MGTOW is right

>sex is the only thing that matters
Virgin turbo nihilism as usual.

>>38435526

I hate women and that video is degenerate as fuck

I'm rock hard after watching it tho, desu

>>38435545
You don't value what you have bro, try forced celibate, its kills the soul.

>>38435526
>>stop working
>>stop going to school
>>stop paying taxes

Done. Until we get pussy socialism/redistribution I will be doing the bare minimum, all I need is my video games and my porn. I make just enough money to chill, the GDP/Economy can get fucked.

>wears an XXXTentacion shirt
>has sex at all
this video is 100% fake

>>38435832
Do incels actually have souls anyway? Most dudes get laid anyway lol

>>38435963
This was back when he was xxxtentacion's manager.

>>38435526
Why not
>work
>pay taxes
>have sex

>>38435526

literally nothing wrong with having a ffm threesome with your gf. Most guys need some fresh pussy after a year or so of being with the same girl anyways, better than cheating on them.

>>38435526
1. That's an embarassing misunderstanding of a Pareto principle.
2. MGTOWs are delusional. Regardless of how many excuses you're going to make up, your crave for female companionship and affection quite literally will never go away. You either kill yourself or play a rigged game, like everybody else.

>>38435526
>tfw same situation

Do it with my friend and her bf.

>>38436631

> your crave for female companionship and affection quite literally will never go away.

ok. The cravings might never go away, but I don't necessarily want them to.
They're still better off unsatisfied. Cravings can be sublimated into other things.

>>38436631
>your crave for female companionship
Actually it does eventually, it went away 100% at 21 for me.

>>38435526

Breaking fucking news, civilization is bad? What a surprise
Even if it was 100/100 it'd still be shite. Overpopulation, stupidity, greed, etc., etc. The chad is annoying and rage inducing, but you gotta solve the big problem first.

>>38435526
MGTOW is gay, you guys are such fucking delusional faggots, you know damn well, and so do I, that if any female gave you the slightest bit of attention you would drop your MGTOW bullshit without a second thought. Who do you think your kidding? (Besides yourself of course)

>>38436631

I'm bi and have a waifu (male). I'm just mad that someone dares to be better than me, with a special status. I'd put chad in the same hole with geniuses, sportsmen, supermodels and businessmen and bury them alive in the mashed pulp of their children.

>>38436896
I fucking despise female personalities to the point where even their bodies repulse me.

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The problem with MGTOW is they placed women on pedestals for their entire lives, and when that beta mentality failed to pan out for them, instead of embracing manhood, which is what women desire, they instead run and hide like a scared kid under their beds.
They're angry that life isn't the way their liberal parents and teachers taught them it is.
Could you imagine their reaction to home invaders?
Jesus, what a collection of weak jackasses.
They were just typical liberal numales who eventually figured out the truth, and didn't know how to handle it.
Run away little betas.
We'll fix the problems in society while you cry into your pillows.
You don't deserve to procreate.
Women need strength and security, and you are the antithesis of it.

>>38436896
>that if any female gave you the slightest bit of attention you would drop your MGTOW bullshit without a second thought.

that's okay though. That means a girl came to you instead of you wasting time chasing after girls.

Mgtow isn't about swearing off of woman, its about not struggling for woman. You let them come and go and enjoy it while it last while never compromising like men are suppose to.

>>38436952
>We'll fix the problems in society while you cry into your pillows.

Great. Enjoy it, have fun goy. I'll be over here traveling, fucking random women, keeping all my money and NOT getting married, shitting out kids, or working hard so Tyrone's kids can eat.

>>38436952
Pretty much this. MGTOW is just incels plus sour grapes.

>>38436966
>it's about not struggling for women
No, it's about being angry that you're a beta numale faggot, and instead of manning up, you run away and hide.
I've watched plenty of MGTOW videos.
All you weaklings do is talk about how awful women are and how unfair everything is.
Yeah, that's life faggot.
It's blatantly obvious how incredibly important women are to you MGTOW's.
You're so hurt about their repeated rejection of you that you created an entire movement just to say, 'fuck you women, we don't care that you don't want us, we don't want YOU now!'
It's so disingenuous.
You don't obsess over females all the time if you don't care about their approval.
MGTOW is clearly a reactionary movement to being discarded by women.
I can't imagine why no women would want a man like you.
It must be misandry.

>>38436952
it's called having principles. Watch the "YOLO" video on youtube. That's a fine observation of the perversity of the state of society in this day and age. Society is justifiably rejectable.

Go fix your society, I wouldn't want anything to do with that filth that inhabits it even if you handed it to me on a silver platter. I have seen society and it was disgusting to witness. Only dogs would want to live in it.

>>38437008
>don't breed goy
>don't build a family
>only put effort into things that are selfish
>if women don't just fall all over your acne-ridden beta ass right away, then it's because they hate you for no reason and you should abandon their entire gender
Seriously, you copped out like a weakling, and you're just trying to frame it like you have it all figured out.
Society relies on us being strong.
You abandoning your role, only hurts the countless boys out there that you claim to care about.
Fuck you and fuck your gay little movement.

>>38437132
You don't change society by running away from it.
That's the reaction of a scared little boy.

>>38437161
>Society relies on us being strong.

This society/civilization/system is totally fucked from top to bottom. Binding yourself to a woman who can say "teehee, I don't love you anymore" at any time for any reason, take half your stuff and claim child support is just FUCKING DUMB BRO.

>Applying the Pareto Principle to sex
Yeah, pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Population of 300,000,000 in the USA, let's divide it by four so we get a more accurate number of males in our age range. Doing that we get 75,000,000 so now we have to take the square root of that. So now we get a number of around 9,000. You are suggesting that 9,000 men in America get half of the sex? It seems a bit far fetched.

>>38437092
Why do you care?

More chicks for you, right?

As an aside - "manning up"? Bitch please.

>>38437092

You get all types in MGTOW, people just point towards the obvious neckbeards who jumped on the bandwagon even though no one ever wanted them, but that's not all of them. The problem is because woman are so picky guys with less value like myself have to put in a ridiculous amount of effort just to fuck trash, so we say fuck it and just try to focus on other things.

MGTOW is about changing your priorities from woman to yourself and your family and friends. Instead of spending your whole life seeking the validation of people who would trade you in for someone better like its nothing, you focus on those who already love you and always will. Its not a easy path, but its obviously the better one.

I don't blame woman, the mating game has just reverted back to its natural state now that we are sexually liberated, but now us beta ales who are left out have to find another way to find fulfillment in life because we can no longer depend on woman to be available and loyal.

>>38437092
I hate bringing this up, but why are you on this board? You sound like either a normie or a larping faggot who talked to a girl for 5 seconds and now pretends he knows everything about women. If I'm wrong please correct me, that's just what it sounds like.

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>>38435526
If you're in MGTOW and you haven't been married/been in a relationship before where the woman buttfucked you financially and/or emotionally, then you have no business in MGTOW and are most likely a delusional incel.

It doesn't make sense being part of a group that has sworn off women, if you've never even been kissed by one.

>>384355268
MGTOW is cope for sub-8 men who can't get laid when they were "opting in" so pretend to "opt out" when they give up and accept their inceldom

>>38437161
society doesn't have any men, only immaturity that mistakes itself for manliness. I don't see men out there I see retards in good clothes that LARP as men.

>>38437245

Women really aren't worth the work though.

I'm not MGTOW, just sayin.

>>38435526
We need more white babies

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>>38437243
What if everyone you know who's been in a relationship had that relationship fuck them over and send them into suicidal depression every time and you've been single for so long with no one telling you to get a gf that you're accustomed to this way of life?

>>38437161
>>38437185

I shit on your society. When you're bald, fat and wrinkled at 50 and paying child support remember the "selfish" guys out there laughing at you.

>>38437237
>MGTOW is about changing your priorities from woman to yourself and your family and friends
That's basically what normal men already do.
MGTOW is the reaction of numales to the reality of the world.
MGTOW is for broken people who just want to point fingers and nothing else.
Your entire movement is a waste of time, and only serves to make you weaker, the longer you belong to it.

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>>38435526
Don't disrespect adam22 he's holding it down for the culture he just interview cam'ron ffs

>>38437185
>You don't change society by running away from it.

Actually, that can often be a very effective means of changing society.

The bottom line is that the excesses of feminism in the US are kept afloat by massive wealth transfer, at the point of a gun, from men to women.

By minimizing your risk profile you make that harder to do, at least a tiny little bit. If large numbers of people mimic your action, the superstructure itself comes under threat.

It's a lot more likely to succeed than making having marches or "being strong".

>>38436952
>>38437092

Wow, not only are you wrong, but you're pretty mad as well.

>instead of embracing manhood, which is what women desire

So a beta spends his whole life putting women on pedestals, trying to please women and act in a way that (he thinks) women desire. And your advice is for him to change his behaviour to match what women *actually* desire. You're still molding yourself to womens' desires with your vague definition of "manhood"; how is that not beta?

