Psychological Issues #95

Hello again Nick, missed the thread yesterday somehow.

>>38365316
Whoops, put in the wrong tripcode. Hopefully I didn't set off any alarm. IT IS ME!

>>38365316

No prob. You and I talked more in one thread than most other regs in 10.

There were things I had to come back to but I don't recall what now. I need to get to the archives.

>>38365329

Too late, the mods are on their way.

>>38365354
>Talked more in one thread
Indeed, I think most other people don't show up until later in the day, so I am a weird outlier that gets to talk for hours.

Hopefully you can think of them. I always seem to have the pattern of starting these, then respond slower and slower until I am hours behind, only catching up when you leave.

I knew it. Hopefully I can get some trips or something to throw them off.

>>38365329

Found it:

>It is healthy Nick. It is freedom. Freedom to insult me. I never said to stop that. People stop insulting me, the world becomes a retarded hugbox. All I ask is for the same in return, the freedom to do my whims like your whims. Your whim is to call me a name, my whim is to be a bee. We disagree, but I feel you have a right, society confines me from having a right by giving me consequences. You don't get consequences for calling me a name, I get consequences for being a bee guy. That is the difference. That is why I am society's cuck.

>I ask for no boundaries to be put up. Boundaries, walls, do not solve problems. They only create because the individual has to bottle up issues. If everyone was free to do whatever, as long as it did not directly hurt another, we would live in a society with a lot less problems. But I am the bad guy for being immature. Not society for just saying a bee guy is not going to shoot up a school, inferring the difference, and moving on.

Boundaries, healthy ones, are required. It doesn't mean censorship, it doesn't mean a hugbox. I suspect you don't know what healthy boundaries are, for you and others, and this causes you so much confusion.

>>38365394
>Indeed, I think most other people don't show up until later in the day, so I am a weird outlier that gets to talk for hours.

Some people are here earlier, which is just later in the night for them. I'm on holidays for a while so that's why I get to be here so long.

Maybe we can try to keep things tighter between us no homo.

I wonder if they make videos that show functional families to people who never experienced them. If anybody knows anything about that...

>>38365416
"Healthy boundaries" don't make sense to me. They are limitations, they are breaking in fully being able to express oneself. An individual should seek to have as few limits as possible, for limits are something they cannot bear, which in turn is a weakness they need to snuff out.

Boundaries are not something to put up, all that will do is make it harder to communicate. The more we fear offending one another, fear saying something that will hurt another, the more we will end up losing our ability to even express ourselves accurately.

It is to me the ultimate form of censorship, one that starts with a word and ends up destroying ideas to the point that you, mentally, lose the ability to even express ideas. You lose the ability to know what to respond with because the response you have will not be accepted.

Think of it this way. You have a female friend. She is fine about most things, but doesn't feel comfortable with you talking about sex or her body. You will almost be drawn to the taboo as it is a topic you are prevented from doing, then shut down out of respect, resulting in a cycle which in turn results in the inability to even communicate with the friend.

>>38365231
https://pastebin.com/DxCQxgmp

References and archives up to thread 87.

>>38365427
Indeed, it helps that you get a vacation. I am naturally on this early, so it works out well in my favor to be able to get you for a good portion of the thread.

>>38365449
Wouldn't that be most families on TV? The best analogy to what I assume you mean is a functional family is the Mormon family from South Park. You know of course my belief that it is fiction, but if we are going the opposite of Malcolm and the Middle, that is what I got.

>>38365480
>"Healthy boundaries" don't make sense to me. They are limitations,

When capturing wild animals, typically young ones, a blanket is thrown over them. They are then held tightly. This makes them feel safe, like a fetus. When babies are born, and later, they flail around, legs and arms: they are looking for limits. This makes them feel safe, this is partly why you hold babies.

Imagine if I blindfolded you in your kitchen, then moved you to another place of your house. Then left you alone and told you the purpose of the game was to get out.

The first thing you'd do is to find a limit, like a wall, or a door, anything. Imagine if, as you walk towards what you think is a wall, you find nothing. You find that you can keep walking and walking, and no limit ever shows up. How would you feel? Safe? Limited? No, you'd panic and feel lost. "My house isn't this huge! Where am I?"

Limits are necessary for anything to exist. If your favourite cheese had no limits, the entire universe would be your favourite cheese. Shapes need limits, anything needs limits to exist. Limits aren't a bad thing.

>>38365549
>Limits are necessary for anything to exist. If your favourite cheese had no limits, the entire universe would be your favourite cheese.
The things said in this tread never cease to amaze me.

>>38365480
>they are breaking in fully being able to express oneself.

Without limits, you couldn't express yourself. You're confusing freedom with focus. Having a focus doesn't make you less creative. In fact, the more limits you have, the more you have to be creative to express yourself. This is what any art is: if musicians also had to paint for their songs, you'd have much less great music to listen to. This doesn't limit their expression, it focuses it.

> An individual should seek to have as few limits as possible,

So the obese man should seek to eat even more? But then he'll live less long, and less well. One thing you don't see here is that it's all a balance: some limits will push other limits. A limit on eating will push limits of motion and health. If you limit your shit-eating habits, you will push other limis. If you work out, you limit your time, but you'll push other limits.

You can't have it all. You can't eat 8000kcal a day and also limit the space you take up.

>>38365480
>Boundaries are not something to put up, all that will do is make it harder to communicate.

On the contrary, it will make it easier. If I know, from you, where your limits are, I can respect them. If I don't, I will not know where they are. This is why I tell you where my limits are. Did this make it difficult for you to communicate with me? No, it made it easier. Imagine playing any sports without limits, without lines. Would it be easier? No, people would ceaselessly argue that the ball was in our out. Imagine tennis without lines. It couldn't work. Communication is the same, respect is the same.

If you give a room to share for two people, which would work better, one where there's a clear line on the floor or one where there isn't?

Same thing.

>>38365480
>The more we fear offending one another, fear saying something that will hurt another,

You confuse everything. There are ways to say things.

>"You're a fucking cunt."
>"The way you behave is not OK."

Huge difference.

> the more we will end up losing our ability to even express ourselves accurately.

Absolutely not. I haven't allowed you to insult me once and you've never felt like you weren't accurate or free in what you wanted to say.

>It is to me the ultimate form of censorship, one that starts with a word and ends up destroying ideas to the point that you, mentally, lose the ability to even express ideas. You lose the ability to know what to respond with because the response you have will not be accepted.

This is nonsense. Me not calling you a piece of shit has no such effects.

>Think of it this way. You have a female friend. She is fine about most things, but doesn't feel comfortable with you talking about sex or her body. You will almost be drawn to the taboo as it is a topic you are prevented from doing, then shut down out of respect, resulting in a cycle which in turn results in the inability to even communicate with the friend.

Why on earth would I not be able to communicate with my female friend if she doesn't want me to talk about sex or her body (two topics that you obviously never discuss with a female friend, in case there was any doubt in your mind)?

I never discuss these things with my female friends, unless there's a reason to, and that was never a problem. It goes both ways, no female friend would easily discuss my body, or sex.

Here, I think you don't realise what you're dealing with, and can only see the "censorship/freedom" problem, when that is NOT the issue at all.

Focus on this one, don't necessarily argue everything I say, or we'll spend another ten hours doing this back and forth.

>>38365549
But at the same time limits confine us and compartmentalize us. We need to escape as many limits as possible if we are to transcend. The reason people panic is because they are not used to the lack of limits. This lack of limits can be problematic even because you don't know what to do.

But think of it this way Nick. That is exactly what is happening with my OCD. I am imposing limits upon myself to the point I am unhappy. Everyone else can play whatever games they want in whatever order they want, for me this causes a mental breakdown that at the same time makes me depressed with what I bother with to the point I end up avoiding it entirely. Why bother when I can't figure out this horrible Amiga game and just want to try Skyrim. Limits can make a person unhappy, especially when there are more limits than the average person, limits you can look around and see others are not confined by. If others could have the universe to taste and all I could taste was cheese, it would be a lot more miserable.

Limits are horrible Nick. If I had less, I would have less problems. Sure, I wouldn't know what to do with my newfound empty void, but it would be a lot better than being confined in a small box. Society may be in a bigger box, but the same rules apply, they don't have the perspective of a boundless world and thus fear it, when it is the best thing ever.

Limits are inhibiting freedoms Nick. Boundaries prevent us from being free. Only through knocking down boundaries can we have mental freedom.

>>38365493

Pretty cool!

88 - https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/38230437/
89 - https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/38234076/
90 - https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/38249995/
91 - https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/38279739/
92 - https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/38297476/
93 - https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/38320670/
94 - https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/38345791/

Here's the rest.

