Should loli hentai be allowed more prominently in media? I.e.

No. Media should solely be about teaching sound morals, not for fulfilling lust.

>>38926037
I don't think it should.
I don't believe it's immoral to view or enjoy it, but I also don't think it should be prevalent enough to normalize it.
It doesn't harm any children, but it could inspire sex offenders.

>>38926037
Lolicon here.
No fucking way. I don't want this shit to be normalized like everything else I like has been. Just let me wank in peace at least.

>>38926062
>pushing christian morals on the masses
Ok,timothy Mathews. Calm down. We get it,you dont repsect females and all gays should die.

>>38926064
Slippery slope is not an arguement.

>>38926111
but you'd have more material to fap with

>>38926037
sure if it's popular and people pay for it, let the free market decide.

>>38926037
No. I don't think its bad or anything but honestly it being prevalent could be used to harm kids and shit.
I say this as a person who likes loli and doesn't hate pedos.

if you want to spread the loli
do it slowly

>>38926037
You just tried this thread on /v/. Just shut up and post some loli. It's what you want to do anyway.

It isn't really disallowed, just that loli is niche and there won't ever be a mainstream demand for it.

Also it'd be a really bad influence on kids to see their 2d equivalent sexualized further than hollywood is doing.

>>38926233
/v/ mods are fags, but no. This is not a loli dumb. I want to have genuine discussion on this topic.

>>38926256
*dump

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It's interesting because loli hentai would easily undermine the trade in CP.

Allowing loli hentai and 3D renderings of children having sex would easily replace real CP being made, saving children from sexual abuse, but the normies won't have this!

It's almost as if they're obsessed with controlling male sexuality out of greed and fear.

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>>38926246
>It isn't really disallowed

>>38926277
>Allowing loli hentai and 3D renderings of children having sex would easily replace real CP being made

Just like adult hentai and 3D renderings of adults stymied real porn?

>>38926301
too long, i did not ead

Just no. Promoting ANY kind of sexual depictions of children is evil behavior and anyone who tries to normalize this fetish should be euthanized

>>38926256
It's already prominently. Just look at half of the anime subject matter and shows like dance moms. That's not even mentioning Neo Nickelodeon and the Disney channel. All men are pedophiles. The Age of concent in most American states was 10 until the late 1800s. Right around the time of woman's suffrage....

>>38926320
The difference is that adult porn is legal. So people can easily get their fix, 2D or 3D. CP is illegal, so if people were able to get their fix legally via 2D, you'd likely see a drop in CP trade. A drop in CP trade would mean that more people would stop making CP knowing that they won't be able to make any money off of it

>>38926037
I'm not anti-loli, but...
>if you don't like the topic of this thread just don't enter it.
hahahahaha kys weakling
If you don't like the topic of the responses just don't read them lmao?
The topic is "should X be featured more prominently", you're turning the topic into "my opinion".
What you actually meant was "If you don't like my opinion just don't enter it.", however you recognize that that's asinine and decide to weaken your language instead, fucking retard.

>>38926383
I think he meant don't come on and criticize him as the OP for making this thread, just like you're doing, anon.

>>38926383
no. I meant don't come into the thread just to cry out "kys pedo"

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>>38926351
First of all, studies have actually been done on the subject, and cp actually increases the likelihood of someone going full paedo.

Let's compare it to research chemicals and analogue drugs now shall we?
research chemicals and drug analogues are legal in most countries, providing a similar experience to regular drugs (more similar than loli vs. cp atleast.)
Yet regular illegal drugs still sell, despite you being able to order legal ones online, more cheaply, and for free.

Think about that one.

>>38926458
if someone's watching cp, arent they already full pedo?

>>38926037
You fucking faggot pedo

>>38926398
He doesn't write the rules though, don't respond to this post with criticism btw :^)

>>38926432
Then post that next time my man, way less weird.

>>38926398
>>38926432
this >>38926481 was what i meant

>>38926458
>First of all, studies have actually been done on the subject, and cp actually increases the likelihood of someone going full paedo.
Incorrect.
There's like only one actual study on this because you can't just give people cp and it was post soviet state that legalized cp. Child abuse went down more than general sexual abuse.

>>38926475
not nessecarily, the world isn't black and white?
you've probably fapped to some scat porn/bdsm at some point, does that make you a full scat fetishist/bdsm enthusiast/small penis humiliation/furry/whateverthefuck?

I fapped to cp years ago when I was an early teen but I don't think I would ever seek it out again.

IMO people who feel unwell that they crave loli shit so badly just deserve better psychological care, socialised healthcare reduces pedo incidence greatly.