>They're angry that life isn't the way their liberal parents and teachers taught them it is.

Actually in my experience it's the conservacuck families that raise their little boys to pedestalise women.
"Be a nice little gentleman and open doors for the princesses and pay for their meals tell them how pretty they are, and I'm sure all the girls will want to marry you. Because you're such a polite, traditional gentleman!" - this is traditionalism, not liberalism, and about as far away from "numale' mentality as you can get.

>They were just typical liberal numales who eventually figured out the truth

Again, numales actually mingle with women. MGTOW don't, so I don't see the connection.

>We'll fix the problems in society while you cry into your pillows.

Oh wow the messiah complex in this post.

>Women need strength and security

No, women need your resources, your attention, and your sperm.

>All you weaklings do is talk about how awful women are and how unfair everything is.

You haven't watched any good mgtow channels.

>You're so hurt about their repeated rejection

Well, no, it's more about female entitlement, the tribulations of actually being in a relationship with a woman, and the manipulation, and the mind games, and the risks of marriage and the skewed legal system, etc. Rejections are really a very secondary issue.

>>38437161
>You abandoning your role, only hurts the countless boys out there that you claim to care about.

When did I say I cared about them? They sure as hell don't care about me.

>>38437185
You'd need such drastic change to make anything worthwhile out of this shit hole that it's akin to a revolution. And why would I want to put in effort to change anything for the better, for whom? So that the scum that I hate with every fibre of my body can live in a better world? I fucking hate society and I want to see it burn.

>>38437249
Spoken like a fucking beta.
That's why you'll never be a man.
Your idea of it is not based in reality.
You faggots took one look at the brutality of reality, and what is required of men to maintain society, and you buckled and reacted like a child.
Instead of saying 'fuck this sucks, let's work hard and change it'
You just went and ran away.
You reacted like no amount of work you put in could change things, even though if you look around at society, you can see groups changing things all the time.
The difference between you and them though, is they have a drive to change things, while you're all just weak cowards who are afraid of manhood.

>>38437370
>Fine, if you don't want me, then I don't want you
Exactly. MGTOW is a delusional reaction to rejection.
You care.
You care a lot.
Your statement says it all.

>>38437297
>That's basically what normal men already do.

lol please. Most guys have to do so much chasing and compromising when it comes to getting girls, I know because I have normie friends.

>>38437289
>MGTOW's always acting like they're constantly on the beach, living it up, instead of where they really are; in their one bedroom basement apartments, angrily ranting about women because no woman wants their fat, smelly, beta asses

>>38437161

>don't breed goy
"Everything I don't agree with is the joos"

>only put effort into things that are selfish
"Sacrifice your personal happiness for women, and pretend to be happy. I'm sure that will be a great example to follow for your kiddies and your deep-seated dissatisfaction with life won't seep into their psyche through osmosis".

>if women don't just fall all over your acne-ridden beta ass right away

Again, it's not about the problem of women not desiring you. It's about the problems that arise once you are already with a woman.

>You abandoning your role,
"I have a role for you: you must play your role, if you don't play your assigned role and make yourself desirable to women, that's bad" <-- t. cuck.

> only hurts the countless boys out there that you claim to care about.

So your way of caring for little boys is to show them how to make themselves perfect disposable workhorses for women.. genius.

> you copped out like a weakling

Shaming language does not constitute an argument. You're starting to sound a lot like a woman.

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>Incels cry about how they cant get pussy

>make loads of money and get tons of pussy among spoiled rich girls, and travel worldwide and fuck beautiful hookers

>live comfy while retarded meatheads scream about how they can fuck 5/10 girls with extreme daddy issues

>>38437433
That reply wasn't talking about women. The poster I was replying to wanted to know why I wasn't stepping up to "fight" for other men.

Why on Earth would I want to do that?

If I stood up tomorrow to become an MRA, you know what would happen? Vast numbers of men would give me shit, try to doxx me, call me an incel loser, call me a fascist, etc.

Fuck it, you fuckers are on your own, until phony Beatlemania bites the fucking dust.

Threads like this are why I still come to this board. This is just entertaining at this point.

>>38437440
>beta male thinks broad statements about groups should apply to literally every individual in a group
Maybe I made a mistake and you boys don't care about the plight of young males.
I could be forgiven for being mistaken about that, seeing as how so many MGTOW's go on and on about the suffering of young males in their videos.

>>38437504
Maybe find a woman that makes you happy, idiot.
Then it doesn't feel like work.
Is it that you faggots just want a robot with a cunt?
Listen man-child, society doesn't re-embrace traditionalism by the males running away.
It's as simple as that.
The stronger your gay little reactionary movement becomes, the weaker males as a whole become.
I wouldn't want my son to be anything like you weaklings.
Your parents all failed you, and you should be angry at them for it.
That's the reason you're a MGTOW.
You weren't prepared for life, and the reality of it broke you.
Also, shaming is very important.
If you don't shame people into behaving in a productive way, then the weakling betas like you will eventually collapse society.

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>>38437500
>Planning your life

This triggers the goyim cattle

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>>38437684
>Maybe find a woman that makes you happy, idiot.

ha I'll just go win the lotto too while I'm at it

>>38437398
>pretty much every philosopher in the history on mankind had the same dismissive attitude towards what called itself "society" in their respective time.
>Mountains of books written because of the simple fact that ignorance, stupidity and violence, animalistic behaviour and death squads raping their neighbours in men pays and the Weltschmerz accompanying that realisation.
>ur beta mate!
"Being a man" is not a badge of honor in an uncivilised, animalistic society.
I've taken a look at those "groups changing something" and none of them look promising.
Just let us reject society, maybe you fit in among those animals, or see something worth saving, but don't expect everybody to feel the same as you. We are just too disgusted by what surrounds us to still care about it. You are basically talking to Jews about "getting Germany back on track, you goddamn low test bums!".

>>38437731
Or maybe you could stop looking for your potential mate among liberal moral relativist whores.
Maybe try a higher caliber of female for a change.

>>38435526
Holy shit is that the guy from No Jumper??
What a boss

>>38437782
>I'm better than the plebs because I don't engage and I run away
Good shit man.
Stay on it.
I'm sure it will pan out well for you.
After all, you seem so happy and together right now kek.
Definitely no boiling rage about women rejecting you right under the surface, nope.

>>38437839
man those Jews should have just stayed happy instead of succumbing to their circumstances like the beta bitch boys they were

>>38437805

My problem isn't with woman as much as it with our government and its policies and deception. There's corruption at every level and we are selling out our own people. Why would I want to start a family in such a place? You can't expect people to sacrifice themselves for a government that can't even be trusted.

>>38437202
Notice how nobody replied to me on this observation, that says a lot.

>>38437238
I genuinely care about these broken betas, because I was one.
I wouldn't be so passionate in my responses, and hard on them, if I didn't care.

>>38437906
A better and more productive and positive mindset among the Jews would definitely have resulted in considerably fewer loxists today.

>>38435526

>stop working
>stop going to school
>stop paying taxes

already done my fellow NEET.

i hope this roastie chad society burns to the ground

>>38437956
But instead of doing the hard thing, by actually working to change society to better benefit you, like literally all the other groups do, you run the fuck away.
How is cowering a productive solution?
How is the problem not going to get worse because of it?
Also, if you faggots are opting out of society until it collapses, do you honestly think you'll be the ones to rebuild it?
You don't even have the strength to face problems that are much easier to deal with.
You MGTOW brag about how much money you have because you don't have to spend it on women and children, yet you do nothing with it except selfish shit.
Any other group would have worked together to insinuate themselves into positions of power where they could make their desired changes.
But again, you faggots just ran away and spent your money on video games and other petty shit.
YOU could be solving the problems in society that you hate, but you're too selfish.
And you weaklings think you'll remake society if it collapses.
Gimme a break.

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>This thread

Can we start blackpilling these normalfags?

>>38437839
>>38437805
>say they are successful
>browses 4chan and arguing with people on the fucking internet hoping to change their opinion by insulting them
Very """""""""interesting"'''''''''''''''' and ''''''''''''''''helpful''''''''''''' opinions

>>38438336
>no one successful is aware of 4chan
>no one with money ever comes here
do you really think that's true?
even the CIA comes here on a regular basis.
don't kid yourself anon

>>38438319
Keep trying anon they wont understand

>>38438114
>I wouldn't be so passionate in my responses, and hard on them, if I didn't care.

>being this oblivious to how cliche and lame you sound

>>38437703
Keanu's wife died, fuck off.

>>38438376
They come for shit and giggles not for relieving their anger issues m8.

>>38437684
There is a point where "the reality of life" goes against your values so much that you can't adapt without throwing everything you call yourself over board and becoming an animal. We as a society have reached that point where you can only survive as an animal and we choose instead to remain human. Even if it means to drop out of society for it.

