ITT: characters normies can't understand

>>39043610
every normie identifies as holden at some point in their adolescence. you're not special kiddo

I hated holden even more than I hated myself.

>>39043730
Personally, I liked Holden.

I didn't consider him very relatable to me, bc he had a gf, younger siblings, and basically unlimited freedom.

However, he did have to face off against degeneracy, so I can at least relate to that aspect of him.

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>>39043783
Whoops. Forgot to include this picture.

>>39043610
He raped his sister Phoebe.

>>39043815
No he didn't. All he did was pinch her ass, you lying cunt.

>>39043610
oh fuck off. this is probably bait but I'll take it. There's nothing to understand about him. the book is a beacon for edgy teens who (are) very much normies.

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>>39043610
oats pig

>>39043610
every normie I met in school read it and loved holden
I thought he was a cunt.

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Ignatius over Holden any day

Me. In a quite original way.

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punpun
fucking oreganofhrvhrhvgetvgtr

>>39045788
good taste and nice dubs

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>>39043610
D-Fens / William Foster from Falling Down

>>39043681
ur dumb
when i was in school every kid hated holden
i was just indifferent him, the only 1 without a negative opinion

holden had friends and a caring family

>>39043610
I would really like to see a full character breakdown of holden from /r9k/
Never fully knew how to interpret the character

>>39047032
anecdotal evidence is fun

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>>39043610
Jamie Lannister

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Nakamura Sawa is the female Holden Caulfield

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>[Home] starts playing

>>39043610
ITT: teens with depression caused by first-world-problems accuse the literature of a traumatized WWII vet who has seen real shit of being edgy and fo normies.

Protip: Normies base their opinion of Holden solely on the opinion of the alpha-normies, and those in turn decide whether they like the novel based on wether they see themselves as artsy or not, not based on whether they understand the actual story.

>>39047867
Jaime transformed into good guy greg, no doubt, but he's also completely normie-material and doesn`t qualify.

>>39047028
This.
The only right answer in this thread.

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>>39043610
Everyone seems to laugh at Theon like he's a joke but his story is quite sad if you actually pay attention to it.

I generally find him quite relatable other then the fact he dosnet have a dick

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>>39048000
this game ruined my mood too many times yet i still play it to this day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go6po2Za_18

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>>39043610
Dr. Manhattan
also this is a very original answer

>>39048318
I don't understand how people can shit on him so hard.
He made mistakes and payed an insanely high price yet he still gets caught a coward and useless.
Most people would be completely broken if they experienced what he experienced.

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>>39048350
Being Jacket is suffering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpRUKLKCY-w

>>39048318
Well you don't get to use yours so might as well not have it.

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>>39048434
I know right
If I said abruptly
"Why isn't Sansa over that rape yet" I would be crucified
He did bad things in the past but just like Jamie he is making up for it

And his escape in episode two got him a lot of flak yet people's reaction to Jamie and bronn in episode 4 is "why didn't they run away?"

I think it Mabey how the show comes across on television but the books give so much sympathy for the charecters.

>>39048547
Feelsbadman.jpg

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Normies will never understand my chinese animes

>>39048612
>goes through extreme torture
>mentally broken to the point of becoming someone else
>in a boat surrounded by death and fire
>PTSD attack
>"OMG WHY DID HE JUMP WHAT A COWARD"

fucking normies man, no compassion at all.

>>39047757
You don't even have that. You have no evidence at all

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>>39047032
This.

Normies fucking hate him

>>39048701
To appeal to normies charecters have to be heroic to the point their suicidaly or retarded.
>citation
>Jon snow

>>39048000
Richter did nothing wrong

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>>39048374
So is Rorschach. He may be edgy as fuck, but he definitely captures that spirit of despising degenerates all while being a degenerate himself.