>>38365522
>the Mormon family from South Park.

I saw this a long time ago, but it's possible. Functional families don't make for great stories, because there are no problems.

>>38365586

And the best is that this comes straight from Aristotle. I remembered some text he wrote when I was in High School (now it sounds like I went to High School wit Aristotle, and called him Aris for short), about form and substance. Any substance needs a form to exist, or universal favourite cheese. He never mentioned cheese, of course. I'm not sure why my idea of substance is cheese.

>>38365586
Hey Dan

>>38365591
>This doesn't limit their expression, it focuses it
If musicians had to also paint their songs, we would have even greater works filled with greater complexity. I would be happy if musicians had to paint songs Nick, because the lack of limits also means you would have the freedom to choose not to do such. We would have a choice where right now we have those that can only sing and not paint, or paint and not sing. We can't have both, which we can without limits.

>So the obese man should seek to eat even more
That is a limit, a constraint, put upon us by nature. If it didn't exist, we could be happier.

>You can't have it all
Due to a limitation of time Nick. Once again, the problem here is due to an overlying limit that we cannot eliminate. So we need to play by the limits imposed upon by us. This is one of the reasons life is terrible, we would be much happier if there were indeed zero limits.

>>38365684

https://pastebin.com/9dPf9n19
Use this for tomorrow's OP maybe

>>38365680

I'll try not to quote every bit and a make a comment on each, to make things less fastidious.

Coats, I'm talking about limits you don't impose on yourself unwillingly, you are talking about OCD limits, which are always negative and unncessary, by definition. There's a huge difference.

Respect and OCD aren't the same. Limits on insults mean respect; limits in your daily life mean mental illness. This is not comparable. Someone who feels compelled to wash their hands 80 times a day is not comparable to two people agreeing on mutual respect. The first one gets hurt and wastes time and feels bad; the latter two enjoy a nice conversation.

You have to look at what the limits produce. As Christ said, judge them by their fruit. What comes of it?

Does a new sport come of them?

Do injuries come of them?

Does wasted time come of them?

Limits can be both good and bad, it depends on the limit in question. Surely you like that people can't just invade your bed and snuggle you and sleep there. Surely you like having walls around you when you take a shit, right?

>>38365680
>Boundaries prevent us from being free. Only through knocking down boundaries can we have mental freedom.

Imagine if your molecules thought that way. You'd fall apart instantly and so would your freedom.

Think of Minecraft and compare creative mode with survival mode. I never could like creative mode because it was too free, and less fun. It's great to create things, hence the name, but I enjoyed building things much more if I had to work for my blocks, survive on food, and all the rest of it. I didn't feel like my freedom was limited, despite more limits and restrains, since going beyond these limits, and finding smart ways to do so was more fun than having no limits to begin with.

Think of any games: whatever is readily available to you awards you less joy than something hard to get. We value expensive things more than we value cheap ones, even when they're the same.

I once bought a Cure album for 5 bucks, and I was never able to think it was a normal album; in my mind, it forever remained "the cheap Cure album".

>>38365756
>If musicians had to also paint their songs, we would have even greater works filled with greater complexity.

No, you'd have less music, because that restraint brings nothing to the song. It's not the same medium. It's be a completely useless limit. See, you're arguing for more limits now! Unproductive ones, at that. Musicians who also paint may use their art for their music, but it's only good if it's by choice. Kurt Cobain did this for the Incesticide album, and that's fine, but as soon as you make it a rule, it does more harm than good, which is why no such rule exists, it doesn't make sense. You'd have to have an emperor or dictactor to enforce such a rule, because everyone would see how meaningless and counter-productive it is.

>We can't have both, which we can without limits.

We can have both. It's called freedom: people can chose to do what they want. They can do both, or only the one they like. Why would you want to limit them?

See how your ideas of what limits are can be turned around? What some limits are to you, they are freedom to others. Freedom not to have to paint if you just want to sing.

>>38365614
>Did this make it difficult for you to communicate with me?
Actually it does. It makes me paranoid of saying the wrong thing and losing a willing ear. Your limits are a strain on me that make me have to monitor myself and panic that I am missing things.

>Imagine playing any sports without limits
This is why sports are dull actually. Sports are confined and inhibited by boundaries. It is mankind putting limitations upon himself in a way that seems quite dull. Perhaps some like limits, I don't. That is where the bee/wasp analogy came in. Bees stay in the hive, they stay where it is comfortable. Wasps roam and have less limits. Many prefer the bee route of limits, to stay where it is safe, while I view it as monotonous and a great way to make oneself miserable. You want me to be depressed? Impose limits on me.

>Communication is the same, respect is the same
Which is why I fail in these. I don't like sports for this exact reason. When I speak, I speak from one who does not seek to limit himself and wishes others to not be limited. I seek no boundaries.

>If you give a room to share for two people
The main reason to do that would be to define what each owns due to the limitations of society. It is yet another sport, another game of ball. I must play because not playing means everyone else is at an advantage.

>>38365756
>That is a limit, a constraint, put upon us by nature. If it didn't exist, we could be happier.

You mean eating without getting bigger? For the sake of sanity, we are not going to complain about how reality works, or it will never end. There are limits that won't make you happy and don't necessarily seem to help, such as, you won't live forever. Tough shit but there's no reason to argue that. When there's no solution, there's no problem either. It just is that way.

>>38365756
>Due to a limitation of time Nick.

No, due to the very nature of "limits". The English saying "You can't have your cake and eat it too," is perfect for that. If you eat it, you don't have it anymore. You can't have both and time has nothing to do with it.

>So we need to play by the limits imposed upon by us. This is one of the reasons life is terrible, we would be much happier if there were indeed zero limits.

You can play well and win, you know? Life need not be terrible. You just need to play better. Git gud.

Without limits we wouldn't exist.

>>38365763

Bookmarked. Thanks!

>>38365858
>Actually it does. It makes me paranoid of saying the wrong thing and losing a willing ear.

I laughed. At this point, you should be reassured because despite pissing me off a whole lot, I'm still here. Ask Dan, it's virtually impossible to lose me. Even my parents still have access to me (strictly via written words), so worry not. The reason I do this is because I can take it all. Here, the problem is not limits, but fear.

And you are right to fear such a thing in most contexts with most people, because you CAN go too far, and people will not always forgive you, especially if they DON'T understand. You only have to realise that they don't understand.

it's as if you used the wrong word in a different language, and while you wanted to say, "May I sit with you?" you actually said, "May I fuck your sister?" You'd understand why the person would think you're a threat.

>Your limits are a strain on me that make me have to monitor myself and panic that I am missing things.

That's why I always "correct" you, as training so you can do better in society. Errors won't matter with me, but they will with others. Imagine it's like martial arts training, but instead of swords, we use bamboo sticks.

>>38365858
>This is why sports are dull actually.

If sports were dull, it wouldn't be so popular. Coats, what you think isn't objective reality every time. I like chess a lot, for instance, and without limits and rules, chess would fucking suck, it wouldn't even be chess.

Great quote from I forget who, but it's from linguistics, might be Chomsky: people play chess when they respect the rules of chess; as soon as they stop using those rules, they no longer play chess.

Cue to the idea that limits are required to exist.

>Sports are confined and inhibited by boundaries.

No, it's focused, more intense. Sports change over time, sometimes, and the new rules always seek to improve the game. Football (what you call "soccer") had a rule that the goalie was allowed to take into his hands a ball given to him by his own team mates. This was abused to lose time, which a winning team wanted to do. Players would pass the ball to their goalie, and he'd just fuck around a bit. They changed the rule and now the goalie can't take such a ball into his hands anymore. The new limit makes the games snappier and removed an exploit.

You play video games, you certainly realise how limits MAKE the game. Imagine death match on an infinite map? You'd never see anyone ever. Boring, dull.

>>38365858
>Perhaps some like limits, I don't.

How about the following ones (and yes, I want a direct answer for each):

- the floor
- the walls in your bathroom
- whatever keeps you from the NEETs in your place
- your clothes
- doors
- your roof

>>38365674
>Ways to say things
If you feel the former, why say the latter? The former says you hate the individual you are talking to, that you despise everything about them. The latter says you dislike their mannerisms. Say which you feel.

>I haven't allowed you to insult me once
It simply has never been a wish of mine to insult you. Had it have been, I would be confined and limited. If I was pushed to the point I wished to insult, I don't think I would care about limitations.

