>these are the same species

yes, they both got cucked by foreigners, one being the anglos, the other one being the arabs

It's not surprising. They both have mouths, teeth, noses, hair, ears. They couldn't be more similar.

>>38383285
>They both have mouths, teeth, noses, hair, ears

bears have all those things

>>38383257
If aliens came to earth and made a listing of every existing species, how do you think they'd categorize different human races? Aa unique species, different breeds, or all the same?

>>38383294
Bears aren't human anon

>>38383301
>Bears aren't human anon

Do you have a single peer reviewed study to back up your claims

>>38383257
That's like trying to say that chihuahuas and German Shepherds aren't the same species.

There's much more to what determines a species than just physical look

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>>38383257
Yeah, what's your point?

>>38383296
Genetically humans of all races are h. sapiens.

>>38383301
But the thing on the left has all those things and isn't human.

>>38383320
>Genetically humans of all races are h. sapiens

Not all races fit in that taxon

>>38383257
they can procreate (well if they were differnt gender anyway) so they belong to the same species, unfortunately

>>38383316
they don't produce healthy offspring with humans

meaning bears aren't humans

>>38383347
Oh, so no source then...

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We are all the same, anon. dont be racist :)

>>38383335
Come on anon. She's clearly human. Stop being so mean.

>>38383316
Here ya go.

Can any two breeds of dog create offspring? What if you fertilized a great dane with chihuahua semen?

>>38383353
I don't have the obligation to educate you, that's your parents and your government

but I assume your parents don't love and your government doesn't care about you, but don't blame me

>>38383319

>There's much more to what determines a species than just physical look

There's nothing that determines a species, because "species" doesn't exist.

Biologists haven't even been able to come to a definition of what constitutes a species. It's basically meaningless.

>Inb4 if they can breed and produce fertile offspring they're the same species

No, there are countless exceptions to the extent that that "rule" is no rule at all.

>>38383373
>blah blah blah i have no evidence bla bloo

Same could be said by comparing Beyonce to trailer park pam

>>38383345
Ambystoma mavortium and ambystoma californiense can procreate but they count as different species.

>>38383372
you need c-section with certain breeds, so no, they cannot produce healthy offspring

>>38383382
>pls pls spoonfeed me!

>>38383372

Yes, dogs can interbreed.

They can also produce fertile offspring with coyotes.

The Eastern Coyote is actually a combination of coyote, wolf, and domestic dog.

>>38383391
do they usually procreate in the wild, or only in captivity?

>>38383378
>Biologists haven't even been able to come to a definition of what constitutes a species.
Literally this
According to the definition of "Subspecies" I could categorize Africans and Europeans as "Subspecies", because they are essentially the same "specie".

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>>38383391

The Asian leopard cat and the house cat aren't even in the same """genus""", but they can also procreate.

The truth is there is no hard and fast standard for where one species ends and another begins. Same with genus.

>>38383400
They started procreating in the wild since ambystoma mavortium became an invasive species in the other salamander's natural environment.

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>/pol/yp BTFO so hard he stops replying

gg faggot

>>38383437
>>/pol/yp BTFO so hard he stops replying

what? Most people in the thread are agreeing with OP...

>>38383408
You need to be a taxonomist to be able to determines subspecies

>>38383345
so can a tiger and a lion or a donkey and a horse. Are you actually retarded?

>>38383444
It's nice to live in the alternate reality where 60% of white people are racist as opposed to 30%

>>38383466
nope, none of their offspring is healthy

>>38383433
weird, maybe they aren't a subspecie after all

>>38383466
Fertile offspring is the key word.
The one on the left can learn to speak and do jobs and shit. It's not a complete animal. So it's human.
Besides they wuz kangz. Wuz monkeys kangz?

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So are these

>>38383471
>It's nice to live in the alternate reality where 60% of white people are racist as opposed to 30%

Take your meds grandpa

>>38383457

Taxonomists don't have a standard for how to determine where one species ends and another begins.

There are tons of disagreements between them of whether Wojackius feeler can be divided into W. feeler whenogf and W. feeler feelsbad, or whether they're "not different enough" to properly be divided into subspecies.

There is literally no objective standard they use to draw those lines.

>>38383488
>I don't know what I am talking about

>>38383457
>>38383457
You don't need to be a taxonomist to understand the process they use.
Taxonomy isn't exact either, taxonomists bitch and argue with each other like children.

>>38383257
>right one

Who?

>>38383517
kiira korpi, figure skater

>>38383347
>they don't produce healthy offspring with humans
Have you tried?

>>38383487

>Fertile offspring is the key word.

The offspring of an Asian leopard cat and a house cat are fertile, but those animals aren't even considered to be in the same genus.

Taxonomy is nowhere near as objective as people think it is. The move towards cladistics (grouping organisms based on common descent, drawing lines at the exclusion of animals that are not descended from branches higher and higher up the tree) is recent. Up until then it was basically MUH TRADITIONS.

>>38383378
Are you fuckin retarded? A species is something that can't mate with something else. There is a definition

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>>38383526
considering the fact that approaching a female bear will kill you, it's safe to assume

>>38383529
>are fertile
no they are not, you need to breed them in capticity so that they keep reproducing

>>38383320
Genetically all dogs are the same animal but no one will deny there are more intelligent dogs

>>38383508
Then races are arbitrarily determined. There is no "white race".

>>38383530

Read the thread and get back to me.

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>>38383257
these are also the same species

>>38383556
>are the same animal
>animal

>when a /pol/yp wants to enter the conversation but has absolutely no clue of what vocabulary to use

lol

>>38383495
>30% of the votes of all Europeans go to alt-lite candidates
>40% of the whites in america vote trump
Yeah maybe 40% are racist if you're an ameridum

>>38383457
Science doesn't work by authority.
What is proven, is proven.
What is written, is said.

The International Code of Zoological Nomenclature is the ultimate authority on Taxonomy.

According to the working definitions, humans WOULD be split into "Subspecies".. But the only real reason we're not is because of politics. The whole thing is biased anyway, because nomenclature is social in structure.

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fuck niggers and nigegr lovers

>>38383575
>he doesn't understand laymen terms

are you autistic?