>>39044834
It's uncanny to read this book and compare Ignatius written back then way before internet to the average 4chan user today.

holden was fucking shit. he is such a whiney unrelatable bitch

>>39048807
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/weekinreview/21schuessler.html

original

>>39043610
This is one of the very few "classic" books that I thought was worth reading when I was in HS

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>Despises wordly pleasure, thinks it's degenerate
>Is a Catholic just because the idea of hell gives him comfort, doesn't think there's a hell awaiting anyone
>Looks down on the droves of normies (tourists) with their petty needs
>Traumatised by his parents having sex
>Thinks all women are stupid whores
>Even when one comes onto him he cares so little he just wants her to kill herself
>Father figure is a mob boss
>When he gets ratted out he tries to fill his shoes, even though the mob is reduced to three other guys, one of whom he despises for being a normie
>Autistic about details, usually ends up being right because of this
>Police basically tell him to go get cut up
>Rich as shit fat chad who rules society calls him an idiot
>Got the shit kicked out of him in public for not kneeling to him
>Almost had sex once, thought it was disgusting
>Brought down by an obnoxious Stacy who just wanted to fuck and drink who hated him because "oh no you're bullying this poor innocent girl muh Fred"
>Normies just go "Oh wow he called her a bitch and doesn't like athiests what a backwards little boy!"

Pinkie is a version of Holden with actual problems and who isn't a pissy little rich boy that can't accept that he's shallow

>>39048927
Forgot to add that his problems could have been solved by literally anybody actually caring about his feelings, rather than continuing to despise him for being unproductive scum of society (like NEETs), nevermind the fact he's just a 17 year old who was never given a chance in life. Then as soon as he's driven to kill somebody, something he doesn't want to do, suddenly he's an extremely evil person who deserves to have acid thrown in his face, be thrown off a cliff, and drown.

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The protagonist of Pic related.
Also, Meursault from The Stranger

>>39048098
No one said it's bad, but it's a fact normies like him. When we had to read it for school, every teacher was saying how kids always like the book and relate to him, and that's how it went.

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David
origanio

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He was truly the brightest soul.

Like Jesus he was met with nothing but opposition.

any school shooter character and horror movies monsters and creepy characters autists and pussy characters

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Ikari Shinki

>>39048989
;-;
Marry me anon

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>>39049194
Okay, but why ? Because i read some french literature ?

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Surprised it took this long, /r9k/

>>39049061
David did nothing wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ7E7Qp-s-8

>>39043681
What are you talking about? Every normie I knew hated Holden because they thought hating a "whiny faggot" made them mature since they saw that Family Guy episode where Quagmire chews Brian out.

>>39047028
He represents the everyday working man's rage at a changing world. He is literally Norman the Normie Norm. Not a bad character, but intended to be the voice of the average person.

>>39048318
Yep. Normies think he deserved everything he got. Stannis definitely counts, too.

>>39048374
>>39048374
The correct answer is Rorschach.

>>39048775
Normies just don't appreciate the tragedy of his character. He's either a /pol/tard or LITERALLY ME BATMAN I WILL LOOK DOWN AND WHISPER NO!!!! SO COOL!!!! The truth is that he's a man of tremendous principle, talent, and empathy for victims warped by his own personal failings, a history of abuse, hypocrisy, and serious mental illness.

Walter Kovacs' talents will always be squandered. Blaire Roche will always die. Cogs will always rain on New York.

>>39049157
I will punch every fucker who says "lol get in the robot in the face". And by that, I mean I will think about punching those people in the face.

Im gonna have to read that book again soon. I read it back probably 2-3 years ago. Tried to like it but i didnt. Maybe now my views would change.

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Severus Snape. Normie interpretations usually go along the lines of:

1.) "omg his love was so pure everything he did was so nice and wonderful so bravest man i ever knew i ship snily"
or
2.) "omg this guy is a literal rapist because how dare he still have feelings for a woman after she told him to fuck off what a literal mind rapist ew"
or
3.) "lol cucked beta fag"

1.) is wrong because Snape is a gross, slimy. weird depressive who doesn't take care of his physical hygiene and is a mean spirited prick 80% of the time. 2.) is bullshit because he never pursued Lily after she told him to fuck off. 3.) is pretty accurate but it misses the fact that he was the closest thing to a real, effective character that Rowling ever wrote and her greatest accomplishment.

Xavier from Xavier: Renegade angel

>>39049589
That nose doesn't lie

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Catelyn Stark.
Not gonna deny, she isn't a good person but she is far from being a bad person, but a morally grey character is too much for normies to understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k_HWCIT8nY

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>>39048483
There are hints that jacket didnt die. He didnt appear in the bar of broken heroes, where all the characters that have died or will die ahow up, or at the start of a new game, he doesnt show up with the other characters in the projector room

>>39049589
>but it misses the fact that he was the closest thing to a real, effective character that Rowling ever wrote and her greatest accomplishment.
Agreed entirely. His arc, and his entire place in the storyline are just about the only quality part of the entire series.

