NoFap

NoFap is for people who fap 5 times every day.
If you fap once daily, you're fine.

>>38495687

This how you can tell when someone is a virgin. Normies do not have sex everyday contrary to popular belief in our hypersexualized culture and pornography. Chad isn't banging women all day everyday. At the most he probably has sex every third day. Nofap is for manginas to blame all their problems on porn because they wank more than 5 times a day and cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

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>>38495709
>>38495745

Nice moving of the goal post there anon

>>38495687
The idea is that sex is different psychologically than masturbation.

>>38495751

>His whole post was a whole fallacy
>Gets corrected
>durr nice moving of the goal post hurr

kys

>>38495745
Had a nympho gf, it was getting to the point that I had to make excuses to get away from this shit.
once a day is great when you're 16, or for a week. But it gets old fast when older.

The sex is also much much better after a few days without.

sex is so different from masturbation though. it's not just about the orgasm, it's about that post-coital glow, where your hormones are telling you that everything is alright because there's a beautiful woman lying right next to you

>>38495687

A bit of refrain makes any sex much better.

>>38495745
>>38496349
This so much, sex every few days is fine, sex every single day is tiring and honestly finding the time is difficult. Shower afterwards because you don't want to swap drenched in sweat so that's another 15 minutes to the first 15-30 minutes to half an hour of sex. It gets better too if you wait.

>>38496384
I can get that with my dakimakura though

>>38496568
more power to you, then

origami

>>38495687
>The one on the far left
Yare yare daze

>>38495687
Having sex is not the same as wanking.

if you do nofap for the sole purpose of getting sex or a girlfriend you are going to fail miserably

nofap is about simply experiencing life more.

that's because masturbating isn't the same as sex

sex is earned (or bought) but masturbation is instant gratification. It teaches your brain to pursue short term pleasure and bursts of dopamine rather than long term gains which are more fulfilling

EXACTLY
jesus fuck

Like what, it's theoretically supposed to be about test levels? Your test goes down when you ejaculate? Then why is it okay for guys to have sex every day? Is chads genetic code fundamentally different than ours that he's higher test? If so, why do nofap if it's in vain? I don't believe that's the case but just to make the point.

Jacking off in a pussy = jacking off in your hand, PHYSIOLOGICALLY SPEAKING. Which is the only thing that's relevant here.

>>38496835
>Your test goes down when you ejaculate? Then why is it okay for guys to have sex every day?

test goes up when you fuck another human

>>38496787
Thanks mister scientist man

it's so simple!

>>38496845
Bull
Fucking
Shit

Burden of proof is on you here f@m

>>38496869
>>38496877
it is quite simple

>>38496881
https://www.anabolicmen.com/sex-and-testosterone/

>>38496835
skin on skin contact particularly sex releases massive doses of oxytocin that can't be replicated by fapping. This oxytocin helps level out the prolactin that makes you feel like empty after you ejaculate because you have a warm mate next to you. which is why sex is more satisfying afterwards than fapping.
fapping specifically to porn also releases more dopamine than sex due to the endless novelty which means after fapping you are not only full of prolactin with absolutely no oxytocin to help you feel better but your dopamine regulation has been completely shot to shit.

fapping to porn might feel better in the moment but after you cum it's fucking destructive. which is why so many people fall into the trap of having to constantly fap to porn multiple times a day because it's the only thing they enjoy.

>>38496787
lol what
the only thing that fapping does is decrease your desire to find a sexual partner. having no goals in life is an entirely different problem.

>>38496933
>the only thing that fapping does is decrease your desire to find a sexual partner. having no goals in life is an entirely different problem.

categorically wrong
do some research

Nofap is just leftist propaganda financed by globalists in order to spread feminism more and more. See who is behind every muh nofap organization.

>>38496933
No. It's the same thing that happens to drug users. porn is like a very low grade drug but still a drug. the more you use it the less receptive you are to trivial daily things. Last time I did a 30 day streak I watched the sunset and it was like I was seeing the sky for the first time in 10 years. porn is numbing. most insidious because people don't realize until it's already fucked up a lot of their life due to "it's normal man"

>>38496950
point me to some of your research then, because this isnt the case for me. i am constantly trying to achieve something in life and i always have multiple goals that im trying to fulfill yet i fap every 3-4 days

>>38496980
are you fucking kidding me lmao?

leftists want you fap as much as you can until you can only get off the crossdressing and sticking carrots up your arse

>>38496912
>which is why so many people fall into the trap of having to constantly fap to porn multiple times a day because it's the only thing they enjoy

If you "fall for this trap" you are an actual autist and have other issues. I'm a khv and don't have an issue going a few days without fapping. After a week yeah it's fucking hard as hell but you're talking about multiple times a day. I mean I guess "comfortably" speaking I do twice a day, but currently I haven't in 2 days actually and I'm fine.