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we are not the same race

>>38383579
Holy shit fuck off dude, I don't even care

>>38383538

>no they are not, you need to breed them in capticity so that they keep reproducing

That's not the definition of "fertile". They can and will have sex with each other, and the offspring produced can also reproduce sexually. That's fertile. That this normally occurs in captivity is irrelevant.

Asian leopard cats will readily breed with house cats if given the opportunity, on top of that. Artificial insemination is not required.

You really don't know nearly as much about this as you think you do.

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>liberal "science"

>>38383557
no shit
why don't you think we give the irish so much grief
just as white as arabs if you ask me but no really has it nailed down

best indicator is the specific haplogroups imo

>>38383580
There is no scientific method to determining what counts as a subspecies.

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>people in china are generally shorter than people in scandinavia and make for worse basketball players
>"hmm yes I will accept that"

people in africa are generally less intelligent than people in europe and are worse at everything that takes intelligence (i.e. everything)
>"NO SHUT UP YOU DUMB BIGOT RACIST REEE YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT"

>>38383575
Some dogs are specifically bred to be more intelligent.

>>38383604

no

according to liberals, IQ tests are inherently designed to work against people in a lower socio-economic setting

:^)

>>38383588
>has absolutely no clue about the subject
>l-layman terms!

lol

>>38383599
yes it is, fertility does not only involve the reproductive act, fertility involves the creation of a living form that can continue reproducing, ligers are too retarded to do so, therefore are not fertile, otherwise we would see massive populations of ligers

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>>38383587
>>38383595
>>38383604
>>38383616
sperg more

>>38383627
intelligent dogs with no training are just as retarded as the avergae mutt dog

>>38383616
Look at the size of the left skull, he must have been a super-genious

>>38383653
>intelligent dogs with no training are just as retarded as the avergae mutt dog
But in case you try to train them they'll learn faster.

>>38383538
>a female bear will kill you
So will a black male, doesn't stop roasties

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>>38383653
not an argument, retarded nigger lover

>>38383257
Yes.
An ugly old man who is missing teeth due to a life of extreme poverty, getting in fights, shit diet etc. is the same species as a young female athlete/model who had an exemplary upbringing and access to everything she needed and wanted.

>>38383257
Nice juxtaposition. It's an /r9k/ fembot vs Stacey.

I wouldn't go as far as to say we are a different species, but I think any honest taxonomist would say we are a different sub-species.

There are more significant differences in phenotypes between different groups of humans than there are between the different sub-species of tiger.
It'd take an expert to tell the tigers apart.
There is very, very little genetic difference between those tiger species, a lot of their classification is based on geographical isolation alone.
Yet they are classified differently, while the suggestion humans should also be is considered abhorrent.

We have a different physiology, generally different behavioural patterns, and were geographically isolated from one another.
This would be enough for any other animal to be split into sub-species.
Why not us?

People bring up that the different races only vary genetically by about 0.1%.
This seems tiny, but we are 98.5% genetically identical to a chimp.
Hell, we're something like 70% identical to a tomato.
Obviously when it comes to genetics, small variations can account for a lot.

I would understand if there was a rigorous debate amongst taxonomists about how humans should be classified, but it seems like people are unwilling to approach the conversation at all.
They can hardly be blamed for doing so, with the way people react to it.

>>38383257
tfw no finnish gf REEEEEEEEEE

>>38383538
>considering the fact that approaching a female bear will kill you, it's safe to assume
That's because of institutionalised prejudice

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>>38383630
>>38383689
because it hurts the inferior species feelings

>>38383604
>conservatives want lower taxes despite how that only benefits the rich
>smart
Conservatives are idiots desu senpai.
They hate themselves and think they'll make it big despite the fact that most of them have been poor for thousands of years and still are.

>>38383684
thats an aboriginal woman, they all look like that unfortunately, this one is not a special case.

>>38383671
yeah

sadly not every dog receives training, and some mutt dogs do receive training, so if you want an intelligent dog, you need to get a trained one

>>38383673
thats because white people are dumb

>>38383679
sperg more

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>>38383703
lower taxes benefit everyone idiot

>>38383556
>Dogs

I'm glad you brought them up.

>mongrel, cross breed dogs are inherently more healthy than "purebreds"
>"race mixing" or miscegenation is somehow bad.

Please square this circle.

>>38383708
All dogs are born untrained.
The smarter the dog is, the easier it will be to train them.
Some dogs are genetically smarter than others because their parents were specifically selected for their intelligence.

>>38383697
if you want to approach a bear ask put your penis inside, go ahead, if you are able to produce healthy offsrping, then bears are humans

>>38383701
there are no such thing as specie within the human race

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>>38383718
Race mixing would be good between two good races

Race mixing between a good race and a bad race is always bad than the good race

>>38383706
Oh did you check her genitals for us?

>>38383630
Actual liberal here, most of us believe that since minorities have worse schools and drop out more, of course kids grow up dumb. The truth is that poor people are stupid, and blacks are poor.

>>38383630
>according to liberals, IQ tests are inherently designed to work against people in a lower socio-economic setting

Except when they made that study showing Republican voters had a lower average IQ.
Apparently then IQ was an objective and accurate way of measuring intelligence.

>>38383611
Exactly...
Taxonomy isn't science. It's just categorization and words.

If I could be the authority, I would define species as: "Organisms capable of breeding to produce offspring with 80% fertility success rate or above.

I would define subspecies as being 95%+ viable for fertility; that the only defining feature is geological separation and definitive natural adaptation to their environment.

This would make humans into subspecies.

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>>38383727
Keep telling that to yourself tyrone

>can interbreed and produce fertile offspring
>Not same species

OP confirmed for retard.

>>38383714
Yeah it sure benefits the poorfag that earns a few extra grand. It's not like those taxes could be used to fund better schools, roads, government buildings and tons of other shit.
Rural white conservatives should pull the trigger on that shotgun they're always fucking.

>>38383347
polar bears can produce offspring with grizzly bears
polar bears are grizzly bears
european bisons can produce offsprings with cattle
european bisons are cattle
bottlenose dolphins (male) can produce offspring with false killer whales (female)
male bottlenose dolphins are false killer whales
tigers can produce offspring (the males are infertile) with lions
tigers are lions

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>>38383257

>these are the same species

Yeah, I'm totally gonna do this in every single thread like this, so get ready because this is my official trap card for whenever you make this, bro. And you just activated it.