There was a story about a boy in Mexico that got caught by two gang members from his way home to school. They placed him before the decision to either kill somebody else of be killed himself. He chose to die.

Maybe you understand our position a little better now. Stop trying to shame us, you are making a fool out of yourself. You can't shame people into "being amoral savages again". The very fact that you still haven't dropped out of society and speak so highly as to consider it shameful to completely reject it, shows you either haven't seen enough shit from people or have no moral compass to begin with.

>>38437211
>now we have to take the square root of that
Pareto principle is 80/20 rule, it's nothing to do with square roots. 15 million men are having 80% of the sex, not 9000 having half of it.

>>38438429
Do you seriously think he would consider this argument?He will call you a beta loser instead without replying intelligently jut like an animal

You're misunderstanding the Pareto Principle

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>>38438423
when will you guys realize that it's only low level loserish normies that come in here and try to "talk sense" to you guys.

>>38438407
>being concerned with sounding cliche and lame
you still got that high school mentality going on I see.
I'll bet you're frequently an apathetic sack of shit.
I can see it already, and it's precisely why you're a loser.
Grow up.
Expressing interest in a subject and genuinely caring is not a bad thing.
Perhaps you should focus less on how you appear to others.
Might make you a happier person.

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>>38438496
>you have to hold our hands and be totally nice otherwise we fall apart and can't hear anything you have to say
wow, you MGTOW are so strong.

>>38438511
Well we can only go against them to make them angry.Again just for shit and giggles

>>38438543
Its called bbbbbbbbbeeeeeeiiiiiiiing urselsf annon.Best advice given

>>38438524
lmfao try harder to seem well adjusted.

it's not about being concerned with sounding cliche and lame

it's about phrasing your statements in a way that will appeal to the most people, and not have people shrug what you say off.

why do you think that very popular people tend to be very original?

>>38435526
>mfw a generation of retards stops competing and ultimately commits suicide because people from LA/Hollywood make silly videos.

>>38438643
What?Elaborate with video

>>38438543
civil discussions /arguments! = holding hands/being "totally" nice

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>>38438550

kek

>"you aren't bowing to me because i am clearly a well adjusted normie unlike you? FUCKING BETA LOSER!!!!"

>>38436952
>They're angry that life isn't the way their liberal parents and teachers taught them it is.

Is it unreasonable to be upset that every adult in your life intentionally lied to you for your first eighteen years?

>>38436631
>Literally will never go away

It literally does, it's called jerking off.

>>38438797
Well what I speak is the truth that He the real god of myself has spoken

>>38436952
T b h, I'm beyond omega, but when a group of 5 guys in their late teens tried to steal my parents' car by pushing it down the street before starting the engine, I charged out of the house yelling at them and chased them for a few hundred yards telling them to come back and fight.

Weird thing is, if you ask me to go up to some kids playing loud music and tell them to lower it down, this makes me so anxious I bunker up instead.

Social courage and fight-or-flight reactions are different things. Some robots are alienated because society is so artificial and full of arbitrary rules. A situation where physical violence is expected becomes freeing in comparison. There's you and there's whoever not you, and you don't need to be a chad to hit someone with a bat.

Bottom line is, noone would be able to survive without society. However, the same betacucks who embraced atheism now whine why women became primates again. We had religion for a fucking reason, so we could SHAME IMMORAL BEHAVIOR, at least until everyone stopped reading history and started reading autistic wheelchair rambles.

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>>38437330im split on adam22. He does do great shit for the culture but he also seems fake as hell at times.

>>38439288

>We had religion for a fucking reason, so we could SHAME IMMORAL BEHAVIOR,

Unless you became a priest or some high-ranking cleric within that religion, in which case you could manipulate people and commit whatever immoralities you wanted without any recourse.
Yeah, that was a great system, everyone was obviously so happy with it that it has remained solid and unchanged since its conception.

>at least until everyone stopped reading history

yeah, everyone in the world was reading history all the time in the middle ages. Even the peasants used to come back from an exhausting day's work in the fields and read historical manuscripts.
Factory workers in 19th century England just adored reading Mommsen and educating themselves about history after coming back from Sunday service.

>autistic wheelchair ramblings

that would be you

>>38439288

>However, the same betacucks who embraced atheism now whine why women became primates again

Nigger, religious fetishism was a function of Homo brains since the fucking Neanderthals.

Religious belief comes from animism and fetishism, which has been around since we were literally "primates" as you describe it.

Women's nature has never been changed by religion, neither before nor after.

>Hurr ur not a real man
>hurr your sour grapes
>hurr the game is rigged for "everybody" just suck it up
>Hurr ur a beta

Wow great arguments normies. Got anything else? Keep defending the status quo and making it harder for those below you.

My friend let her boyfriend have sex with me once too.

It was sweet of her, I was a virgin and he was a mega Chad so it was a great experience losing it.

Nice to have a less awkward and actually very pleasurable first time memory.

>>38437342
this

/thread


i hate how me agreeing with someone thats right makes me unoriginal

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I wish I was him to be honest

>>38435526
If this is truly the endgame of mgtow, I am shocked that the (((establishment))) hasn't assassinated it's leaders. Aren't japanese mgtow literally the most dangerous existential threat to the nation, according to it's own government?

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>>38440493


sweet mother of THICCCCCC

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>>38440612
Got a few more if you want

>>38440493
It was going so well until she started twerking like a fucking retard. Muh dick status: retracted.

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>>38440525
>I am shocked that the (((establishment))) hasn't assassinated it's leaders

it's all according to plan anon. They want it to collapse and watch the world burn and cause Armageddon.

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>>38440753
What about this one?

comment

>>38440525
Why would they? It's a good way to get rid of the useless plebs and replace them with machines.

>>38440525
It is essentially disorganized resistance. There are no leaders as far as I know since people will act on their individuality but still have the mindset.

>>38440805
She doesn't seem very clever. Why didn't she just make an actual video instead of fiddling about with 5 second clips?
She's got the thicc but I dunno, anon. I just don't know.

>>38435526

Am I crazy or has this sharing partners thing become incredibly widespread lately? Fucking disgusts me

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Last one of this skank

>>38440961

how are women so appealing and so repulsive at the same time?

>>38436631
>female companionship and affection quite literally will never go away. You either kill yourself or play a rigged game, like everybody else

Nah schizoid mustard race. Gonna die alone and happy.

I thought I was going to die an MGTOW a year ago.

But last November I met the most amazing girl, and we lost our virginities to each other a month ago. We agree to love each other forever.

She's out there bros.

>>38436952
>Women need strength and security, and you are the antithesis of it.
They need extermination along with you into the gas chamber

>>38441081
Enjoy your break-up few years later

>>38438870
Your parent surrounded themselves with people they had similiar mindsets to. They also live in a different time than you. You should have caught on to that in your teens.

>>38441269
Enjoy dying alone while we love each other.

>>38441377
Screencap it if you dare.

>>38441377
You seriously think that your first relationship is going to be your last?

>>38441415
Yes.

What's the point of a relationship if you plan on dumping them in the future?

>>38441467
You should ask your g*rl that same question. Enjoy the tears, anon.

>>38441562
Trust me, I've expressed that insecurity to her and she said I will never have to worry about it because she loves me forever.

>>38441603
Kek, fucking beta-male you'rr going for a ride

>>38441625
Nah bruh she'll never leave him! He is the lucky one! He actually thinks he knows better.

Something I find kind of odd about MGTOW people is how they make a big deal about not getting into relationships and being by yourself, but the thing is that I've always been like this. I'm very reclusive, autistic, lazy, and just spend most of my time on my computer, so to me, not even trying to get a girlfriend is the "natural" state of things.

>>38436950
That's a strange way to say 'I'm gay'

>>38441625
Nah dude, I'm pretty redpilled. Most women are indeed whores who would drop their man the second they felt like it.

But she's different, trust me.

>>38435526
this isn't the reality of the whole world but keep living on the most controversial, degenerate parts of the internet and pretending it's the truth.

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>>38436156
>>most boys do
>implying

>>38441744
you pathetic little shill.

>>38441744
Newsflash to anon: The world itself is degenerate and you're pretending that w*men aren't' the garbage we recognize. But keep on being a positive reddior "w*men are just great xDDDDDDDDD"

>>38441825
He's legit, there's a lot of these p*ople on here just to bring us down, then they have the audacity to call us "losers" when they could be living their "lives", lol, fucking idiots.

>>38441845
is that what i said? no. nice reach though
must be nice being that delusional

>>38435963

adam22 is sort of famous

>>38435526


REEEEEEEEEEEE

I WANT TO HAVE SEX

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>38436631
Josef Fritzel and is basement waifu knew how to win at the game

>>38435545
From a biological standpoint sex is literally the only thing that matters. Without access to it you start to feel like a complete failure.