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>normalfags think he was an unreliable narrator

>>39049899
Who this dube?

>>39049589
>you have your mothers eyes
He said as he stared at the fruit of his cucking
Only a woman could write such a shitty character

>>39049847
>roastie
>game of normies

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Pic related.

original comment for you guys

Jerry from the short story Tell the Women We're Going
Ferdinand Bardamu/Leon Robinson from Journey to the End of the Night

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Marlo..... Marlo

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THE ENTIRE CAESAR

>>39050133
JK was off on some of her characterizations of guys.

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Shinji Ikari.
Normalfags literally don't understand

>>39048714
I didn't make any assertions.

>>39050353
>WHY DOESN'T HER JUST GET IN THE ROBOT XDDDD
>I WOULD KILL TO BE IN HIS SHOES XDDD

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>>39050425
Every time somebody says this I die a little more inside

>>39043610
Holden's is teen angst personified.

Anyone who likes him past the age of 18 has some serious growing up to do.

>>39043610
I Stand Alone - The Butcher
Taxi Driver - Travvis
Notes From Underground - The Underground man
The Master - Freddie
The Stranger - Meursault
The Picture of Dorian Gray - Basil

>>39050542
You're telling people who like Holden to "grow up"? You literally missed the entire point of the book.

>>39047032
>my experiences reflect how the majority of people are
We could just Google how people felt about Holden to see if he's liked or hated
Also my personal experince differs from your's, some normal people liked him,
some hated him, most didn't care

>>39043610
kevin yamagata- Billy BAt
johan liebert- Monster

i know theyre both urasawa characters but i dont think normies, much less anyone can relate to them

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>>39049865
Yep. He's a fantastic character and when I reread the books as an adult and savored his every line.

>>39050133
Except she didn't write that. That was an addition made in the movie, which was written by a man. Only a bitter, rejected loser could write such a shitty comment.

>>39049899
He is. He's literally insane. The guy fantasizes about fucking Lolita, impregnating her, and then fucking their baby. The whole point of the book is the ability of beautiful words to disguise terrible acts.

I agree that Humbert's character is largely misunderstood by normies who tend to either romanticize this book (check the Tumblr tag) or cast him as Literally Hitler.

>>39050542
You do realise you can sympathise with a character without liking their personality?

>>39047757
The thing he was arguing against is successfully countered by anecdotal evidence.

If someone says all people wear black shirts and you come in saying you wear white shirts then bam, pussy popped.

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>>39050353
>Shinji Ikari.
Yep.

>>39050809
>Evangelion is all about symbolism
>No the characters don't make any sense
It's LITERALLY the exact opposite. I swear to god White Korra was written just to trigger autists like me.

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>>39050835
As aggravating as that comic is, I'm 99% certain the author actually understands the series and made that as a joke.

>>39048000
>>39048743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWggMTA9ZU

Richter was a good boy and a great son.

>>39050629
There's absolutely nothing TO Holden, though.
No genuine thought. No worthwhile rebellion.
He's just kind of a giant pussy. My reaction to CITR was pretty much identical to that of the South Park kids. Don't fucking forecast to me that a novel is daring and dangerous and then have it be about a gigantic pussy who doesn't actually DO anything. I was more outrageous at age 9 than that lame bitch.

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Hitler was pretty much just an angry robot.

>>39050353
>>39050425
>>39050452
>Know anime-watching normies who parrot shit like this
>Can't discuss NGE with anyone anymore because people simply didn't understand the character

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Normies never understand Hazel Motes. Can't believe he was written by a roastie

>>39050425
>>39050353
>DUDE SHUDDA BEN SMASHING POON LMAO
>GIANT ROBOT AND PUSSY AND HE MOANS WTF!!!
The sad part is that 4channers spout this nonsense.

>>39050353
The normalfags that don't understand Shinji are the reason why Anno hates us all

>>39050952
This was what ruined /a/ for me, rather than discussing Evangelion it was just people flinging shit at eachother for having the wrong waifu

>>39049527
>The truth is that he's a man of tremendous principle, talent, and empathy for victims warped by his own personal failings, a history of abuse, hypocrisy, and serious mental illness.

So in other words, a /pol/tard.

