Do you love Him, robots?

Jesus wasn't a dog haired pale face

>>39364760
aryan jesus

>>39364760
I would if I was capable of love.

>>39364760

Why would I? I'd fuck him if you mean it in that sense.

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>>39364760
Yeah, but I can't lie. My faith isn't the strongest.

>>39364760
who?
Is Him his name?

>>39364760
I prefer God, but he is a cool guy too

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>>39364929
Imagine how absolutely divine his boipussy is

>>39364760
Yea, I love him, but I also want to kill myself because I literally can't decide between salvation by faith alone or the catholic version so I think that I would end up in hell anyway.

>>39364760

Not religious but i understand jezus, he's the rawest personification of pure goodness

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>>39364760
There's only 2 kinds of Jesus

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I know you'll come in the night like a thief
But I've had some time O Lord
To hone my lying techniques

I know you think I'm someone you can trust
But I'm scared I'll get scared and I swear I'll try to nail you back up

So do you think we could work out a psalm?
So I know it's you and that's it over so I won't even try

I know you're coming for the people like me
But we all got wood and nails, we turn out hate in factories
But we all got wood and nails, we turn out hate and factories
But we all got wood and nails, we sleep inside of this machine...

>Do unto others how you'd have them do unto you
Someone should tell Jesus about sexual assault

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I try, but I keep letting him down.

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>>39365660
Jesus knows all about it though

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>>39365713
that is pretty heart breaking. sorry you feel like that anon

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Do you love Her, robots?

>>39365742
Is that Ester?

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>>39364760
>Tell people you love me or I won't let you in my dad's sky club

>>39366471
Unfortunately such an attitude is the result of 2000 years of theological degeneration.

Read some of the Church Fathers. They have a lot more profound things to say than that.

>>39366420
I believe it is Saint Mary

>>39365007
this. Porn usually wins.

>>39364760
What has he ever done for me? Begone, pretender.

>>39366507
amen

captcha: nazarena paseo

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>>39364760
I think Jesus has interesting things to do than watch over me.

>>39364760
If he died for my sins, why do I still have sin?

>>39366823
How else would the church extract money from you? Godda keep that fear alive.

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>>39366471
Jesus specifically talked about not being overly vocal about faith (the exception being when you're trying to convert people) in the gospel, but you know, not like you fedoratards ever make actual points.

>>39366819
>tfw no Third Impact Rei gf with tits as big as a continent

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Why am i alive? I never asked for this misery, Jesus.

>>39366874
Why does it matter what the gospel says? Why do you believe that Jesus was some kind of supernatural being and authority on everything? Also, do you really believe it? I don't think it is possible to really believe something like that.

why do they keep portraying Jesus as white. he's middle eastern.

xtianity is nothing more than an insidious tool of colonization erasing traditional culture and deities for a white one

>>39366946
>Why does it matter what the gospel says?
They document Jesus' life, so if you're a Christian you typically want to do right by the guy your religion is named for.
>Why do you believe that Jesus was some kind of supernatural being and authority on everything?
It's part of the religion? Why do Buddhists think Buddha was some kind of supernatural being and authority on everything?
>Do you really believe it?
I'm not hardcore, I don't take everything literally. I take the lessons from the parables to heart, I try to follow the Golden Rule, just the basic shit.

It's kinda sad just how shallow an understanding of religion and theology we Westerners have. Even "believers" usually have no idea what it is they actually believe or why they believe it.

I genuinely believe most of our current social ills stem from the fact that we've reduced true religion to some sort of personal contract with a homoerotic robed man in order to go to a cloudy palace when we die. Religion is so, so much more than that.

>>39366989
>It's part of the religion?
So what? Believing something just because it's part of some doctrine seems very silly. Did you just decide one day to adopt the Christian package and transfigure your mind into that of a Christian?

>>39367035
All religions stem from the same background, look up perennial philosophy

>>39364760
love

i'm a very original person

>>39367035
Christianity is deeply embedded in the Western psyche. Even agnostic and atheist Westerners still have the ideas of God, sin, Heaven and Hell, etc. lurking in their unconscious mind.

As far as ethical guidelines go, you could do a lot worse than superficial Christianity. It's a quaint religion that speaks to some very basic concepts of kindness, sacrifice and dignity. Better to be a Christian than a militant communist or nationalist or anything else like that.