>>38441915
You're the one implying we're edgy because according to you we're " lving on the most controversial, degenerate parts of the internet and pretending it's the truth." which begs the question the fuck are YOU doing here to begin with, I think I already know. Just based on your intial post I can tell you disagree with the basic MGTOW premise and that we're just losers believing in some fantasy that w*men are garbage. Whatever, believe what you want to believe about them but you took your own sweet precious time you've could've spent on a female to try to bring us down,.

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>>38441603
>she won't love you forever
>b-b-but she says she will!

>>38436631
>literally will never go away
Millions of religious men throughout history would like a word

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>>38436952
>typical liberal numales
virginity.txt

>>38442050
The eunuchs?

>>38440914
It comes naturally to women and the culture that used to prevent it is on the decline, so

>>38442028
Every time some person says "sex isn't the only important thing in life xDDDDDDDD" I just want to hit them. Also ever virgin never says this, you hear this kind of disciple make- believe shit from people who have regular sex, it's kind of hilarious and sad at the same time

>>38435526
I'd like to see you prove this mathematically. This 80-20 whiny beta shit is horseshit unless you put numbers on it.

>>38438256
>Implying I give two fucks about society
Society can fucking burn for all I care, and I'll laugh as it does. Society has done nothing for me, I don't owe it shit

>>38440914

the deconstruction of monogamy has been going on for more than 50 years

>>38442037
>I'm an unlovable piece of shit so everyone else is too

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In this day and age it's really non-MGTOW who need to justify themselves, not the other way around. No rational man would look at the world and women as they are today and consider monogamy a reasonable investment.
>But without stable families it'll just keep getting worse!
Feminism and the sexual revolution have ingrained themselves in the family structure to the extent that women can have their cake (children and a family) and eat it too (ability to leave it all behind whenever she wants with no repercussions)
Modern society is essentially women enjoying themselves at the expense of everyone else. It's a female solipsism-fueled pleasure cruise. If most women only really care about themselves, men should do the same. Turnabout is fair play.
The basis of society is a pact between men and women: men will provide for the family if women remain loyal. Western women broke that pact like 50 years ago, but anti-MGTOW act like nothing has changed

>>38437092
You can't just give men a shit deal and say "hurr durr that's life faggot"
Some men are going to walk away because it's in their best interest, why does that trigger you so much?

>>38442355
>but anti-MGTOW act like nothing has changed

BRUH

U JUST NEED TO GET LAID LOL

STOP BEING A BITTER VIRGIN LOSER xDDDDDDDD

UR JUST IN DENIAL

FUCK MGTOW, FUCKING LOSERS LOL

That's all they say.

>>38442355
only if you live in california or new york.

by the way if your world is controlled by women, i have news for you, beta cuck.

>>38442476
>only if you live in california or new york
I've lived all around the map, women are essentially the same everywhere. Females all take advantage of modern liberalization
>if your world is controlled by women
It's not, not really sure what you're even driving at

>>38442476
Case in point, right on time too.

>>38442543
>modern society is essentially women enjoying themselves at the expense of everyone else
>the basis of society....women broke that pact

i understand the scapegoat for people who got left out, rejected etc. but women changed nothing and will never be taken seriously. feminism was a political move primarily by men. casual sex and relevant social activities are initiated and organized by men. if you are part of that lifestyle, cool. if you aren't, cool. if you don't fit anywhere in life, it's absurd to claim "everyone else" needs to justify themselves. what is wrong with you? you're the type of person who watches a fake prank video and thinks that all men are clinically retarded assholes.

>>38442437
>past men had to deal with 80 hour work weeks in dangerous conditions, going to war and seeing people die all the time
>modern men get upset and give up if they don't get the match they want on tinder

i'm not the triggered fuccboi you replied to but i'm not sure you know what you're talking about. misogyny comes out of boredom, not "a shit deal." the best argument MGTOW has is that divorced dudes often get screwed over. but it exaggerates the divorce myth and if you hate all women because of shitty divorce laws then you wouldn't like men either, there are guys who get away with all kinds of shit too. but they don't seem to whine all day about men being fundamentally cruel, and they certainly don't go their "own" way in this hivemind cult.

>>38442765
>all women
When dealing with generalizations this is what always happens. When the rates of divorce get better, give us a call.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm

>>38442028
It's understandable why you might feel this way but trust me if you get laid it won't change anything. Virgins don't realise that not having sex is usually just a symptom of bigger problems with their personality.

>>38443007

Your personality doesn't matter when no one gives you a chance because you're ugly.

>>38435545
IMO what happens is that their ambition collapses backwards:
>if I can't/don't want to get a wife and have kids, why do I need a big house?
>if I don't need a big house, why do I need a high paying job?
>if I don't need a high paying job, why do I need to go to school?

It doesn't surprise me many men don't strongly feel a sense of civic duty either. The media continually dumps on them, telling them they are violent, lazy and stupid. And if a man isn't working then he is told he is worthless and a loser, making it clear that he is seen only as a source of labour, not a valued member of a community. It makes sense to me that if society views its relationship with a man in purely transactional terms that the man would do the same, and upon deciding he is not getting a good deal, offer up the bare minimum in exchange.

>>38441720
I see MGTOW as a boycott movement. They make a fuss and keep talking about women because they want women to change. They don't "really" want to give up on women altogether, because if they did, they would quickly move on to something else and stop talking about them.

>>38436952
>never placed women on pedestal
>always treat them like my equals like I'm talking to any other person
>call them out on their shit when I feel it's right
>have had sex with a couple of different girls
>always try to make it clear we're monogamous
>always date them for a year or a couple of months until it doesn't work out
>every girl in my area is just not what I'm looking for I know most of them
>MGTOW while I figure out things for myself and focus on hobbies I really like
It's not bad at all sometimes a break from dumb girls is what you need

>>38437703
Keanu probably would of had kids had his wife not died honestly.

>>38443628
Here's the thing. We aren't hardwired to be little, anonymous cogs in a gigantic machine, doing menial tasks in the service industry which require no real knowledge and could be done by a robot or Indian better for people who don't really know or care about us.

If a guy with a very high IQ from the stone age would be teleported here and could perfectly learn our language and customs in 1 year, he would probably kill himself. Not because he is too stupid for our society, but because it doesn't give him a spiritual fulfillment.

That guy grew up in a tribe with 40-50 people. All these tribesmen were loyal to each other and would die for each other. He saw some of his friends and family members die. He almost died himself a few times. He saw babies being born. His tribe almost starved to death at one point. He saw some serious shit and suffering. BUT he is still very valued. His hunting skills are on par with nobody. He knows the value of life. He believes in his ancestors. He believes in magic and ghosts. His life despite being much harder than ours is infinitely more fulfilling and exciting. Today only rich people can go hunting and climbing, eat unprocessed food and live healthy. He can do it for fucking free. And he has 3 wives. If this dude were forced to wear a fucking uniform and go to work like a trained dog after being told that magic and ghosts aren't real and that divorce exists and he has to compete with billions of men because of the Internet would fucking kill himself.

>>38436631
>You either kill yourself or play a rigged game, like everybody else

ill have a hooker and surrogacy.
keep cucking on anon

>>38436952
nah. it was actually our parents that taught us how to treat woman. we were molded by these boomer fuckers that got laid because WW2 eliminated half of the men

>>38443733
mgtow can talk about woman all they want you cuck. they can do whatever the fuck they want.

without mgtow men would get cucked by millenial woman

>>38435526
Thats not what the 80/20 rule says

80/20 means 80% of women DESIRE the 20% of top men

Doesnt mean they only fuck them or only get fucked by them.

>>38435526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ScrVfx1Nc
watch this senpai

it doesn't matter. marriage rates are plummeting.

you can only keep a lie going for so long

>>38435526
>I think i've seen one of this girls in a national geographic documentary. They attached ropes to her legs and pulled her through the ocean. With this technique they catch up to 50 tons of tuna everyday inside her cunt.

This one got me tho

>>38435526
You're absolutely right. What keeps me alive is the thought of the sperg woman who will get me. There's a reason why sites like omegle are filled with cock and not vag's. Because women have power through their genitals. One of their most basic needs are automaticically filled, and this gives them the advantage.

>>38444069
wants me* same poster edit

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Men go their own way should be renamed to Men SENT their own way.

Lmao don't pretend that going your own way was your first choice, we all know that you guys were SENT your own way.

MSTOW is a much better title for you guys

>eceleb shit
saged

>>38444069
wants me* same poster edit

Oregano specialo mucho

>38444089
Guaranteed (you)s. So stale doe.

>>38443925
Implying it's difficult to get in the top 20% of men.
>Don't be a fatass
>Don't be overweight, aka bmi>25
>Have at least some muscle, don't be a noodle man
>Have an ok face, 6/10
>Have an ok haircut, a proper one not done by your mom
>Be at least somewhat independent at a certain age
>Have an education that you can talk about
This is pretty much all it takes.

