I'm convinced porn has fucked me up

>>38728961
>I literally chose to watch porn rather than fuck a hot girl that was begging for my dick.

So where's the problem exactly? You did what you wanted more. It's all the same anyway.

Instead of going on to "I'm not gonna touch my willy for an arbitrary amount of time" crusades, learn to drop your delusions of shame.

Have you tried smoking weed and jacking off? It's fucking grrrrrreat!

I want Jordyn Jones to sit on my face.

>>38728961
those girls look rather young OP

>>38728961
I would let either of these girls rub their assholes into my nose and brap down my throat

>>38729014
Imagine being this self deluded

>>38729014
Porn will get me nowhere. Fucking actual women will give me the ability to pair bond, and make me in general a more well rounded person. Choosing porn over real women like I did is pathetic.

>>38729529
>I didn't want to fuck a girl
>it's porn's fault!!!!

>>38729529

It's true tho originally

>>38729599
Yeah, I don't think you're a robot, or even failed normie. If you can "score" women, you should probably go elsewhere and circlejerk there friend

Masturbating isn't the problem, people have been doing that for thousands of years with no ill effects. Porn is a leading cause of erectile dysfunction, though.

Cut the porn but keep the fapping and you'll be fine.

>>38729021
Yes, too many time lol

>>38729603
No, its my fault for letting porn take over so much

>>38729618
I think you're right yeah. I'll try hard mode, but its absolutely the desensitisation from porn that's fucked me.

I don't just wank and cum quickly either. When I do it I edge for at least 20 minutes

>>38728961
>I still do it more or less 4 times a week
That isn't even bad, I fap once a day. But I only like 2D and can barely leave the house, so I'm not sure that this is related.

If you don't have issues socializing then what is the issue if you'd rather fap? I mean clearly you can communicate fairly well, or at least better than me if you can actually get sex. Maybe ask /adv/?

>>38729599
>Porn will get me nowhere. Fucking actual women will give me the ability to pair bond, and make me in general a more well rounded person.

So? Don't be well rounded then.

>Choosing porn over real women like I did is pathetic.

There are no repercussions except those which are self-inflicted.

>>38729614
Doesn't matter lol. Most robots or failed normies on here do, in fact, want to fuck women. Also 99% of people on here have a porn habit, and I guarantee its at hindered them getting laid to varying extents, just like it did with me.

>>38728961
Here's how I do NoFap, OP:
>a week without porn and masturbation
>a week without porn but masturbation
>a week without porn and masturbation
>a week without porn but masturbation

Girls feel real again, they look real again, I don't feel like a pervert, I don't feel like my old self, it works even if you do masturbate as long as you cut out porn.

I simply can't go without cumming for more than maybe a month, but it's not because I'd be horny, I just feel like I need to shoot sometimes in the mornings, to even function properly. I blame it on the heat, in winter I'll be able to go for months without jerking off.
Just cut out the porn and you'll be fine. But that means all porn, get it? Stop coming to r9k for a while too, in the first phase of recovery, every lewd image is already triggering your addiction.

Gets better later on.

>>38729603
No, he clearly did want to fuck her. He's just addicted to porn.
I'm guessing you're a permavirgin justifying the fact that you jerk off instead of fucking girls.
>I-it's b-better I s-swear!

>>38729612
No it isn't.
Let's say a heroin addict has the chance to get clean. He has a loving family waiting for him at home to help him recover. He knows he wants to go home and get over his addiction but the addiction is too strong so he goes down to the local heroin hut and gets high.
It's the same for OP. He knows he wants the real thing but his addiction has taken over.

>>38729665
The issue is I regretted it before I even got home, because I do actually want to fuck. My subconscious brain just tried to make me go home quickly to wank instead of trying to fuck the fit girl right in front of me, and I think that's quite depressing.

or completely disavow women and come to terms with jacking off your entire life? not really hard.

i only have to feel this way for like 20 more years then i'll be so old i won't give a shit anymore.

>>38728961

Is it because you watch porn, or is it because you clearly masturbate to non-porn images? You have a picture of social media image which makes me think you masturbate to images that are inherently non-pornographic

>>38729696
Thank you. I've been coming here less and less because its just been filled with BLACKED memes and such lately. Really needed to get this off my chest though so I came back.

I think the best way to cut out the habit is to stop spending time on my laptop and force myself to play video games and such. Its hardly productive but if it keeps me from wanking I'm happy with it.

I'm addicted to weed, cigarettes and alcohol too but those seem like far better addictions to have than Porn desu

>>38728961
That's fine and all, but I don't get WHY you'd want to have sex. Personally, I've convinced myself sex is solely for procreation but I find it immoral for me to breed. I have a ton of sexual energy at the moment, and while I don't watch lien often, I don't see why it would matter unless you wanted to be a normie.

>>38729698

>Let's say a heroin addict has the chance to get clean. He has a loving family waiting for him at home to help him recover. He knows he wants to go home and get over his addiction but the addiction is too strong so he goes down to the local heroin hut and gets high. It's the same for OP. He knows he wants the real thing but his addiction has taken over.