I feel like societal bullying causes CP users to be less willing to look for help, have a negative self image which comes with a more loose sense of morality.

>>38926512
https://web.archive.org/web/20080111204617/http://www.ndaa.org/publications/newsletters/child_sexual_exploitation_update_volume_1_number_3_2004.html
okay nambla

I find loli gross, but at least y'all ain't hurting nobody

Don't go Dan Schneider on the girlscouts who visit your house and we're good

>>38926559
>I feel like societal bullying causes CP users to be less willing to look for help, have a negative self image which comes with a more loose sense of morality.
Of course this is true. If some robot actually went to a therapist and sexual fetishes came up and the robot said he likes loli, or drawings of children, the therapist would assume he was a pedophile (which is at least partially true) and put him on a watch list even if the robot said he has never been interested in real children or would never touch a child because he knows how wrong it is.

>>38926123
Trust me it's not worth it. The internet has gotten worse and worse because now everyone has access, not just the people willing to put in the time and search and discover. There's more content, but plenty of it is fucking garbage and the increased volume means more meaningless shit to sift through to rediscover the joy you used to feel online. But the joy keeps coming in faster, shorter, further apart blips because with everyone online the pace is blisteringly quick with media creation, consumption, and discussion. A piece of media is played out in a week anymore, vampirically drained.

I prefer the current, leisurely pace we have.

>>38926733
I don't see the issue.

You can love a pitbull and care for it, but also make sure it isn't left alone with toddlers

one thing I truly believe that we need is weaponized loli to eject normalfags

>>38926793
The problem is that your neighbors will find out because your therapist WILL tell them "out of fear for the children" and you'd be known as the neighborhood child molester because you like touching yourself to comics.

>>38926733
unless the guy has psychotic tendencies it would be useless put him in a list. you can't have 20% male population on a list.

We already have underage girls shaking their asses and singing about how they just want men to "fuck me harder" (direct quote from Ariana Grande) or how they want to "fuck all your friends" (direct qoute from Sophie Elise). I don't think loli hentai is a good thing, but if we're going to collectively tolerate underage sluttiness in real life, why on earth should underage drawings be off the table?

>>38926733
None of these lists exist in first world countries, it's illegal for these to exist, and if these lists DID exist, people would leak the fact that it's going on.

If you truly believe this you're digging yourself a deep hole my friend, if you're trying to dissuade people attracted to children from seeking help... fuck you asshole, think of the damage you are potentially causing these people, and children that might be victimized by them in a moment of desperation.

If you talk to a psych and you say "I'm attracted to underage children, I haven't acted on it though." he will help you.

>>38926037
reee pedo

>>38926896
>implying a normie government worker would leak that there's a secret list that is used to catch child molesters
Whatever you say.

You guys realizes most people don't fap to cartoons, so that narrow the already small proportion of people who would want more lolis.

It just never gonna catch on.

>>38926037
Are you suggesting it's explicitly prohibited? Because I don't think it is, but it would face such intense resistance that no media company anywhere would touch it because they'd be brought down by boycotts and protests. So unless you have some idea how to change public opinion, the notion of it being "more allowed" is nonsensical.

>>38927005
Obscene loli is explicitly prohibited.

>>38926896
he probably just would tell you that your personal fetishes are not his bussiness.

unless he's one of those curing gays quacks

>>38927035
You do know what "loli hentai" is, right?

>>38927064
Yes? I was just informing you.
The notion of it being more allowed is not nonsensical at least in the US. A clear step would be getting U.S. Code 1466A off the books.

I personally think it should be kept legal, but hard to find if you aren't looking for it. That would allow those who need it to suppress their desires to use it without the risk of more people "needing" it.

>>38927233
it's not legal, it's just not enforced, probably because it's fucking retarded

>>38926320
Yes exactly. 2D >3DPD any day.

>>38926635

All those stats say is people who are arrested for fucking kids tend to watch CP. No fucking shit, they are attracted to children so they watch porn involving children. There's nothing in that study that follows people who went from not having sex with kids, then started watching CP, then started having sex with kids, which is what your argument relies on.

>>38927333
>it's not legal
IT IS ON THE WEST COAST BABY

>>38927511
no, it's not legal federally and the charges are the same as real cp

>>38926896

I don't know about lists but therapists and psychologists do in fact have a legal and ethical obligation to report someone to the police if they claim to be fucking children or will likely be doing so soon. In the current climate it's not much of a stretch for a therapist to tell someone after you confess to jerking off to the mental image of your neighbor's 9 year old daughter.

