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I've always wondered why I had feelings of fetishized emasculation,

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I've always wondered why I had feelings of fetishized emasculation, masochism, transgenderism, homosexuality,submission, etc.

I've been going to therapy for a year. I've rediscovered abuse from my childhood. An uncle, my older brothers friend and a stranger in a public bathroom (the most recent. I was around 9)

I'm 22 now. The desire to please will never go away. These experiences shaped my orientation. Over 50% of me looks back at them with fondness.

I literally don't feel right with a high self esteem or a dominant personality. I feel happier submitting and staying quiet.

I'm torn. I don't know if there's a high self esteem guy in me, or if I've been changed forever.

I've never been with a man because I've been afraid. I do t quite find them attractive, but the thought of an older, masculine manis lovely.

What should I do, girls and guys?

Have any of y'all been abused? Do you like it to a degree?


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>>38413091
I've always fetishized gender transformation, the emasculation aspect doesn't really do it for me. I blame living on a golf course and drinking too much gay frog water.

Also persistent, deep self loathing combined with latent misogyny. I think part of me feels that if I were a girl I could feel okay about not being the superman the people around me have built me up to be, because girls just have to look pretty and have babies to be successful in life while I've got to change the world.
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>>38413161
Is there a cure?

Do you really believe in gay frog water?

Why is that picture so hot and enticing?
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>>38413091

I'm sorry about what happened. I would alert anyone you can about your uncle. Maybe even your brother's friend.

My advice would be to continue with therapy and "try on" a more masculine/dominant demeanor. Give yourself a chance to enjoy it. You might find out you were just in the closet about -that-, not that you want to be a girl or whatever.

I was not sexually abused but I had a mentally ill authoritarian father that left me passive and afraid to stand up to anyone for most of my early 20s. Once I got over him and realized how damaged my dad was (imagine an abused dog trying to dominate everyone around him) - I got in touch with my masculine side, and actually turned into a man

Coming from the other side, you're in a position to be generally fearless, in a way a Chad might not be. I'm not afraid of failure. I'm not afraid of living on the street. I do what I want with my life. After I got over my shit, I was very forward with women and was pretty wreckless, in a good way. It all worked out and I've got wife/kids now

But good luck regardless of what you end up doing
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>>38413337
What did you do to get in touch with your masculine side?
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>>38413091
about 40-60% of single episode memories "discovered" in therapy sessions are confabulated especially those concerning abuse so keep that in mind
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>>38413387
>What did you do to get in touch with your masculine side?

Nothing revolutionary. I fixed my diet and sleep patterns first. The Mood Cure and The Perfect Health Diet books. My testosterone levels went up. I know it sounds like a meme but there are blood tests to show this

Then I started exercising more, drinking less. Alcohol and a bad diet will make you passive and tired all of the time, and I was an alcoholic - but young enough that it didn't mess me up too badly.

After I got my body together, mental stuff. I got off of the internet / porn (addicted to both), spent 3 months without either. I spent NYE that year reading a book at home instead of getting wasted.

After that, I read ---- but to not endorse!! --- a lot of PUA shit. While those guys are frequently idiotic, there's a lot of insight to be had with social dynamics. I started asking out women I usually wouldn't have. By that I mean, I wasn't pursuing one girl at a time, and was willing to have fun with any female who seemed attracted to me. Some of them were not hot, by typical standards, but I didn't care. Cleansed of porn and feeling confident, I just did what was natural, and ended up getting laid a fair bit.

I think the natural state of a man is being generally willing to have sex with any woman. When you get away from pornography this mentality comes back to you.

Fast-forward a bit and I'm suddenly the person in my peer group that gets laid a lot and doesn't worry about life. When I reached that point I found someone very special and attractive, and that's the whole story.

Having kids was another test and turned out to be the most fulfilling event in my entire life. Everything else before it was nothing compared to the joy and challenge of being a dad
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>>38413091
the only manly thing would be is to beat the shit out of your uncle. He would not go to the police risking his secret being out. I doesnt matter how many years have passed, there is always time for revenge
but you dont want that right, faggot? You want to be a submissive cuck and be filled by nigger dicks and contact AIDS
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>>38413646
I'm 5'9 and 145 lbs. he's prolly around 6' and big. But he's like 5 states away now anyways.

I do t feel good about it, but those harsh words made me feel turned on. I want to cure it. But i I itially feel so good. How do I stop that
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There's a lot of talk about "born this way" and how people don't choose their sexuality but honestly a big part of it comes from your experiences. There are a lot of bullied kids, picked last in gym class, with low self esteem desperate for male acceptance. Short, skinny, weak boys who never really feel like a man no matter what their age is, looking for an older, more masculine guy to impart and gift that to them. I think it's not necessarily a bad thing. It depends on how you feel about it, and how it's effecting your life. If it's causing you to self-harm for example, if it's clearly unhealthy physically or emotionally yes then it's a problem and you need to think about it more.
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>>38413875

I'm the advice-poster above.

I think you have a point. My argument for *trying* to be masculine is that life is short, and he should give it a chance before it's too late to do anything about it

Plenty of CEOs getting the BDSM-sub treatment on the side. It doesn't have to be one or the other. But masculine life is probably more fun
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>>38413544
>gets laid a lot
>Having kids

fuck off normslime
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>>38413091
That girl (male?) is incredibly cute.
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whaaaaat? a tranny with a history of abuse???? nah, bs, you were born that way, theres no way sexuality could be changed in any way by peoples experiences
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>not greentexting his story
why
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Why is this entire thread reddit spaced
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>>38415225
>Why is this entire thread reddit spaced

because these people still have hope
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>>38415225
Fags getting molested is a very reddit topic
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>>38415297
I don't think I'm a fag
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What did you tell your therapist? Did you literally tell him you crave cock? Srs question because I'm thinking about therapy as well
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>>38415441
Yes I did.

