>wasted two years doing jack shit after graduating high school

I'm a Junior in college at 24. Won't graduate till I'm 26 probably. Then I too will get a Master's degree. Why do you care?

>>38752027
yo anon can i get sauce on that pic?

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>>38752314
no results on iqdb

>>38752027
I know from experience that most students at my college are 22 - 26 , as long as your in ur 20's your good bro

>>38752314
Sorry don't have it. It's probably shiburin, saved it from danbooru I think
>>38752222
It's just frustrating to have wasted time like that.
>>38752378
>22 - 26
That's kind of odd. I guess I'm not too old.

>>38752027

Done the same thing.

Plenty of people start a bit later, either they fail, have to repeat, become busy with other things etc, don't worry about it.

>>38752027
Better than being a loser faggot at 26 to 28...

>>38752574
You can have a PhD and still be a loser

>>38752027
>went straight into college after high school
>got my bachelors degree
>graduated roughly a month and a half ago
>still unemployed
How the fuck do people live the NEET life every day? I've barely spent any time as a NEET and I can't fucking stand it.

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>>38752027
That's cool. I'm 25 and I've been a NEET for 9 years.
Also, kill yourself normalfag.

>>38752877
You'd hope not. Statistics are on your side for jobs and earnings...

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>>38752943

b-because..

>>38752943
By having hobbies that we genuinely enjoy.

>>38753196
If I was a normie I would have friends and maybe then being a NEET wouldn't be so bad.

>>38753224
>tfw instead of hobbies I just threw myself into my studies and part time student employment
I guess I'm fucked until I find a job then.

>>38753380
Hobbies are good for your mental health my dude. You should probably try things out while you're waiting for callbacks or whatever to find something you enjoy.

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>>38752027
>takes the beta nerd career path
>complains about the beta nerd life he "thinks" he's going to have
>freshmen actually still think they're going to make it out and get a job making money at the end

>>38753380

Wanting to sort yourself out after a month shows that you aren't a loser and are committed to making something of your life.

I've been in complete isolation for 6 years because of varying problems, mostly to do with my mental state. Don't feel bad about being a NEET for a short amount of time, it could be a lot worse.

>>38752027
I'm actually on medical leave from college after doing my freshman year op and am the same age as you, hopefully I'm healthy enough to join you next year.

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Someone said to me
You'll be 30 either way so do you want to be 30 with or without a degree
So now I'm getting a degree

pros
>exercise for brain
>forces you to keep up grooming and such
>hot girls on campus

cons
>don't feel any different towards my future because I know I'm unfit to actually work a job, no matter what field
>the gods have probably destined me for autismbux

>>38752027
22 and sophomore here. finishing out at 23/24
why you considering grad school?

>>38753569
What's the "beta nerd career path"?
>>38753982
>why you considering grad school
I'd like to work in a field that requires a graduate degree, and it's impossible to get a job in my country with only a BSc anyway.

>>38754018
what country/what field?

>>38752027
>He thinks he'll be making money after grad school

Oh sweetie...

>>38754043
France and computational finance.

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Woot i just looked at the date and realized ill be 25 in 2 weeks.
>Highschool dropout
>Time feels meaningless when you neet
>it just flew by
Cant afford collegue so whatever, never had means to change shit

>>38754134
time flying by as a neet is the worst feeling, I already have enough anxiety about fixing my life, I don't need time speeding up to make things worse.

>>38754106
very few non professional degrees hand you a job here in burgerland either. my parents want me to go into compfin but finance is perhaps the most elitist field over here.
i have a better shot at fucking ML, and that's saying something

>>38754103
if you work in industry you do. but turns out that an ms/phd are the bare minimum to be considered at that level

>>38754268
>the most elitist field
If you want to be an actual quant, yes, but you can find work on the software side more easily. Still have to be good though.
>better shot at fucking ML
Is ML insanely competitive in the US or something?
To maximize your chances it's probably better to get a math degree rather than an EECS one, though. An applied math MSc is really versatile.
I've heard finance especially preferred math backgrounds.

>>38754106
>>38754268
>2017
>compfin

Lol you're about 15 years late

I hope you enjoy working back office risk management for 80k USD before tax

>>38752027
I wasted a year after high school studying computer science which I didn't like and then a year doing nothing, now I'm 22 and worried what happens to me, I already found a new school but I don't know if I make it

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>tfw finishing HS at 23
I never had a chance

>>38754334
>you're about 15 years late
Are you retarded
Algorithmic trading is only getting bigger

>>38754374
this, the stock market in the short term now and compfi is literally just a circlejerk of algorithms trying to be one step ahead of one another, it's a clusterfuck.