>Me not calling you a piece of shit has no such effects
When that is all you believe, all you can personally feel, and it is what you wish to express it does indeed. You felt it necessary to say it, so it had to be said. This is why I often appreciate when people get mad, they get more honest and stop being so limited. They speak how much they actually view me. Positives and respect are just to be nice, they are inhibitors we accept to receive benefits in the form of the other individual. But if both could accept no limits, the world would be a better place.

>I never discuss these things
If it becomes the whim you thought of, it becomes necessary to ask for the lack of other questions presenting themselves. We inhibit ourselves due to respect, which makes us miserable in turn, or at least makes me miserable. I don't want you to get offended and say we need limits. I want the freedom for anything to pass freely.

Sex and the human body are things everyone has. Why can we not talk about them when it is something everyone can relate to on some primal level? It is foolish to have this limit.

>Can only see the "Censorship/freedom" problem
Indeed, I can't see anything else here.

>Don't necessarily argue everything I say
Another limit which in turn makes me seek to avoid arguing which in turn means I have less to say and we get less communication. The only reason it has yet to happen is because I have yet to not follow this point.

>>38365691
>No problems
But that is a problem in itself. People have problems with one another, the true matter is if they can be strong through the hard times or not.

>>38365858
>When I speak, I speak from one who does not seek to limit himself and wishes others to not be limited. I seek no boundaries.

By doing so, you actually impose a very brutal limit on whoever you speak to: you don't allow them to exist.

That is the most violence you can impose on a person short of extreme verbal abuse or physical abuse, but even those too often boil down to refusing a person's existence.

Accepting someone's existence means giving value to what THEY feel and think. If you exclude this, you impose a limit on them. If you act like what they feel/think doesn't matter, then that limit removes almost everything from them. Doing so makes it meaningless for them to continue communicating, because you've already stated that they don't exist.

You should seek boundaries, yours and theirs. That way you know what's OK and what isn't, instead of panicking all the time because you have no clue what's appropriate and what isn't.

What I'm writing to you right now is key to you improving your communication skills, and life, so take your time, but do integrate all I'm saying.

>>38365858
>The main reason to do that would be to define what each owns due to the limitations of society.

Society doesn't give a rat's ass what two brothers share or don't share in a room. I have two younger brothers, I speak from experience. It's strictly between the people involved. Society has nothing to do with it.

>>38366000
>If you feel the former, why say the latter? The former says you hate the individual you are talking to, that you despise everything about them. The latter says you dislike their mannerisms. Say which you feel.

You think if I insult you it automatically means I hate you? You'd be wrong. You and Dan get copiously insulted because I get angry that you refuse to see the obvious (to me) way out of your misery. And why does that make me angry? Because I care.

I couldn't use insults if I thought you took it in a different way, which is partly why I completely stopped. Dan still gets it because he never reacts negatively to my insults, he probably (I hope) understand that I'm just getting furious that he refuses my help.

Talking is more than just saying how you feel, Coats, you aren't a silly animal. Human communication is way more complicated.

>>38366000
>It simply has never been a wish of mine to insult you.

Despite that, you have. See? You act like people can only say what they mean, and misunderstandings never happen, or that you always know 100% what you're doing when you act and speak, but you don't. Proof is that you've insulted me a few times, and I never allowed it, but you did it, without even realising that you did. This, not society, is the issue here.

>>38366000
>Positives and respect are just to be nice, they are inhibitors we accept to receive benefits in the form of the other individual.

Sometimes you really do speak like a little child. The reason why people show respect, ultimately, is so nobody gets killed. In most languages, whenever two people meet, there's always a very ritualised moment. In English, it's often:

"Hello, how are you?"
"I'm good and you?"

And this is virtually always the same damn exact thing. It's not for nothing. It is a ritual and its purpose is to establish that everything is OK. It's called the phatic function if memory serves. Not doing it sends a signal that something is wrong.

Almost everything is communication, you can't suddenly decide that only what you think and say is. You don't even know what you say and do sometimes, and you get surprised by people's reactions, and then you modelise the whole thing as a martyr syndrome, where people persecute you while you dindu nuffin.

Limits are essential to human communication, in part because humans can be dangerous and we evolved to face danger, and sense it.

>>38366078
>You and Dan get copiously insulted because I get angry that you refuse to see the obvious (to me) way out of your misery.
The main point is that taking this way out of our misery is not that easy. It requires accepting some things and letting go of others. Sure, the way is obvious, but to walk it you have to wear a dunce hat and shout "I'm a gaylord" all the way.

Hey Nick,
Missed you yesterday; I guess I'm feeling "better" than I was but meh. For reference
>>38353397
Sedative sleep is unsatisfying and short, and I remain neither a danger to myself nor others, but everything feels like horrible shattering. I can't believe existing is supposed to feel remotely like this. The competing urges to just die already, or find a way to do absolutely anything at all that doesn't make me feel sick to be alive, are maddening. I get nowhere, but it just never stops.
It's like an intrusive thought that isn't even a thought. I don't want to erase my life, but I'm off to a good start, and it seems way easier and safer than whatever it is that I apparently can't get a grip on.
I need help, or am beyond help, either way I wouldn't know how to start or describe what's wrong except that I dread most every event of every day and I can't see anything but the same or worse on the horizon.
I'm never going to be acceptable to the rest of them on terms that enable my sanity and I'm pretty sure that's the unpardonable sin.
I admire all of you who have the constitution to function with the myriad nutty neuroses going on but I can't imagine why you want to.
I'm significantly below-average as a human part of the larger whole and have no reason to play in leagues that I don't have the skill-set for.
What's the best use of whatever limited effort I have left, in your opinion?
I'm so tired of whining but I'm pretty firmly locked into my took-my-ball-and-am-waiting-to-die outlook, it just gets so boring.
I don't know if any modicum of passion can return to life when you've turtled for as long as I have. I decided I was done long before I knew what that would mean. To quote a two-time losing presidential candidate: really, at this point, what difference does it make?

>>38366000
>We inhibit ourselves due to respect, which makes us miserable in turn, or at least makes me miserable.

Just you. If you were a normal person, you'd not actually want to discuss sex with a female friend. It'd make you embarrassed. Even with a male friend, only closet homos do that.

>I don't want you to get offended and say we need limits. I want the freedom for anything to pass freely.

But you demanding that freedom cancels other people's rights. You remove their freedom by imposing yours, and most people will not accept that; hell, YOU won't accept that! You refuse to have your freedom removed by others, yet you seek to remove others' freedom so you can have things your way. Do you see the problem?

You don't understand: discussing sex was even off limits with women I've HAD sex with! Can you even conceive of anything like that?

>>38366000
>Sex and the human body are things everyone has.

Yes, but you're not a fucking doctor, Coats, when you speak to someone, there are more things involced then biological mechanisms.

>Why can we not talk about them when it is something everyone can relate to on some primal level? It is foolish to have this limit.

It's PRECISELY because it exists on a primal level that you can't just talk about it like that, silly Coats. And the reason people don't just casually talk about it is... BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT!

Important things require special treatment. You don't propose to a woman the same way you ask her abou the weather, right? Same thing here. Some topics are reserved for when you're more intimate. They need careful approach, so everyone is respected.

What you think of as limits aren't limits. You can do anything with a person provided you RESPECT them, meaning, you ALLOW them to exist and have their own freedom too. You can't just go wherever you want, on your own. There's a path. There are steps to go through, together.

It's fucking weird how you can't seem to appreciate "limits" in daily life but somehow fucking impose yourself retarded ass limits for fucking nothing. How do you goddam make sense of this shit, Coats?

How do you go, "Alice doesn't want to talk about sex with me, what a cunt! But let's go fucking play Final Fantasy 1 through 10 so I feel allowed to play 11."

What the fuck?

I wonder if your limit dicksucking doesn't come from the fact that you can't handle unwritten rules out there. You're going to make your own set of bullshit rules to live by. Then complain about limits, when the ones you make up are much worse and serve no purpose.

How do you explain yourself here?

>>38366000
>Indeed, I can't see anything else here.

You're missing the most important part. Communication isn't just exchanging information. It's doing something together. It's existing to someone else and acknowledging someone else's existence.

>Another limit which in turn makes me seek to avoid arguing which in turn means I have less to say and we get less communication.

As you found out the other day, being two hours late on the conversation was not "freedom".

What you think is a limit will give you more freedom.

>>38366148

And if you really want out, you'll do all of that.

>>38366277
Only a retard would want out under these conditions.

>>38366153
>I can't believe existing is supposed to feel remotely like this

It's not. What you're feeling is basically your body and mind telling you, "This isn't right; fuck outta here."

>I need help, or am beyond help,

Not beyond help. Trust me.