Addictions aren't real. OP did what he did because he wanted it more. Heroin addict keeps using it bea=cause the drug is more important to him.

>>38729764
>I don't get WHY you'd want to have sex
how far down the rabbit hole must you be to ask this unironically

>>38729731
I do wank to porn, but hence the subject of the post I didn't want to post any actual porn lol

>>38729711
Or I could take an effort to improve myself. I know for a fact that I would be happier in real relationships as I grow up than I would be married to porn. You're deluding yourself if you think it doesn't matter

>>38729771
>How can our addictions be real if our eyes aren't real
Shut up, Jaden

>>38729771
>Addictions aren't real.
Are you retarded?
Are you just baiting me?
If you genuinely believe this get your head checked.

>>38729788
Well, I explained in my post why I don't seek sex. Years of fermenting in isolation led me to realise I'M the problem. If sex (in my mind) only should be used for having kids, why would i want to pass down whatever problems I have? I don't believe in birth control, condoms, etc, for myself and hence, never use them.

>>38729791
you can improve yourself and still disavow women, what are you trying to talk about. where in my post did i say anything about anything mattering?

i just see someone rationalizing really hard.

>>38729801
>>38729812

They are absolutely not real. I'm not baiting. Every "addict" of every kind is simply a person too spineless to admit that they like doing what they're doing.

>Oh, man, I would, like, totally stop drinking, but my hands, bro, they're pouring another glass by themselves! So unfair ;(

>>38729791
>find gf
>she's used goods but watevs, amirite?
>goes ok for a while, pay for her shit
>she starts to grow distant
>at least I have a gf; mad virgins?
>long story short, she either chucks you, literally, or marries you and leaves you with half your shit

Sure, it would feel good for a while, but I've gone 20, almost 21 years alone. I can go another 20 without some nagging hole

>>38729788
Reality begins and ends with you, friend.

>>38729831
>personal happiness and fulfilment doesn't matter

Porn won't give me any of these things. Real women will *contribute* towards them

>>38729815
I'm sorry you think you have nothing of value to pass down. I can't really relate to that

>>38729848
I didn't necessarily want to gf her just wanted some experience. The fact that my male fucking instincts aren't properly wired is what scares me

>>38729754
I managed to quit those three as well. Convinced myself weed is waste of money and slowly distanced myself from other people that smoked. You only see weed as cool because of the people that you smoke with, and because of the weed culture (420 etc.), there's not much substance to it, desu.

Cigarettes were difficult because I was afraid of getting fat. So I substituted them with exercise. At first, it was extremely tough because I was so ridiculously out of shape, but as my lungs recovered, my routine improved. If you know why you're quitting and are determined to do it, only first couple of days are tough, then it gets easier. It also helps to watch documentaries and various anti-smoking commercials, later on you will convince yourself that people who smoke are idiots and you will silently hold onto that fact when encountering smokers. It will prevent you from lighting up ever again.

Alcohol is the hardest of them all, because it's the drug of the oversocialized. You either drink it, or you are forced to spend your friday nights at home, doing nothing. If you don't drink and go out, you will feel incredibly bored and a complete outsider, as you won't have near as much "fun" as the others. My advice is to simply limit your intake. My rule is 2 units is the limit. Once I drank two units of whatever alcohol's available, I stop drinking. If I feel like the people around me will binge, I drink them fast, because that way I get some initial effect of being intoxicated, which helps me blend in with particularly drunk crowd. However, I will never have a hangover ever again, and that is the beautiful thing about quitting. Imagine a life with no hangovers, and no morning thing of "oh god, what have I done last night?", no feeling of humiliation, no feeling of physical weakness the following day. It's beautiful.

In any case, I hope you tackle all of them!

>>38729846
Their brain chemistry likes it. They don't.
When an addict doesn't get what they're addicted to their brain starts to get the shits. There's suddenly a chemical imbalance.
The person doesn't actually want the drugs deep down because they know they're better off without them but going through the stages of withdrawal is fucking awful.

There is both behavioural observation evidence for addiction and hard evidence like brain scans. An addict's brain is different to a regular person's.

Your standpoint on addiction is literally muh opinion.

>>38729879
It's not so say I have nothing of "value" (which is a spook) to pass down, it's that my family on my dad's side has a history of depression, autism, OCD, and a ton of other diseases that just make life not that fun and I realise this. I'm guessing other people including women notice this and that's why I've always been alone. I'm not going to try and fix this because it's my duty to not have kids and continue this streak of suffering.


Also, you are wired "correctly"; you get off at all. If it's to women, you're definitely wired correctly. Real women just can't compete

>>38729941
I wouldn't mind about cigarettes if it wasn't for the price.

Weed is pretty much pointless too but I don't really have many hobbies to it keeps me satisfied. That needs to change.

Alcohol however I'm fine with completely desu, I'm young and getting smashed is definitely fun. I have no intention of keeping this up for life or anything though.

Porn adds absolutely nothing and just drains me. It needs to end

>>38729879
or just jack off the rest of your life not using porn, while improving yourself, while disavowing women.

not hard and was done for centuries. you're just naive and sound like a pretentious 16 year old.