OP go to college. I made this mistake, I even had a full ride from scholarships. But I had knee surgeries right out of high school and couldn't walk for 2 years. Then I didn't want to start college at 20 and finish at 26 or 28. I just wanted to gtfo of my parents house. Now I can hardly keep up with bills at 26, might have to get a second job.

>>38754411
HFT isn't the only thing in fintech though. Just look at what Jane street, Citadel or Rentech do.

>>38754450

what do you they do? I can't think of how else you'd make money through the stock market besides trying to predict its future, unless they don't make money through the stock market?

>>38754485
Algorithmic trading in the broadest sense isn't limited to HFT (which is what you were referring to in your previous post)

>>38753023

Not really when relative competition is the same. You may have less people competing with you but there are fewer jobs at the PhD level anyway

>>38754319
>Is ML insanely competitive in the US or something?
from what i've seen, very. six figure starting salaries at large companies, prestige of a new field.
it's not finance/petroleum tier where they literally rip your resume apart in front of you though

>>38754343
>still in hs at 23
i-is that legal?

>>38754493

yeah that's why I said 'in the short term', of course you could try to predict larger trends, but the highest potential for making money is hft since you make money on every fluctuation instead of the averages between larger periods of time, there's just objectively more money to be made in hft if you compare their highest potential.

the only upside i could see to doing longer term predictions is that it's easier to do, but i think the higher potential for profits in hft is worth it, it basically depends on your confidence in your ability to trade/predict the future imo. hft has more potential but is harder and vice versa for longer term trends.

>>38752314
Character is
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=shibuya_rin
the specific pic doesn't seem uploaded to the common sites so you'll probably have to browse pixiv manually for it

>>38752027

That's nothing lmao. I'm only graduating with my UNDERGRAD at age 25-26. Granted it's an actually very good degree (chemical engineering).


Just make sure you're picking something useful and not meme degrees

NEET of three years here. Time flies. I don't know what to do. I'm going to start online classes this fall I think, so at least I have that going for me. I think I'll do computer related stuff even though I'm not sure I have the interest, or mind for it.

I don't know what kind of career I'd want to be honest, you know? I'm incapable of McDonalds (Tried it). That first day was fun, let me tell you.

>nobody would train me or tell me what to do
>just stood there, kind of until I was told what to do
>half the people didn't speak english
>manager laughing it up with all the girls
>24-ish year olds all throwing food at each other laughing, or taking loooongass smoke breaks
>it was dirty, nuggets everywhere I could clean but it'd just get dirty again
>all THIS for 7 or 8 bucks an hour? Fuck this

I mean ffs my friend pushes carts and makes like 14 an hour.

>>38754573
Considering it's a new field and that a lot of companies are investing money in ML, you'd think anyone halfway decent with a master's in something heavily quantitative would manage to land a job.

>>38754319
>>38754374
>>38754450
>>38754573
I'd like to do quantitative finance as well.
Should I major in math or CS? Or both?
What about the MS, what programs should I be looking at? Machine learning, probability, something else?

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>>38752027
At least you have the hope of being able to make bank later. My hope was already shattered when I got a job because it is a constant reminder that I'm actually worthless.

>>38754783
traditionally it was research heavy, and a phd is basically the only proof of "you're not shit at research" that people take seriously
it's starting to change a bit though. the theory is more solid and there are more "easy" non-research based jobs to do that people without phds can do

Lots of people get a late start on college. People who just got out of the military, women whose kids are finally old enough to be in school during the day, etc.

>I'll be around 26 to 28 when I actually start making money

IF you're a STEMlord or Mr-Can-Sell-Ice-To-Eskimos, sure. Otherwise you'll probably look for work for awhile. It's a jungle out there. But it's kinda nice to have the achievement under your belt.

>TFW 25 and no college education
>Going to end up one of those adults that works as a cashier at a grocery store probably

I really wish I had interest in ANY career field. I just have no idea what I want to do so I never did anything but get a job from my dad.

>>38754682
Honestly I'd avoid fast food like the plague. Do retail. I worked at Walmart when I was younger and currently working at whole foods and it is great.

Whole foods in my area pays me 12/hr, and Walmart paid minimum but was still chill. You also get a discount on everything in the store so for Walmart that more than makes up for the mediocre pay. Currently work produce and its so much fun. Learned a lot, the people are all nice, and I get to try a bunch of shit I never have before.