I've read both posts and thought a lot.

Let's be practical first: do you have insurance?

MESSAGE TO COATS

Coats, mah boy, try spending more time reading what I'm writing to you and less time trying to go against it. Write your questions down somewhere and ask me later, but do not try to argue today, I don't think I'll have time for it this time. Also, remember that the intent here is for you to learn how things actually work with people. I understand how you function, how you think, enough to help.

You can explain how you think, though, that'll be more productive than arguing. Arguing was good, but as we saw last time, when it goes wrong for you, you resort to illogical and untrue points that I can only call core beliefs.

You'll complain that this is a limit, but it'll be efficient.

>>38366283
>Only a retard would want out under these conditions.

Really? I'm not sure I can take both you and Coats TOGETHER.

Suppose you're in a house on fire. You can only escape by putting on some gaylord costume while shouting "I AM DAN AND I LOVE DICK." Do you really stay inside?

Besides, if I asked you as a dare, you'd probably do it for keks.

MESSAGE TO COATS

You may want to post in smaller chunks, too, so I get your words more regularly, instead of giant bits all at once.

>>38366385
Let's leave the metaphores.

Yesterday I went to the supermarket. A different one than where I usually go, one of the cheap ones. It was incredible seeing all these people. They were on average very ugly, fat, most men were short. Then I compared it to the people I see at work, even from the other companies. Everybody is attractive, most men are taller than me. It's so fucking hillarious just how much the world is partitioned, how inferior people end up with inferior lives and superior people end up with superior life. If it was up to hard work at all, the difference wouldn't be this goddamn huge. The pattern wouldn't be this fucking obvious.

If I have to accept this, I'd rather stay in the burning house and wait for me to burn to death. I'd like to believe what you're saying. I really would, but the real world just doesn't confirm it.

Early thread today.

>>38366472

I wonder how much confirmation bias is at work here. I shop in various supermarkets, the local one and Lidl and Aldi, the German colonists.

I never saw any such difference. Besides, and focus on this: even wealthy people shop in cheaper supermarkets. So your idea that all the little ugly people shop in cheap shops while the master race shops in expensive ones (like you do normally), that doesn't really work out. If they were that smart, they might shop where things are cheaper, but then again, maybe they like certain items from one shop and others from other shops.

You simplify everything so much it's not even funny.

>If I have to accept this, I'd rather stay in the burning house and wait for me to burn to death

If you have to accept this? Wake the fuck up? You're one of the tall motherfuckers who shop At Master Race's, and you look down on the ugly little idiots who shop in the untermensch department of your area, remember?

You pretentious fucker, you don't even realise where you stand in your confirmation bias.

Not nick but i have a question for coats.

Every time you post on 4chan, you are limited to typing into a box. You are limited into pressing the 'post' button only after you pass the captcha limit. You are also only limited to communicate in non ascii characters. Every reply is given a number. Any quotes you can make must have two >> and the number of the post you quote.

How does this make you feel

>>38366569
Also you can only post to 4chan or specifically r9k if you agree to the limitation that this is only possible if the address bar states boards.4chan.org/r9k

How does this make you feel?

>>38365781
>I'll try not to quote every bit
Which means your thoughts aren't expressed clearly. This is another limitation. Is fastidious not beneficial for acquiring further information?

>There's a huge difference
Why? You talked about the limits of a wall, of solid materials, that is not a willing limit.

>The latter two enjoys a nice conversation
That is the problem Nick. I get hurt, waste time, and feel bad with the latter. That is exactly how I describe the average conversation. This is why 4chan is great, because I don't need limits. If I have limits, we may look like we are getting along, but underneath I am breaking down and feeling miserable.

>You have to look at what the limits produce
At the end of the day, OCD produces knowledge. At the end of the day, conversation produces knowledge. Both cause the same result. Both can result in stress due to limitations.

>Does a new sport come of them
And what purpose does sports with limitations have? Why not have sports created freely without limits?

>Do injuries come of them?
This is simple risk assessment. Are the injuries worth the entertainment? Are the injuries an important part of what I am doing?

>Does wasted time come of them?
Everything is in essence wasted time. Every second that passes is another wasted. It does not matter if there was an activity in that space or not.

>Surely you like that people can't just invade your bed
Since the time you mentioned me getting raped, I have been thinking about this. I actually would not mind the company, isolation is quite rough.

>Surely you like having walls around you
If it was socially acceptable and I wasn't limited, I would not. I would be happy someone put some importance to me, for with these limits I feel a lack of importance. I would have eyes watching me, a pervert is a compliment on the basis that you aroused them and thus had importance to someone. You benefit them with zero deterrent to yourself. It is selfless.

>>38366569

Ah! Excellent. Very good examples.

>>38366562
>You simplify everything so much it's not even funny.
Okay, another exercise. Try paying attention to the cars, are the people in expensive cars on average more ugly or more attractive?

Or another one. Let's say you see a group of young people. Three guys and one woman. Who is the woman talking to? Obviously the tallest and the most attractive one.

I know you want to deny it, but this pattern is obvious EVERYWHERE around us. You just have to see it without blindly ignoring it.

>You're one of the tall motherfuckers who shop At Master Race's, and you look down on the ugly little idiots who shop in the untermensch department of your area, remember?
Firstly, I'm not tall. 5'10" might be considered tall according to your italian standards, but it's not. You will obviously talk about average, but what makes you think average is acceptable? Even if you are average, it doesn't mean your tall. Average != good.

Also I don't look down on these people. I stated the fact that there were many ugly and short people, that's all.

>>38366629
There are definitely short and ugly people in fancy pinky-raising supermarkets

You're just having selective memory and selective perception

>>38366595
>Which means your thoughts aren't expressed clearly.

My thoughts are expressed clearly if I word them well enough, and I do believe I am doing a fine job of that. I may not comment everything, but the part I comment on is expressed well.

You can't have everything: either I comment on everything and communication suffers, or I don't and it gets focused.

> Is fastidious not beneficial for acquiring further information?

No, because we go round and round and so far, not much improvement was made. I don't think you've changed your way of thinking much in the past few days.

>Why? You talked about the limits of a wall, of solid materials, that is not a willing limit.

The limits of other people aren't "willing" limits either, since you don't choose them, just like a wall. Someone chose to build that wall there and someone else chose to build it for money. The universe exists according to a will (arguably); it's all willed limits.

>but underneath I am breaking down and feeling miserable.

Then you are not expressing yourself clearly and not showing your boundaries. If our exchange makes you feel bad, you must tell me so we can adapt.

There may be discomfort at times because you have to unlearn a lot and learn new things. That's normal, but it's related to the subject matter, not to the way we talk.

>>38366595
>At the end of the day, OCD produces knowledge.

What kind of knowledge do you get from washing your hands 500 times a day?

Better off reading books for that time. You'll get more knowledge.

>>38366595
>And what purpose does sports with limitations have? Why not have sports created freely without limits?

Because they can't exist without limits. Just fucking try with any sports of your choice. Choose one, and I'll "free" it and you'll see what happens.

>>38365806
>Imagine if your molecules thought that way
Perhaps they would be better. It is part of the rules nature has imposed on us.

>Creative mode/survival mode
Never touched creative mode because it wasn't what was in the alpha, only prior to the alpha when most people didn't get to play it, and thus something that I feel wasn't official until later. Couldn't tell you a single thing about what creative mode was about.

>Whatever is readily available to you
Simply becomes a thing acquired and thus you hunt for the next. Remember this also, without limits you can create limits that are beneficial to the self if you so desire. It is the best of both worlds, compared to limits which can never be removed. This is why it is great when a game comes with an editor that lets you break the world, to get rid of its limits, then recreate it in your own way. Limits are definitions, but you must start every blank with no-limits or be caught by monotony. It must also benefit the individual to have this limit and be a limit one knows they can easily break if so inclined.

>The cheap Cure album
To me, I would be happy to have acquired an album for cheap. The cost didn't matter, original or adjusted, the quality of the work within is all that matters. Why would I want to pay more for the same item?

>>38366595
>I actually would not mind the company, isolation is quite rough.

Then why don't you go sleep with your cousins? See? It's not that simple. Getting raped by your NEETs would not be nice, now would it? I can't believe the examples I have to use to make you understand that getting raped is no bueno.

>>38366595
>If it was socially acceptable and I wasn't limited, I would not. I would be happy someone put some importance to me, for with these limits I feel a lack of importance. I would have eyes watching me, a pervert is a compliment on the basis that you aroused them and thus had importance to someone. You benefit them with zero deterrent to yourself. It is selfless.

So you would take a dump in front of me if you could?

