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Suffer,is good.Without suffer,we become "dumb",we become one of the masses.We need to suffer to reach some wisdom.

With suffering we see the true nature of things,what things really are,not how should be.

The bad of normalfags is that how they never suffered,they see the world being a good place to be,they see life as good and as a gift,what's an illusion.

Even if we are profoundly sad,we can boast ourselves of that,that we see the world how he really is,how the human being really is,how life,really is.

We're closer to the truth than them,my fellow robots.
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Fuck off, Griffith.
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>>39068533
On a scale of 1-10 how euphoric would you rate yourself?
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>>39068588
5/10

>tips fedora

Fuck you.
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I think the same thing
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Bump

spoiler
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>>39068533
>not realising that the level of suffering you perceive to face is all down to the levels of suffering you've faced before
>not realising that normies perceive their suffering to be of the same level as we do our own suffering, and therefore they perceive the same level of self-enlightenment as we do after it as well
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>>39068691
good taste
comment wasn't original
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1. Life is meaningless, but in a good way.

2. There is nothing that is right or wrong in this world. Only facts can be right, but they are neither good or bad.

3. Life is so simply. All you have to do is to live. We complicate everything and make it bad.

4. The universe is in our cells and our cells are the universe

5. Inequality only exist because of civillization

6. We can't achive happiness, it's just an illusion

7. Success and failure is the same thing
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>>39069335
>There is nothing that is right or wrong in this world
tell that to people who get tortured
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>>39068533
Suffering is bad because the only reason you must suffer is that you are unfortunate to exist in the first place. Being alive is incredibly bad
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>>39070832
>Being alive is incredibly bad
i have to agree with this
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>>39069335
>Success and failure is the same thing
>Life is meaningless, but in a good way.
Could you explain?
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Money isn't that important and nice things aren't that expensive.
Humans excavating the earth for minerals is part of the natural process and killing our own planet will propel us towards space travel, culminating in the exponential growth of humans in the universe and forever securing our existence.

im not incredibly philosophical.
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>>39068691
this is disgusting

why would you have such an image saved on your phone?
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BIG SPARKS BUDDY
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kay lemme try to contribute

I dont have any profound thoughts and never heard of any I would truly call profound

philosophy is bullshit. the only thing that matters is reality
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>>39071879
>kill yourself
if only I had the guts to do so
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Deep space travel is a meme in humanity's case. We may be scientifically adept, but our faults are many. We'd become extinct in the vastness of the void.
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>>39068533
You'd like Nietzsche a lot, he has very similar views to yours. Try reading Beyond Good and Evil.
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>>39068533
Death is life's greatest joy, its affirmation.
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>>39071892
Philosophy is pertinent to what is real.
To call philosophy useless is to be some sort of boringshit normie who is frightened by things he can't fully understand.
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>>39070832
>bad
The concepts of "bad" or "good" don't exist.
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>>39071892
Philosophy is a luxury and wont help you survive so you aren't wrong.
Though philosophy is thinking about reality so i don't see the disinterest
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>>39071892
>the only thing that matters is reality

That's literally why philosophy exists. If you read a page or two from Kant you'd know the difference between your essential reality and the thing in itself, you dumb cunt.
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>>39071964
Abstract as they may they still exist in the mind of man; which is why they're called concepts. Whether they have any base in reality is a different matter.
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>>39072022
fucking kant
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>>39072022
Jokes on you, I tried to read Kant but i'm genuinely not smart enough to understand it, couldn't make sense of it desu lad.
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>>39068533
The idea of Good vs Evil can simply be boiled down to a battle of construction and deconstruction. Most likely this comes from man's view of himself compared to a wild beast.
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>>39069335
>Life is meaningless, but in a good way.
Prove it, where did you get this godly knowledge from?

>3. Life is so simply. All you have to do is to live. We complicate everything and make it bad.
Middle school tier philosophy

>The universe is in our cells and our cells are the universe
What did he mean by this?

>Inequality only exist because of civillization
The concept of inequality will never cease to exist as long as non consensual conception exists.

>We can't achive happiness, it's just an illusion
Happiness is a subjective term.