>>38754944
>there are more "easy" non-research based jobs
Like what?

>>38755014
lot of software engineering positions will take you in with just a masters, the problem is phds/masters with experience still apply here and their resumes likely look stronger than yours

I had already enrolled in college right after h.s. I start next month like all the other Freshman.

OP if you want I would recommend taking classes over the summer to help you get ahead faster. This is what I plan to do because I want to get the Hell out of college as fast as I can.

I'm a computer science major who wants to be a software engineer when I graduate. There's also the chance that I can do side jobs online for extra money so it's a pretty sweet field in my opinion.

>>38755130

Desu my advice would be to find a internship after you have 2 years of college under your belt. This would count as "job experience" to most employers who eat this shit up. You could also use the software engineers you work for during your internship as references and even have them write you reference letters which could boost your chance of getting a job.

I only plan to get a bachelor btw. When I want to move up I'll use work experience which is much more important to employers than a extra 2 years of college

>>38752027
Honestly, if you really want to go into the field that you want to, its a "better late than never" sorta deal.

>>38754873
Anyone?
I have people telling me to take a math major and learn programming on the side, others telling me that majoring in CS is enough, and then I get some people saying stuff like "do economics + stats" or whatever. I'm pretty lost.

>>38755236

If you want a computer field then major in computer science. Then you can learn other useful skills like programming and such by outside programs like codeacademy or going to coding classes.

>>38755276
>major in computer science. Then you can learn other useful skills like programming and such by outside programs
Not sure I'm following.

>>38755190
i was referring to specifically swe positions in ds/ml. grad degrees are valued a bit more, and the people applying to these jobs have as much (probably more because that's literally their field of study) work experience in addition to those extra 2 years ofcollege

listen to his advice though. internships/work experience are king and don't get an MS in compsci just for the sake of getting an MS. unless you're going into grad dominated fields, masters of CS are becoming more memetastic every day

>>38755673
>masters of CS are becoming more memetastic every day
Even the more math-heavy fields of CS?

>>38752027
I switched my major and won't graduate until I'm 25.

>>38755848
i'm not completely sure about specific fields, but i can only really restate the generic thing i said above:
lot of people who go to grad school end up basically the exact same place they would have if they didn't go. if what you want to do isn't like at least 80% dominated by grads, don't bother.

MSCS is super popular because of pajeets trying to get work visas and people trying to resume build, but turns out that programming skill =/= education/compsci theory knowledge
know what you wanna do if you're going to grad school.

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>>38752027
>>38754106
If you took a 2y break I'm going to assume you're in licence, in which case I ask what university ? I assume you know that if you don't get either EK or LE you can forget about being a quant.

>>38756241
>what university ?
Going to Paris 6.
>EK or LE
What?

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>>38752027
boo fucking hoo your life must really fucking suck, huh anon?

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>>38756369
>Paris 6
Good, 6 / 7 / 11 are all excellent (in slightly different ways however)
>What?
EK = El Karoui aka M2 Probabilites et Finance (P6)
This is what you're shooting for but you need ~16 in your M1
If you already have ~16 in licence, applying to engineering schools (X, ENSAE, ENPC...) might be a good idea.

LE = Laure Elie aka M2MO (P7)
Easier to get into, slightly less prestigious but still head and shoulders above all the other quantitative finance M2. Interestingly can have a more statistical leaning than EK if you're not big on stochastic calculus or want to keep your options open for a career in data science.

I'm happy to answer any question you may have.

>>38756369
>Paris 6
>thought you meant "one of the big 6 schools in the country"
>nope, turns out that french unis are literally numbered
the fuck kind of anime level naming convention is this?

>>38756561
>in slightly different ways
How do you mean?
>16 in your M1
I'm going to bust my ass and make it happen. I did jack shit in high school and I regret it, but now I redid the entire program and I've acquired discipline.
As another anon asked earlier, is there any value to doing a double Math/CS major from L2 onwards (or a math major/CS minor), or is mathematics sufficient?
I've already taught myself programming, but I haven't done any true theoretical computer science.
>EK
>LE
Considering it's easier to get into a master's program at a university you've been to for your licence, EK seems like the obvious choice here if it's more prestigious.
Is there any advantage to going to an engineering school? Only French hiring departments have a hard-on for these, as far as I know.

Do you work in quant finance?

>>38756616
The french have a subtle kind of autism.
The best university in the country is literally named "Normal Superior School"

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>>38752222
i care about those quads

>>38754411
>>38754374
>algorithmic trading is only getting bigger

Actually, in terms of the number of people it employs, it is rapidly shrinking and will continue to do so.

