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What are your thoughts on the semantics, theological implications, and emergence of waifuism in modern times, and analogues to similar anomalies in past times, such as Nikola Tesla, who fell in love with a pigeon. I am sure there are other documented cases of this behavior, though with the omission of hip otaku lingo. If there's anyone who I think would give serious cogitation and elucidate their hypotheses at length, it'd be "Anonymous" on ROBOT9001. Why not? This could be the gateway to opening up a brand new field of study.
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I think most wear it as a fashion item but I'm unironically in love with a fictional character.
People are just perception and ideas so there isn't anything to out of it to love and know something that is fictional.
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I'm not sure what to think of the whole waifuism thing but I too am in love with a fictional character, however it's a kick in the bollocks when I think that she would probably disgusted with me if she was real.
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I also love a fictional character and it fills both my religion hole and my love hole
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>>39131669
Tesla's love for his pigeon wife isn't comparable because it was a relationship with a creature who could love back. It was likely real and meaningful considering Tesla was an autist and pigeons have only one relationship mode: Absolute monogamous dedication.
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>>39131862
>>39132083
>>39132395
please share your wives
how did they end up in your lives? did they find you or vice versa?
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>>39133528
absoIute delusion
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waifuism has been dead for a couple years now
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Not a new phenonemon, just the medium through which waifus are acquired changes and is more varied than before.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_(mythology)
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>>39135080
Tell yourself that while you hug a lifeless body pillow. Tesla was at least better than that.
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>>39135411
Is this a statue of a guy loving a statue?

Statue-ception?
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>>39131669
>not just falling in love with yourself
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>>39135411

This. Way, way back when I was just a kid; I had a nearly obsessive crush on a drawn girl from a series of French children's books.
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>>39135592
A statue of a guy loving a statue based off a myth where a sculptor creates a woman so beautiful he prays to the gods that she would come alive and the gods grant his wishes.

No purer love than that, a creator and his creation.
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>>39135516
loloI sure he was buddy
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>>39136442
>Wiafu
>Can't real
>Doesn't love back
>Bring in public: People call you a hopeless loser
>Have to share with others who have the same wiafu

>Pigeon
>Is real
>Loves only you
>Bring in public: People are amused, surprised or interested
>Never have to share with anyone.

Hmm.
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>>39136938
>t. Tesla
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>>39136973
>t. Weeaboo
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>>39137001
cute 2D girls > disgusting filthy pigeons
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>>39135411
my favorite myth. I first read the myth in Ovid's Metamorphoses during freshman year and I related to Pygmalion so much. It was frankly quite embarrassing when the class talked about it afterwards and I wouldn't shut up about it.
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>>39137016
Symbols of peace, prosperity and love > Manchild drawings

Heros of WWII who fought hard to deliver life saving messages from the front lines > The result of nuclear fallout on Japan's culture
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In the short term, waifuism is ok, it's fun to have fantasies and ideas in your head about a fictional character, but in the end you're only going to get hurt.

As >>39136938 pointed out the obvious, she's not real, can't love you or do anything for you really, it's just you and your fantasies/delusion, and no matter how hard you commit to figurines, images, body pillows and more, it's only going to make the delusion much stronger in the end and won't make her any more real

I would know, I've had one for 1 year.
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>>39137374
pigeons =/= doves

>manchild drawings

Many, many women draw hentai/character designs in anime
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>>39137407
>pigeons =/= doves
Boy are you retarded. The pigeons that walk around in cities are Rock Doves. The names are interchangeable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbidae

>Women draw anime
I was referring to the target demographic. Sorry for the ambiguity.
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>>39137661
Pigeons are filthy flying rats
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>>39137678
They are numerous because of dumb humans feeding them, and because of human waste. They don't invade your home, go through your cabinets, and infest your pets with fleas. They nibble bread and seeds people drop and make cute noises. They aren't filthy either. Wild pigeons are no dirtier than sparrows finches and jays.

Get a better argument.
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>>39137797
Pigeons don't have oppai, therefore they are inferior to even 2D women.

I win.
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>>39137955
You can't use tits to fly, and you can't fly with heavy, inefficient fat sacks hanging off your body.
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>>39138378
Why should they fly?
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How does someone rationalize being seriously attracted to a fictional character?
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>>39138385
Flying is awesome. Winged women are sexy, but impractical. Too much weight.
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>>39138411
there isn't anything that isn't fiction
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thoughtforms ain't fuckin around
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"Waifuism" is the same thing as falling in love with a girl/woman, only directed at an anime/etc. character. There's nothing complicated about it.

Most people are just being ironic or trying to fit in (with everyone else just trying to fit in) or think a waifu is a character to masturbate to. Very few people actually have a waifu despite claiming to have one.

>>39137661
Women are also a target demographic of anime.
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>>39131669
>theological implications
what the fuck, you mean like forming a religion where you sacrifice animals to your waifu?
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>>39131669

Waifuism is an opportunity to express one's urges for romantic love and affection within the confines of one's internal world without facing the dangers, liabilities and shortcomings of limerence as projected onto another real person in real life.