As to perverts, you're wrong, again, if you think it means you have "importance" to them. Enjoying having importance to others is not selfless, but then again, nothing is, which is fine.

>>38366629
>Try paying attention to the cars, are the people in expensive cars on average more ugly or more attractive?

1. never noticed a pattern there; I've seen everything; more expensive cars usually are driven by older people

2. you can get luxury cars on lease; even big cars can be obtained by people with modest salaries; I own my car, which is a small Japanese lady with a very short stalling threshold

>Three guys and one woman. Who is the woman talking to? Obviously the tallest and the most attractive one.

That's not true either. Dude, you're doing confirmation bias out the ass. You only register events when they fit your model, and whenever they don't, you assume it's a fluke and doesn't count.

The woman is talking to whoever speaks to her as well. Some women will avoid talking to the one they like best because:

1. tsundere
2. too shy

So even that example makes little sense. The women who wanted my dick the most weren't the ones that talked to me the most.

>I know you want to deny it, but this pattern is obvious EVERYWHERE around us.

Only in your sick mind, my friend. It's not that I want to deny it, it's that it ain't true.

> You just have to see it without blindly ignoring it.

Considering I have put my penis inside women, I don't think I'm blindly ignoring anything here.

>>38366629
>Firstly, I'm not tall. 5'10" might be considered tall according to your italian standards, but it's not.

I don't use Italian standards, Italian people tend to be short. You're tall, we've already discussed this shit a million times.

>Also I don't look down on these people. I stated the fact that there were many ugly and short people, that's all.

You act like short and ugly people are worth less than others who are tall and handsome, so yes, you look down on them.

>>38365841
>That restraint brings nothing to the song
In some cases it would. Those are the ones that should paint. When NIN made Year Zero, they made an entire alternate reality game to go with it. As seen, artists doing more than singing can be beneficial to the art as a whole to some individuals, depending on how much you were interested in the mediums used.

>You're arguing for more limits now
I am arguing that musicians that feel a compelling need to paint their songs do such. That simple. Those that don't, don't, those that do, do. This was the definition I gave, I said specifically that musicians didn't have to do such.

>Which is why no such rule exists
Now you are arguing what I am arguing. We are arguing about the same thing. Rules inhibit, don't make sense, and do more harm than good. Unless the rules are simply done for the benefit of the individual and only for the time they deem it beneficial, the removal of which breaks the rule in turn. That is the true meaning of chaos, the creation and removal of laws and rules with no consistency beyond what benefits the individual in question, which in turn could be argued is not a law based on its lack of consistency to others.

>We can have both. It's called freedom
Exactly. By trying to counter me you see exactly what I am trying to argue. This is freedom Nick. This is what I ask for.

>What some limits to you, they are freedoms to others
The problem is their lack of willingness to break them when it does not benefit them, or their altruism to benefit the group. When you start inhibiting your freedom for another person by imposing limits, when you start being unable to break limits yourself, that is when the problem occurs. No longer is it a destruction and creation of limits, just hard walls you will hit your head upon in frustration.

>>38366690
>It is part of the rules nature has imposed on us.

No, nature doesn't have to do with molecules. If you had said physics, sure, but even that isn't completely true. Physics is a scientific field of study, it doesn't tell things what to do, it describes what happens. Ultimately, you'll be reduced to "God imposed this on us."

Now it's going to be like Dan and genetics. Mostly an excuse. Yes, there are things we don't choose. Move on, because there's nothing more to do there.

>Never touched creative mode because it wasn't what was in the alpha,

I think creative mode existed long before anything else.

>Couldn't tell you a single thing about what creative mode was about.

You can fly, you don't have to feed or drink, no monsters, you can never die, you can choose to have day only, etc. Basically everything that makes the game fun.

Imagine if you remove all enemies from games. How would the game be? More fun? Damn those dull limitations known as enemies and obstacles!

If you were a game designer, with your beliefs, Super Mario would be an Italian plumber running straight for 45 minutes and reaching the Princess, who is not in another castle, but right here.

Nobody would like your game, Coats. You didn't put any limits, you didn't make it fun.

>>38366588
>>38366569
PIz respondos

>>38366690
>o me, I would be happy to have acquired an album for cheap.

I was.

>The cost didn't matter, original or adjusted, the quality of the work within is all that matters.

Of course, it still remains that it influenced my thinking, no matter how irrational. The mind has countless ways of fucking you over with like that. There's a great book about it called "You Are not so Smart".

>>38365862
>Tough shit but there's no reason to argue that. When there's no solution, there's no problem either
Exactly the problem Nick. I cannot get over the fact that it is a problem, regardless of a lack of solutions, and hope blindly for a solution to present itself. What do you think I have been doing with myself? All my problems have a lack of solutions, I admit this, but I still complain regardless because they are bothersome to me. This is because, as I said before, I am a weakling that cannot handle the simplest things that everyone else can.

>You can't have both and time has nothing to do with it
Limits have everything to do with it. The limitations imposed by nature, by society, by family, by everyone you meet... it never ends. Everyone wants you to compound more limits on a person who loathes limits and hates the many I already have to deal with.

>Git gud
I am too retarded for that. I have zero skills. I can play, but I am incompetent and lack the retention to ever get better. It is easy to say get gud by someone who is actually capable of improving, I am a literal retard, I can't improve even if I want to.

>Without limits we wouldn't exist
Limits that are beneficial to the self are good as long as you can break them. As long as you can kill yourself at any time, existence is tolerable.

>>38366800
>When NIN made Year Zero, they made an entire alternate reality game to go with it.

By choice. Not by obligation. If Trent was under obligation to do that, he'd change record company very quickly.

>I am arguing that musicians that feel a compelling need to paint their songs do such. That simple.

No, that's not what we were saying. You keep changing paremeters during the argument. Obviously, every artist can do anything he wants, which is why this isn't the same. You said it'd be better if musicians also had to paint. Completely different.

>Those that don't, don't, those that do, do. This was the definition I gave, I said specifically that musicians didn't have to do such.

No, because that definition is just reality.

>>38366657
There is much less of them. That is my point.

>>38366759
>1. never noticed a pattern there; I've seen everything; more expensive cars usually are driven by older people
Really? I find that very hard to believe. Yeah the leases make a huge part of it. I think that majority of the nice cars that average people drive are actually company cars that they can use. Still when you see someone driving a new mercedes, it's likely gonna be someone attractive.

>ou only register events when they fit your model, and whenever they don't, you assume it's a fluke and doesn't count.
It's because of the numbers. I don't see many flukes. I do see some, obviously.

>Considering I have put my penis inside women, I don't think I'm blindly ignoring anything here.
That's the point exactly, many people who are content and valued ignore this to be happy.

>>38366774
>You're tall, we've already discussed this shit a million times.
I have NEVER in my life been called tall by anyone. I have been called short plenty of times.

>You act like short and ugly people are worth less than others who are tall and handsome, so yes, you look down on them.
Well society looks down on them. If there is a correlation between looks, height and earnings, it must be that way.

>>38366800
>Rules inhibit, don't make sense, and do more harm than good.

I give up. I have shown you many examples of how rules make things exist (like chess) and how, without them, chess couldn't exist, or any sports, or even video games.

You haven't given me a single counter example for any of this. Until you do, I declare a moratorium on that topic. I'm not spending 15 hours repeating the same shit from 50 different angles just so you can pretend not to understand.

>>38366800
>The problem is their lack of willingness to break them when it does not benefit them

You mean like your OCD limits which don't benefit you either? Projecting, my boy?

>>38366800
>that is when the problem occurs.

Then how come problems occur for you much more often than for other people? You are wrong.

>>38366841

He is going to need a lot of time. Last thread he was in, he was two hours behind. I type fast, like the wind, who types really fast.

>>38366882
>I cannot get over the fact that it is a problem, regardless of a lack of solutions, and hope blindly for a solution to present itself

Then you and Dan really need to address that issue together.

How do I make you two understand that some things are NOT solvable? Some things are a way and that's it. Nothing to do. You can spend your life moaning over it and it won't fucking change.

Half-Life 3 will never exist, deal with it! Some things just can't happen.

>>38365930
>I can take it all
Yet you have warned me at several points to stop X or you will forsake me.

>You only have to realize that they don't understand
We need to make people less ignorant in that case. Perhaps it is because they are limited in their views. That at least you can see as being negative.

>You'd understand why the person would think you're a threat
You simply say what you feel from the heart. If you want to have sex with someone's sister, say such. It should be the sister anyway that chooses for her own benefit. this guy should have zero choice in the matter. As for being in a different language, how do I communicate at all if we speak too languages? What else can I do beyond say what I say and hope they understand? Cease communication entirely? That is the only other option.