You seem to be under the impression that you have any understanding of financial markets whatsoever

>>38752027
Get a fucking trade at Community Collage and make money in less then a year while doing hands on shit to get your masters.

>>38757450
>in terms of the number of people it employs
Depends if you're talking exclusively about quant researchers, or if you include quant developers as well

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>>38756689
>How do you mean?
P6 has very large classes, even in mathematics (over 300 in M1 !) and you're next to Ulm which can be a bit disheartening (don't underestimate psychological factor, that's a rookie mistake). The very large choice of courses, especially in M1, can be a noobtrap if you don't have the scientific maturity to take advantage of it but otherwise can open you any door you want if you prepare for it.

P7 is much smaller (~30 in licence and master) which can be conducive to better networking with your profs, but overall fewer opportunities due to fewer courses. The student quality however is comparable (all the profs from P6 and P7 work in the same mathematics labs).

P11 is stupidly elitist, but has great connections to engineering schools and ENS Cachan. They don't like finance but their Proba/Stat M2 is arguably on par with P6 for probability, and better for theoretical statistics.

I'm only scratching the surface.

>is there any value to doing a double Math/CS major from L2 onwards
I'm biased but I think catching up on CS is easier than mathematics. For finance, more math is better. Do a few programming projects on the side to build an "algorithmic mind". Theoretical CS is irrelevant to you for the most part : it's mostly algebra, while finance is all analysis (probablity is analysis, statistics is rooted in analysis too).

Do pick statistics courses, they're not 100% necessary for finance but there are way more jobs in data science / statistics, and you'll be better off taking a top statistics job than a mediocre finance job. And you might find out you don't like finance after all.

>it's easier to get into a master's program at a university you've been to
To give you a sense of scale (exact numbers can vary but proportions stay roughly similar):
EK has 80 students. 50 of these are either X or ENS. 20 are the top students from other engineering schools. 10 are from an university. Of these 10 around 3 or 4 are from the 300+ P6 M1.

cont

>>38757880
>psychological factor
Because of Ulm's excellence?
>very large choice of courses
Aren't professors there to advise students for that stuff?
>P11 is stupidly elitist
I would've thought P6 and Dauphine were the most elitist facs.
>catching up on CS
>Theoretical CS is irrelevant to you for the most part
Considering I already know how to program, is there anything else I should do other than build a portfolio and learn new relevant languages, then?
>Do pick statistics courses
I will. About data science and related fields, should I get into machine learning, deep learning or anything else as well?
>3 or 4 are from the 300+ P6 M1
Since it's that cutthroat, are you sure a ~16 average and making a good impression on professors is enough?

>>38757559
Both of those roles are far broader than algorithmic trading itself

Please stop posting about things you clearly don't understand.

>>38758171
>aren't professors there to advise students for that stuff?

Oh my sweet summer child

>>38758357
I mean, if you ask a professor what the best course of action is, taking your goals into account, why would they refuse to help or give you shitty advice?

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>>38756689
>>38757880
LE isn't as flooded by X/ENS but still on any given year they take 3 to at most 5 of their M1 (the bar is lower, ~15 is usually sufficient to get in).

>Is there any advantage to going to an engineering school?
You will be discriminated against if you're EK vs. X+EK. Engineering schools also have an extensive alumni network. Going from uni to engineering school usually sets you back one year, which is fair because the teaching style is very different and can be difficult to adjust to.

>Do you work in quant finance?
No, at least at ENSTA most of the tools are going into finance, and I realized I didn't like it very much. I throw up a little in my mouth thinking back of lectures on option replication strategy.
I'm doing an M2 on Data Science now. I can always apply to LE in a year if I change my mind but I'm more keen on PhD.

>>38758171
>Because of Ulm's excellence?
Someone told me she regrets studying for agreg at P6 because Ulm students would just helicopter-dick all the tests and it's psychologically hard on you when you're already struggling to keep up.

>Aren't professors there to advise students for that stuff?
Yes. This does not mean they are very knowledgeable or without their own bias however. Take what they say into account but always with a grain of salt.

>I would've thought P6 and Dauphine were the most elitist facs.
Don't get me wrong they're elitist (Dauphine for the wrong reasons imo). I suspect P11 is overcompensating.

>Considering I already know how to program
Building a portfolio is irrelevant, at least in EK admissions no one will care, the saying goes "you don't do the job before learning it". Be strong in C++ / Python (especially numpy and pandas) / R (same as pandas) / Matlab (same as numpy) and you're good.