>>38444136
We all know it's true, though. It doesn't matter how many incels get triggered. They all know they were SENT their own way.

>>38444069
Ughh just made the same little edit twice.

>38444159
Congrats on stating the obvious? Let them live their life. If it doesn't personally affect you, it honestly shouldn't bother you.

>>38444153
Why aren't women obliged to date within their attractiveness range?

>>38444159
mgtow was founded by married and divorced people

the original premise of mgtow was "don't get married, you will get fucked" but it started having al kinds of theories

>>38444153

That will put you in the top 40% maybe, not 20%. You need genetics to be in the top 20%. I don't know about you but my competition are all ralph lauren model tier looking chads and they're all well over 6 foot.

>>38444202
You sound a little upset, anon?

But you're right. There's no point in me stating the obvious. Have fun.

>>38440805
>>38440961
this whore's ass is definitely fake, but I'll still follow her.

What's her SC?

>>38438460
That's not what Jordan Peterson says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEWRykSgwE

>>38444214
Because people have a free choice and it's a free society. You are not obliged either, it takes two people to agree that they find eachother mutually attractive.
>>38444220
You're just thinking that, they're not model tier looking. You are talking about maybe the top 5-1% of men. Top 20% isn't difficult to get in trust me.

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>38444230
You guess incorrectly but try armchairing better next time.

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>>38444291
Lol Whatever helps you sleep, anon.

>38444329
Yeah lol u2.

kek nigga trying to hide the fact that he seething

>stop working
>stop going to school
>stop paying taxes

This is exactly what I did the moment I fully accepted reality. I wasted years of my life trying to build a 'career' in a world dominated by boomers, chad, and stacey. I falsely assumed back in school that "women are equal, but we give them an advantage anyway" wouldn't apply to the adult world - I was wrong. I had to watch as literally any single girl that I could have liked got all sorts of privileges and advancements over me, while she'd objectify men and sleep with whoever the fuck she wanted.

So now I'm fully NEET and finding various ways to get money from roasties. Do NOT support this system if you care about your soul.

A recent example comes to mind. Yesterday watched this "documentary" - "Addicted to Porn: Chasing the Cardboard Butterfly", the whole thing was a hatchet job, but most interestingly the longest section of the documentary focuses on some aggrieved single mother roastie complaining about how the Chad "knight in shining armour" who married her and took on board parenting HER son (yeah this is technically beta and not a Chad move, but his looks were Chad-tier) had become addicted to porn and didn't want to touch her roast curtains. When she's asked why she fell in love with him, she lists nothing but his PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES at first, and then things like "he had a good job", basically reducing him to his looks and ability to provide and protect for her. Then moments later int he docu she's complaining that he only cares about LOOKS because he faps to hot pornstars rather than her single mother whiney ass.

>>38437684
>If you don't shame people into behaving in a productive way, then the weakling betas like you will eventually collapse society.

Good luck with that whole shaming thing. No one else is ashamed, so I certainly am not going to be.

Here's the thing: I actually did really well in school, and am one of those people who has a knack for standardized tests. I went to a top 25 college and could probably make a contribution to society if I wanted to do so. But at this point I'm pretty bound and determined to not produce any surplus.

You know why? Because along the way I noticed that in every social group I've ever been part of, I was regarded as being in the bottom 10 - 20%. I look at elementary and middle school class pictures, my high school yearbook, all the college pictures on my phone - and it's incredibly consistent. I was the guy people tolerated when he did all the work on group projects but patronized and considered beneath them in every other context.

Naturally, this was particularly true with women. It honestly makes me laugh when I read articles claiming that young women suffer from "low self esteem" and need to be "empowered"; literally every young woman I ever met, across all classes, colors, creeds, and sizes, had one thing in common - they knew damn well they were better than me, and the other guys in the bottom 10 - 20%.

If I'm going to live my life in the bottom 20% socially, then this society is going to get from me an equivalent effort. Since I'm in the lowest quintile, my contribution to society will also be in the lowest quintile. And in the US in 2017, the lowest quintile contributes zero.

Save society on your own, pal. I don't really see that you have grounds to complain - I'm just giving society a fair exchange. How can that be wrong?

>>38444287
Exactly. As I pointed out earlier, the ''free market'' of sexual encounters has made it, so that women can date outside their sexual attractiveness level. I'm not saying that women are to blame for this. I think it's a natural occurence that comes with women suddenly having choices in modern society, which creates an inequality. Women should absolutely have the choice, but the imbalance is there nonetheless.

>>38444444
CHEQUED

ORORORORIGINAL

>>38444444
Those digits though. Nice fucking job.

>dude is ugly as fuck, covered in trash tats and says nothing even remotely indicative of higher thought

>girls are still giggling and want to fuck him

I don't fucking get it. I really don't.

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>>38444444
But there isn't anything wrong with people choosing who they want to be with when the attraction is mutual. There are PLENTY of woman who by the age of 20 have never had a boyfriend or have had only one or only had sex once or twice in their lifetime. There will always be an inequality, who is to say what is fair and what is equal?

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>>38444444
These can't go unchecked.

>>38444474

>higher thought

jesus christ dude

>>38444438

>Naturally, this was particularly true with women. It honestly makes me laugh when I read articles claiming that young women suffer from "low self esteem" and need to be "empowered"; literally every young woman I ever met, across all classes, colors, creeds, and sizes, had one thing in common - they knew damn well they were better than me, and the other guys in the bottom 10 - 20%.

I've thought about this a lot, myself. It seems like logically, the LAST thing the average woman needs is more self-esteem. Even the genuinely low-self esteem women have vastly more reason to feel good than the average male.

I think this "self esteem building" for women is actually just a way for women to bully young boys. Just like "white ribbon" programs in schools here in Australia where they go in and get football stars (Chad) to go in and tell 11 year old boys not to be violent to women - it makes no logical sense at first, it's so insane... but if you see it as female social aggression against males it makes more sense.

Like the "campus rape" hysteria - it's not about a genuine perceived threat. It's about making universities more hostile towards males so women don't have to work as much to compete with males. it's bullying.

>>38444089
this has already been said multiple times you unoriginal schmuck

>>38444530
I know, I stole it from some anon who said it before me. The exact same thing too, with the "sent your own way" and whatnot.

doesn't make it any less true, though.

The real redpill is that MGTOW is pushed by the "20%" of males. This video is made for this express purpose. It keeps the betas out of the game and more pussy for them.

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>>3844447
>says nothing even remotely indicative of higher thought

are you serious?

>>38444513
What? What's wrong with that wording?

>>38444089

MGTOW would generally acknowledge that it's women's behaviour which rejected men collectively, first.

The thing to note is that women have a sense of entitlement, as the OP pointed out - women expect men to continue to serve them as eunuch workers. MGTOW also has to be understood in contrast to MRA's - MRA's are basically males going "Ok women, you rejected us, you've never cared about us, you bully us... but please give us some rights!", and MRA's very much focus on appealing to women and women's interests. The term 'MGTOW' came about with regard to MRA's - MGTOW remain red-pilled and will even focus lots of consciousness on learning about women, women's behaviour, feminism, etc - but MGTOW don't want to become objectified "debuggers" in a system that serves women. They're men who, having been rejected in some sense, are gaining power by building their own lives outside value-systems that serve women.

Case in point - My female relatives who are all roasties and all have free white-collar jobs at the expense of males like me FULLY expect me to visit them in old age and attend their funerals, etc. They can't understand why they're being ghosted now and they'll never get an explanation.

MGTOW's embrace the reality of male disposability and sexual valuelessness... but they're building value systems and lives of their own.

>>38444638
Then it honestly doesn't make sense. Why not have the most popular channels on YouTube be MGTOW related? I mean in the millions? Why aren't they accepted? Plenty of puh for everyone else if your hypothesis is to be believed. The men would also have no fear of being doxxed but you know what happens when you hurt the wynmns precious fee fees.

>>38444504
If women only date within the 20% ''best'' range of men, and men don't, there's obvious inequality, but this inequality could only be changed by impairing the choices of the free human mind. I don't want that, but it still shows the inequality of reality. How can you deny that? I don't want to vilify you, I just want an answer, and as of now such an answer exists within the realm of justice.

>>38444523
>It seems like logically, the LAST thing the average woman needs is more self-esteem.

I can understand why feminists would see this as a worthwhile goal. But I can't understand why they would think that I'd want to contribute to that goal.

I'm expected to pay taxes to fund female self-esteem studies, and I'm expected to change my public conduct so that women will "feel welcome", and I'm expected to ritualistically declare that fat women are beautiful...to raise the self-esteem of people who already think they're better than me.

Why would I want to do any of that? So that women can feel even-more-betterer than me? Can't they see how crazy they are when they ask me to "be concerned", or help in any way?