>>38383735
What makes a race good? I see a lot of black people excelling in sport and culture.

>>38383714
>it will tricke down!

lol

>>38383726
>The smarter the dog is, the easier it will be to train them.
nope, the more experienced the trainer is, the better the dog will end up like, smart dogs can manipulate inexperienced trainers

>Some dogs are genetically smarter than others because their parents were specifically selected for their intelligence.
this doesn't mean an specific example of this breed is more intelligenet than another one, as the second breed could have received better training

>>38383742
not black, sperg more

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>>38383752
Yeah because entrusting the government with more power has always been a good idea right?
It's not like you could use the extra money you save to get the same services but better.

>>38383754
I forgot about wolves and coyotes, those can breed too

>>38383689
There are species with more genetic variety. Given the number of human populations and their sheer success in the evolutionary game, it makes sense that they would have a large genetic variation.

The tiger is not the best organism to compare humans to, as their lack of genetic variation is due to their low reproductive rate and possible population bottlenecks.

The classification of species is very wishy-washy anyway, and the only people who really care about how humans are taxonomically classified between each other are the two opposite ends of the spectrum: those who are obsessed with humans all being presented as equal, and those who are obsessed with distinguishing between the races. Neither side has a scientific incentive.

>>38383751
>getting angry and responding seriously to obvious bait

Anon confirmed for autistic.

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>>38383736
Did you? In case you've never seen an australian abbo before, the females really do look like that. You can try to google some yourself.

>>38383742
Fake statistics made by the racist white man.

>>38383633
>>has absolutely no clue about the subject

Not that guy but you seem like you're grasping at straws in order to not appear retarded/angry/autistic

>>38383766
severe lack of arguments there my melanin rich friend

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>>38383758
Their accomplishments for example
Sports are a measure of physical strength. You could train an animal to run fast and it would perform better than any human. Except white people can engineer a machine that performs even better.
What's black culture?

>>38383767
>a civlian could and would pay for the complex logistical issues a governement has to deal with

lol

>>38383754
yet we don't see massive population of such offsrping

strange, almost as if they weren't fertile

>>38383296
yes. they would categorize the two smartest and most evolved species: whites and asians and then they'd categorize the species that stayed further down the evolutionary path like blacks and indians(curry) and indians(red) and all the other subspecies of untermensch

>>38383791
>lol
lol

There. I won the argument just by loling at your post
Your move now.

>>38383782
>buzzwords
lol

>>38383783
I have no melanin in my skin

sperg more

>>38383802
>>buzzwords

where?

>>38383758
i'd say low crime rates would be a good metric to start with

>>38383587
aboriginals aren't black you cumguzzlers, they aren't even congoid.

>>38383701
Your crime per Black/Hispanic graph has higher increments on the x-axis than the crime per poverty graph, making the line steeper, dumbass.

>>38383791
>the government is a supernatural force and not composed of humans
>the government has supernatural powers that allow it to do functions that are otherwise impossible for regular people

>>38383802
They're not buzzwords if they're applicable, are you legitimately retarded?

>>38383789
>we wuz engineers n shit!

>>38383799
you finally won something in your life

congrats, if only you'd won stacy's heart, she wouldn't have left with tyrone then

>>38383791
zubrons, pizzly bears, wholpins and coywolves are fertile
only female ligers are fertile
we don't see much of them because animals very rarely fuck something that isn't a member of their own species

>>38383830
>we don't see much of them because animals very rarely fuck something that isn't a member of their own species

but CNN told me it's natural to have children between different species (white woman and black man)

>>38383814
>>the government has supernatural powers that allow it to do functions that are otherwise impossible for regular people

basically, yes, are you able to form a similar structure that is able to deal with the logistical problems that a government has to deal on a daily basis?

>brotip: no


>>38383815
>>38383804
next time use actual arguments

>>38383766
You can train a dobermann to perform very complex tricks, but a golden retriever who received the exact same training will outperform it because it's naturally more intelligent.
You can train a golden retriever to protect your property, but a dobermann who received the exact same training will be a better guardian because its ancestors were specifically selected for their territorial traits.

>comparing fucking fish and dogs to humans
Can you /pol/ faggots just take your pseudo-science and jump off a cliff? It's so old now

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>>38383844
>>38383824
You're just shitposting now. I'm done with this discussion.

>>38383727
>there are no such thing as specie within the human race
Maybe, because "the human race" is not a taxonomic classification.

Our species (Homo sapiens), may very well have subspecies within it.
It gets a little complicated because modern humans, all of them, have already been classified as Homo sapiens sapiens, a subspecies under Homo sapiens, to differentiate us from an earlier ancestor.
We could be further divided from that point, but it may require doing away with our current subspecies classification and dividing us into new ones.

Regardless, it isn't about sperging out over taxonomic classifications, it's about questioning why people are so unwilling to even consider that different human populations in vastly different environments, some isolated for 60,000+ years, may have evolved different characteristics.
If there was enough evolutionary pressure to so drastically change our appearances, how can we say that there was not enough pressure to select for different mental characteristics, like aggression, or time preference?

>>38383844
>next time use actual arguments

The entirety of your rebuttal this whole thread has been "lol"

>>38383830
if we don't see massive populations of them then they aren't ferile, fertility also involes the creation of a population that can support itself and can continue reproducing

we do se that in humans, therefore humans are the same specie

>>38383841
>different human species
no such thing

>>38383841
it is natural but you should do it because a child you'd have with a member of your own race/species would be superior to the one you'd get from race/species mixing

>>38383852
where is the pseudo science in saying different groups of people in vastly different regions of the world may have evolved differently?

liberals will accept differences in skin and hair color because of evolution but not difference in brain power? why?

>>38383863
lol you're fucking autistic

>>38383852
lol #rekt XD

>>38383347
Where's the study showing it?

>>38383770
>Neither side has a scientific incentive.
But only one seems even willing to discuss it.