>Imagine it's like martial arts training
You know, it is much like that. They threaten to throw me out of the dojo for my incompetence as well.

>Training to do better in society
Is it working? I have zero idea.

>>38366882
>All my problems have a lack of solutions, I admit this, but I still complain regardless because they are bothersome to me.

What's the benefit of this? Nothing.

>This is because, as I said before, I am a weakling that cannot handle the simplest things that everyone else can.

No, it's because you're stubborn and refuses to consider that reality isn't how you see it, even when I spend hours and hours telling you.

Sometimes I think I should just fucking kidnap your ass and take you around, with a ballgag so you can't say anything, and an earpiece, so I can talk to you constantly no matter where you are.

You know what they say about having one mouth but two ears?

>>38366964
>Half-Life 3 will never exist, deal with it! Some things just can't happen.
Wait a minute! Now you've taken this too far! I mean sure, ugly people will be treated like shit by society, but Half Life 3 will fucking be! I don't give a damn that the last of the original writers left Valve.

HALF LIFE 3 WILL EXIST!

>>38366882
>Limits have everything to do with it. The limitations imposed by nature, by society, by family, by everyone you meet... it never ends. Everyone wants you to compound more limits on a person who loathes limits and hates the many I already have to deal with.

We are clearly dealing with a completely irrational hatred of limits by now. You're virtually telling me that it upsets you that an object cannot exist in the same place as another object. Physics be damned!

We're beyond logic here.

>I can't improve even if I want to.

You know what an excuse is? That's one.

>Limits that are beneficial to the self are good as long as you can break them. As long as you can kill yourself at any time, existence is tolerable.

If everyone's existence was tolerable, nobody would ever kill themselves. You need to work on that logic, Coats.

>>38366947
He's too caught up in writing lengthy replies to every detailed point you make to reply my very simple and to-the-point question

Coats sen-pai please notice me

>>38366901
>There is much less of them. That is my point.

I call for confirmation bias up the ass here. Definitely. I'm sure an objective study would prove you wrong. We'll never know, but I'm pretty damn sure.

>Still when you see someone driving a new mercedes, it's likely gonna be someone attractive.

That's retarded. It may be someone who cares for image, and thus makes sure they look good, but it remains to see what you consider attractive.

>That's the point exactly, many people who are content and valued ignore this to be happy.

You didn't get the point. It's not about being content or happy, it's about KNOWING the things you PRETEND you know about. If you were such a woman expert, you'd have put your Mr. Willis inside a few by now. My point is: you don't know what you're talking about; it is you who is content and happy in believing bullshit that makes you feel safe and secure. We've already established that what you hate in women is actually what you hate in yourself; it is you the shallow meatfucker who wants attractive women only.

My gf says I spend more time talking to you fags than my gf but that's largely because I don't have much to say to her after so long wat do?

>>38366901
>I have NEVER in my life been called tall by anyone. I have been called short plenty of times.

Your memory is shit, then. I've called you tall many times, because you're 178 cm and that's tall. You don't remember? No surprise: confirmation bias at work, baby.

Whenever you talk like that, I feel the fucking urge to insult you ever so much. I'm trying to keep it in check but fucking hell... Expect homosexual jokes soon.

>Well society looks down on them.

No, YOU look down on them! YOU do that.

Hey dan have you ever met/spoke to/seen very very beautiful women who keep insisting they look bad?

That is exactly what you sound like with your height.

My dad is 1.58m and he got married, had 3 kids and last i checked he is alive. He has worked a job for decades and eats sleeps goes to the loo like a functional human being does. Get a grip.

Also my dad has owned at least 3 Mercedes in his life and he isn't handsome. i'm from singapore where car tax is fucking expensive too

Would get a photo of my dad sitting in his merc to show you just to prove my point but i dont want to be doxxed.

>>38365978
>If sports were dull, it wouldn't be so popular
Most people like limits. Remember the bee analogy? What I say is not objective, it is simply my perspective on the matter, which is all that matters to me being the individual to react to such.

>Chess would fucking suck
You know what is boring about chess? The fact that it has the same rules every single time you play. If only you could break the rules entirely and create a new system for a short period. I used to play with chess pieces on silly putty and stick the pieces in various places. Then I would remove the bottoms and make the chess pieces into finger puppets. Much more fun.

>They no longer play chess
Perhaps this is why I avoid playing chess. It is limits I don't see as beneficial but rules made by others to impose upon me. It is cucking me, making me their little bitch.

>Limits are required to exist
As long as they benefit the individual and can be removed at the whim of said individual.

>More intense. Sports change over time.
Oddly enough, I see it as static and heavily inhibiting.

>Imagine death match on an infinite map
I would love that actually. You know, this is the problem with multiplayer, everyone else plays the same few maps over and over. Imagine if everyone could noclip, it would be a lot more fun to try to beat the others. They should have more patience or play a different game if they are bored by that.

My OCD makes it near impossible to play games with others as they always use the same maps, but maps I can't touch because they were newer than the older maps that nobody touches. So I spend time wandering through the deathmatch maps nobody else plays, often just attacking walls I chose to be enemies.

>>38367085
Wait, so you actually think there is no correlation at all between bad looks and less success? I mean it's just common sense that there is one.

>We've already established that what you hate in women is actually what you hate in yourself; it is you the shallow meatfucker who wants attractive women only.
But I also hate it in women. You will now NAWALT your ass off, that I'm sure off, but take a gander at tinder to prove yourself wrong. And what will you say now? Oh yeah, that doesn't count for whatever reason.

>>38367098
become a fag and dump gf

>>38367098
Tell her to talk to us more.

>>38367112
>Your memory is shit, then. I've called you tall many times, because you're 178 cm and that's tall. You don't remember? No surprise: confirmation bias at work, baby.
Well even if it offends you, you don't count. You have never seen me. You come from a very different culture. I'm pretty sure someone from Philippines would also think I'm tall. Doesn't matter. Not one damn thing.

>No, YOU look down on them! YOU do that.
Are you really this blind or do you just pretend to be? People who got born genetically superior know it. And they will shit on those who are inferior if they dare to step out of line. Just try watching them once, try talking to them. They are smug as shit and they know they got the better deal here.

You are ignoring reality.

>>38366987
>Yet you have warned me at several points to stop X or you will forsake me.

Yes, which means I took it, did I not? The part I can't tell you without sabotating my ways, which I'm about to do now, is that while I tell you I'll leave you alone if you don't respect me, I won't actually do it, or not permanently. Because you must learn to respect others, you absolutely HAVE to. One way to make you understand that is to force a consequence on you. Just like your rape/salad bullshit, and why you don't rape just because of the consequences. There are many consequences that you don't see. Coats, there's a whole world out there that is invisible to you now. You must learn it.

>We need to make people less ignorant in that case.

No, we have to make you less ignorant. You are the one who's missing pieces, not them. Just like Dan, for however long you decide that everyone else is the problem, you will not heal.

It's you, not them, and by them, I mean normal people in general, not your family.

>You simply say what you feel from the heart.

When you're 5. Even at 5 kids know how to lie, pretend, etc. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you get to cancel all those nuances for everyone else, Coats.

> If you want to have sex with someone's sister, say such

No, because saying that does MUCH MORE than just saying that. It says countless implicit statements, such as:

1. I believe myself allowed to disrespect you and your sister without consequences (this often calls for a physical fight)

2. I'm threatening your sister, and you (also calls for a fight)

And others, which you may not be aware because you don't seem to take into account the existence of other people when you think about communication. You see the words and their meanings, but you don't go one bit further than that, so you don't get anything.

>>38367195
Bad idea famalino, this is my time to myself

>>38367184
Pretty sure the same issues would reemerge, only muskier

>>38365999
>The floor
Actually, the floor is torture Nick. My feet feel... compressed, like I am being pressed against a surface I just want to go through. It is miserable to have such a limit.

>The walls in your bathroom
Would be nice if I was appreciated by some pervert enough to be jacked off to. I would if I could watch others in their bathrooms, except for those that decided it would benefit them to put up walls.

>Whatever keeps you from the NEETs
That would be an unbalanced limit as they would get more control over me and I would gain no more over them. As I said, have to play the game when others play.

>Your clothes
Had many dreams about society becoming a nudist colony. Would be nice. Could check out many naked females, maybe even find ways to rub against them and it not be harassment.

>Doors
Without doors you got doorways. Easier than fighting with a handle or knob or other thing that proves I am retarded.

