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Suddenly Bruce Perens doesn't want to talk to me.

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Suddenly Bruce Perens doesn't want to talk to me.

What happened? This was out of the blue:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00830.html

>OK, I apologize to all who were involved in this conversation. I will block further emails from "aconcernedfossdev" and no longer encourage him.
>
> Bruce

Tell me what's going on.

This was from a discussion on the GRSecurity situation.

More info at:
>>>/g/61383496
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I responded as such:
>OK, I apologize to all who were involved in this conversation. I will block further emails from "aconcernedfossdev" and no longer encourage him.
>
> Bruce

For what reason? Has some libel been spread about me? Who are you saying OK to? It seems that you are putting me in a false negative light now for what reason is there for blocking me? I have not been combative towards you and have simply explained the law as I see it regarding this situation, as-well as anticipating possible defenses that will have to be argued against.

I don't see why, for that, one would block me.
So there must be some libelous statement made by someone else that you are responding to. I wonder what was said...

Anyway, yes I am a licensed attorney. Yes I have answered the questions and ideas raised as best as I can, and yes I have informed those in this discussion, as-well as those reading it, as to the dangers of failing to bring a case within a reasonable amount of time once a cause of action has matured.

I have done my due diligence.

If you do not bring a case within the required time period, at law, you lose the right to seek damages. If you do not bring a case within a reasonable time and sit on your rights then equitable remedies also will be barred by laches.
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Imprisonment for contempt of court is not per-se a criminal matter. It is a situation where one can, at any time, comply with the court's request and regain one's liberty.

Cases involving repeated imprisonment for contempt of court include most often failure to pay a payment in a domestic matter (child support), as-well as increasingly failure to disburse funds in an action related to debt collection. Neither of such cases are matters of criminal law.

Your assertion that I am conflating the two is incorrect.

I gave it as an example to head off the idea that a court would look fondly on a plaintiff that stat on his rights and then attempted to head off a latches defense by claiming he could not afford council. Such is not a legal or physical impairment that a court would likely accept in most jurisdictions.

Why you now block me I do not know.

Give examples of a court in Pennsylvania (where Open Source Security is incorporated and has it's head office) where a latches defense failed because the plaintiff alleged that when he should have commenced an action he was short of funding.
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>>61383507
> He found out that you were a cis white male

Do you think someone tipped him off that I feel that Hans Reiser did nothing wrong, and that I support the book of Deuteronomy, especially Deuteronomy chapter 22 verse 28-29 (as written in hebrew) and am infavor of men taking young girls as brides (as allowed by the God of the Old Testament) am not a fan of women's rights, etc?

He was listening to me (for over a week), posted this:
https://perens.com/blog/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/

after my explanation of the law

which became this slashdot story (in which he comments):

https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/07/09/188246/bruce-perens-warns-grsecurity-breaches-the-linux-kernels-gpl-license


And then suddenly an hour or two ago, **poof**,

These are the people that were cc'd
Cc [email protected], [email protected], Eric Raymond, [email protected] contact


Which one do you think caused this?

I suspect ESR myself...
Your thoughts?

Do you think he'll now issue a retraction of his article, even though my understanding of the law is correct?
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did you mean to post this in /g/?
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>>10389
>Hey mikee, I wondered if you were going to pursue this, you were very outspoken in that thread on here. Why do you bother with the Debian mailing lists? You should know not to waste your time with them when they refused to package CEA. I think they hate you.

This was in a conversation directly with Bruce Perens with the debian list, RMS, etc Carbon Copy'd.

(I always do that because even though my emails are blocked within a day, my messages still get through in the > 'd replies and thus the conversation is backed up even if I lose access to the mail.)

He was talking to me for over a week and listening to my legal advice.

This induced him to write this:
https://perens.com/blog/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/

Which was then posted to slashdot as:
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/07/09/188246/bruce-perens-warns-grsecurity-breaches-the-linux-kernels-gpl-license

I see some of the language from my emails in Bruce's post (maybe we should archive.is it incase whatever caused him to stop talking to me suddenly...)

(Also I was also talking to the free software conservancy, RMS was talking to Bruce also due to my efforts, etc.)
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>>38384880
>did you mean to post this in /g/?

This is more of a social issue of Bruce Perens suddenly banning me for seemingly no reason after listening to my council for over a week.
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>>61384832
He accused me of conflating criminal law with civil law when I mentioned situations where a person is held in contempt of court for not being able to pay a judgement and held again and again and again because (while in jail) he still cannot pay. Now, obviously, that is not criminal-law per-se; just the consequences of disobeying the court in a civil matter. I gave it as a farcical example when Bruce was saying that laches wouldn't apply if a person couldn't pay a lawyer to argue an equitable remedy. I told him that the court would likely simply say that said person could represent himself; the only time they would find them incapable is if said person was physically, mentally, or legally (minor) incapacitated.

Then I got banned and he apologized to everyone seemingly as if I didn't know what I was talking about. Which places my name in a false negative light (a tort btw, related to libel).

>>61384848
>is shit starting to hit the fan for grsecurity?

No, It seems someone may have tipped Bruce off that he was talking to an anti-feminist, pro-marry-young girls, pro-Old-Testament God, person that does not believe that Hans Reiser did anything wrong.

Thus it looks like no one will do anything because to do something would please me: a pro-marry-young-girls anti-feminist person.

The free software conservancy doesn't want to do anything and actively councils people to rest on their rights (thus losing their causes of actions): https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00811.html
Could someone ask on twitter what Bruce's sudden problem is:

https://twitter.com/search?q=Bruce+Perens
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> whats going on here?

I was discussing legal matters with Bruce Perens having to do with GRSecurity's willful blatant violation of section 6 of the linux-kernel software license.

My couciling seems to have induced Bruce Perens to issue this advisory.

https://perens.com/blog/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/

Which was then posted to slashdot as:
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/07/09/188246/bruce-perens-warns-grsecurity-breaches-the-linux-kernels-gpl-license

Suddenly today he posted this to the mailling CC list:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00830.html

>OK, I apologize to all who were involved in this conversation. I will block further emails from "aconcernedfossdev" and no longer encourage him.
>
> Bruce


I want to know what happened.

His twitter account is here:
https://twitter.com/search?q=Bruce+Perens

And his email, which I am blocked from suddenly according to him, is here:
[email protected]


I did absolutely nothing to warrant this sudden black-listing.
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>>61385109

See this:
http://perens.com/blog/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/

That is a fruit of my legal council. I explained to may many lay people over the past month or two how GRSecurity was violating the license grant.

(Also See this:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/07/09/188246/bruce-perens-warns-grsecurity-breaches-the-linux-kernels-gpl-license
for discussion)

Are you going to continue to claim I'm a skitzo?

The evidence is stacking up in the other direction, you know. If I didn't know what I was talking about, my words wouldn't be listened to, as I wouldn't beable to explain in detail the issues.
>>61385100
> Mike is that you?

Yes, ofcourse, who else?

>>61385109
>The ramblings of a schizophrenic weeb.
>sage and move on...

I'm a licensed attorney.

And a programmer. And map maker. Etc

I guess having more than one hobby is "schizophrenic" to proud White Aryan MURICAN MEN! (who violently oppose their own interests and act as mere golems of the white woman having no will of their own).
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Shut the fuck up you powersperg
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I wish I was a schizophrenic weirdo. They always seem so happy in their delusions.
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