>>38729984
I'd rather have real women though. If I abstain from pornography then they can compete lol

>>38730001
Women are women and are crazy etc etc i know

Why would I want to disavaow them though? And why does wanting to fuck women make me a naive and pretentious 16 year old lol

>>38729954
>Your standpoint on addiction is literally muh opinion.

It's the truth. Your babble is a pathetic way of rationalizing an "addicts" weakness.

>Muh brainscans

Someone who uses destructive substances extensively has a fucked up brain? Whoa

>The person doesn't actually want the drugs deep down because they know they're better off
>Oh man, I totally DON"T want to drink, but it's kinda hard not to lol oh well that's life right? ;) hehe *takes a sip*

Pathetic

>>38730019
i'm not saying you would want to disavow them, i'm presenting an alternative to your little epiphany for other people and as an example.

i said you sound like a pretentious 16 year old and not because of that reason you self-projected, just in general.

>>38730002
>If I abstain from pornography then they can compete lol

Not exactly. Your porn consumption is competing with your own ego. You view yourself as a lesser being - that is why you are abstaining. Let go and you will win. No outer force will affect you anymore.

>>38730044
Don't get me wrong here, anon. I don't take the extremely liberal stance of "addiction is a disease" etc.
I do think that people who can't overcome addiction lack some sort of strength.
But that doesn't mean addiction isn't real.

OP clearly wants a real girl. He's just so used to fapping that he doesn't know what to do. His brain has literally re-wired itself to associate sex with jerking off to porn.
You say addicts only choose their addictions because "lol they r fun". Have you ever seen a happy heroin addict? Are the porn addicted NEETs of this board happy?
They're not doing it because it makes them happy, they're doing it because it's what they've come to know.
Humans naturally take the road they know instead of changing.

So, no. "Addictions don't real" is wrong. You clearly don't understand addiction or human psychology.

>>38730142
Summed it up well here

>>38730142

>You say addicts only choose their addictions because "lol they r fun".

Not at all, I said they choose it because they want it more than the alternative. OP did what he did because at the time it was more appealing to him. Happiness has nothing to do with it. We are practically in agreement:

>Humans naturally take the road they know instead of changing.

It's the same thing.

>So, no. "Addictions don't real" is wrong. You clearly don't understand addiction or human psychology.

What's to understand? It's hardly a science

>>38730264
>What's to understand?
>they want it more than the alternative.
That this ^ is wrong.
They've become addicted to fapping. They don't want it, it's just all they could get. Now they realise that their excessive porn use fucked up their brain chemistry and they can't have what they really want.

>>38730309

We were talking about OP and his choices. He clearly had access to both at the same time and chose what he wished more.

>>38730371
Now we're back to the start again are we?
Okay, I'll make it simple:
He does not WANT porn. He is ADDICTED to porn.
Get it? Or do I have to explain how when one does something excessively the brain rewires itself again?

>>38730413
>Now we're back to the start again are we?
Of course, you said:
>They don't want it, it's just all they could get.
This is clearly not the case for OP.

>He does not WANT porn. He is ADDICTED to porn.
Again, clearly not the case. He was presented both and chose the more appealing option. The fact that he came here lamenting his choice is irrelevant - if he did not want it, he would not have chosen it.

>Get it?
Sure, you obviously don't.

>Or do I have to explain how when one does something excessively the brain rewires itself again?
>Muh doupameen

Explain away.

>>38730560
>This is clearly not the case for OP.
>is
>They don't want it, it's just all they could get.
>could
Present and past tense.

>He was presented both and chose the more appealing option.
He chose the path of least resistance. The path that he knows.
People rely on previous experience to make their choices. OP's previous experience with sex was masturbation. So he chose that instead of trying something new. It's not that he didn't want the something new, it's that he wasn't familiar with it.
Do some reading on psychology and why people make self destructive decisions.

>>Muh doupameen
So dopamine don't real now too?

>>38730659
Look anon, the jig is up.

I was actually baiting. I think addictions are real, and most of your points have a lot of sense in them. This conversation was completely pointless. But you just kept responding.

>>38730890
Well I am on r9k so clearly I have nothing better to do.

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>>38728961
My advice is to get out, normie

I just got a call to go to the supermarket to pick up a prescription for my mom. While these, I was a girl who I would like to do TERRIBLE FUCKING SHIT to... SEXUALLY! Oh my goddddddddd stick it in there and UNF UNF UNF UNF DE LA UNF UNF! I'm high as FUCK right now holy shit tutti fruition I'm in a fucking high ass condition! I went home and jacked off IMMEDIATELY!!

>>38728961
Porn has killed my sex drive. Really hard to masturbate to anything that isn't memories when my dick is really hard in the morning. To be honest I crave normal girls in porn, they're os rare

>>38728961
>>38731018
Name of this female of legal age?

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>>38731540
Jordyn Jones

She's 17 and change

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>fucking 3dpd girls
fucking losers

>>38728961
>4 times a week.
i do it for 3+ times per day for last two years.
once in a day for last 7 years probably

kisless virign, skinny and 5/10