>Your roof
It benefits me to have this, for I would otherwise get affected by the cold. As said, if it benefits the self, a limit can be imposed, as long as I could take down my roof at any time.

>>38367133
>My dad is 1.58m and he got married, had 3 kids and last i checked he is alive. He has worked a job for decades and eats sleeps goes to the loo like a functional human being does. Get a grip.
The fuck is that supposed to mean? Maybe if he wasn't a manlet, he could have had a more attractive wife and more success. Not to mention that singapore is manlet land.

Also that's why I said "new". Owning an old beat up mercedes doesn't mean shit, these things cost next to nothing.

>>38366998
>ugly people will be treated like shit by society,

You still think as if you were stuck in school. Ugliness in school is one of any number of differences that can be used to be singled out. It's not inherent to ugliness. Most people like ugly people because they're no threat to them. They're not competition. If you knew women as well as you claim to know them, you'd know many women like an ugly friend, a friend that highlights how pretty other women are.

As to HL3, there's no way they can make it good at this point. They're going to make it Virtual Reality and shit, and it'll suck a big fat one.

>>38367098
>My gf says I spend more time talking to you fags than my gf but that's largely because I don't have much to say to her after so long wat do?

Sit down with her and talk. Chances are she won't have much to say and within 5 minutes you can come back to us.

>>38367264
>Most people like ugly people because they're no threat to them.
Oh wow, you completely changed my perception. How glad am I now to my genetically superior lucky overlords.

>you'd know many women like an ugly friend, a friend that highlights how pretty other women are.
Yeah because that surely isn't humiliation, right?

>As to HL3, there's no way they can make it good at this point. They're going to make it Virtual Reality and shit, and it'll suck a big fat one.
No. No. No. No. No. No.

>>38367283
That would only highlight the issue, ending in collapse

>>38367112
>178 cm and that's tall
HAHA nick's such a manlet faggot, not even 182cm is considered tall quick fooling yourself loser

>>38367339
For this one time, I agree with the haha-shitposter.

>>38367140
>What I say is not objective, it is simply my perspective on the matter, which is all that matters to me being the individual to react to such.

You need to change that thinking if you ever hope to understand reality and other people.

>You know what is boring about chess? The fact that it has the same rules every single time you play.

That's what makes it stable and enjoyable. Imagine a game where you have to play the fucking tutorial every time you wanted to play. Fuck that. That's some Driver crap right there.

>If only you could break the rules entirely and create a new system for a short period.

This is where your idiocy upsets me. YOU CAN. You can do anything you want with a fucking chess set. You can shove bishops and queens up your ass and shit them out into a target: nobody will stop you. You can make your own fucking rules. For a king to end up in your rectum is the new checkmate, no problem. Anything is possible. But it's shit. It's not interesting.

> I used to play with chess pieces on silly putty and stick the pieces in various places. Then I would remove the bottoms and make the chess pieces into finger puppets. Much more fun.

All right, I see the problem, and it's the same as before. You are basically a child. Finger puppets aren't fun for adults, but chess is. You're trying to dress your emotional arrest as everything except emotional arrest.

You're trying to make it sound like other people are "not free" and "drones" while, in reality, you're just far behind them on everything.

>It is limits I don't see as beneficial but rules made by others to impose upon me. It is cucking me, making me their little bitch.

You literally think chess rules exist to cuck you. Lord have mercy. Same persecution complex as Dan.

>>38367258

How did you know for sure my mom isn't beautiful
And
How would having a more beautiful wife make him more successful? He's more than happy with her and they love each other. He'd stay if my mom got in an accident and lost her good looks.

That's success.

By admitting 1.58 is 'short' you are admitting you're tall

>>38367378
>You literally think chess rules exist to cuck you. Lord have mercy. Same persecution complex as Dan.
They do if you randomly end up with only half the figures compared to other people. It's just being set up for failure. Same as being born inferior.

>>38367140
>I would love that actually.

No, fucking hell, an infinite DM map means you'd NEVER SEE ANYONE! How would you love that?

Go play No Man's Sky for its DM qualities and tell me you love it, just tell me you love it, if you dare.
> if everyone could noclip, it would be a lot more fun to try to beat the others.

It wouldn't. That's why people don't play that way.

>They should have more patience or play a different game if they are bored by that.

That's not the reason. You tell them to have more patience but when playing chess, you'd rather play fingapapits. Please shove a king up your butt. Checkmate, mate.

>>38367140
>My OCD makes it near impossible to play games with others as they always use the same maps, but maps I can't touch because they were newer than the older maps that nobody touches.

So why do you do that dumb shit? Pray tell.

>>38366041
>You don't allow them to exist
I allow them to say what they wish, they can chose to censor themselves if they like, but I will consider such an act pointless on myself. In return, I can say what I wish and because it is foolish I will not censor myself. It is a fair trade.

>Refusing a person's existence
I see, so if they are not censoring themselves with me, I don't exist. Is this not fair? Eye for an eye, they currently can take my eyes and I cannot do anything. This system has us being able to fairly make each other blind. It is a balance.

>Giving value to what THEY feel and think
Why would I seek to do this when they seek to limit me? They don't give value to what I think of not having limits. Ergo, we either communicate poorly or one of us gives up on the other. Just don't control me.

>If you exclude this, you impose a limit on them
But they can not value what I feel or think, which they do even if rules are in place, so it evens out. This is the big difference, I seek fairness, you are saying to be cucked by making myself inferior for being the only one devalued.

>That way you know what's OK and what isn't
But that kills so many freedoms, so many choices you have, and replaces it with someone who devalues you and thus gives you no meaning to communicate.

>Do integrate all I'm saying
Perhaps I am too retarded to learn

>>38367382
>How did you know for sure my mom isn't beautiful
Well for one she is from Singapore. Her husband is short even for Singapore. And also her son is on /r9k/.

>How would having a more beautiful wife make him more successful?
This is not even a question that needs to be asked.

>He's more than happy with her and they love each other. He'd stay if my mom got in an accident and lost her good looks.
That's every kid thinks about their parents. Well, I don't.

>By admitting 1.58 is 'short' you are admitting you're tall
The difference from Singaporean average is almost the same as the difference to average in my country.

>>38367172
>Wait, so you actually think there is no correlation at all between bad looks and less success?

Yes, YES, DAN, YES. Unless looks matter in your line of work, YES, YES, OUI, JA, SI, DA, YES, FUCKING FUCKING YES.

Most careers that make a lot of money have NOTHING to do with looks.

>law
>medicine
>computers
>engineering
>science, research
>etc

Short of being a model, front desk jobs (and even those generally are fine if you take care of yourself), jobs don't require you to be good-looking. Well-groomed is enough.

It's just an excuse you have. You still have to show me your face for assessment.

>But I also hate it in women.

Even when it doesn't exist in them. I've seen you at work with that shit, Dan, I've seen you.

>NAWALT

I learned a new one today. It's true, though.

>tinder

Why would you resort to Tinder for anything? Tinder is where humans go for hookups, Dan. HOOKUPS, DAN.

>Oh yeah, that doesn't count for whatever reason.

It doesn't count because Tinder is used principally for hookups and sexual encounters, in which mostly looks matter. Women who want a serious relationship don't look for it on Tinder, as a general rule.

>>38367443
>This is not even a question that needs to be asked.
Explain why, more clearly.

>>38367218
>Well even if it offends you, you don't count.

I'm not offended, but you're wrong.

>>38367218
>You have never seen me.

That's your fault.

>>38367218
>You come from a very different culture.

Bullshit excuse. I come from a more abusive family than your country could ever be abusive.

> I'm pretty sure someone from Philippines would also think I'm tall. Doesn't matter. Not one damn thing.

Reminder that you're 2 cm "shorter" than the average of your nation. That means you're the same size as most.

>People who got born genetically superior know it.

You take these memes so fucking seriously it's retarded. The only thing that makes you inferior is your mental illness, your confirmation bias, your love for your own bullshit. If misery was a cock, you'd be slobbering all over it like one of the whores you love to hate.

>>38367218
>They are smug as shit and they know they got the better deal here.

No, that's your impression. Remember that guy's portrait? It was neutral, you thought the woman was looking smug.

>You are ignoring reality.

I've had relationships with reality, I know. You haven't, because you don't know. Excuses are what you know, first and foremost.

>>38367252
>Actually, the floor is torture Nick. My feet feel... compressed, like I am being pressed against a surface I just want to go through. It is miserable to have such a limit.

Well just imagine if there was no floor or ground: you'd fall to your death.

>Would be nice if I was appreciated by some pervert enough to be jacked off to.