One thing about porn too is that I don't want to miss out on it. That sounds silly but this is the literal golden age of porn and I like it. I like how everyone draws it, I really like how r34 is a thing and is so popular, I enjoy that I'm experiencing the internet as it should be.
It's just the idea of living within one's time that I like. I'm young and this is what young people like today. I won't cuck myself out of it. Wakfu season 3 is coming out and there's going to be a lot of great porn and I'm going to jack off to it a lot.

>>38496985
>30 day streak
the thing is that i dont fap that often. look at >>38496994
or am i still considered to be an addict?

>>38497012

Male sexual liberation is negative for feminists because it teach males to not being a slave of the vagina person. They want you to worship females all the time while they enjoy and ask for more and more benefits.

See how butthurt are they with the sexbots for example.

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>>38497012
liking traps is 21st century redpilled. Same with liking hentai and videogames. Youth culture, man. Be of your own kind.

>>38497012
I fap at least once a day and I think gays or worse should be nailed to a cross. The meme that fapping makes you degenerate is a lie. Mental illness makes you a degenerate.

>>38497059

What if I told you fapping is degenerate in on itself?

>>38497140
He wouldn't give a fucking shit

>>38497057

>sexual liberation
>jerking off in front of a screen

Yeah, keep telling yourself that by stroking your pickle you actually fight for men's rights.

>>38497176

>invest all your free time and lifeforce to just inserting your pickle inside an open wound for 3-15 mins is liberation

kek, make sure to work even harder for that open wound arent you a loser?

>>38497222

>You're a cuck by trying to fulfill your natural desires for human acceptance, sexual intimacy and reproduction

Jerking off sucks out your time and life-force with absolutely nothing to show for it

>>38495687
I do ten days streaks.
I think the 30 day shit is mad.
The energy you get is great.

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>>38495687
nofap is the single stupidest thing, the real thing you just need to get your life together is discipline

if you have the discipline to stop masturbating you have the discipline to get your life together, it's correlation but not causation.

masturbation is healthy

>>38497301

>Jerking off sucks out your time and life-force

Sure, 15 minutes is such a waste to avoid years and years of being enslaved by vaginas.

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>>38497353

>trying to use discipline to break a habit is the stupidest thing, because what you REALLY need is discipline

>trying to find a job is the stupidest thing because you should be rich already

>>38497367

Firstly, jerking off makes you sleepy and unfocused for several hours, not "15 minutes"

Secondly, the pleasure of jerking off is nowhere near the pleasure of human intimacy

All in all: you're delusional

>>38497439
You know a lot about human intimacy?
Feel free to leave then

If not
Then stfu

>>38497222
Nobody told you to fuck a post op tranny, geeze Anon

>>38497439

Thanks for correcting the record Dr Broscience.

If you have a job and a social life then you'll end up doing nofap coincidentally because you don't have the time, and you're always around other people so your likelihood of sex is increasing.

Doing nofap when you're gonna continue to stay indoors at your computer all day is absolute fucking madness.

So yeah there's a correlation between fapping less and being a successful human being but you've got cause and effect backwards.

>>38497390
>strawman
>misinterpreting one's argument to make it easier to attack

>>38497452

I had a girlfriend at the age of 18, and I can tell you that the emotional pleasure of goofing around with her and cuddling without a care in the world, of knowing that you can call/text her at any moment, trumps the pleasure of a hundred jerk-offs

All the faggots who go on about how sex-bots and pornography are men's liberation forget about this, maybe because they have autism and don't comprehend emotions well

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>>38497482

I got full time employed for 3 years and still fapped like 1-3 times a day while still being a complete khv sperglord. Did nofap for 7 days with no changes when the meme was the new hot thing.

But since i am a disgusting shitskin manlet with a small dick there is no difference, i am too inferior for girls when they have Chad and Jamal in their cellphones. Nofap could work if i was either white, tall or big dicked.