>>38444279

I trust his explanation of the Pareto principle, but his understanding of Soviet history is laughably stupid.

>>38444737
doesn't exist within the realm* sorry for the mistake

>>38435526
just so you're aware, I jerked off to the video so take that faggot

>>38444693
not sure if bait, but bro, when you say shit like that, like the way you did, you're pretty much admitting to be a bonafide neck beard.

>>38444836
So that specific phrasing is somehow socially unacceptable? Would "he sounds like a fucking dumbass" work better?

I don't get socializing, it's full of so many arbitrary rules you are somehow supposed to know intuitively.

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>>38435526
all this clout but no one to share it with

>>38442080
>"sex isn't the only important thing in life xDDDDDDDD" I just want to hit them.

I'd fucking kill you in a fist fight, faggot.

>>38442080
If you think sex is the only thing in life you are fucking pathetic. Even 40 IQ retards can have sex. Like shitting in pissing it is a lowly, animal function.

Most geniuses in history were asexual. The more dumb you are, the more sexual you are. The smarter you are the more asexual you are.

>>38445156
Nigga i'd pick happy ignorant normie life over this hell anyday

>>38445177
Being a virgin is really hell for you?

>>38445177
Go Tesla mode and channel your autism into something productive. Maybe it will attract a lady or two.

I don't think being forever alone is health but >>38445156
does have a point. Einstein got married but his wife wrote about him being a bit of a sperg who would reee at her for making him wear socks when he left the house.

>>38445193
Not being a virgin but being depressed/suicidal is

>>38442915
white educated men have a 12% chance of divorce before age 65.

>>38435526
>20% of men have sex with 80% of women.
I can already hear the redditors and roasties screeching.

>>38442064
>t. angry numale

>>38444737
I'm not going to deny there is an inequality in terms of sexual behavior between the two sexes. But that's unavoidable and has always been happening in the history of humans. Not all woman only date within the best 20% of men. It's basic human nature , men have to obtain a woman whereas woman have to choose because they have the ability to choose. You can't change human nature, and I think that's a good thing that we can't.

>>38445301

Not him, but...

Literally 2 out of 30 or so white educated men my age are actually married, anon.

>>38438659
you don't have to respect someone to still make valid points, jackass.
You're just weak and you need people to couch everything in just the right language for your delicate sensibilities.
You MGTOW are such pussies.

>>38445360
How old exactly are you anon?

>>38445360
that's pathetic lmao.

everyone i know is in a committed relationship (5+ years) or married. but i work in biotech.

>>38444438
>the bottom 10 - 20%.
Being generous bud.

>>38436631
>but the 80/20 rule is just a mem-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02-eIBHSLA

>>38445301
You obviously aren't educated. Don't you know how to read a chart?

>>38445345
It's not just, and thus it's not good, but it is reality.

>>38445421
Hey, I said I was *in* the bottom 10 - 20%. I didn't specify where.

The guy who's dead fucking last is *in* the bottom 10%. So maybe I'm dead fucking last.

If I only have to contribute to society as much as the guy who's dead fucking last, then as far as I'm concerned society is way in the hole to me for the lifetime of Medicaid-paid care I haven't consumed the way the guy who's dead fucking last usually would.

>>38436896
>implying

I had the most beautiful women throwing themselves at me and I never gave in because I lose all of my rights the moment I stick my dick on a girl.

>>38445504
>It's not just
>Thus it's not good
That's your personal view on it. Fairness and equality are subjective and no one is to say what is and what isn't fair. Only what seems fair to you.

>>38445345
>Not all woman
The 49%? Tell those hoes to give us a call or shut the fuck up.

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>>38445345
>Not all woman only date within the best 20% of men.
Shut the fuck up roastie. Yes they do. Chad forms harems and women flock to him. This is how it was before civilization and its making a comeback.

>>38445459
do you? even the newest one says 17% by 65.

12% by 60

>>38445531
>Fairness and equality are subjective and no one is to say what is and what isn't fair.

Hey, great. That means that feminists can't say it's not fair if we decide to go all Handmaid's Tale on them.

If there's no such thing as fair, that opens the door for a lot of possibilities, anon.

That is bullshit tho. Also you can befriend us, just reach to some nice Chad, we are nice and we like to help our Bros to get some.

>>38445548
They married in the 70' retard. This study is obviously outdated now.

>>38444444
Good gets? On MY r9k?

>>38445545
>Implying I'm a toastie.
I have a girlfriend yes, some here might consider me Chad but I don't want to bring you down by telling about my sexual history. Woman really don't only date the top 20% of men, that's a myth. I met plenty of woman who only had 1 or 2 sexual partners before or have or had boyfriends who were only a 6/10 at best.
>>38445532
You're a guy, you have to pursue them, not otherwise. That's just how it is and always will be.
>>38445574
Well ofcourse. If you look at history the societies where there was the greatest absolute inequality in terms of either wealth, fame or sexual partners it was in exactly those societies which were based on fairness and equality.

>>38445613
>i'm retarded
people who marry young predominantly stay together.

there is a trend to date/marry/have kids later which might suck, but the divorce myth is almost all about retired old fucks (and celebrities)

>>38437092
you're a fucking moron and you have no idea what mgtow is all about. mgtow is a response to the marriage laws, discriminatory family courts against men, duluth model and false rape accusations that women are doing without any consequences.

It's time to swallow the divorce-rate pill bluepilled faggots :
http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2014/07/13/divorce-statistics/

>>38445692
Sure things. Read this retard.
>>38445698

>>38435526
The more I read here about hypergamous sluts the more I hope Islam will take over the west
The roastie tears will be delicious

>>38445695
mgtow is mostly about losers who failed at relationships looking for other ways to have a fulfilling life, except getting obsessed with "false rape accusations" along the way for some reason.

mgtow are the same types of people who compare everything to hitler. they're braindead, just forget about them.

>>38435526
Wrong

Be as successful as you can and stop worrying about women

>>38445723
>read this blog
>46% of 16 year olds have divorced parents
lol.

white educated men have about a 12-14% chance of divorce by age 60. maybe england has too many blacks.

>>38445687
>only 6/10 at best
>only
>this is considered low for women
what if you aren't a 6/10 then? Suicide I guess

>>38445738
Looooooooooooooool look at this fat virgin dumb retard. Well champ did your balls stayed in your mama's womb? No wonder no woman want a neckbeard like you, lmao to you. You just make me laugh again

>>38445778
Judging by the people ITT, people under 6 should definitely disappear from public spaces, at least.

>>38445772
In your dream retardissimo, why don't you look at the dozen of sources which were provided to you?

>>38445787
>tries to act tough after defending a group of redditors who whine about girls
why do you need to tell me that you're laughing? is that rare in your life?

>>38445792
That is what MGTOW is about minus the delusion as to why we are alone, its the belief that losers like me should give up

>>38445812
>dozens of sources
>wikipedia
https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_15_1YR_S1201&prodType=table

>>38445822
My post was as empty as yours my bitter virgin. Why would I use an argument when you don't give me one? Just sit back when I strawman the shit out of you

wait, you guys are actually jealous cuz this dude got to fuck two fat bitches? haahahaha wow that's fucking sad

>>38445687
>Woman really don't only date the top 20% of men, that's a myth
Why lie to us, or even yourself?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/all-the-single-ladies/308654/?single_page=true
"One of Walsh's pet observations pertains to what she calls the "soft harem," where high-status men (i.e., the football captain) maintain an "official" girlfriend as well as a rotating roster of neo-concubines, who service him in the barroom bathroom or wherever the beer is flowing. "There used to be more assortative mating," she explained, "where a five would date a five. But now every woman who is a six and above wants the hottest guy on campus, and she can have him-for one night.""

>>38445858
give you what? we're talking about a cult of weirdos who got obsessed with childish gender wars. the whole conversation is about talking shit to each other. you can try to call people virgins but i'm p. sure the mgtow's you're white knighting will get offended.

>>38442765
men when to war because they wanted to protect their freedom and their rights so it was worth it. the reason men are walking away from women is because they don't have authority over the marriage or the family. why should I sacrifice myself for women when she can just walk out of the relationship,extort child support and take my children from me? you have be a retarded moron to sacrifice yourself for nothing.

>>38445896
>what are prenups

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>>38435526

>ITT: people who allow themselves to be controlled by their circumstances instead of controlling their circumstances.

Clock's ticking, have fun and things will sort themselves out. Trust me. Women and men were made to be together, realise this, realise that you're no enlightened exception and you'll die bitter and full of regret simply because you couldn't get your ugly, neck-bearded turbo-manlet ass outside and just fucking do anything for the fun, for the fucking joy of it.

You'll keep lying to yourself that vidya and anime is what you find fun and that you're a special little fuck who doesn't do well with people. Then why are you here bitching? Because no man's an island and you want some company but are too inexperienced or too cowardly or both to put yourself out there. No risk no reward.