>>38383854
>facts are shitposting because my feefees are hurt
>better post my meme image
lol

>>38383848
pretty much, so you agree that training is much more important than the breed then

>>38383861
>may very well have subspecies within it.
how so? these so called "sub-species" usually produce fertile and healthy offspring that continues the life cycle

>>38383862
thats because I find pseudo-science funny

>>38383875
lol butthurt

>>38383892
>thats because I have no arguments

ftfy

>>38383892
>>38383854
>facts are shitposting because my feefees are hurt
>better post my meme image
lol
lol
>>38383848
pretty much, so you agree that training is much more important than the breed then
lol
>>38383861
>may very well have subspecies within it.
how so? these so called "sub-species" usually produce fertile and healthy offspring that continues the life cycle
lol
>>38383862
thats because I find pseudo-science funny
lol
>>38383875
lol butthurt
lol

>>38383892
>butthurt

Kill yourself my dude

>>38383863
>if we don't see massive populations of them then they aren't fertile
they produce working sperm and eggs, we don't see massive populations of them because hybrids are very rare for the reason I stated in the post you're replying to

>>38383874
> will accept differences in skin and hair color because of evolution but not difference in brain power
Because those aren't close to the same thing you autist, and stop calling everyone with a different opinion than you a "librul". It makes you sound even more inbred. The pseudo-science is in the fact that all you faggots ever have to show are the ever so tiring and irrelevant IQ test and of course the cherry picked images like OP's pic.

>>38383872
>you'd have with a member of your own race/species would be superior to the one you'd get from race/species mixing
*citation needed*

>>38383899
>>38383902
>>38383907
look how hard these guys are sperging lol

>>38383854
Thats..not what mulatto people look like..at all. Lovely display of the spergies mixed with ignorance though.

I doubt rednecks and niggers have different IQ.

>>38383909
>Because those aren't close to the same thing you autist

Actual biological anthropology post grad student here, they literally are.

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>>38383909
Why is an IQ test irrelevant? How about crime statistics? Or wealth by race? Or literally anything else?

>>38383917
>look how hard these guys are sperging lol

Not him but you've been sperging out this entire thread lmao

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>>38383918
what do mulatto people look like?
certainly not white

>>38383902
>pretty much, so you agree that training is much more important than the breed then
No, not really. Even without training a dobermann will instinctively protect the door because it's in its genes, just like a golden retriever will instinctively understand the complex game you want to play because it's genetically predisposed for that.

>>38383908
>there are species because they are species

no, that is circular logic, the reason we don't see important populations is because the offspring isn't healthy or fertile, again, fertility involves not only procreation but the development and raising of their offspring

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WE WUZ BETTER THAN WHITES

>>38383924
>society is egalitarian

how's that multi-billion dollar company coming along?

>>38383924
They're all made by racist sources.

>>38383931
Well of course not because they are MIXED, they don't look black either. Keep posting your autistic cherry pick memes for your lack of logic maybe it will be worth something one day.

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>>38383952
what are you exactly trying to say here?

and our society is certainly not egalitarian- it's very racist in fact. racist toward whites.

>>38383952
>>society is egalitarian

That's not applicable to any of the discrepancies he's referring to

>>38383958
>They're all made by racist sources.

sauce?

>>38383924
crime statistics and wealth by race can be explained by cultural and ethnic factors

basically black "culture" is trash and it's not a healthy environment for science and education to prosper, once isolated from this environment black people perform as good as other phenotypes

>>38383930
>>38383943
you are still sperging

>>38383934
>a dobermann will instinctively protect the door because it's in its genes
lol no, a improperly trained doberman will rip it's owner face off

>>38383961
The Law of Sewage: A drop of wine in a barrel of sewage makes sewage; a drop of sewage in a barrel of wine makes sewage.

>>38383917
>*citation needed*
I don't think researching cons and pros of racemixing is allowed due to hate speech and anti-discrimination laws
I think Brazil is a good example of why racemixing is a bad idea

>>38383633

I wasn't talking about ligers. I was talking about Asian leopard cats and housecats.

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>>38383975
>once isolated from this environment black people perform as good as other phenotypes
Wrong.

>>38383975
>posting something I dont like is sperging!

>>38383966
Racism-affirmative action=neutrality

I see nothing wrong there.

>>38383924
None of those are confirmed to be factors based on genetics. There's more proof they're due to past conflicts and environmental factors like the drug/crack epidemics, oppression, segregation etc. You deny it all you want but it's more factual than anything you just taking negative statistics and blaming it on genetics. You're being retarded

>>38383990
>I see nothing wrong there.

Because you're racist.

>>38383902
>how so? these so called "sub-species" usually produce fertile and healthy offspring that continues the life cycle
Yes, this is also the case for other animal's subspecies.
You are thinking of species-level classification, not sub-species.

We are not as different as a tiger and a lion.
We are as different as a Bengal tiger and a Siberian tiger.

>>38383966
thats because whites are inferior to jews and asians

>>38383981
so you cannot back up your claims?

>>38383982
where are the important populations of such living forms then?

>>38383986
>america
nope, still not isolated

>>38383988
you just did it again

>>38383967
>>38383966
Blacks and Whites were segregated until 60 years ago, and they're still hypersegregated today. It's only been 150 years since slavery was abolished in America. A couple decades of affirmative action isn't enough to confirm that Blacks are inferior to Whites.

>>38383296
subspecies, like the desert fox or the arctic fox
they'd likely have a similar situation on the aliumworld

>>38383986
93 IQ is pretty high for a nigger. Explain that when their normal IQ is 83.
Why does it go up by 10 points when adopted by a white?
Makes you think.

>>38383977
Only when sperglord stormfags claim something is sewage and wine though, in reality it's more like random genetics mixing with other random genetics. Not wine and sewage anon

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>>38383990
If tests were done blindly, there would be no black in universities. They only get in because of the color of their skin. How's that not racist?

>>38383986
/thread

All you reddit faggots fuck off now.

>>38384009
>Makes you think.

And yet they're still the least intelligent, hmm

>>38384005
Affirmative action only helps white women.

>>38384009
IQ is 60-80% biological. That's why niggers in America have slightly higher IQ than niggers in Africa. You can get them a couple deviations higher but that's all that can be done. 93 IQ is still too low to live in a western modern society - remember that an average of 93 IQ means half the people are below that.