B-But your dick and brain totally know if you're fapping or if you're pounding some pussy!!11

>>38497353
>masturbation is healthy

masturbating 7 times a day 7 days a week is not

>>38497612

If your brain doesn't know the difference then you must be a virgin, lmao

>>38497620
good strawman

someone else said this

>>38497620
no it's not, but there is a subset of people who go into no fap being told that if they stop masturbating that they'll get more confident with women and that they'll have more energy and focus to better their lives

that's total bullshit

if you have a masturbation problem solve it however you want but don't lure other loser virgin posters with false claims without evidence aside from retarded reddit success stories

i was just pointing out the irony in that the thing that people are doing to better their lives requires more discipline than actually bettering their lives in the first place.

>>38497721

You can call me a "retarded reddit success story", but reducing the frequency of masturbation really does improve your sense of self-confidence and improves focus

Obiously it's not like you become a superhuman once you abstain for a certain number of days, but the difference is noticeable

It's stupid to just dismiss it as "total bullshit", if it was total bullshit indeed there would be no reddit success stories

>>38496568
No you can't. You just think that because you're a mentally challenged virgin

>>38497797
Sources for this, besides stupid Reddit bulshit...?

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Who gives a shit what other people do?

Youre not them. Do what works for you.

>>38497828

Personal experience and the personal experiences of Reddit users

Do you want a study? How the fuck would you measure someone's self confidence? LMAO

>>38497797
>anecdotal
>using personal experience or an isolated example instead of a valid argument

you know what doctors say helps with depression and lethargy?

exercise, it's proven through controlled testing too!

obviously it's not like you become a superhuman but the difference is noticeable

You guys are morons.
Nofap is not about test levels but about willpower.

I do not defend it but I certainly understand how it would help. If you stop jacking off to your darkest fetishes and all that weird shit you like, you'll eventually overcome your addiction.
Because to a lot of people porn is an addiction, it gives unrealistic expectations of sex/women, drains your stamina and makes you mentally numb.

You'll also be more of a straight edge if you are 2 horny constantly because no fapping.

Anyway the real demon is porn

>>38495687
>normies have sex everyday
>posts a Jewish dude between a bunch of highly paid whores

sex is overrated.
and you're on the wrong board.

>>38497140
true.

Actually, once per month is already clearly "excessive fapping".

Fapping is not natural because it's a response to a problem (unwanted sexual arousal, artificial, or made up) that normally should not exist (because fapping is not a consequence of fertility).

But - for science - let's arbitrarily state that fapping is a response to "no sex".

Then, since sex is biologically intended for procreation, and since a woman's maximum fertility day only happens about once in a month (biologically is nonsense to try to procreate in a less-than-optimally fertile day, except if there is a reasonable probability that the most fertile day the impregnator is absent), then the unquestionable scientific conclusion is that fapping once per month already means "desperately craving for sex" in every biologically reasonable "day of the month". That is, you already maxed out the problem.

We're talking here about biology, not religion.


>TL;DR: a priest would never allow you more than zero fapping in a lifetime.

>>38497870

>you know what doctors say helps with depression and lethargy?
>exercise, it's proven through controlled testing too!

Oh ok, so I guess that if one thing is good then another can't be

Thanks mr Science

>>38497895
http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/69/2/183.short

the point is that you're suffering in vain, there is no difference if testosterone. but after sexual activity if anything there is a small spike in testosterone for those who masturbate or have sex. the same has been proven with humans and discussed by loads of doctors already

there were also cases were NFL athletes were told to have sex or masturbate before a game
http://mmajunkie.com/2009/03/ask-the-doc-does-abstinence-really-boost-athletic-performance

>>38497977
>middle ground
>saying or implying that a compromise or middle point between the two extremes is the truth

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But Chads actually are doing something to release their seeds on a REAL woman, be it taking care of themselves, building a social life, pursuing women etc. fapping is just loading whatever thing you feel like to fapping to that day and overloading your brain with visual stimuli, releasing your seed and therefore dopamine in your brain as a reward for doing absolutely nothing. Essentially raping your hand (or a piece of plastic if you use fleshlights or onaholes)
Fapping without looking up porn or using your imagination is less detrimental but still somewhat bad.

>>38498038

>middle ground

What?

What I said is that the fact that exercise makes you feel good is in no way an argument against nofap

>>38498220
you were trying to compromise by implying that they could both exist as truth

no, nofap doesn't increase testosterone this is a fact.

there is also no evidence that nofap helps with depression, apathy, or lethargy. "your own story" isn't reliable proof of the connection between breaking free of depression and holding back on masturbation.

fuck off, go get prostate cancer somewhere else. gullible nofap fags would've been in a cult getting cucked by some guru a few decades ago.

>>38498401

>no, nofap doesn't increase testosterone this is a fact.