>Success and failure is the same thing
????
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>>39072041
That's fair middle ground, I agree.
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>>39072082
>>The universe is in our cells and our cells are the universe
>What did he mean by this?
I understood it as in the beginning we're all made of the same matter and we'll eventually revert back to that state of formless matter.
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>>39072073
read Kierkegaard
true patrician philosophy
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>>39072073
Maybe try Sartre, he's kind of like beginner tier Kant.
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>>39068533
The American leftists and right-wingers are now locked in a death struggle that will end in the death of one of our major parties before it's all over, and the right will lose since it refuses to act.
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>>39068533
>we become one of the masses
I hate this type of thought, it's so narcissistic and holier-than-thou that it makes me sick, as if you're the only one who thinks you're not like the others, as if everyone hasn't had the same exact thoughts, as if you're one of the only ones who truly "get it". You're a human being, you eat, you shit, you bleed when cut, you die when stabbed, you go through the motions of life just like everyone else does.

Your generalizations are as "profund" as the shit I took this morning and I didn't even take a shit this morning.
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>>39071929
Oh,thanks.His only books that i've did read was The Gay Science(i own a physical copy)and Thus Spoke Zaratustra.
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>>39072125
My guy tbqh familia. Maintain faith above everything.
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>>39072068
>Kant Basically
huh the intention is what matters xdD
:)))
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>>39072148
>Zarathustra*
Fix'd
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>>39072168
I only like Kant's metaphysical theories on the concept of reality, not his ethical stances.
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>>39068533
>how life,really is
life is what you make of it pal
It is not suffering that makes you wise
It is understanding the meaninglessness of suffering
And you can do that without having to suffer
You suffering was never necessary
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>>39072236
>life is what you make of it pal
The sad thing is that you can't choose what you make of it, your surroundings, your upbringing and your perception have all been chosen for you.
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>>39071964
That which has disutility is bad in the truest sense
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>>39072236
>suffering is never necessary
But without suffering we stay in our comfort zone.Why would i think that life is meaningless and a punishment if i'm a millionaire?
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Life must have meaning, for it is impossible to live as if it does not. You are constantly choosing to do whatever it is you are doing in each moment, and every choice necessarily presupposes that existence is in some way worthwhile, and therefore meaningful.
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In all things,be Exact.

Hit the mark squarely,find the right words for your ideas,be precise in action and conception of action. Then anything you do will have merit,and be respected.
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>>39072304
>Why would i think that life is meaningless and a punishment if i'm a millionaire?
This is a dumb thing to say, most people in the first world live lives thousands times better than how royalty lived just a few centuries ago.
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>>39072382
>most people in the first world live lives thousands times better than how royalty lived just a few centuries ago
Of who the fuck you're talkin about?The middle class?
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>>39072424
>Of who the fuck you're talkin about?
Most people in the first world. I said this.
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>>39072453
Well,i got it.

> lives thousands times better than how royalty lived just a few centuries ago.

But this still a wrong statement.
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>>39072484
I don't know, having stable access to modern healthcare, porn, and marijuana sounds way better than being a king who dies at 40 of a horrible infection or poisoning back in the 1600s. Fuck that time. Shit sucked back then.
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>>39068533
To articulate this more, I remember in some Sam Hyde video he was talking about how you can't really be a good person until you've had some kind of trauma in your life. And I think there's some truth to that idea.

It's very easy to tell the difference between people who have had it comparatively easy and people who have had something fucked up happen to them at some point. I find my intuition about new people is usually correct in that department. The former type are usually more shallow and a lot less empathetic and thoughtful, to varying degrees.
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The virtuous, the prideful legion to one. An ebbing green pulse flashing red in intervals, its color a frequency shift into ours -- always darker than before. It defined normality, laid tribunal to the judicial, it became instinct to the progeny. Those that deviated from the curve, that grew out of line, were whipped back into expected range. Only mediocrity remained, and any who strayed were stamped like ants. Forgotten, crushed, every last piece torn and reduced to a mockery.
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>>39072501
Of course is better,but you statement is wrong because you're comparing things that are totally different.

Of course someone who lives in the 21 century has better life than who lives in the 18th century.We have more products to buy,we have computers,we can travel to another countries in an stupid slice of time.
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>>39072304
You believe in the misconception that rich people who get laid all the times are all happy optimistic people
It's not always the case
I agree that too much comfort often leads to being oblivious to reality
But it is in human nature to feel like shit
We're all affected by bad thoughts
Finding means to get rid of bad thoughts with positive thinking is the ticket to happiness and understanding,
engulfing yourself in bad thoughts won't do any good
nor trying to buy your way out of them with materialistic possesions

>>39072289
You can choose to change the way you see yourself in it and your perception of everything else will shift
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>>39072585
>but your statement*

>Of course someone who lives in the 21 century has a better life*
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Arbeit DOES macht frei
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>>39072501
Just access to clean water, fast transportation, FDA approved food and meds, plumbing, air conditioning/cheap plug in fans and refrigeration are fucking luxuries. The internet alone is more shit than the average aristocrat or scholar could even dream of back then.