>>38383996
no. Universities were biased towards whites. That had to be countered with affirmative action.

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>>38383257
It goes both ways, stormcuck.

>>38384016
>it's the boogeyman

>>38384014
that can be fixed with more education programs that are aimed correctly instead of overcharging the existing one

>>38384003
>so you cannot back up your claims?
I did, with anecdotal evidence, no actual evidence exist because attempting to produce it is racist

>>38384016
Too bad it's literally one study of a handful of children from over 4 decades ago

>>38384028
All the rural racist redneck whites are around 93 IQ though.

>>38384005
Jews have been persecuted everywhere for thousands of years and they score higher than whites on IQ tests and their wealth per capita is higher than anyone else and their crime rate is virtually zero.

>>38384030
lol you racists retards will say anything to justify your hateful ideology

>>38383986
/thread

everybody go home

>>38384011
100 white ancestors and 1 black ancestors make you a nigger

100 black ancestors and 1 white ancestor still makes you a nigger

>>38384028
>>38384009
>>38384025
this is true, everyone but the most intelligent fenotypes should be segregated and eliminated, which includes whites

only jews and certain asians should be allowed to exist

>>38383737
or maybe stupid people are poor?

>>38384044
I'm sorry evidence upsets you

>>38384044
show us a newer study that says adopted black children get indistinguishable from white children

>>38384040
Yea cause brazil being supposedly bad is anecdotal evidence that race mixing doesn't work, not the fact it's a nation of rape babies, cartels and corrupt politicians.

>>38384076
>evidence
not peer reviewed, so it's not evidence

>>38384087
Kill yourself, you got btfo

>>38384046
Because they had the advantage of usury for much of history. Judging only by intelligence as measured by IQ tests and student performance, East Asian countries are by far the most "superior race" anyway.

>>38384040
The reason it's racist is because the major believes in equality.

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>>38383737
>Actual liberal here, most of us believe that since minorities have worse schools and drop out more, of course kids grow up dumb. The truth is that poor people are stupid, and blacks are poor.

Wrong. It's been tried. Didn't work.

>>38384064
>100 white ancestors and 1 black ancestors make you a nigger

Im >1% east asian
we wuz samarais

>>38384082
studies are inhenrently flawed, the issue must be approached on an individual basis

>>38384057
>>38384016
Nice samefag, friendarino

>>38384076
I'm sorry you have no evidence
>>38384082
When i even find a newer more accurate study that attempts this i'll get back to you till then we can just keep up with the indisputable fact that the global black iq is rising faster than whites anyway.

>>38384083
and mulattos

>>38384064
I'm glad you think like this.
Jews are human and being anything else is being subhuman.

>>38384108
>till then we can just keep up with the indisputable fact that the global black iq is rising faster than whites anyway.

kek

>>38383986
/thread

That's pretty much the thread

>>38384003

>where are the important populations of such living forms then?

In captivity. What's your point? They still readily mate and produce fertile offspring. The offspring of an Asian leopard cat and a housecat is an F1 bengal cat.

The F1 bengal can be bred to another bengal cat, or a house cat, or an Asian leopard cat. It is not infertile.

>>38384117
Most are of mixed spanish and native descent so no.

>>38384104
>studies are inherently flawed, the issue must be approached on an individual basis

t. actual retad

>>38384097
>america
nope, in order to fix america's educational system, you need more than just investing money on it

>>38384091
>pls pls belive my flawed data!

>>38384092
>usury is bad

>>38384136
>flawed

care to explain?

>>38384136
>lol le lele le leele xdd sperg more lele lol lol

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>>38383737

Maybe blacks are poor because they are stupid

>>38384136
>>usury is bad
????????????? i did not say this

>>38384093
thanks for stating the obvious anon

>>38384064
then you are a nigger because all homosapiens originate from africa

>inb4 article repost "scientist found a bone in europe, homosapiens wuz europeen!!1"

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>>38383737
Why are poor whites doing better than rich blacks?

>>38384135
sperg more

>>38384133
>in captivity
therefore they cannot create healthy, successful and fertile offspring in the wild, which means they are actually different species, humans can actually produce healthy, successful and fertile offspring in between the different fenotypes, which means they are the same specie

Regardless of taxonomy, it really seems it'd be best for everybody if we just lived separately.

Imagine never having to have this conversation again.

>>38384119
>i'll laugh it off till it's not true

>>38384153
>sperg more

I just hope you know how ignorant and stupid your original statement was.

>>38384148
and we all originated from fishes so nothing of this matters blub blub

>>38384164
Do you have evidence to back up your claims?

Race! Run! Jump! Hide! Flight or fight response! Science is the holocaust, your shallow perspectives cost you dearly. FUCK ME IN HELL FUCK WHITEY ASWELL

>>38384155
Human history is that of migration, and all countries closing their borders would no doubt sour relations. Our future, whether you like it or not, is a multicultural one.

>>38384139
not peer reviewed

>>38384140
you are still sperging

>>38384145
yes you did????????

>>38384152
>america
flawed data

>>38384155
already happened, people sperged about hair color
>omg a ginger!

>>38384152
>Why are black drug dealers going to jail more than poor white people?
>Why are black people more likely to receive more brutal convictions?

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>>38384119
Trump knows this and is trying to stop it by starting world war 3 to kill everyone else before they raise their IQ over whites.

>>38383737
>poor people are stupid
other way around

>>38384181
lol you're getting hit with hard studies disproving your liberal fairytale land and you just keep making more and more excuses this is fucking hilarious

>>38384167
>people are the same, there is no margin of error in most studies, specially sociology

this is you lol

>>38384182
>>Why are black people more likely to receive more brutal convictions?

Because of their prior arrests

>>38384152
American data is fake data. Besides whites submissive and therefore just kill themselves instead of other people when they're poor.

>>38384175

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/12/22/changes-in-the-american-black-white-iq-gap-1916-2016/

https://www.amren.com/news/2007/10/the_skyrocketin/

Just a few

It's almost like with less segregation and access to better education, your iq might rise. Well it's still a useless number regardless.