>>39049527
>Normies think [Theon] deserved everything he got.
He deserved to be killed but that's pretty much it. Surprised people think he deserved to be Reek'd while fan favorites like the Hound, Jaime and Daenerys did shit as bad if not worse.

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Kasuga is practically me. Never self inserted into a manga so hard

>>39043610
Robert Neville

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Midori from Norwegian Wood is a fembot.
>Seems quirky and food but is secretly sad
>Tethered to dysfunctional family
>Has to take the lead and pursue the shy protagonist
>Main character takes her for granted until the Stacy he was in love with is out of the picture

>>39051186
>fembot.
There's no such thing as a fembot.

>>39051056
No. Most /pol/tards are not abuse survivors who over-identify with the victimised and oppressed, do not have PTSD (in fact they frequently mock it), are more than happy to violate their principles to screw over leftists (see any time where they resort to doxxing or something and someone asks why they should employ the same shitty tactics as SJWs), and lack any talent other than making Shia Leboefdfsdf cry.

>>39051082
Yeah, it was just the fact that he was a whiny douche who screwed over muh king in da nurf! I feel sorry for the Theon. He lived every day considering the Starks his loved ones, but believed that Ned would lop his head off at a single word from Big Bobby B. That boy needed a home.

>>39051109
I don't even know the context of this but I can already relate. What manga is this?

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>>39051186
>Has to take the lead and pursue the shy protagonist
>Seems quirky and food but is secretly sad
Poor girl );

>>39051280
Aku no Hana, it's about a completely normal kid who loves books, and then shit goes down.

>>39051381
It never interested me before but that single page makes me want to pick it up now, thanks anon.

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>>39051381
Should I watch the anime or read the manga?

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>>39051568
Both are food, but the anime's animation is almost Berserk 2017 quality. I personally liked it, but I wouldn't reccomend it for anything other than the opening and ending.

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>>39051635
I see, thanks for the response anon, hope you have a nice day or night

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>>39051678
Holy shit, I just realized I said food instead of good. I fucking hate phone posting.

Thankfully it's night, I hope you have a nice day or night as well.

>>39050629
But it is the point of the book. His world is wretched purely because of internal reasons, it's addressed in the ending dialogue.

>>39048989
Meursault isn't a robot, if anything he's more of a sociopathic chad

>>39051872
All this time I thought you were saying a portmanteau of fun and good, and that I had missed a new meme at some point
I liked it

>>39051872
>>39052000
You two kiss now

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>>39052000
Thank you kind anon.

Have an original thank you.

>>39043610
>the catcher in the rye
>"I don't like movies"
Stopped reading right there.

>>39043610
Not a character, but Kafka and every story he wrote.

>>39052638
>Jewish
>mentally ill
what a rarity

>>39052334
To be fair, movies back then weren't something teenage boys would like.

>>39049433
Normalfags see the violence, and the "you talkin' to me " scene and like the film based on that.

So misguided, so disappointing.

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>>39052945
I agree one hundred percent. There's so much more to the movie, and to the character, but chalking it up to "he's a badass who beats up rapists" is the worst thing. It really devalues an amazing film.

Meanwhile, the more important scenes, characterization wise, are things like the sickeningly awkward phone conversation in the hallway, or the "taking a girl to a porno" thing, or the little look he gives in the back mirror at the very end.

>>39053017
>he's a badass who beats up rapists
Jesus, how do you ignore the fact that he was about to assassinate the democratic presidential nominee hours before this just to prove to a woman who didn't want him anymore that he was man enough for her and that nothing can stand in the way of his love?

Dude's a damaged, fucked up character and I see people devalue/reduce that a lot.

>>39053239
But all of those things are why he's also such an interesting and underrated character. I have to ignore normalfags when they talk about the movie.

>>39053326
I agree completely, when I talked about any of Travis's nuances as a character to my big film guru friend he didn't even know what I was talking about and "just likes to sit and enjoy the movie."

Normies are the biggest casuals.

>>39051042
We all know it's Mari, should just stop fighting about it.

>>39044834
Toole had 4chan figured out before 4chan existed

>>39053413
>big film guru friend
>"just likes to sit and enjoy the movie."

Tell him that he's a piece of shit.

>>39052714
I'm full /pol/, but Kafka is too important, and too great, to write him off because he's a (((jew)))