And that I like feeling girly

And like giving up control

Etc
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>>38413091
There was a study that gender-non-conforming boys get abused/raped more often than other boys, but unfortunately I can't find the link anymore.
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>>>/lgbt/
Fuck off normie
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>>38415552

here you go my famalam

http://www.oocities.org/transsexual_analysis/transsexual5.html

I had it open in another tab since reading about men being abused turns me on which is the same reason I'm in this thread since I have the polar opposite problem
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I started fantasizing about girls bullying me since kindergarten, before I even knew what sex was
I have no clue why, but I think that my older sister has something to do with it as she took care of me for much of my childhood. I often called mommy by mistake, since she practically was a mother to me even though she is only 5 years older than me. She was mostly my only companion when child, she made the rules for games and appointed the roles. When she started going out, I replaced my sparetime with PC.
When I hit puberty at 14 I started browse porn and found femdom. Vanilla femdom gives me the kicks like no other, but I feel so fucking guilty of enjoying it
I literally cannot interact with girls at all and I don't think that I will ever have a gf, nor do I think that anyone would ever want me as I am.
I just wish an abusive cutie would tell me to kill myself and I'd do it in a heartbeat
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>>38415489
"Do you shave your legs?"
"Sure do, doc"
"What about the genital area?"
"Brazilian style, doc"
"So you keep your - excuse the wording - boipussy clean and tidy?"
"You really do go into details, doc!"
"Let's take a look at this, hrrm, detail, shall we?"
"Golly gee wilickers, doc! You sure have strong hands!"
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>>38413302
there's a chemical used to fertilize grass in the USA that's banned in Europe because it makes the frogs gay. I think it's called Atrazine.
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>>38416448
>boomerfags bitching and moaning about muh lawns fuck shit up again
figures
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>>38415884
Hawt desu

These things trigger me.
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>>38415622
>I had it open in another tab since reading about men being abused turns me on which is the same reason I'm in this thread since I have the polar opposite problem


Maybe we're meant for each other
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>>38413302
Because it just sounds wonderful to let your existential worries melt away into girlish bliss and ignorance. How fun and fine it would be to just be some cute bimbo girl who had no cares or desires except wearing pretty dresses, taking cocks and having babies.
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>>38416448
>>38416626
It's actually a herbicide, but it is banned and does have feminizing properties on sensitive animals like frogs and reptiles.
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>>38416705
Fucking boomers.


jctje hf
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I have the same problem. Cant really imagine being with a women but at the same time gay sex disturbs me. All the hair,sweat,smell,taste, etc mixing together is disgusting. Autogynephilia is terrible because it makes you desire a love that's not possible, and makes you neglect what is important in life. You cant be happy without love, and despite knowing that I'm still trying to find it anywhere else. I'll probably become really rich or something and kill myself in my 40s at this rate.
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>>38416689
God you're right

Idk.....

Idk if I should indulge those thoughts
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>>38416857
You can't be a girl though, traps are males.

If I could take a pill that turned me into a ditzy cockslave and baby factory I'd do it. But no such thing exists so I'll continue to go to the gym, ponder existence and do manly work.
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>>38417044
>tfw no mummy to help me become a braindead bimbo only good for producing lots of grandbabies for her to snuggle and love
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God damn

Is there no answer then? Just suffering?
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>>38417080
>tfw you've masturbated to nadine jensen for years but not because you want to fuck her, but because you want to be her
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>>38417157
We'll never be cured if we keep looking atthese
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>>38416689
>Because it just sounds wonderful to let your existential worries melt away into girlish bliss and ignorance. How fun and fine it would be to just be some cute bimbo girl who had no cares or desires except wearing pretty dresses, taking cocks and having babies.

This. Its the perfect escapism fantasy, just lay on your back, open your legs and receive dick.
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Is that healthy tho
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>>38417596
>escapism fantasy
>implying many of us don't do it irl
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>>38417688

Well at least I'm not that far gone. I'm gay af until I see a girl irl.
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>>38417709
>Well at least I'm not that far gone
>implying there's anything wrong with being a cumslut
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>>38417752
Is there if it's for bad psychological reasons ?
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>>38417474

There is no cure, stop looking for one. Just jerk off to fantasies and continue about your life like normal.
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>>38416741

Why don't you autists, who I presume watch too much trap porn and anime, just imagine being lesbians then?
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>>38418283
Id fuck a guy if I was a girl, its different
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>>38418441
>Id fuck a guy if I was a girl, its different
Would u fuck a pig if you were another pig?

wtf u on about
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>>38416705
There's also the birth control chemicals that have gotten into the water systems as well
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>>38418666
and the estrogen in the meat
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>>38418852
and chemicals that leech off of plastic which mimic estrogen as well
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>>38419102
>>38418852
>>38418666
>>38416705

Lol@your conspiratard ass

Yes I'm a neomale with boobs and happen to be gay but that doesn't mean all those things are true stupid twoofers

Also my cousin attended Sandy Hook
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>>38413091
I'm just like you OP
I don't think I've been abused though.
I could never go to therapy, I am a very reserved person I never talk about myself unless it's anonymous like on 4chan. I could never open up to some normalfag
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>>38419191
this isn't even conspiracy-tier. speculating the reasons for the decrease in testosterone might be, but the fact is it's happening.
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>>38413091
i don't know why, but reading this made me hard.
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>>38419368
And women have the audacity to bitch men being low t yet won't give up their slut pills.
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>>38413544
I don't think I care about myself enough to fix myself. I've tried to do all the things you describe but I always give up because I have a constant feeling that I am not worth the effort and I should just drift in and out of life.
Does anyone have any advice concerning this?
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