>>39367035
>Believing something just because it's part of some doctrine seems very silly.
That's kind of the centerpiece of nearly every religion. Adherence to a doctrine means you have a moral code to follow, which some choose to and some don't.
>Did you just decide one day to adopt the Christian package?
Yeah, I had my edgy atheist phase in high school, then once I started college, around my sophmore year, I started appreciating my Christian upbringing, and decided to reconnect with it.

>>39367092
I agree your statement. I do not see how it contradicts what I said.
>>39367210
I don't really have any ideas specifically related to Christianity, but if we assume that you are correct, why should this mean I throw critical thinking out the window?

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>not being Christian in the current year

>>39367260
>That's kind of the centerpiece of nearly every religion. Adherence to a doctrine means you have a moral code to follow, which some choose to and some don't.
Adherence to doctrine is not moral if you are just doing it to adhere to the doctrine.
>Yeah, I had my edgy atheist phase in high school, then once I started college, around my sophmore year, I started appreciating my Christian upbringing, and decided to reconnect with it.
That is the silliness to which I refer. It really doesn't seem genuine. It sounds like someone who is part native trying to reconnect with his Indian ancestry by dressing up in a certain way and adopting customs foreign to him for the sole purpose of belonging to a group.

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I try to keep faithful but my vices keep catching up to me, nor do i feel like i know enough. I reckon its time to read some theological texts.

>>39367271
You shouldn't. Blind faith has never been encouraged by any of the major religions in their true forms.

>>39367325
What would you like to read about first? I haven't read too much, but I could give you some pointers

>>39366507
Yeah a lot of the early Christian theological dialogue is really profound especially if you consider the times they lived in. It especially makes sense how it spread so far among the underclass with the promise of a better life after you die, since their lives on Earth were so shit. Truly the best robot religion.

>>39367318
>Adherence to doctrine is not moral if you are doing it to adhere to the doctrine.
I'd agree, and some people do that. However, I adhere to the doctrine because it suits my morals/values, along with Christianity in general.
>It really doesn't seem genuine.
I don't understand this point; Christianity has never been an ancestral thing, so your analogy doesn't really fit.

>>39367449
Why doesn't the analogy fit? You said the sole reason for accepting Jesus as God was that it was part of Christianity, and that you became Christian because you wanted to appreciate your heritage.

>>39367449
>Christianity has never been an ancestral thing
Not to rain on your parade but it kind of has. Religions are funny things that transcend just belief and come to involve things like culture, history, ethnicity, aesthetics, etc.

My Greek grandma doesn't want to be cremated when she dies because the Greek Church forbids it. She couldn't really care at all about why this is so, she just doesn't want to do it because that's the way Greeks do it.

>>39367488
No, I said that I appreciated my Christian upbringing, not that I became Christian solely because of it. I became Christian again because, like I said earlier, the doctrine aligns with my moral code and the religion aligns with my values.
>>39367494
Christianity and ancestry work differently, because the original Christians were from Jerusalem. If you're talking culture, then yes, Christianity is heavily embedded in culture.

>>39367767
Why does the doctrine aligning with your moral code makes you believe that Jesus is God? If Jesus wasn't God, wouldn't it still align with your moral code?

>>39367804
I generally gravitated to the idea of monotheism, even in my atheist phase, so the form and title in which I identify that god doesn't really matter too much. Alignment with my moral code is not the only reason that I'm Christian, but I'm not going to sit here and list every single reason that I chose Christianity.

>>39367894
So you have reached the conclusion somehow, that the truth has to have taken the shape of some existing religion?

>>39367922
I don't believe in "the truth", there is no universal answer to life. I have chosen to be Christian. Other people who have chosen other religions, or have chosen a lack of a religion, can be happy/successful/whatever. If "the truth" you refer to means heaven, I'm not one of those Christians who believes that nonbelievers are sent to Hell.

>>39367981
You do not believe in an objective reality?

>>39367991
Must you believe in "the truth" to also believe in an objective reality? I believe in the latter, not the former.

>>39364760
Nope. Went to a christian school and tried, I mean really tried, like praying all the time and going to church and reading the bible everyday, and my life went to shit. Said fuck christianity and shit got a lot better for me.

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>>39364760

I cant have any positive feelings towards the being that purposefully forced me to be born and live as an autistic, ugly, unintelligent beta male

>>39368014
Yes. It follows that the state of reality is the truth. If you are Christian, you think that Jesus actually walked the world, and he was actually God, and he actually did what the Bible says. Take the story of Lazarus. It means that some time in the past Jesus actually walked up to a dead man did used his power to bring him back to life. Not a fantasy or a story in some old book, but a certainty as real as your breakfast.