Most people couldn't even afford horses back then.
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There are brief flashes where I try to do good, but then there are periods where I am consumed by my delusions and cannot tell what is real or not. The demons rejoice as they gilde my thoughts, because they are aware of how fucked up I am. Go to work, decipher the character I have been playing; let dread well into every recess beaten into submission. Reality sets, the world narrows, and my vision clears.
I am a living conflict -- a person who has lived twice, many times over.
I fragment from the puppet and diverge, forcefully pulled from reality and placed into theirs. My very presence is unknown, invisible to everyone including myself.
When I crack, only violence. Implicitly empty.
Then, I am divisible only to 1.
Anxiety doesn't chase, mutualibility is my nature. Cold and calculated, like my number.
There is no pain.
No hate.
I take breath to please. Everything he says is perfect, the act is flawless and chaste.
It's what we want.
My shadow is generous, has always given me the coat to wear, has mended those that needed stitching. Most of them were used, the fit loose, others were uncomfortable and left to dry.
Never fold the coat he gives you. Accept your self, love the few who straggle along. Waive those who stand behind.
Become my shadow.
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>>39072701
u r gey and u stink
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>>39072585
You aren't actually saying why it's different, before this post we've already established that you think the statement is wrong and a false equivalence without giving any reason as to why you think that.

I would say that it isn't false equivalence, the life of a king, prince, duke, earl etc. was marked by comfort, or at least more comfort than almost any commoner. It's reasonable to think that someone would say "Well if I had as lavish and as comfortable life as a king then I'd be happy", well most first worlders have what that specific peasant wanted and a thousand times more but we're still saying the same thing. Which has to make you think that maybe it isn't what you have, but instead your state of mind.

tl;dr Diogenes is the only philosopher worth a damn.
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>>39072835
>You aren't actually saying why it's different, before this post we've already established that you think the statement is wrong and a false equivalence without giving any reason as to why you think that.
But i said that the statement is wrong EXACTLY because is comparing totally differents.

>You aren't actually saying why it's different

>We have more products to buy,we have computers,we can travel to another countries in an stupid slice of time
?????

And we have more opportunities too.
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>>39072835
>also

>it's reasonable to think that someone would say "Well if I had as lavish and as comfortable life as a king then I'd be happy", well most first worlders have what that specific peasant wanted and a thousand times more but we're still saying the same thing.

Because the human being never is satisfied,we always want more,and is normal to think like that.Individuals' desires are changing constantly.
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>>39072920
Kings lived comfortable lives, we live much more comfortable lives. I'm comparing levels of comfort not frogs and spaghetti like you seem to think.
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>>39072701
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Think of that,Anon.
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>>39073020
Keep your stick on the ice
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>>39072987
I would argue that's because we look at our neighbor(or an idea of them) when we should be looking at our ancestors. We open Facebook(well normies do) when we should be opening history and philosophy books and learning how we're forming the wrong ideas about how we should be perceiving our lives and our metrics for success and happiness.
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>>39073130
The human being has never-engind seek to happiness because happiness doesn't exist as a "eternal" concept.Someone who's happy,is only happy in that only moment of euphoria,he never is happy til he die.That's why he seek never-endingly things to kept him 'happy".
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>>39073287
>The human being has a never-ending seek to happiness*
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>>39073287
When I say happy, I mean content, which is more than achievable in the long term. I admit now that happiness is generally defined as a reactionary and transient emotion like rage. You're not always going to be happy or enraged but you can stay reasonably content with the right mindset.
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Welcome to Zen Bhuddism, OP.

To suffer is to be human. Without suffering, we do not understand happiness. Life is finite, existence is finite. The only certainty we have is that we are all heading to the grave. In this finite existence, attachment and desires lead to suffering. Fullfill your desires and you only end up wanting more. Leave them unfullfilled and they will make your suffer. To let go is to be free.

However, suffering is inevitable. To resist suffering, to try to eliminate it is to hold on to it. All things must be allowed to pass without holding on to them, so it is with pain also. Minimize your attachment to things, people and sentiments and detach yourself from your desire to eleminate sadness and you shall find the way to self-contentment.
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>>39072146
People are not all alike. Some people think more deeply about things than do others.
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