Can you liberals explain this?

you know that a species is defined as a group of animals that can bread to produce viable offspring right?

>>39150950
What the fuck. Are liberals this dumb??

>>39150950
Does that mean downies aren't human?

>>39150950
This. I'm not even a liberal, but this is retarded.

stop saying "liberals"

>>39151018
it's not even about politics, OP is just fishing for bait

>>39151006
Scientifically speaking, no

File: IMG_1668.jpg (24KB, 400x267px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 400x267px

>these dogs are the same species
Can't explain that

>>39150890

Identical DNA and reproduction, only thing that'a different is adaptations to varying levels of sunlight based on region and IQ.

>>39151006
Because scientists are weird, this is going to have an intervention aspect. As in, "if this person didn't have Down syndrome, then they'd be able to interbreed with other humans." The more direct question is whether sterile/infertile people are human, but again they'll go down the "but for the sterility..." road, because that's how scientists are.

Same species test;
Can a breeding pair create a breadable offspring?

Eg: A horse and donkey breed, create a Mule offspring... Mule is sterile.

Human 'Asian' mates with 'European', creates a 'human child'... child can reproduce. Therefore, same spiecies.

>>39150890
Subspecies would be a more accurate term.

File: 1439843740482.png (334KB, 600x500px) Image search: [Google]

334KB, 600x500px

wow modern science is jewish bullshit, what great news anon!

>you realize that the African girl has been in a tribe all her life
>never used makeup or modern skin care
>still has an attractive exotic face and clear skin
>the white girl has to put on tons of makeup, plastic surgery and photoshop to look average

>>39151247
Gasp, are you saying Africans are intellectually inferior to the whites? what terrible slander, surely you jest
>"Guys should we get sun resistance or Int?" "Get the sun resistance i like to hang outside and do nothing"
And thus the black man was born

File: 1495135076074.png (23KB, 420x300px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 420x300px

>>39150890
Post more freckled red haired green eyed qts

>>39151018
That's not really the definition these days. There are literally thousands of exceptions in plants and animals.

File: IMG_0241.png (203KB, 277x320px) Image search: [Google]

203KB, 277x320px

>>39152600
if the white girl was wearing much makeup at all you wouldn't see her freckles. Also Africans wear fuckloads of makeup, except instead of maybelline from the store they crush stones into dust and mix it with piss or whatever.

>>39152690
Are you kidding?the white girl is wearing tons of makeup and that hair color is not a natural red. Anyone who knows anything about photo editing can see the photo is edited to hell and back. If the black girl lived in modern society she would've be one of those really dark run way models from Africa, she has unique/exotic features.The white girl is just your typical 4chan femanon with dyed hair.

One cat is black and one cat is tan with stripes. Are they different species ?

>>39152743
did she put makeup on around the freckles? Or just apply makeup that matched her skin tone first and then go back and draw each freckle on?

>>39152953
https://youtu.be/9QgPlQM9m1M

File: GuZxC.jpg (788KB, 1024x980px) Image search: [Google]

788KB, 1024x980px

>>39152600
Dont be silly thats not actually a tribal girl. She justs practices her traditions every now and then and goes back to work slaving away in a 9-5 job in whatever Africa city she lives in like all wage fags.

>>39151018
>>39150950
>jackals of different regions can't interbreed
>somehow wolves can mate coyotes
fucking idiots

I believe the official explanation is that human populations are too intermixed and the borders too blurred to make up clear distinctive racial groups. The unofficial explanation is that the existence of race entails unwanted consequences for society.

>>39154133
>existence of race entails unwanted consequences for society
That's just because people of all races are too stupid to handle the truth responsibly
unlike me

>>39150890
Aren't there more genetic differences likely between two people (for example two swedes) then two groups of people nigerians (as a whole), and say anglos?

>>39150890
>>39154173
Even if this was true how would it change things?

>>39150890
They just look alike, genetically they are quite different.
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(15)00787-3.pdf

>>39152476
>Can different species of coyote breed breedable offspring
Yes

>>39154203

This
Alot of DNA is deadweight, the deadweight can match that of someone on the other side of the world. But the ones that are active are the ones that determines the appearance.

>>39154231
that's like saying if evolution is real how would it change things

the truth is the truth and must be acknowledged

>this is how much we can trust science in 2015
yes the idea that there's only one human species came up in 2016

>>39154203
chimps and humans are 99% identical too, but key differences exist

File: 03deceb3d67551fe9dc3d52c85b292e5.jpg (67KB, 644x802px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 644x802px

>>39151072
>Trying to understand something you probably hardly understand by looking at some simple poster looking shit with text.

Those "Golden Jackals" are millions of years apart from each other evolutionary wise. They're distant relatives.

We humans however are not. Reminder humans started turning light skinned only roughly 5000 years ago.

>>39154322
>>39150890
Meant for OP actually.

