saying is correct, but men are notorious shills for women and that's why we're in this situation.

It doesn't matter that women have an in-group bias. What matters is that men have an out-group bias.

Mfw he's kinda right.

>>39440572
Chad
Average Man
Stacy
Average Woman
Tumblrinas
Us
You

>>39440698
Yeah, hence my point about it only being at the very top. Most middle management positions are now women, along with HR and actually now in white collar jobs. I see this in my own workplace.

As for your example, I strongly disagree. If Bill Gates assaulted someone he would get arrested but he's rich enough to have a good legal team to beat the case. I'd doubt he'd actually do jail time. Just look at all the CEOs on Wall Street that walked away from fraud just fine. Hell Shkreli's probably gonna get off with probation, and he's one of us. For women again it would depend on their ability to find good legal help, although yes courts do tend to sentence lighter tor girls. My friend used to deal to half the fucking school and when she got arrested she got off on probation. Her bf got locked up for a year. You tell me who has privilege in that case.
The reason women don't sign up is because in combat they'd be fucked. Just a fact of life.


I don't hate chad, I have a couple of chad friends and generally they're decent/nice people. I harbor no ill will towards them. However one should recognize that Chad still is the top dog. Stacey's done more against me than he has.
>>39440847
We're in this together man

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Can confirm pic related is true
>be tall white guy
>in a super liberal Canadian city
>where shirt with a Totenkopf on it and walked around in public for a few hours
>women were eye fucking me even more than usual

>>39440948
*wear shirt

>>39440829
Can you even think of a single goddamn way you have ever been mocked that wasn't related to something that a misogynist society sees as feminizing?

>being ugly
>wearing certain kinds of clothes
>playing videogames
>being poor
>being rich
>being a loner
>liking certain kinds of music
>doing drugs
>not doing drugs
>being stupid
>being a smartass
>being loud and obnoxious
>being quiet
>going bald
>wearing baggy clothes
>wearing skinny clothes
>being slovenly and unkempt
>being vain
>having pimples
>being a particular race in an unfriendly environment
>eating certain kinds of food considered weird
>being picky and not eating certain other kinds of food
>being blue collar
>being white collar
>having unusual hobbies
>liking tabletop games
>being super into guns
>being right wing
>being left wing
>having an unattractive accent
>having an unusual haircut
>going out alone
>having facial hair
>being religious
>being an atheist

What a weird question. People get mocked for all sorts of shit, it's not always for "being a pussy".

>>39441184
did you expect the male feminist to not nit-pick?

>>39439257
That's not what he said
Origl

>>39437919
This one poll disproves your entire argument:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/glamour-magazine-sexuality-survey_us_56bcad12e4b0b40245c57d6a

>>39439257
>in society
Welcome to the wild west, bitch

>>39437919
It's not misogynists that want to fine men for sitting the wrong way on the fucking subway. It wasn't misogynists that lobbied against recovery funding for the hardest hit, male-heavy industries after the 2008 economic meltdown (with an 'all jobs matter' rhetoric, comically).
The whole thing is just a done-to-death exercise in framing everything bad as misogyny and good as feminism, disregarding the fact it would label an awful lot of feminists as misogynists if you actually believed it. How far do you think a 'feminists are the real misogynists' argument would go with him?

To be honest the fact that he's putting misandry in scare quotes while talking about how everything bad is a consequence of misogyny (snake oil style) is enough to dismiss him. You could do it the other way around if you wanted: Women not being allowed into military roles is the result of society thinking men are expendable and women are not etc.

>You want to maintain your privilege but erase its consequences

This is like straight white men in a nutshell

>Why do they have to have _________? Why can't we have ALL ______________ instead of just them?
>Racism was in the past, don't judge us all by our ancestors we never owned slaves but I wish we could hang and enslave all of them
>What about when men are bullied for being fat?!

>>39442374
This criticism would be true if you autistic harpies/sluts/whatever you are fuck off when young white men want to opt out of society.
But no, you think it's some awful tragedy when young white men opt out because you know that without us your comfy society goes away.

>>39440948

A Death in June shirt by any chance?

>>39442460
>>But no, you think it's some awful tragedy when young white men opt out because you know that without us your comfy society goes away.

Nobody but your mommy actually thinks that, Jimbob.

>>39442547
Fuck Drumpf and fuck white people!

Keep up the #resistance, comrade.

>>39439683
I'd like to believe whoever wrote the tumblr post wasn't aware of this, but i know better. They act like most men want to behave like women, when what they actually want is to be treated equally under the law and not demonised for their regular behaviour.

>>39442547
So I'm just expected to forget all the posts, all the threads, all the articles, all the conversations I've ever seen or had about this? You're a fucking faggot. I wouldn't have said it if people didn't keep bitching about it 24/7 like autistic spergs.

>>39437919
in theory feminism is great

the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes

all fine and dandy!

But that's not what modern feminism is about - it's only about the social status of upper middleclass and higher women in the 1. world

If feminism did what it promised to do, we wouldn't need MRA and oll of that shit