>>38384199
You are really dumb. You have no idea how statistics works, do you

>>38384213
>with less segregation

segregation is good, humans naturally want to be with their own tribe

>>38384153

>therefore they cannot create healthy, successful and fertile offspring in the wild

You can't draw that conclusion. The Asian leopard cat has a very narrow range compared to the house cat, which exists on all inhabited continents both in captivity and in a feral state. It's very possible that in the range of the Asian leopard cat, there are healthy hybrids in the wild, even if this has yet to be studied.

There is zero evidence that a bengal cat would not survive to reproduce in the wild.

But to give a more documentable example, the wolf and the coyote.

They're considered different species, but have interbred, in the wild, to the extent that in New England, the coyote-wolf hybrid has been so successful that is has replaced both coyotes AND wolves.

And yet the coyote and wolf are still considered different species, even though their crossbreeds are fertile, healthy, and more successful than either parent.

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>>38383345
>>38383257

But not the same breed of course.

Some dogs are just shit.

>>38384178
>Human history is that of migration,
Not nearly to the extent it has been happening in the last century.
We haven't had the technology to facilitate that.
>and all countries closing their borders would no doubt sour relations.
But our current system is resulting in social conflict within our own borders, and it doesn't seem to be diminishing.
With changing demographics, there's likely to be conflict sooner or later.
I would rather slightly damage relations with another nation than put up with racial conflict in ours.
>Our future, whether you like it or not, is a multicultural one.
People can shape the future, anon.

the same irrelevant and baseless stormfag arguments show up every single time
>hey look at this chart, genetic amiright!1!?!?
>hey look at this century old study- i mean fact, genetic right guiz!?!?

i'm so done

also fun fact the average white IQ was 60 a century ago.

>>38384249
>i'm so done

ok bye

>>38384181
>already happened, people sperged about hair color
>>omg a ginger!

If the conflict there is between racial groups was on the same level as banter over somebody's hair colour, there'd be no problem.
But it is much more serious, and has the potential to lead to large scale violent conflict.

>>38384226
Then you would have italians seperated from germans, seperated from irish etc. Your "tribe" no longer exist and serves no purpose, if it did it wouldn't be the artificial supergroup called "White" that all pale european descent humans are lumped into these days.

>>38384182
Repeat offences.

>>38384245
"Racial conflict" is almost entirely created by extremists (who exist on all sides) and those who are determined to seek out differences and conflict between races. It's a cycle feeding itself.

>>38384272
Europe for europeans, asia for asians, africa for africans

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>>38384186
>IQ of developing countries is increasing overtime
but I thought IQ was genetic and not related to enviromental factors /pol/?

also

>daddy trump will save me and tuck me under the sheets at night
lol

>>38384198
nope, non-peer reviewed and small sample sized american studies are simply too irrelevant

>>38384218
>he is still unable to understand his mistake
lol

>>38384230
yes I can, because there are no healthy, succesful and fertile populations of the mixtures you are describing

>There is zero evidence that a bengal cat would not survive to reproduce in the wild.
the fact that they don't exist is evidence on this

>And yet the coyote and wolf are still considered different species
weird, perhaps they should not be considered different species afterall, science is sometimes wrong

>>38384226
Separation is good. Malcolm X said so. And he made the nation of Islam a multi million dollar organisation. The funny thing is that no whiteys allowed and they still made it big.

>>38384290
You're legitimately autistic my dude

>>38384284
all europeans aren't the same, all asians aren't the same, all africans aren't the same so they aren't all the same tribe. Also if you strongly believe this you should also believe europeans should have stayed in europe and never profit from "exploring" asia, america or africa. Though they probably would have died off by now if so

>>38384290
>but I thought IQ was genetic and not related to enviromental factors /pol/?
No, it is affected by both.
Most data indicates it's around 75-90% genetic.

It's like height.
An environmental factor like poor nutrition might make a person not reach their potential height, but it is still limited by genetics.

Only reason you can't call blacks a different race is because of Hitler.

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>>38384267
>racial groups
no such thing

>>38384284
africa for homo sapiens, the rest of the world for no one,

we can even go further back, oceans for bacteria, land is inhabitable

>>38384182

>black drug dealers: always have guns, sell to anyone instead of only people they know are OK, deal on street corners, generally stupid and violent people
>white drug dealers: some are like the above but generally much more careful and professional about the whole thing (only sell to clients who can be vouched for, don't carry weapons, don't deal in public)
>libfags whine about why black dealers get arrested more than white dealers, hurr must be racism
Buying from a nog dealer and a white dealer is night and day difference

>>38384327
this image is out of date
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170523083548.htm

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>>38384319
but that graph shows that it is 0% genetic, since the developing world is now at the same level as the developed one

>>38384299
that's it, sperg more

>>38383278
/thread
forever

>>38384280
Yes, that is true.

At least in our relatively comfortable first world nations. I feel that divisions would be drawn along racial lines should our easy, comfortable lives be disrupted in any major way.

Regardless, those extremists are always going to exist, they're always going to be part of the population.
Is it really wise to build your society out of different groups that can be riled up into hatred for each other by a few extremists?

>>38384349
alright then, since the oldest hominid is from europe, all hominids descendants should move to europe :v)

>>38383684
lol dumb fuck tries to defend this shit and MISGENDERS the poor abbo sweetheart. congrats. even you couldn't tell it was a woman

>>38384290

>yes I can, because there are no healthy, succesful and fertile populations of the mixtures you are describing

You don't know that to be the case.

>the fact that they don't exist is evidence on this

They very well may exist. There's no reason to suppose that if a bengal cat escaped into the wild in the US, it wouldn't breed with any house cats it encountered. Same for if a house cat escaped into the native territory of the Asian leopard cat.

Just because these populations haven't been documented doesn't mean they don't exist, and even if they didn't exist, even that wouldn't imply that the reason they don't is because the ALC and house cat offspring are somehow "weak" or "infertile".

To give one example, assuming they don't exist in, say, California, that could be because Bengal cats are expensive, so their owners may be less likely to let them roam than a typical cat owner, therefore they have fewer opportunities to impregnate feral cats. That doesn't mean the bengal cat is weak or has reduced fertility.

>weird, perhaps they should not be considered different species afterall, science is sometimes wrong

And yet I don't know of any taxonomists who are trying to get the coyote and wolf classified as the same species.