Used to be a hardline robot, and honestly I hate looking back at the fuck I was then. I'm no Chad or even a normie, but don't care if you think I am by your no doubt spiralling criteria. I'm slowly learning how to be happy by turning up to my own life in the mornings. I lapse frequently to my old ways, but over time the frequency and duration of these lapses decreases.

Life's hard I guess, but regret's even harder. Dismiss me as a normie or some numbskull who doesn't understand your sweet suffering, don't fucking care, you're just words on my screen. You're lying to yourself, and that's the worst thing you can do in life. You can make it. And 'it' isn't your perfect fantasy of how the world should work. "It" is the point you reach where you feel happy. Aim for perfection, you'll fall short, but you'll get to good enough, the point where you're actually happy.

Call me a faggot, I don't give a fuck.

>>38445847
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/marriage-divorce.htm

Sorry to break your fantasies. Watch a Disney if you want a fairytale

>>38445896
>they don't have authority
and they don't have authority because they refuse to grow up. i see more and more dudes just give into everything their bitch says.

>>38445891
>white knighting
>men
ISHYGDDT

>>38445910
>2 numbers is better than 100!
calm down nobody wanted to marry you anyway.

>>38445900
Lol just wait to divorce a woman then see if your little prenup being torn apart like a piece of junk by a judge

>>38445942
>mfw i was part of the spam which started this myth
>mfw 5 years later people are still using the exact same metaphor

>>38445900
good luck with that against a feminist judge in family court. the judge is already working for your wife for free

>>38445914
they don't have authority because women have the right to vote and women don't want to give up their rights they gain at the expense of men. women outlive men and they will always outvote men in reforming the laws.

>>38445906
>You can make it
No I fucking can't. Stop with this feel good bullshit. How are you an expert on everybodys life? How the fuck can you be happy and make it if you're hideous and nobody likes you?
>just go outside bro

>>38445990
>i can't keep my girlfriend/relationship in line because women live longer than men
please never leave your room.

>>38445906
Are you still a virgin
If yes then stop acting condescending

>>38445995
You've never seen a hideous person with a family or friends? It's pretty easy.

>>38445900
Loose pieces of paper thrown out in court all the time. Or a natural disaster when you bring it up to your perfect woman. At best, has marginal uses. Why marry when she is aiming for the divorce? Marriage was never about love in the first place. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/25/before-saying-i-do-more-millennials-say-prenup.html

>>38445933
>Marriage rate: 6.9 per 1,000 total population (49 reporting States and D.C)
3.2 per 1,000 population (45 reporting States and D.C.)

Let's marry when the divorce rate is almost 50% each year of marriage. Let me getting ripped off half of my belongings, let me pay alimony to my wife and child support for 18 years. After all I work for that, my money isn't important amarite?

ROPE GANG

>>38446047
1. do you also fear the sun because so many people get skin cancer?
2. i proved your numbers to be misleading already. divorce rate across state or country means nothing.
3. you have the same mentality as doomsayers, except you still obsess about laws and relationships and 4chan. why? if everything is such shit for you, just go live in the woods.

>>38446018
>I can keep in line a woman in a feminist world when she can claim you raped her at any point of your life then pocket half of your stuff, your childs and a shitload of money every month

>>38446035
>thrown out all the time
just as often as divorce requests are rejected.

>>38446122
>muh rape culture
but you are the feminist, retard.

>>38439181
>Some robots are alienated because society is so artificial and full of arbitrary rules

Sometimes I wonder if us robots are actually the humans, and the normies are just NPC's.

>>38446149
which would make no sense since robots don't do anything interesting and only exist to consume.

>>38446144
>just as often as divorce requests are rejected.
[citation needed]

>>38446170
it's true. divorces are denied all the time. its just a piece of paper.

>>38446032
>You've never seen a hideous person with a family or friends?
I have friends but all the people I know that are on my level of attractiveness and of the same age are single and never had a gf. Have 2 friends who kept trying with girls and they're still lonely losers, so I saved myself the trouble.
>But there are plenty of ugly married guys
And they are either wealthy providers that get 1 handjob on their birthday or married in the 80s or 90s, ugly men of my generation are fucked, look at >>38445792
This is how most people think.

>>38446111
You're retarded if you can see the real divorce rate. I'll be laughing at your future divorce faggot.
You failed to see that marriage is an outdated institution with no advantages for men.

I smell a comeback!

http://www.divorce.usu.edu/files/uploads/lesson3.pdf
>In the United States, researches estimate that 40%-50% of all FIRST MARRIAGES, and 60% of second marriages, will end in divorce.

http://www.marriagefoundation.org.uk/Shared/Uploads/Products/5357_MF%20-%20What%20is%20the%20divorce%20rate%20-%20060213.pdf
>Based on current rates of divorce, 39% of couples marrying today will divorce.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_351693.pdf
>The fall in divorces to 2009 is consistent with a decline in the number of marriages.

https://www.oecd.org/els/family/SF3_1_Marriage_and_divorce_rate_Jan2014.pdf
>During this period, divorce rates increased in most countries. The increase in divorce rates in the United States was very small.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/acs/acs-30.pdf
>Americans have higher marriage rates and marry somewhat earlier. Marital disruption is higher in the United States compared with European nations. We see a pattern of marriage, divorce, and remarriage, or "marriage-go-round."

https://www.relate.org.uk/files/relate/separation-divorce-factsheet-jan2014.pdf
>42% of marriages end in divorce.
>66% of divorces were on petition of the wife.
>Of every divorce in 2011 - it was the first divorce for both partners in 70.1% of cases.
>>>>>>>>70.1%

https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/college-of-arts-and-sciences/NCFMR/documents/FP/FP-14-19-divorce-rate-recession.pdf
>A year-by-year examination reveals the divorce rate was increasing modestly during the years leading up to the Great Recession (2000 - 2008). This trajectory reversed in 2009 when the divorce rate dropped nearly 7% because the cunts needed their husband's money!

>>38446201
I would have better time believing you if had a source for your claim. Are you speaking anecdotally or empirically? Lets make that clear now.

>>38445778
People consider me a 7.5/10 most of the time. Confidence goes a long way.
>>38445870
>American woman
Can't say that American woman Represent all woman. It's definitely different in Europe. I was with an American girl once in Prague when I was there on holiday. God fucking damn are they annoying and stuck up. Attractive yes, but stuck up to the maximum.

>>38435526
I like the part around 9mins where he calls them white girls

America is fucked lmao

>>38435526
What makes Armenian women such thots?

>>38441064
>Nah schizoid mustard race. Gonna die alone and happy.
do you ever feel lonely?

I knew someone who got diagnosed with that, and even though he disliked people and interacting with them. He still wanted a gf. how common is this among schizoids or is he just bullshiting

>>38446315
All people want a GF or partner. He just knows he's gonna die alone, not that he doesn't want one.

>>38446276
>People consider me a 7.5/10 most of the time
Congrats, Chad but that does not answer the question. Confidence won't make you attractive, attractiveness makes you confident.

>>38437243
HOW DARE YOU TRY TO PREVENT CANCER! DON'T LISTEN TO THE ADVICE ON PREVENTING CANCER! YOU NEED TO GET CANCER FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE LIFE CHANGING DECISIONS. jordan peterson pls go.

>>38446213
What do you consider an advantage? Marriage keeps (certain types of) people from impulsively splitting up, especially when the stresses of raising children are involved. I agree that poor people should not get married, and I agree it's not necessary for a happy family, but I haven't found that many people who aren't married after 35 and still maintaining a fulfilling life. Maybe in las vegas? For me, the pattern is that unmarried guys are weird/bitter. It's harder to say anything about married men because there are so many more of them in my experience. Even under 35 most people have long term relationships which are planning on marriage.

Your reductionism can be mirrored onto anybody who is single or who spends time on 4chan or doing anything. What advantage do you have wasting your health here?

Again, the divorce rate doesn't mean shit. You'll get plenty of schadenfreude, but you're not convincing anyone to stay a bachelor like that. I would prefer that you continue trashing peoples chances of success because they are short, poor, unconfident, etc.

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>>38446364
No it's really not that at all. Attractiveness doesn't make you confident, that needs to come from yourself. It's all practice and keeping on trying. Confidence comes from yourself, not from your looks. Your looks are a help, but not the main reason behind it.

>>38446276
>Represent all woman
See that's the thing. All women have the capability to share her sensibility. It is like the white tiger show with Siegfried and Roy. The problem isn't behavior, it's a combination of human nature (specifically hypergamy in women) and gynocentrism (which rewards and encourages women to act on their hypergamy.

Until human nature changes (unlikely) and/or society stops being gynocentric (unlikely), it's simply illogical to trust women
http://nymag.com/betamale/2016/05/women-are-now-cheating-as-much-as-men-but-with-fewer-consequences.html

>>38446374
He's right though. You need experience with cancer to study and prevent it. If you just read about it in a book you are going to be clueless.