>>39368143
Why should it matter if someone who calls themselves a Christian doesn't really believe Jesus is God?

>>39368178
I think it is misleading to call yourself a Christian if you don't.

>>39368143
So you're saying that my Christian state of reality must be "the truth"? Because I'd disagree, and counter that every religion has a piece of "the truth", on which the core events of said religion are built upon.

>>39368113
You could be a buddhist instead. That way you're probably a beta because you killed puppies in your previous life or something.

>>39368200
But being a "Christian" isn't a real thing, it's just a label. You could have two Christians who agree on virtually everything except for gay marriage. In which case, which one is the Christian and which one isn't? Are they both Christian? Or neither? The answer is it doesn't matter, because "Christian" is a superficial identifier for something far more nuanced than just a few supernatural beliefs.

>>39368215
If you only believe that your doctrine has a part of the trut, why do you solely subscribe to that doctrine?

>>39368267
There is a trait all Christians have in common though, and that is their belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ.

>>39368293
That goes back to the reasons that I'm a Christian. Why does anyone chose a religion? There's a million reasons.

>>39368307
If that's the case, then probably only about 25% of people who attend church are Christians. Not saying you're wrong, just that the label is pretty arbitrary and fluid depending on what your criteria is.

>>39368316
Why do you have to choose one if you believe they all have part of the truth? Wouldn't choosing one exclude you from most parts, in that case?

>>39368351
I do not think it is arbitary, as it is the foundation of all exclusively Christian ideas.

>>39364760
Yes of course oyuiguiyuoyho

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>>39368113
You can be one in Jesus' Church, man.

Paul was a sadistic Persecutor, and yet he saw the light and became one of our fathers.
Augustine was one of the many idiots who dwelved in short term pleasures, and yet, he became Bishop of Carthage and inspired christians for centuries, and still does today,

Many started out bad and became fathers of the faith. Don't be afraid anon, God's always ready to embrace you.
And please, don't look at the judgemental christians, look at the message, it still rings true to this day.

>>39368392
Would Arius be a Christian then, since he didn't believe Jesus was God? How about unitarian Pentecostals, who do believe Jesus was God, but deny the doctrine of the Trinity, something that most other Christians believe? In fact, how many practicing Christians are even aware of the Trinity, or the significance that it supposedly holds in their faith?

"Christianity" isn't one faith. It's thousands of different, inter-related faiths that share some common elements whilst disagreeing on others, including theological elements. Catholics believe we are born with Original Sin. Orthodox don't. I could go on.

>>39368487
>Arius
It is as simple as saying no, for the same reason Muslims aren't Christians. They are very alike in many ways, yet two distinctive religions. It could even be possible for some Christians to have traits in common with some Muslims that they do not have in common with other Christians, but you still have to give greatest significance to the most vital part of the religion. The idea that Jesus is God is far more important in the shaping of Christian though than the question of transubstantiation.
I am leaving now. If the thread is still up when I am back, I will respond then.

Don't really think he wasn't all that special of a guy, certainly not divine but he seems like he was pretty cool.
Beyond that, I'm somewhat religious and surely not Christian.

>>39368487
Belief that Jesus is God and rose from the dead = Christian
Disbelief = not Christian.

You can admire Jesus and not be a Christian, Muslims even like Jesus but they don't believe he's God or in the resurrection so they are not Christian.

>>39368691
>somewhat religious and surely not Christian
meme buddhist yoga practitioner I suppose? Lots of dumb bitches like that around where I live and say similar crap.

>>39368616
So your definition of Christian then is orthodox Nicene Christian. Which again isn't necessarily wrong, it's just.. still arbitrary.

And I mean let's face it, Jesus' divinity is a very confused and convoluted concept, even to most Christians. He's the Son of God, a full human, and God at the same time. Shit doesn't even begin to make sense after decades of theological study.

>>39368735
Not really, I just don't spend much time thinking about religion beyond "god probably exists and doesn't have much to do with the world right now"

>>39368735
>meme buddhist yoga practitioner
What's wrong with either of those?

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I'm sorry but i dont have faith in anything, especially myself.

>>39368813
because how dare people have different beliefs than him!

no


oregagigino

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>>39364760
i think christianity is a pretty cool guy. eh does miricles and doesnt afraid of joos.