Move to China

>>38461431
You know how many horrible webms of people being fucking destroyed in China I've seen?
I'd rather go to Taiwan

>>38461454
Taiwan is China though, it's a province.

Have you checked if that's difficult?

I've heard that getting any visas to China is nearly impossible.

Plus, the country just seems like a disaster, with all of the smog and poison.

If I had to move to Asia, I'd much rather move to somewhere a bit nicer and less oppressive, maybe Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc.

I do agree with you about Japan, though. It would be nice to visit, but moving there, hell no.

>>38461481
Not if you ask the Taiwanese.

because i can't into tonal languages

japanese pitch accent isn't too hard but there's no way i could learn chinese

>>38461602
>I'd much rather move to somewhere a bit nicer and less oppressive
The "China is oppressive" meme is western propaganda m8, as long as you don't start publicly denouncing the government you'll be fine.

>>38461431

Serptenza is from South Africa, anything is better by comparison

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"Champ here is already way ahead of you. Isn't that right, Champ?"

Lol

Winston must look so silly walking around Shenzhen with a suit and selfie stick in 30c heat

>>38461431
Tell me more anon, I'm interested.
What can I do if I don't know the language?

>>38461431
china is seriously a pretty cool place to live

Yeah, it's not a first world country. It's gonna be dirty. There's gonna be poor people.

But there's a certain kind of freedom living in third world countries you can never experience in the west

Walking through a city like shenzhen you can really feel it, it's one of the coolest cities in the world

I wouldn't mind living there honestly

>>38463186
Chinese is not that hard to learn
If you live there for a year you'll be fluent

>>38461431
Fuck that shit. I wouldn't go live there even if I was paid to.

t. second generation chink

>>38461602
>less oppressive
>Cambodia, Vietnam,
??

>>38461481
You'll never make friends with anyone from Taiwan if you think this way.

>>38463839
All those other countries have a great number of retirees, that's a good indicator of a nicer and more affordable environment

Would only consider it, if I had money, otherwise it's better to be poor in Europe.

My relatives in China though are quite wealthy, have several real estates, cars and whatever.

Good for them, but I don't want to have any relationship with them.

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no dude there's no alienation , we are dead.
we are all dead.

>>38461431
Chink here, unless you've got at least 50% asian facial features you're in for a bad time. Been around China following my father's business for a while. As a principle, most chinks doing business will cheat each other, but they'll cheat outsiders more than they will each other. iirc they passed a law a long while ago that prevents any non-citizens from owning property, not sure what exactly happened to that. Also low-level corruption is rampant and you need connections to get a lot of things done much faster. In order to grease palms you need a background first, that's the most important thing in China. Relatives or close friends of high ranking officials or state/regional officials have it very easy.

Regardless, you'll need to find a group of chinese/locals to hang with, otherwise there'll be absolutely no difference from China and the West. And enjoy learning 10,000+ Chinese characters to be literate. Honestly, if you aren't Asian there really is no point. I personally like it better in the Wes. In Asia, humans have far less value since there are so many of them. In the West, there is a lot of focus on human rights and individual contribution.

tl;dr it's a bad idea unless you're asian and can blend in

>>38464123
Free software fanatics

>>38464134
If you're white and go to China you will be a pussy magnet.