>>38384375
no
niggers should stay in their hellhole

>>38384361
such society already exist since our post-modern society is a global one

the only option was socialism, this meant having the human cattle completly controlled and sterilized, but they wanted their freedom so badly

>>38384396
nope, you said it, things should go back to their place of origin :v)

>>38384395
>You don't know that to be the case.
yes I do

>They very well may exist.
no, they don't, or else we would know about them

>Just because these populations haven't been documented doesn't mean they don't exist
thats pretty much how it works

>And yet I don't know of any taxonomists who are trying to get the coyote and wolf classified as the same species.
I don't know any taxonomist that claims coyote-wolf hybrids have completly decimated coyote and wolf population either

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>it's another /pol/ gets BTFO episode

>>38384350
>but that graph shows that it is 0% genetic, since the developing world is now at the same level as the developed one
I don't actually know what is going on with that graph, if the numbers on it are correct the average person is very mentally retarded.

The way there is a perfectly linear increase leads me to believe they've just taken two points of data 50 years apart and put a line between them.

One major reason for higher IQ scores in the developing world over time is because of changes in the test itself.
Earlier versions of the test required some level of language proficiency to understand well, which accounted for the very extreme differences in early scores.
The modern test is considered to be almost entirely free of this.
If you see a graph with more data, there is usually a rise in IQ points after the test is revised and improved.

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>>38384444
quads confirm kek

stay BTFO cuckolds

>>38384457
>if the numbers on it are correct the average person is very mentally retarded.
they are

have you not seen the current state of the world?

the reason for higher IQ in the developed world is because the material conditions affect the outcome, hence the flynn effect

>>38384444
Your quads have just proved to me that hitler is lurking in this thread. praise kekistan and the spirit of the holy white skin.

>>38384327
>no such thing
"Race" is not a taxonomic term, it is a colloquial one.
There are obvious, visible, variations between people.
Our society groups them according to those visible differences.
There are conflict between those groups.

Please don't bog down the conversation with semitic semantics.

>>38384422

>no, they don't, or else we would know about them

We didn't know coelocanths still existed till they were found, but they did exist even when we didn't know about it.

>I don't know any taxonomist that claims coyote-wolf hybrids have completly decimated coyote and wolf population either

http://www.easterncoyoteresearch.com/downloads/GeneticsOfEasternCoywolfFinalInPrint.pdf

All the "coyotes" found were actually fertile, healthy mixed offspring of Canis latrans (coyote) and Canis lycaon (eastern wolf).

I suppose it's theoretically possible that there might be undiscovered, tiny populations of true coyotes and wolves in New England. But there's no proof they still exist and if they do they're in the minority. They will likely be absorbed into the Coywolf hybrid population.

>>38384422
>nope, you said it, things should go back to their place of origin :v)

KYS nigger lover!!

>>38384444
>anime

Shut the fuck up you fucking loser

>>38384481
>race is not a taxonomic term
so you accept race is not real, and that it is a buzzword used by people who have an irrational hatred towards certain fenotype?

>>38384478
>these are the people that call me autistic
lol

>>38384498
the difference is we simply do not see such populations even in areas where lions and tigers and other species live, we are not searching for new species, we are searching for an specific type of offsrping

it doesn't exist

>All the "coyotes" found were actually fertile, healthy mixed offspring of Canis latrans (coyote) and Canis lycaon (eastern wolf).
therefore the genetic variation does not account for a different specie/sub-specie

>>38384506
>>38384533
sperg more

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>>38384533
>ew anime
I know you're pretending to not be a chronic politically incorrect poster but you are one.

>>38384540
You're autistic

orignalsio

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>>38383345
Not true

Modern humans and Neanderthals regularly interbred and European-descendant peoples have like 10% neanderthal blood or some shit. neanderthals didn't even really die out, just interbred with us and became part of our species.

yet the neanderthal is a separate species of humans, despite only being distinguishable through phenotypical characteristics, build, and brain capacity.
Know what other humans we can breed with who we are distinguishable from via phenotypical characteristics and brain capacity?

>>38384551
>loser defends anime

color me shocked

>>38384540
>>these are the people that call me autistic
>lol
I was making fun of /pol/ you faggot.
Stop this friendly fire.

No one can tell you what makes a person white.

>>38384566
lmao the retards are eating their own

>>38384540

>the difference is we simply do not see such populations even in areas where lions and tigers and other species live, we are not searching for new species, we are searching for an specific type of offsrping

There's no evidence of any organized effort to find feral bengal cats. That's not a thing scientists are doing now, is it?

>therefore the genetic variation does not account for a different specie/sub-specie

So what you're saying is, the coyote and wolf are the same species, and every taxonomist who doesn't agree (which would be basically all of them) is wrong.

Look, dude.

The way you want to define "species" is not a definition that taxonomists consistently use. They don't have a consistent definition. The way they break down some creatures into species a and species b is different than the next group of taxonomists working on different "species" did.

The whole thing is incredibly subjective, the definitons aren't even clear. The whole thing isn't as neat as you or I would like it to be.

>>38384470
>they are
>have you not seen the current state of the world?
I mean like can't read or wipe your own ass retarded.

>the reason for higher IQ in the developed world is because the material conditions affect the outcome, hence the flynn effect
Yes, improved conditions is definitely another factor.
It doesn't account for all differences though.
Asian and European countries that have similar standards of living will still have different average IQ scores.
Even in the same country, in the same economic bracket, Asians score higher than whites, who score higher than blacks.

Similar to height, removing environmental barriers may improve the average height of a population, but it's not going to make a Vietnamese guy grow as tall as the Watusi.

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>>38384569
It's the HRT that makes a person white and male.

>>38384562

>yet the neanderthal is a separate species of humans

But "species" to begin with isn't a real thing. There is no consistently-applied definition of where one ends and the next one begins.

>bunch of virgin losers arguing about "superior race" instead of wiping the slobber from their mouth and getting a job

never fails to make me kek

>>38384588
It's almost like IQ measures submissive and betaness rather than intelligence.