>>38446169
>Only exist to consume

So they only exist for their own self interest? Gee that sounds a whole lot like the majority of people that you meet, doesn't it?

>>38446381
Marriage and stable extended families are how people stop being poor anon.

What you are suggesting keeps people poor and keeps them easily controlled and manipulated by more powerful and more organized larger groups.

>>38446424
human nature never changed though. it wouldn't be human nature, by definition.

>>38437703
you need to add leonardo dicaprio he is a mgtow too.

>>38442028
Once you have sex you'll realize that although sex can be awesome, females are a nuisance to deal with.

>>38446424
Being raised differently matters a lot. You can't fucking compare a tiger to a human being, difference in intelligence and size of brain makes them incomparable. You fell for the memes that woman are sluts by nature and sleep around with 10+ guys before they get married. Most of the time this isn't the case whatsoever.

>>38446438
I have a grudge against the poor because i grew up around them and they systematically tried to bring me down.

I don't know about "how people stop being poor" via families, but if they would focus on family instead of drugs/alcohol/television then I would believe it. My comment is after-the-fact. Just like less than 5% of fat people will return to healthy weight, most poor people will fuck up their relationships.

>>38446403
That is besides the main point. The main point is confidence will not make you attractive. And yes confidence does come from looks. Ever seen some 8/10 chad sperg out? There are confident people who are not attractive, which is also my point. But attractive people can't not be confident

>>38444754
That's just it, they DON'T think that you want to contribute to that goal. Why do you think there's so much propaganda that not only humiliates males and their normal behavior, but also pressures you to act like they want you to?

It's all a massive game to them, and society will pay for their wrongdoing.

>>38446493
>>Ever seen some 8/10 Chad sperg out
Yes, plenty of times. It happens to most people in some point in their life.
>>But attractive people cannot be not confident
Wrong
>>Confidence will not make you attractive
It won't fix your exterior no, but it definitely helps to get woman interested in you or attracted to you, female attraction isnt solely based on looks alone.

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>>38435526
>Daily reminder that the Pareto Principle exists. 20% of men have sex with 80% of women.

Wrong. See below quote. Also remember that you don't get to arbitrarily apply the pareto principle to anything you want.

>Among adults aged 25-44, about 98% of women and 97% of men ever
had vaginal intercourse
>https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf (the above quote is in the abstract.)

I've been seeing this survey posted a lot recently. I would like to point out that it may not be representative.
The survey is a national survey of the US(using only 13,495 people or 0.004% of the country's population). This means that mexicans, blacks, poor people, rich people, etc. were all part of the survey. Contrary to popular belief, we are not all the same, so an aggregate survey may not mean much for our purposes.
Then again, I could be wrong. I don't really know much about statistics.

>>38446426
no thanks cancer is no different then being divorce rape both are painful and it will kill you. men are more likely to commit suicide after a divorce.

>>38446435
Not really, they are usually the target of someone else's self interest. They consume energy and information, but I doubt many (if any) robots do what they actually want for themselves. They grew up doing what parents and teachers said while idling in front of a computer/tv in between, and now they're either totally lost or just listening to redditors/youtubers/etc.

It's one thing to imitate a role model while still being productive with your own ambitions, but robots constantly make threads about "depression" and how they have no ambitions in the first place.

>>38446441
>human nature never changed though
So in turn women were always like that. Their chains are just more loose nowadays
>>38446473
>You can't fucking compare a tiger to a human being
Yeah I can. The white tiger destroyed Siegfried and Roy's show. Did you not know that? Women have similar capabilities in that they can destroy your life for no reason whatsoever and they are rewarded for acting so. Just because she doesn't act on her potential doesn't mean she won't in the future.

>>38446556
>i can't drive a car because car accidents! too scary

>>38446563
nothing changed about chains either dummy.

>>38446544
>female attraction isnt solely based on looks alone
Yes it is and even if it isn't it is still by far the biggest part. And you still ignored my main point. Also kinda funny how you said people rate you 7.5/10 and now say looks don't matter. Wonder why it is always good looking people who tell you that. Maybe because looks and confidence go hand in hand?

I am worthless. The top 20% of men deserve to get all women because they have value and are attractive. I have no value to a woman, she can literally date any of the other 4 billion men on the planet. I am garbage and cannot attract a woman. Any value I have she can easily get from another, better men.

It's that simple. I am the bottom of the barrel and women can do better than me, so they do.

>>38446579
>nothing changed about chains either dummy.
Are you implying women are less free than they are today?

>>38446646
They really don't. It seems to me like you never talk to woman do you? Or never have been with a woman, because you're probably nervous, which is understandable considering you browse r9k. Looks matter but not to such an extent as you think. My friends almost all study computer science and I wouldn't say that they're lower than a 7 in the looks department. But they don't know what to do around woman because they NEVER interact with them, which makes them clueless what to do and thus not confident despite having the looks for it.

>>38437330
>he's holding it down for the culture he just interview cam'ron ffs
>nigger culture
kys

>>38446647
Giving up is the final redpill

>>38446348
I'm talking about the disorder senpai

>>38446557
I think we're talking about different robots. I was referring to the normies being considered TRUE robots, whereas the robots on /r9k/ are actually human compared to them.

It makes sense why /r9k/ robots exist though, you said it yourself. They were always given orders and never really had the opportunity to think for themselves, and now they're expected to contribute immensely to society now that they've been successful in schooling and in careers. But only in this decisionless upbringing do the robots see how corrupt some aspects of society are.

/r9k/ robots, you all have my sincere sympathy. You've been given the role of The Provider in society where you're expected to produce much of the ingenuity that society needs to function, albeit while not getting any of the spoils (money, women, etc). I understand why you feel the need to rebel and not do anything at all. After all, society expected you to give your all without any reward in sight.

>>38438256
men are not going to take care of women without the authority over the marriage or the family you retard but if you really want to help then you need to take women's rights. no voting rights for women and they should not be allowed to take my children if I am taking care of them.

>>38446646
>looks don't matter
He is in fact a liar. Looks matter the most
http://www.ibtimes.com/women-less-forgiving-toward-unattractive-men-study-1943420

>>38446694
Trust me, I've had sexual relationships with several women. While women all say that personality matters, looks are the true gatekeeper to a sexual relationship. You can be friends with many women based on your personality alone, but if your looks don't cut it, you're out of luck.

>>38446701

I didn't really give up, I just objectively know my own worth. Women can do better than me.

>>38446756
Don't believe what woman say, they don't know what they're talking about. Ofcourse looks matter over personality, bit that goes the same way for men to woman. We prefer looks over personality as well even if we don't say it. Sexual attraction works both ways. Confidence is smaller factor than looks obviously, but it definitely plays a big role in attraction. Confidence and being a man with average looks is basically all it takes to get with woman.

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>>38446738
This is a post I can agree with. Take away women's rights and you just might convert some MGTOW.

>>38438256
A government is nothing without it's people, and society operates the same way. When most of the producers in society decide to back out, it'll crumble and start over once again. The sad thing is that 90% of people either can't comprehend or don't care about the stupid bane which is feminism. You can yell at a person all you want, but if they don't listen you're just wasting air.

>>38441934
>>38436225
these
>>38435963
I laughed a little, but I think we both know people wearing x shirts are probably having more sex than anyone else. Think about. You would never see a robot wearing a shirt like that. Anybody wearing an x shirt probably parties regularly, and probably gets more sex than other people.

>>38435853
>hurr durr mgtow gimme an excuse to be lazy

You people are fucking retarded.You do realize that they have to pay you for your labor? I understand the lack of motivation, but don't pretend that you're hurting anyone other than yourself. mgtow is very far from mainstream. The economy wouldn't notice if every single person who's even heard of the term mgtow disappeared from the face of the earth.

>>38446694
>It seems to me like you never talk to woman do you? Or never have been with a woman, because you're probably nervous
Yes and want to know why? Because they fucking despise me. I know, I know I must be doing something right? That is what i kept telling myself and one day I realized why they all fucking hated me: Because I am an ugly fucking loser and people like you will never know how this feels. I had this girl that I used to talk to often and one day she went up to me and said: "You know you're disgusting, right?" and you will never have to know how that feels, that no matter what you do you will always be dirt to them because of how you look. And it fucking makes me mad when good looking people tell me how easy it is and how "confidence is key bro". Like a millionair telling an ethiopian child money can't buy everything.

>>38446804
You're absolutely right, women don't have higher thought capacity, and can't explicitly state what they want at any given time.

In theory your method works, however, what most males would consider "average" is in fact well below what women consider "average". A male that's rated 7 by his peers is around a 5 to a woman.

This is what most people really consider when they're looking for a mate:

Looks: 90%
Personality: 10%

Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.