File: flutesfopuppers.jpg (145KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

145KB, 800x800px

>>39154266
Are you trying to get fired from google?

>>39150890
>This is how much we can trust science
its politics. this has nothing to do with science.

people do trust science too much. its pretty unreliable outside of STEM
theres plenty of room to abuse science to push politics like this

>>39154342
>t. someone who is too dumb to understand genetics

>>39154295
Yes and comparing humans will be >99%

The purpose of separating the animal kingdom is just for classification. Species are sometimes separated by geographic region.
It's just a way of cataloguing started by naturalists a hundred years ago, not a fine science.
We don't seperate humans into separate geographic species, we use ethnicity and nationality instead. Stop being a fucking rube.

>>39151006
Just because it's your son he doesn't have to be your same species, shitlord!

>>39154432
>key differences exist

>>39153962
But viable offspring tho?

File: 1500813172162.jpg (121KB, 1150x382px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 1150x382px

hurhmm

>>39154612
google says coywolves are fertile

>>39150950
There actually isn't a precise and universally applicable definition of "species". It's called the "species problem", look it up.

>>39154242
That pdf doesn't work on my phone

>>39154667
I'm going to be the first (you) (you) get since some dumb /pol/tards will most likely reply to this shitty bait anyway

>>39153855
What do you have against wage fags? At least they have a job.

>>39157928
Self employed master race.

>>39151072
If the two dogs were to fuck the offsprings would be fertile, so they are the same species.

>>39151072
Dogs have been selectively bred by humans over a few thousand years. Meaning that all dogs share a common ancestor that existed about 2000-3000 years ago.

Humans, on the other hand, have been selected naturally over a few hundred thousand years. Meaning that all humans share a common ancestor that existed about 100,000-300,000 years ago. Entirely different species of animals can occur in less time than that.

Just because an animal may look different from members of its own species does not mean it is necessarily a different species. Caucasian dwarves look very different from "normal" Caucasians. Yet they are of the same species.

Black people, Asian people, and white people are clearly of different human sub-species. There is nothing wrong with that. It is unscientific to act as though all humans are of the exact same species.

>>39158767
don't forgot asians, mexicans, and whites are all genetically closer to each other than blacks are to any one of them

Separate species occur when a geographical barrier like a mountain or river, or some mutation in the chromosome happens which means the populations become so isolated they can't reproduce and if they do the offspring is sterile, and since we are not plants that can self fertilize, the factor becomes even more meaningful.

In short, humans are unique from other animals because
>migration
>we like to fuck, very promiscuous
>we can solve problems like building bridges and climbing mountains


So... and Homo sapiens have only been here 500k years, and in that period we have left arenas, gone back, fucked everyone and everything (beastiality was a thing, even in prehistoric times). Also, female mammals are known for having multiple children from multiple male mammals.

But if you'd like to equate yourself with a dog then, k.

>people who use biology to justify racism, but don't know enough about biology to know how species are determined

This is what happens when you drop out of high school and start browsing /pol/.

File: liberal_science.jpg (283KB, 992x1104px) Image search: [Google]

283KB, 992x1104px

This is what liberals seriously believe

>>39158767
What kind of natural selection, exactly? I mean, what kind of extreme trait does a white person have than a black person?

>>39159072
Do you mean traits that make whites better or just different traits?

File: 1473827483724.jpg (5KB, 224x225px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 224x225px

>>39159072
they can hide easier in the snow

>>39159072
Do you mean traits that make whites better or just different traits in general?

>>39159343
Whatever observable trait that are exclusively unique to whites or blacks.

File: crime stats 1.png (30KB, 825x550px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 825x550px

>>39159072
this thing for one

>>39159072
Well black people are black, have flatter noses, have nappy hair, and even smell differently.

Clearly something made whites white, and made blacks black. Probably has a lot to do with the fact that whites are hundreds of thousands of years apart from black people, and the fact that they live in an entirely different part of the world.

You could ask the same question of horses and zebra. What "natural selection" makes a horse a horse, and a zebra a zebra? It's complicated.

The point is that there is no reasonable scientific basis to say that whites and blacks are the same exact species. They are sub-species of humans. There is nothing wrong with that.

>>39159375
>DURR ALL HUMANS ARE HOMO SAPIENS
So what? Dogs and humans are both mammals, but that does not mean they are the exact same species. "Homo sapien" is a species that harbours distinct sub-species.

>>39150890
Yeah it's all based on whether they can have fretile children or not

>>39160188
this is not how it's determined because there are multiple tiger, lion, and wolf species

>studies have shown that most of the variability in white people's IQ is due to genetics
>when niggers have double-digit IQs, people blame society

Ahh so it's genetic when it affects whitey... but when it's the nigger it's because of their environment. Ahh

File: Very distinct beverages.jpg (258KB, 588x768px) Image search: [Google]

258KB, 588x768px

>>39150890
Varsha is the Goddess.