>About data science and related fields
Read An Introduction to Statistical Learning (and Elements of Statistical Learning as reference when you're older) it covers all the basics. PDF is free online.

>>38752027
I started college at 19 and I'm already ahead of people that started sooner because I take extra classes. You can catch up.

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>>38758171
>Since it's that cutthroat, are you sure a ~16 average and making a good impression on professors is enough?
1) Not all students want to go to finance, so they don't take the courses relevant to finance (stochastic calculus in particular).
2) You're assuming getting a 16 average at P6 is easy.

>>38758421
>the bar is lower, ~15 is usually sufficient to get in
I don't get it, there must be a bunch of M1 students in P6, P7 and P11 with an average above 15 or 16, yet they only take five people per year at most. What are their other requirements?
>You will be discriminated against
In that case, is an EK+PhD more competitive?
By the way, do EK/LE have a good international reputation as well?
>Data Science
The field is going through tremendous growth right? Are you aiming for a specific career path?
What PhD?
>Ulm students would just helicopter-dick all the tests
Huh, they're that good?
>does not mean they are very knowledgeable or without their own bias
Is it common for uni professors in math depts. to have a bias against the industry (especially finance) as opposed to research?
If professors aren't always reliable, how do you figure out what the optimal path to take is from M1 onward?
>Dauphine for the wrong reasons
Well, isn't it a great university?
>in EK admissions
I was talking about the CV in general, for jobs.
I either know or have dabbled in the languages you cited except for Matlab. Is having a functional programming background worth it?
>PDF is free online
I'll take a look, thanks.

>>38758627
>Not all students want to go to finance
I thought a sizable portion would be interested at least.
>You're assuming getting a 16 average at P6 is easy
Not really, I just said there must be more than five people who had such grades in a pool of 300+ students.
Are you only talking about M1 grades, or about the entire record from L1 to M1?
How difficult and intense is the coursework compared to, say, an average CPGE?

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>>38758685
>I don't get it
I'll put it this way : the intersection of students interested in finance and with good enough grades in M1 is small enough that it isn't a problem. This should give you a hint about how hard getting these grades is.

Honestly don't worry about it, just keep a consistent average of 16 and work your way towards stochastic calculus and you'll be fine.

>is an EK+PhD more competitive?
For some positions yes
>do EK/LE have a good international reputation
Yes, EK is possibly the most hardcore math finance masters in the world.

>Data Science
It's growing for sure, not sure about career, not sure about PhD field either but I'm doing a deep learning computer vision research internship at INRIA Saclay right now and it's fun.

>Ulm
They are that good

>profs
Many have a bias against finance for ethical reasons. It's fine. Focus on acing your licence for now, three years is a very long time.

>Dauphine
No matter how you put it, on average in raw math ability the students just aren't as good as 6/7/11. It's very overrated in math imo (the lab is great though).

>CV
Managing a portfolio is a dubious endeavour : you'll waste time you could spend studying and you don't have the skills to build an elementary algo trading strat yet. Grades trump everything.

>Is having a functional programming background worth it?
It'll make you better at reasoning about algorithms and looks good on a CV. You don't have to get hardcore into it to benefit from it. R actually is a functional language if you're willing to use the right packages (it has partial applications, piping, function composition, map, fold...)

>>38758735
>I thought a sizable portion would be interested at least.
There is, but I doubt it's more than 50 students if even that.
>Are you only talking about M1 grades
Yes, but you don't get good overnight.
>How difficult and intense is the coursework compared to, say, an average CPGE?
Hard to compare, you develop a different skillset.

>>38752027
Who's that anime grill in your pic and where do I find more stern-looking girls in long, black socks like her? I might have discovered a new fetish today.

>>38755528

First two years of college are basically like high school. You're doing general ed. classes like social science, history, math and other b.s. even though it doesn't go with your desired major/job field. So my advice would be to use those two years to learn useful things that can help you in the job field. I found a coding program online and I want to use it to learn coding and web development so I can use it in the job market.

>>38752027
I did the same thing but only because i was on probation. I had to pay about 4 grand in court costs and 120 hours community service for possession of cocaine under 1 gram. I had to work at pizza hut for the 2 years to pay it off and near the end I walked out and had to start working at Wendy's.