>>38384540
>so you accept race is not real, and that it is a buzzword used by people who have an irrational hatred towards certain fenotype?
No, it's just not a taxonomic term, in our current system of classification.
The things it describes are real.
Yes, some people do use it in a hateful manner, but that doesn't mean it is a completely invalid concept.

>>38383257
why is this shit on R9K? take it to /pol/ faggot.

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Whites have such high IQ that they've got more sympathy for killer animals than their fellow humans.
Whites spend more money on pit bulls than they do on blacks.

>>38384610
>It's almost like IQ measures submissive and betaness rather than intelligence.
That's likely to have more to do with testosterone levels, which also vary quite a lot between the races.

>>38384633
>Whites spend more money on pit bulls than they do on blacks.
It's funny how people always make the same excuses for both.

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>>38384600
Sure. Taxonomy is largely arbitrary categorization based on objective observable reality, ostensibly based in organism's ancestry.

The question is can we say animals like most modern humans, and Australian aborigines (who have been genetically separate from h. sapiens for 50,000 years), are similar enough to be put in the same category?
and if so, why not other humans like neanderthals, whose differences with h. sapiens are along the same lines as those between h. sapiens and aborigines.

>>38384699
*50,000 years minimum, conservative estimation. believed it could be 10's of thousands more.

>>38383361
it most certainly is a human. doesn't mean its a h. sapiens though.

>>38384038
cherrypick examples and thus make a comparison null? not an argument.

blacks are >>>disproportionately<<< inferior to whites in many ways

>>38385016
also notice that the ugly white creature possesses similar features to the abbo in OP's picture, while your example of a black woman has a traditionally aryan facial structure. it's all about genetics.

>>38385081
>it's all about genetics.
of which there are distinct patterns of distribution amongst different races.

>>38385098
exactly. blacks with white genes and whites with black genes are simply exceptions.
and if it's implied that white features are generally more attractive, then the black with white features is of course more attractive than the vice versa

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>these are the same species
fucking sub-canines i swear

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What's the deal with abos?

Abos are pretty much prehistoric humans.
This got me thinking, what would happen if you took a Neanderthal man and put him in modern society?
Would he be able to learn how to speak? write?
Or would he be like a retarded child but with better survival instincts

>>38383755
if you're gonna post this in every thread like this you should make a better picture, the contrast is a lot larger in the OP

>>38383718
Outbreeding depression and studies have already confirmed miscegenation leads to more defective children.

>>38385868
Wtf is outbreeding depression?

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>>38383257

> these are the same species too

>>38387612
The fat white thing has some genetic disorder and is not a representative of the white race, while the nigger is clearly from north-eastern Africa - they're the most caucasoid of niggers.
They have very little in common with the congoid western sub-saharan niggers; the niggest of niggers.

The abbo in OP's pic looks like that because it's an abbo. They all look like that and shouldn't really be considered human at all, poor things.

get the fuck off here and take your bullshit to /pol/

>>38388131
>they all look like that

t. non Australian

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>>38383257
>these are the same species
dog edition

>>38383961
>hey don't look black either.
Kek everything about about that niggers features are black except for the lighter skin tone
Are you a retard?

They aren't one is human the other is sub-human

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>>38383257
Yes, of course, they're the same species. A Chihuahua and a German Shepard are the same species too. We can breed successfully with other races. Scientists aren't wrong when they claim we're the same species, they're only wrong when they claim there's no genetic difference between each race. All it shows is that each race hasn't completed the evolutionary process and evolved into distinct species yet; Interbreeding with other races will only set this back further. To mix with another race lower in the evolutionary scale is counterproductive and goes against all the work and perfection that is natural/sexual/artificial selection over the course of dozens of thousands of years.
Nordids should reproduce with nordids, alpines should reproduce with alpines, negroids should reproduce with negroids, and so on and so forth. Ignoring this means you're ignoring anthropology due to liberal agenda.

>>38383556
le intelligent dogs

they are trained monkeys. there is no such thing as animal intelligence outside of the great apes. do you even know how many animals even recognize themselves? dog intelligence is about as curious as a talking parrot.

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>>38388703
>they are trained monkeys. there is no such thing as animal intelligence outside of the great apes
Brainlets actually believe this

>>38388703
>dog intelligence is about as curious as a talking parrot.
Might want to look up Alex the African grey parrot, the only non-human animal to ever ask an existential question by asking what colour he was and learning he was grey. He was also estimated to have the intelligence of a human child. How does it feel being this dumb, anon?

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>>38383257
They can produce offspring so yes, they are the same species
If two human groups are seperated long enough and evolve indipendently to the point where one member of each of these groups can't produce offspring with the other anymore, we speak of a new species

>>38383754
Healthy offspring are the keywords.

>>38383755
You gotta get an old white lady

>>38383758
>muh based sport niggers
they have a lot of exercise while running away from the police, because they dindu nuffin
>culture
good kek

>>38388965

Well, different species hybridise all the time, for example grizzlies and polar bears. In many cases hybrid offspring are sterile, though.

>>38383931
Clint's son sure is a nearly perfect copy of himself. I bet he's proud and can see his younger self when he looks at him.

De Niro though, he really cucked himself into escape velocity.

>>38383810
it has higher increments because the values must increase to show all of the information.
GTFO back to 8th grade where you were you were supposed to learn this

>>38388965
>>38388499
Thank you for speaking the truth, lads

>>38384172
>implying every living thing isn't really just a single cell micro organism
Racism is over.

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>>38383892
>typing >>we wuz engineers n shit! is a fact

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this thread has been deemed shit, have some k-on to make it better

I was baffled when at a local museum I learned about a species of bird known as the sapsucker. It was until recently classified as a single species, as they looked similar and were capable of interbreeding. However, research revealed that they were actually four species which had been separated by the last ice age, which caused genetic divergence between them. Amazing that four separate species could emerge despite such a short time scale simply due to geographical differences.

>>38383755
lol they both look equally shitty. also do you *seriously* believe that blacks and whites are the same? or are you just trolling/a buttblasted black?

>>38383301
like negroes

>>38389517
lol the women in the OP look equally shitty. also, do you *seriously* believe that blacks and whites are the same? or are you just trolling/a buttblasted white?

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>>38389614
no. i dont think blacks and whites are the same at all

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>>38389781
tell ya whats not the same?

k-on