>>39150950

yes, but africans, asians, and europeans are from vastly different environments and are the result of natural selection acting upon them for thousands of years in said environment

naturally speaking, if humans didn't have travel, there would be no way to avoid the subspecies question of the human race

in biology they are willing to call species separate when they no longer breed and start to drift genetically from each other

that said, it often arises from geographic separation, many things that we consider to be different species could interbreed and produce viable offspring, but don't because they're actually limited by nature

besides the geographic separation, and as a result of it, these species become more acclimated to where they are living, it would be a bad idea to interbreed in the while if the opportunity arose because the offspring would have a lower chance of being well acclimated to its habitat

anyone with an understanding of genetics and biology and who isn't being censored by PC police would acknowledge that the different human races are in fact relatively distinct

>>39163164
But aren't those fundamentally different beverages

>>39163268
The African Golden Jackal and the Eurasian Golden Jackal look the same, but are separate species.
Pure water and a solution of hydrogen peroxide in water look the same, but are separate compounds.

European humans and African humans look different, but can interbreed without problems.
Orange juice and blood-orange juice look different, but can be mixed and drunk together without problems.

>>39154432

yep, but that percent actually varies depending on the races being compared

there is fundamental DNA that is required for organisms to be able to function, I think humans even share like 60% DNA with corn

small differences mean everything

race is manifestly not just the level of melanin in the skin, there are morphological differences, developmental differences, all sorts of things, no doubt behavioral and intellectual differences as well

for example, blacks have a much higher rate of twins than any other race, and also tend to give birth earlier than the other races

obviously this is r-selective, but being r-selective for thousands of years in africa brought about these trends

>>39160146
>"Homo sapien" is a species that harbours distinct sub-species.
You mean...ethnicities.

>>39150950

Explain Mules and Ligers then you fucking mong

>>39163535
I mean... subspecies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies

>>39163608
Ethnicity and race are already enough. Why bring in this whole "subspecies" shit to it.

>>39150890
what does it matter to you. you are on r9k and you are probably so fucking ugly that no one would consider u part of the human species too

Classifying things as separate 'species' is hard in the first place. Read Jerry Coyne's Speciation.

You could reasonably make the case that even archaic humans like Neanderthals should be considered part of our 'species'.

Also in particular, exterrnal phenotypical differences like in OP (especially in golden jackals as if most people can tell those apart!) are a very small part of overall genetic variation so it's a little bit dumb. It's how you end up with those 'no blue eyes, no white' memes.

>>39163643
Ethnicity isn't a purely biological entity. In all ethnies, at least some members are closer to outsiders than their own. It's a cultural-social-biological entity you could say.

>>39163608
Hence why I also said "race". Duh.

Race is analogous to breeds in dogs

>>39163643
>>39163765
"Race" and "ethnicity" are social constructs (not trying to sound like an SJW, here, but they are).

There is no "race" or "ethnicity" in taxonomy. An animal either belongs to a species, or it belongs to a subspecies.

You've got kingdoms, phylums, clades, classes, orders, suborders, infraorders, families, genera, species, and subspecies.

Sure, "race" and "ethnicity" may sound more appealing. I definitely think it makes more sense to call black people "ethnic Africans" rather than "a slightly different species". But when you look at the science, "ethnicity" has more to do with a difference in species than it does a slight difference in skin color.

For example, European and Asian people are genetically around 6% Neanderthal. Neanderthals are a different species to homo sapiens. That means that if you take an ethnic European, and an ethnic African, they are AT LEAST 6% of a different species. That is more than enough to classify Europeans and Africans as different subspecies. If you took a dog, and you bred it with a coyote so that it was 94% domestic dog, 6% coyote, a taxonomist would classify that animal as a different subspecies to a dog.

There is nothing racist about this, either. It means that Africans are "more human" than Europeans.

File: neanderthal-human-relations.jpg (54KB, 786x500px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 786x500px

>>39163888
Sorry fuckface, but it isn't. yuropoors and chinks are not of the same subspecies as wogs and abbos.

See
>>39158767

>>39163972
I have no clue what this means. 'Wogs' (Middle Easterners? Indians?) are more genetically related to Europeans than East Asians are because they share a lot of common, recent ancestry.

Actually Papuans are probably a bit genetically closer to Han Chinese than most Europeans too since they share a lot of the same Eastern Eurasian ancestry before drifting apart.

Han Chinese - French Fst: 0.622
Han Chinese - Papuan Fst: 0.620
French - Papuan Fst: 0.660

Not a perfect measure but overall shows what I said.

>>39154322
this desu

our common ancestor isn't that many generations ago

we're all basically 50th cousins at most

>>39163938
Well actually, If blacks have the aggressive animal gene and no neanderthal blood while we do, it makes them not human. You're right, you just reversed it so it was nonsensical.