Besides, what are therapists even going to do for a pedophile? "Uh, don't get aroused by children. Don't have sexual thoughts about children." Shit's retarded. Pedophiles are as stuck in an orientation as normies are to being attracted to adults. It's absurd to think a person who likes adults could be eventually dissuaded into liking children or the elderly simply because society wants them to, and it's equally as impossible for pedos to change their attraction criteria.

>not a single loli post after the OP
Bunch of faggots did you really open this thread to discuss his retarded premise?
>inb4 you didn't post
don't have my collection with me at the moment

>>38927533
>not legal federally
Pot isn't either, yet what's the state of that on the west coast? All it really comes down to, if your state actually takes you to court for cartoons, is your lawyers defence and the jury. As long as you don't have any cp you should be fine, then sue the state for defamation.

>>38927574
>Besides, what are therapists even going to do for a pedophile?
They work through the causes and the reason for the attraction to children. What's appealing about them, and what void is missing in their own lives. They're not seeking to remove the attraction in the sense of "this is bad and you need to stop", but eliminate it by addressing the persons needs without vice.

>>38926635
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.htm
>Results from the Czech Republic showed that rape and other sex crimes have not increased following the legalization and wide availability of pornography. In addition, the study finds that the incidence of child sex abuse has fallen since 1989, when child pornography became readily accessible.
really activates those onaholes

>>38927647
Are you confident a jury won't find your loli hentai obscene?

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>>38926037
>hentai
Fuck no.
>cute
Absolutely. Lolis are not for lewd.

>>38927654
>causes and the reason

Pseudoscience nonsense with no basis in reality or research. The only things to be done to stop a pedo from arousal in regards to children are suppressing sex hormones via drug therapy or (to a lesser degree) lifelong removal from any imagery or contact with children.

>>38927794

And just to be clear, those "solutions" I outlined are unnecessary given that being a pedophile is not a problem except in the context of a society that doesn't like pedophiles. They don't inherently cause any more problems than people of any other orientation.

>>38927736
I'm confident a lawyer would be able to convince a jury they aren't real children and I'm not doing any harm by having them in my possession.

>>38927866
But that's not the question the jury has to answer. The question is if it's obscene.

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>>38926064
>it could inspire sex offenders
Video games "could inspire" violence and other criminal acts too, except for the overwhelming evidence that they reduce, at the least, violent crimes.
>>38926754
Nailed it. I lived through this happening here over the last decade, at least on /a/.
>>38926037
I had a whole thing I was writing but I'm sick of rephrasing everything so I'll just say no. It's not even a matter of "allowed" or not. I don't want public opinion to ever get worse about the matter but loli acceptance to the point of becoming a mainstream interest is never going to be a good thing for true loli lovers.

>>38927948
>violence and other criminal acts
No one cares about that shit though. In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous....

>>38927925
Whether its obscene or not is irrelevant; the state would be calling it child porn, and therefore illegal, and my lawyer would be calling it cartoons, drawings, fiction, etc. therefore not legal. All it would come down to is whether the jury finds me guilty or not guilty.

>>38928113
>Whether its obscene or not is irrelevant
No whether it's obscene or not is the what determines if it's illegal.
> the state would be calling it child porn
They wouldn't because child pornography involves real people or a photo realistic image.
>and my lawyer would be calling it cartoons, drawings, fiction, etc
That's great except if they're found to be obscene per the Miller test it's still illegal.
>All it would come down to is whether the jury finds me guilty or not guilty.
Counting on jury nullification is pretty fucking stupid.

>>38927794
Regardless of your opinion of treatment methods, the point is they are more extensive than a slap on the wrist and a reminder that "you shouldn't do that"

>>38928183
>They wouldn't because child pornography involves real people or a photo realistic image.
>my state would arrest me for possession of cp without any actual cp
This is the reason why police have made so few arrests in the united states for loli without any real cp also being on the hdd or internet history.

>>38928287
They're not arresting you for possession of cp they're arresting you for possessing obscene depictions of little kids.
>This is the reason why police have made so few arrests in the united states for loli without any real cp also being on the hdd or internet history.
The reason is it's super low priority.

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>>38926037
Look, 2d pedophilia is fine, but understand you are in an extreme minority and the average person finds it disgusting. If you want to watch loli hentai fine, there is plenty of stuff out there for you. But no, loli hentai should not be normalized in media

>>38928881
>look gay anal sex is fine, but understand you are in an extreme minority and the average person finds it disgusting.
there are probably more men who find 12-year-old girls attractive than there are men who find other men attractive. yet here we are in 2017 and if you find two men banging offensive then i find YOU offensive, shitlord!

Kys pedo
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