>globalism is bad Time to hop off the pol train kids

>>38878277
>representative """democracy"""
>Democracy
stopped reading there

>>38878300
Indeed. Bourgeois parliamentary democracy is not democracy at all!

>>38878277
so what you're saying is that industrialization was good? what's that got to do with globalism?

>>38878300
They probably count anyone who can vote as living in a democracy, and that's just not true.

>>38878317
want to know how I know you're jewish

>>38878277
>these two corellative statistics explicitly show causation!

Get fucked.

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>>38878317
>every relevant country wants less immigration, mostly by huge majorities
>increased mass immigration continues anyway
anyone who wastes 20 minutes of their day voting on election day is a retard honestly. The elites who control your country already have their mind made up, you just get to vote on which path we take to the end result

>>38878277
>democracy
Definitely a Jewish agenda.

>>38878317
Eat the bourgeois comerade

>>38878399
Don't tell me Mr. Shekelstein has made you fall for the liberal capitalist meme.

>>38878424
And I'm glad they do. Not because of immigration, I'm also very skeptical of it, but because the general public is fucking retarded. I feel much safer knowing the 1% is in charge than the people.

Democracy was a thought experiment by the richest and most educated during the time of enlightenment. These people didn't actually interact with commoners, the idea of giving power to the people was spawned from religious amd philosophical beliefs of human nature.

We'd be better off in a real monarchy. At least then the people calling the shots wouldn't be restrained by pretending to care about voters.

>>38878277
The level of education may be increasing, but the average intelligence is in decline, and is only going to keep decreasing as the low IQ parts of humanity keeps growing.

>>38878424
We don't even vote on that, the path is the same we only chose if the asshole who's going to destroy us in our homeland will wear red ties or blue ties (and maybe if the marginal tax rate will be 37% or 39%)

>>38878544
That's mostly thanks to the welfare state. You don't even need to be able to feed yourself these days to be able to reproduce and have your offspring live.

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>>38878424
>It's only democracy if I have the right to vote to take away your human rights!

The right to immigrate is a liberty all should be entitled to, and if you disagree you're a statist cuck.

>>38878603
>The right to immigrate is a liberty all should be entitled to
[citation needed]

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>>38878625
>Believing in imaginary lines between countries
>Believing laws and states should dictate whether you can move from this place on grass to that place on grass

Yep, statist cuck.

>>38878277
Whatever, I truly don't care about this materialistic shit. This does not mean we live better lives than people in the past at all.

I would much rather live in ancient greece and die at 30 than to die at 80 in this crappy modern world.

>>38878603
Your rights end when you violate my liberty.

In other words, fuck off we're full.

>>38878603
>defending the state granting immigration rights to only certain groups because it's preferable in your mind to nobody at all being granted those rights
only one statist cuck here

>>38878277
>no poverty
so basically, everyone is spoiled rotten
cool, that can't possibly have any problematic consequences
>muh educates
all you get here is a bunch of people who don't actually understand anything in their heads but with a smug attitude to go with it
no way anything bad will happen here
>muh literates
"now i can read any old shit and be the smartsest"
"theres no way the propoganda will be more effective than ever before because the smarts of all"
>democracy is good
it's quite obvious to everyone alive how that's been proven completely incorrect of late
>muh vaccinations
all you're doing is getting into an arms race with disease
good long with that one, idiots
>save every fetus
you can't defeat survival of the fittest, but maybe you can delay it
who's being helped here exactly

hope that clears some things up for you progressicucks

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>>38878734
>"heh heh heh, that'll show OP, i'm the real smart one here. how dare he actually believe in statistics and facts?
fucking retard. fucking imbecile."

>>38878734
>literally nothing is good and I want babies to die
Wow yeah good point bro

>>38878277
That image is the white mans accomplishments.

Can't tell if failed pol shill or fucking retarded.

>>38878644
>what are taxes
>what are public institutions
no one gives a shit about your imaginary line on a field. that's not what countries are about. they're collective agreements among people. what a group of people have agreed to be important, worth funding, worth protecting. that's why people don't want just anybody to come in and shit all over, not because a piece of rock is on one side of a non-existent line. because of nations and nationalities we can at least have some level of certainty that the person you're seeing in your country agrees with the general outlines of what you believe to be important as well and why we don't have to check passports every time you enter public transportation to know most passengers also paid for the road the bus is traveling on.

>>38878820
you realize global rise in wealth isn't a good thing, right? we're only as rich as someone else is poor. if there was no child labour in china you wouldn't be able to afford all the things you now can. I live in a country that was already on the "good" side of these statistics 70 years ago, it would be in my intetest that as few as possible make it after me.

>>38878833
babies don't even know shit
better for a baby to die than an actual person

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>>38878856
>>38878887
>Muh Marxism
>Muh morals
>Muh collectivism

Thanks for confirming the theory that /pol/fag white nationalists and Tumblrfag SJW communists are literally exactly the same.

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>>38878734

>this is correct

but desu anarchy is democracy, just not a state regulated democracy

>>38878950
Are you sure you can't fit more buzzwords into a post? I sure feel like a hardcore marxist with my publicly built roads and infrastructure.

I always assumed /pol/ wasn't about making the world a better place and more about making everyone else as miserable as they are.

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>>38878983
>publicly built roads and infrastructure.
>"Anything that doesn't involve forced government redistribution of wealth and state-dictated collectivism means LE NO ROADS xxDD"

I am in favour of enough of a state to maintain law and order and to deliver justice to people who commit genuine direct crimes eg murder, rape, theft.