I havent said one word about testosterone, must have gotten me confused with someone

>there is also no evidence that nofap helps with depression, apathy, or lethargy. "your own story" isn't reliable proof of the connection between breaking free of depression and holding back on masturbation.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2009.01677.x/full

"In a large representative sample of the Swedish population, PVI frequency was a significant predictor of both men's and women's greater satisfaction with their mental health [11]. In contrast, masturbation was inversely associated with mental health satisfaction in the multivariate analyses that controlled for other sexual behavior frequencies, and partnered sexual behaviors other than PVI were uncorrelated with mental health satisfaction [11]."

The subject of masturbation has had little research done, but there is proof of the mentally detrimental effects of it.

My own story doesn't matter shit, but there are countless stories like that on nofap forums, and that should warrant further research instead of angry shitposting.

>fuck off, go get prostate cancer somewhere else. gullible nofap fags would've been in a cult getting cucked by some guru a few decades ago.

Someone got triggered lol

How do I acquire discipline?
I need to get to work. Unfortunately my work is CS which involves being on the computer so I can't "turn off my laptop and toss it in a corner"

>>38496384
>it's not just about the orgasm, it's about that post-coital glow
>post-coital glow

You what nigga? Stop making shit up, there is no such thing as "post coital glow". Nature does not fucking work this way. Your body does not magically know the difference between real sex and self masturbation.

Day 28 of nofap here

I feel fantastic when I wake up. I feel much more clearheaded, motivated, and have MUCH less anxiety. I feel like it would take a lot now to make me anxious. I also don't "drool" over an attractive woman in public and feel like I'd actually be able to talk to one without being a bumbling nervous idiot.

My erections feel much stronger now too. I think if you're having problems getting it up or maintaining an erection during sex, nofap is probably your best bet.

>>38498835

>I think if you're having problems getting it up or maintaining an erection during sex

Why do you retards talk so normally about having sex like it's so normal for everyone in 4chan.

>>38498807

>Stop making shit up, there is no such thing as "post coital glow".

Top kek
Wanna know how I know you're a kissless virgin?

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>>38498605
except that this is correlation not causation friend

you need a study that makes depressed people change nothing about their lives other than dropping their masturbation sessions to zero, and then see if it changes anything. compare it to exercise or SSRIs, and i guarantee you that it will perform only as well as a placebo if at all. unfortunately such a study doesn't exist because nobody would ruin their reputation to even attempt it

>Someone got triggered lol
i literally don't care about you, i'm just sick of all these idiots who fall for these snake oil memes and get on some high horse like they're better than everyone else for doing so.

no better than normies with their activated almonds and kale shakes

>>38498988

So, basically

>there is a study showing a statistically significant negative correlation between masturbation and mental well-being in a large population
>there are countless (r/NoFap has 240.000+ subscribers) anecdotal experiences of people improving their mental well-being by abstaining
>there is no study to either prove or disprove a causation

And instead of saying there MIGHT be something to it, and that there should be further research, you "can guarantee" (out of your ass) that you know the truth

You make fun of scientifically illiterate people, but what you're doing is the exact opposite of science - dismissing hypotheses without proper examination

Probably you're just addicted to jerking off and trying to rationalize keeping up the habit - and it's ok, just don't shit on other people

I'm off to gym, see you around

>>38499286
enjoy your snake oil nofap placebo, come back once the connection between not wanking it to improving brain chemistry is concrete fact.

>I'm off to gym, see you around
contrived, how sad!

I think the reason why nofap is working for people is the same reason religion is working for people.

They put faith in it. On top of that, nofap will for many people be the first form of self descipline they've ever experienced.

You could limit your pc time, you could force yourself to go out everyday for 1 hour, you could force yourself to talk to people more, or you could force yourself to not touch your wiener to teach yourself that you can be dedicated towards a goal.

Once you've realized that you can keep being committed to a something you want to do, you realize that you can add other commitments.

I highly doubt touching your dick or watching porn will stop you from growing if you have other commitments going for you.

I get the idea that too much masturbation will take very much time away from you, but i don't think that 'overstimulation' will put a dent in your existing motivation to self improvement.

Your brain is not just 'ooga booga i want to cum'.

>>38497140
Elaborate more on this please i am really interested please anon

>>38497531
Obviously we are talking about masturbation, not real love

NoFap is a shit cancer "self improvement" meme that honestly does nothing. Girls don't ignore you because they secretly know you jerk off 20 times in a week. They ignore you because you're a dork who has nothing to offer them.

>>38497864
You see a very rare succesful social interaction that you had with another human as a noticeable rise of self-confidence?