>>38759140
>how hard getting these grades is
As you pointed out, getting good enough should be feasible in three years. Especially if I don't do much else than work.
>stochastic calculus
Is that really *the* subject to be an expert in then? I've heard of firms using a lot of other fields than statistics.
>For some positions
Research positions? Those are usually PhDs in either physics or pure math, right?
>growing for sure
Do you think it's going to be a bubble of sorts (since there's so many buzzwords getting thrown around) or is it here to stay?
>acing your licence
Is cramming the best thing to do?
>Grades trump everything
If I don't have to spend time on github contributing to projects that leaves more time for the rest anyway.
>R
Yeah so languages like OCaml or Haskell are good for street cred but ultimately not that useful. I'll focus on R.
>you don't get good overnight
I thought grades went downwards from L1 to L3 rather than the opposite, generally speaking.
I was told maths L1 was easy, L2 was hard, and L3 was hard but more interesting.

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>>38759881
>Is that really *the* subject to be an expert in then? I've heard of firms using a lot of other fields than statistics.
Some firms don't use stochastic calculus at all. Some (sell side banks) are all about it. Whether you'll use it or not is not the point, the masters you want are heavy on mandatory stochastic calc courses and will pay extra attention to your grades on stochastic calc during admissions. Stochastic calc is the solfege of finance.

>Research positions?
Theoretical physics, applied and pure math, statistics, CS, are all good degrees. Ultimately they care less about *what* you did (as long as it's quantitative) and more about *how good* at it you are. But all in all, with EK+PhD in quant fin, you're almost guaranteed to get a quant position.

>bubble
More companies are getting more data and want to extract more value from it. I don't see structural reasons for it to fizzle out although I expect supply/demand to even out on the medium term since all these unis and schools are working hard on pumping out hundreds of data science grads.

Don't let your grades go downwards, some people actually get better and better grades as time goes on (work ethics, more natural to abstraction etc.). Don't forget to have fun and make friends along the way or you'll kill yourself btw. Having a gf is correlated to higher grades too.

>>38759239
Shibuya Rin, you're in luck, she might be #1 fap bait in all of idolmaster so go to it

>>38760669
>the masters you want
By the way, is there a good fallback plan for EK/LE or are they really the only two good master's to get into quant finance?
>all these unis and schools are working hard on pumping out hundreds of data science grads
True, I see a fuck ton of online degrees and micromasters for it as well.
>Don't let your grades go downwards
Does it require a work ethic and routine similar to what you'd expect of someone in an engineering school (i.e. working like a madman)?
>Having a gf is correlated to higher grades
Guess I'll be playing on hard mode

>>38752027
Lmao bruh, I am 25 and just started a second bachelors. Chill out.

>>38752996
Why don't you do it? You are costing society money.

>>38760756
>fallback plan for EK/LE
They are really above the rest. But other good masters you may consider are (in how I'd rank them anyway):

Stat Finance (ENSAE)
MASEF (Dauphine)
Lamberton (UPEM / ENPC)
M2IF (UEVE)
MMMEF (P1 / ENSTA)
ISF (Dauphine)

Finally if you want to look into more theoretical probability theory, there's the Kourkova (M2 Proba from P6) and the Proba/Stat (P11). Both are easier to get into than EK/LE but have harder classes.

>working like a madman
Engineers don't work like madmen, once you're in a school you're mostly on cruise control because the hard work was CPGE, your school will not kick you out, and the alumni network and school brand is usually enough to carry you even if you're a jackass.

What you have to do is all TD, all past exams, do not ever tell yourself "I won't use that course anyway" (you'd be surprised) and when you have free time I recommend strolling through the math library and opening books that look fun to get a "bigger picture" on the math and always be a step ahead of class.

>Guess I'll be playing on hard mode
lmao why do you think people take a bio minor ?

>>38761006
Nice, thanks a bunch man. Just to make sure I'm not completely fucked if it turns out I can't get into either EK or LE.
>all TD, all past exams
>get a "bigger picture"
Basically work normally + actually be interested in the subject. Sounds manageable, though I'll see when I actually start.
>why do you think people take a bio minor
It's not about the supply, more like I'm a huge sperg. It's ok though, I'm pretty sure having a gf isn't mandatory to graduate from P6.

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>>38761106
My pleasure.

Shoot me your discord ID / steam or email on [email protected] if you want to keep in touch.

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>>38760925
Why would I care about that? Fuck society.

If all you care about is making money then sell drugs.
Going to grad school without being passionate about something is just going to make you kill yourself.
Especially when you're living out of your car because the company and seven year minimum unpaid internship.

>>38762757
Barely half of the people who go to grad school are truly passionate about their subject