Beyond that I believe we should let nature dictate everything. Survival of the fittest. If you're too much of a manlet/brainlet to get ahead in life, you stay poor. Simple as that.

Though, why am I surprised /r9k/ is in favour of rampant totalitarian statism? You people unironically believe in the redistribution of girlfriends from Chad to yourselves.

>>38878887
>we're only as rich as someone else is poor.
what the fuck? No, that's not how wealth works. The whole world has gotten wealthier. It's not a zero sum game

>>38879062
What an amazing strawman. All I literally said is that due to border control you have some level of certainty thay people using roads or other tax funded services also had a part in funding them and you go on a rant about totalitaritan states and some anarco-capitalist memes?

I didn't actually bother reading most of your post so don't wait for a rebuttal.

>>38878277
Ah good old twisted statistics. Doesn't look nearly so good if you consider the population in 1979 was 1.1Bn, and it's now 7.5Bn.

In terms of actual individuals suffering, things have improved but not nearly as much as the graphs try to make it look. Examples:

Child Mortality
0.43 * 1.1 = 0.473
0.04 * 7.5 = 0.3

Poverty
0.94 * 1.1 = 1.034
0.10 * 7.5 = 0.75

So in 100 years we've reduced the instances of childhood mortality from 473 Million to 300 Million, and people living in poverty from 1Bn to 750 mil. Good but nothing like the graphs try to make it look.

>>38879062
Maintaining border control is a direct way to PREVENT future rapes, murders and thefts.

>>38879068
Yes it is. What you're repeating is a globalist lie. If we had just kept exploiting brown people and kept colonizing them with no regard to their well being we'd be even richer right now.

>>38879195
lol 1979. 1919 I meant.

You know what all those changes coincide with? The industrial revolution! Massive strides being made in technology! The full removal of serfdom and other oppressive social policies!

How could you fuck up so badly, op?

>>38879195
Yeah but you can't ignore that there are waaay more people doing well right now than in the past. I think the percentage scale is pretty good to weight this correctly

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>using progress to justify conservatism.
Pointing out that we're materially richer dosent obviate the need to change the existing class order.

>>38879307
And that is why globalism is bad. Just like in a society you need the plumbers and cleaners too. Not everyone can earn above the average wage.

>>38879341
Yeah let's transfer the power from corporations to one guy who has full control of the industry, army, police and media! What could go wrong!!

>>38879379
That's true, but a plumber today in the US can get a pretty decent living, because the goods are so cheap, and I find that to be nice. It's certainly the best time in history to be a plumber lol

We gotta see how automation and IA is going to change the game in the next years though. These low IQ jobs are going to be the first ones to be replaced, and these people will stay unnemployed. Jordan Peterson has a lecture about this, it's breddy good.

>>38879410
Pretty easy to win arguments when you use straight up libel. Talking about the creating new social relations of production dosent mean stalinism.

>>38878317
>!
Fucking leftists

>>38879580
I believe in moderation desu. Having markets with some restrictions and strong unions is the ideal for me

And you?

>>38878685
>only certain groups
he never said that

>>38878657
What liberties have been violated you fucking retard?

>>38878625
>should
It's his opinion so no citation needed.

Fuck, pol became stupid as fuck after the Russian shill cutbacks.

>>38878734
>everyone spoiled rotten
Having a place to live and heaving enough to eat is being spoiled. Look at the dates faggot I'm not exaggerating.

> Don't understand anything
"I attended the school of life, hurr"
Fucking retard they understand what they're taught most importantly how to read, write, spell, and basic Mathematics.

> Propaganda
Propaganda doesn't require the ability to read, but exposure to it is a small price to pay for the great number of learning opportunities (from books, manuals, etc.).

> Democracy is empirically bad
Prove it also name a system with a better balance between collective production and personal sacrifice.

> Arms race with disease
Fucking retard don't get vaccinated and don't let your family get vaccinated.

> We should not help fetuses; survival of the fittest
It's not survival of the fittest when your life is entirely dependent on someone else.

Shouldn't you be in Saturday school you fucking underachieving reprobate.

>>38878921
You don't have to choose, moron.

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>>38878277
>Yes, my precious Liberal.
>Globalism is good.
>Please show them!

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>>38879638
Proletarian dictatorship with a syndicalist economic system. None of that Stalinist rubbish.

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>>38878277
>tfw to intelligent to believe correlation doesn't equal causation

>>38879604
Don't you mean "Fucking leftists!"

>>38879195
You have it all backwards, the percentage is a better metric.
It's a much smaller part of the population overall who suffers the afflictions this is more important than total number.


Think about how many people would be affected if the percentage remained the same.

Child Mortality
0.43 * 7.5 = 3.225

Poverty
0.94 * 7.5 = 7.05

If the percentage remained the same the child mortality would've increased from 473 Million to 3 billion 225 Million cases.

And people living in poverty would've increased from 1Bn to 7.05 Billion.


A percentage of change is much more significant than a change in sheer number when dealing with sets of different values.

>>38879379
Yes they can but it's difficult when the people who have the most hoard what they have.

>>38878277
Watch all of those statistics shoot back in the other direction once you're finished replacing the benefactor race with sub 90 IQ niggers and inbred sandies.

>>38879208
Killing every person on earth is a way to PREVENT future rapes, murders, and thefts.

Do you really believe that a majority of immigrants are Rapists, murderers, and thieves? How many of those crimes would be prevented? Is it worth the cost to hire new border agents (who can be bought or coerced) or build a new wall?

It won't be very effective if preventing those crimes is it's only goal.

>>38879255
Globalism is directly tied to the spread of technology.