File: 5314626.jpg (33KB, 262x300px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 262x300px

Racism is a sign of low intellect.
It's why /pol/ is only capable of conveying """information""" via youtuber quotes and 4chan infographics.

>>39150950
No. You have to look at the barriers to reproduction. They're may not be mechanical or cellular barriers of reproduction, but we do technically have behavioral barriers and used to have geographical barriers.

File: blackcrime.jpg (314KB, 616x2030px) Image search: [Google]

314KB, 616x2030px

>>39165064
that would explain why niggers are racist ...

>>39150890
Orange cat vs a grey cat
not even a liberal and still explained it to you

>>39150950
By that logic polar bears are the same species as brown bears and coyotes are the same species as wolves

>>39165495

Are you racist?
If not explain why and use the definition of racist to justify your answer.

>>39163567
>viable offspring
Mules and ligers are sterile.

>>39166175
i could say that yeah im racist cuz ive seen them doing shaddy shit here
t. a mestizo living in chile

File: 655px-Peacock_courting_peahen.jpg (151KB, 655x600px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 655x600px

>>39150890
>Whaddaya mean they're the same species? They look different!

>>39150890
If they can mate and produce offspring that can mate and have offspring, then they're the same species. A hybrid of two species is sterile and cannot reproduce.

>>39159072
Geographical factors, available diet, weather extremities, etc.

For examples, whites can drink dairy because they have relied on it for thousands of years. Asians can't fuck with dairy because their genetics aren't used to it.

File: the so called, american phenotype .jpg (513KB, 2048x1536px) Image search: [Google]

513KB, 2048x1536px

>>39150950
fpbp, as usual

/pol/ trash BTFO

>>39167679
>not a single girl

I would not call half caste niggers viable, maybe volatile.

xD

>>39165064

you must be a NAZI then.

>>39150950
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_hybrid

>>39151006
Can he breed with other downies and not humans? Then no. If he can't breed with anyone he is just infertile

File: Y8sZ83G.png (117KB, 1047x625px) Image search: [Google]

117KB, 1047x625px

it's only a matter of time before this thread gets moved to pol

File: 1440766031940.png (622KB, 1043x885px) Image search: [Google]

622KB, 1043x885px

Due to thousands of years of breeding, certain dog breeds have on average more strength or more intelligence than other dog breeds.

>okay, nothing wrong with this :)

Due to thousands of years of evolution in different parts of the world, certain groups of humans have on average more strength or more intelligence than other groups of humans.

>... RACIST!!!!!!

>>39169837
People also call for the end of pitbulls because of their violent nature.

>>39154203
There's more height difference between a tall and a short guy than between the average man and woman but that doesn't mean that men aren't taller then women

>>39169837
Focused, artificial selection =/= Random, natural selection

>>39160146
>and even smell differently
do you not know what cocoa butter is?

>>39151006
How can you be so fucking retarded? Is a downsindrome tiger a tiger? Dumbass. Just because It has a mutation doesn't make it different species.

>>39170711
yeah that's why you can only speak in averages with humans whereas you can make more general statements on dog breeds

you can say that no chihuahua has the mental capacity to herd sheep, unlike border collies

but of humans you can only say that those of african descent have a lower average IQ and a higher propensity to commit violence and lack empathy, you can't make statements about individuals since it's possible they are in the higher percentiles

>>39163938
There are Sub-Saharan Africans with neanderthal DNA though. Africans have the lowest % of Neanderthal DNA, but it's not completely missing from every person except for maybe a few small ethnic groups like pygmy.

>>39164976
>aggressive animal gene

You mean the warrior gene? Something that is found in whites as well? It's just more common in blacks.

File: 2.png (144KB, 172x420px) Image search: [Google]

144KB, 172x420px

>>39170772
but scientists say we evolved from apes,via mutation

>>39170711
still does not disprove his point on the sensitivity of society when it comes to race relations.

you just pointed out that selective breeding and natural breeding are not the same.

File: 1503006175191.png (2MB, 667x638px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 667x638px

>>39151072
Thhey are grouped into the same category though.


Wolves, jackals and coyotes are canines.


Racoons, polar bears, grizzlies are bears


Lions, jaguars and house cats are still feline.


Black, asian and Hispanics are human. And white people are... white people.

>>39170846
Retardo spotted.

One mutation that can happen by the next generation is different than multiple multiple generations that happen in a span of million years. Remember, many mutations over millions of years could possibly result in a different species. One mutation received by one individual money in the span of 1 generation does not.

The thing that really bothers me is how anything short of being a hyper cuck liberal is considered bei nazi racist these days. There was a guy in CNN saying "we shouldn't tear down these statues of confederate civil war generals" And there was two black guys just belittling him and called him a racist