It is the cure to oneitis, beta-ism, puppy love, infatuation, teenage irrationality, and a host of other socio-emotional issues that have been plaguing the youthful and immature segments of the population since the emergence of our species.

Also I believe waifus correspond to the Jungian categories of the Anima (such as Helena and Sophia).

I would also like to point out a possible Feuerbachian interpretation of waifuism, in that attraction to waifus is not actually an attraction to a non-existing person with a fictional, unrealistic personality (as detractors are wont to criticise), but rather a "girl-shaped" framework for a potentially limitless collective of male creators and consumers to project and comment on the full spectrum of the most desirable and valuable qualities of humankind.
This interpretation also allows a therapeutic and psychotherapeutic application of waifuism, within which waifus can be created to reflect and represent certain emotional issues and insecurities a person may be facing, in a safe, imaginary virtual environment, allowing for a person to confront and work through emotional issues in one's own time and space.
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http://www.dailyom.com/cgi-bin/display/librarydisplay.cgi?lid=511

Take this with a grain of salt. I was trying to find something from a book of hers (SYLVIA) where she tells a story of a little girl imagining a monster into existence, a hellish grey demonic thing that appears at her window. But this will do for now.
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>>39138631
you're bretty gul
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>>39138486
>Women are also a target demographic
So? Women with wiafus are womanchildren. Doesn't really roll off the tongue though. Using manchildren for both is fine by me.
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>>39135668
Fucking patrician taste my friend
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>>39139015
You just want to attack men exclusively.
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>>39139032
>not just respectfully declining duality and realizing you are all and all are you
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>>39131669
>such as Nikola Tesla, who fell in love with a pigeon.
You can't compare waifuism to that. His love for an animal is like the love for a family member.
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>>39138411
You imagine them being real. It might be weird for an outsider but for me it's completely normal to cuddle my waifu and talk to her.
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>>39139056
You got me. I'll go back to Tumblr now.
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I have a specific mindset that whenever I do anything at all, I quickly think of all the people who are able to process me doing it and what they all would think of me. When it's something like professing my love for a fictional character on my private vent ig acc, I usually just force myself to post it because that's what my thoughts were, and I know that all of my close friends will definitely see me differently. Most of them are in a relationship already and they probably won't see me as anything more than a disattached creep, but I'm more than willing to stand up to the shame of it.
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>>39131669
I keep asking myself if I would enjoy my life more if I stopped thinking so hard and adopted a waifu, but I don't think it would work as well since I went from "crazy annoying ridiculous" autist to "does this have any other facial expression/emotion" autist and also have a disdain for weebs.
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>>39140151
You cannot choose who your waifu is anymore than you can choose who you love
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I've heard that we never really love anyone, just the idea of the person. If that's the case, waifuism is just cutting out the middleman. Instead of falling in love with the concept of a person, you can just fall in love with a concept directly.

And yes, I do have a waifu for whom I feel the same way I've felt for past romantic partners.
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>>39138631
>It is the cure to oneitis
Nope, I have a waifu and am on year 11 of oneitis. My love for my limerent objects just coexists.
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>>39140358

Exactly this.

I would like to go one further and propose that waifuism is in fact a form of bonding with the creator of the character as well.

When you appreciate a character created by someone else, you are by association appreciating the creator's tastes, values, desires and ideals. You are finding something in common with another person.
The creator projects his ideal self onto his characters. The waifu acts as a middleman between you and the creator: instead of communicating and socialising with the creator's real self, which is essentially imperfect and limited, you are associating with variations of his ideal self. The creator's waifu acts as his avatar in a sense, and other people can then express appreciation for it -- by adopting the waifu, they make that avatar theirs as well. They form a virtual bond through common association with a character which acts as a link between them. They can even communicate through the character, and, as >>39138457 mentioned, eventually create a though-form which represents their shared ideals.

You could say it is a way of communicating with only the best aspects of another person.
In my opinion this might in fact be the primary function of all art.
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>>39138411
>How does someone rationalize being seriously attracted to __________

Always a loaded question. I mean how does one prove their attraction towards something?
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>>39140465

Like >>39140358 said, we don't experience infatuation with an actual person, but rather the idea of another person, our own internal conception, the Lacanian category of the "virtual real".
Waifus show you don't even need the person, just the idea.
As you said: your limerence for the idea of the real person co-exists with your infatuation with the idea of the waifu character.
Waifus are therapeutic in the sense that that they allow a person to realise that their infatuation is directed at something that exists inside their head, and that all positive emotions related to that phenomenon are also created by/in the mind.

I believe that through waifuism people can learn to explore, understand and take control of their limerence through virtual interactions with it in their own mind. This would allow a person in the long run to avoid/cure oneitis through self-understanding. Think of it as a kind of self-indulgent meditation. Or perhaps mindful self-indulgence.
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>>39140931

>"virtual real"

sorry, I mean "imaginary real". Wrong term.
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