Then why don't you fucking go on Craigslist and make your wish come true? You can even get paid for it. You know why you don't do it? Because it's not fucking true. You'd not actually enjoy it.

You're so disconnected from yourself that you don't even know what you'd like or not. Test yourself: find yourself a perv on craigslist and see if you really want to do such a thing.

>>38367497
>Most careers that make a lot of money have NOTHING to do with looks.
Firstly, you're completely missing out management and entertainment. These are the careers that really earn a lot. And you need good looks for both of these.

>Even when it doesn't exist in them.
It does. Showing some women where it allegedly doesn't proves nothing.

>I learned a new one today. It's true, though.
No it's not.

You're just ignoring everything. I don't know honestly why I bother opening this conversation time and time again. Let's just leave it be.

Of course now you will be all "hurr u running away" I don't give a shit what you think. I get it, you ignore the reality to be sane and happy. Good for you.

>>38366057
>Strictly between the people involve
Society means many things to me. It at large, a few individuals of the society, it depends on the context. Society is just a group of people with a common core set of beliefs that they instill upon others, the individuals of which change based on the pool involved.

>>38366078
>You think if I insult you it automatically means I hate you?
No, but you heavily dislike me. You talk to me as a curiosity, an interest, but dislike what you hear. This is the reason one insults, to state their disdain for another. Why insult if you are upset with a simple idea?

>Which is partly why I completely stopped
Censorship of yourself in such a manner is unhealthy. It prevents you from speaking your true meaning. It distorts the truth, pervades it, and destroys all meaning of all you say. What you say can have zero meaning at all if you have limits.

>Talking is more than just saying how you feel
For what purpose is talk? Either for the expression of ideas or for the removal of the feeling of isolation. The latter is simple feeling. The former is a concept, which because humans are feeling creatures, gets modified with a subjective context to have feeling. Ergo, everything said is said for how you feel or what you think.

>>38367258
>The fuck is that supposed to mean? Maybe if he wasn't a manlet,

I know it burns to see men who are shorter than you be more successful, but you have to notice the scorn YOU have for men of modest stature. Do you notice it? It's not women hating on short men, it's you. How do you explain this bullshit?

>"Women are whores and sluts, they hate short men, just like my memes tell me!"

>"Manlet!"

Dan? Make some fucking sense please? I want a serious resonse to this. Make it snappy and sharp. I'm just about to get mad.

>>38367258
>he could have had a more attractive wife and more success.

You don't know his wife nor his success. This proves you don't even care to know if your theories are right or wrong, you'll deny anything that doesn't work your way.

I know beautiful women who are married to short men. You'll say, "MUH IF HE WAS TALLER, HE'D HAVE GOTTEN A MORE BEAUTIFUL WOMAN," and no, he wouldn't. Some women are the most beautiful women in the world. There's no one above them.

You know how we call these women? I'm sure you don't.

Women you're in love with, cunt.

>>38367580
>you ignore the reality
You just described yourself

>>38367580
>management and entertainment
If you've never seen an ugly CEO before go get a job in a posh hotel where rich business people go to attend business meetings at.

>>38366088
>Proof is you've insulted me a few times
Simply because you got insulted by a lack of limits. That I could not help for I seek to have no limits and thus that is my natural speech. Humans can also evoke emotions from fact and construe the wrong emotions, upon which case it was the fault of the speaker for not communicating properly, ergo why you say something is wrong and I communicate it in a clearer way.

>>38367633
Pls answer my questiom about the 4chan box and captcha. Plz

>>38367298
>Oh wow, you completely changed my perception. How glad am I now to my genetically superior lucky overlords.

Oh wow, shitty sarcasm!

>Yeah because that surely isn't humiliation, right?

When that happens, people don't make it explicit, they don't talk about it. People won't avoid others just so they don't get into such a situation.

>No. No. No. No. No. No.

Gordon Freeman is 148 cm tall, they needed very small people to get into that suit,
it uses less material, saves money, so Gordon got chosen for his small size.

>>38367357

Then you're a fucking imbecile because Mickey Mouse over here never speaks his mind or the truth. Haven't you noticed?

You should feel sad that you agree with someone who doesn't believe what they say. Mickey is probably shorter than 178 as well, and has a small dick, because nobody above that height with a serious cock gets this angry over nothing, for over this long.

And yes, trollfag, I will ignore you for the rest of this thread. Enjoy.

>>38367382
>By admitting 1.58 is 'short' you are admitting you're tall

Snap, Dan.

>>38367403
>They do if you randomly end up with only half the figures compared to other people.

That's not the rules of chess.

>>38367656
>People won't avoid others just so they don't get into such a situation
I would. I wouldn't want to be the ugly one.

>>38367438
>I allow them to say what they wish, they can chose to censor themselves if they like, but I will consider such an act pointless on myself. In return, I can say what I wish and because it is foolish I will not censor myself. It is a fair trade.

No, you didn't understand the point. Go back to my post and read again. I'm not rewriting this shit again.

>>38367580
>entertainment

Google "ugly famous actors"
If you get 0 results your point is proven

>>38367438
>I see, so if they are not censoring themselves with me, I don't exist.

Other people have empathy, unlike you, they won't have to make an effort to understand you. You imposing your will on others is not fair. And remember, it's not a trade. Tradism will kill any desire for anyone, to be your friend or more. Trading will only lead you to be alone.

>>38366128
>It is a ritual and its purpose is to establish that everything is OK.
I see. This ritualized moment always confused me. I never understood where to go after this ritualized moment occurred or the purpose for which others did it. I simply did it since it felt like a useful way to start a conversation when nothing else could be said. So the answer is that I must ensure to the other person I am not going to kill them? If so, why not say simply "I am not here to kill you.". If I do not perform this ritual, why would I kill a person? Would it not make more sense to perform the ritual to fool others to thinking all was right, ergo it becomes easier to kill?

>Face danger and sense it
But I am not dangerous. I am cucked. I do not have the power to hurt another. Why can they not sense my weakness and simply communicate, knowing they have the advantage? They disrespect me, yet fear me. This does not make sense.

>>38366148
Indeed. Yelling you are a gaylord with a dunces hat is irrational on the basis that it does not benefit the self, unless the self wishes to be a gaylord or wishes to be seen as others to be such.

>>38367443
>This is not even a question that needs to be asked.

Because you can't answer it.

>>38367443
>That's every kid thinks about their parents. Well, I don't.
https://www.google.ch/search?q=husband+stays+with+burned+wife&oq=husband+stays+with+b&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.4921j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

>>38367680
If im Mickey mouse id like to let you know that Im 180cm and I consider myself short, my dick is 7in which is probably large by youre pathetic standards
Nick=stupid manlet dicklet tripfag and I hate his threads

>>38367721
>ugly famous actors/actresses
I can't think of a single one that isn't a comedian of some sort.

>>38367580
>Firstly, you're completely missing out management and entertainment.

I survived several managers. Looks had little to do with their success and failures.

Same with entertainment. There are many women you'd consider ugly who have a career in fashion and modelling, because they look different. If this surprises you, it's because you know nothing of that world.

> Showing some women where it allegedly doesn't proves nothing.

Then showing some where it does doesn't either. Thing is, you can't even show that much.

>No it's not.

See your above statement: if some do it doesn't mean all do, you fucking said it yourself! But oh, I see, you only apply it to beliefs YOU want! Ah ha! I got you there.

>>38367781
>comedian
Are comedians not entertainers?
>y/n
Can comedians be ugly and rich?
>y/n
Can comedians be ugly and famous?
>y/n
Can comedians be ugly, rich, AND famous, and married?
>y/n


Answer my questions with either yes or no

>>38367580
>You're just ignoring everything. I don't know honestly why I bother opening this conversation time and time again. Let's just leave it be.

Countering your bullshit is not ignoring you. Responding to you is not ignoring everything. Disagree with you is not ignoring what you say. I know you're getting sick of your own bullshit, and it's about fucking time.

Don't "leave it be," just fucking change for fuck's sake.

>Of course now you will be all "hurr u running away" I don't give a shit what you think. I get it, you ignore the reality to be sane and happy. Good for you.

Except that makes NO sense. YOU do that. If I ignored reality, how come reality matches what I tell you of it?

You say women are this and that, and you end up alone. I say they're not, and I end up with women, and what I say gets confirmed by reality, so how am I the one who ignores reality?

You are.

>>38367814
They want to rife you because you're pointing out facts they want to avoid facing. By getting you rifed, they think they have won and can happily run away from the facts you presented to them

>>38367819
Yes to all, but the problem is that attractive people have privileges.

>>38367586
>No, but you heavily dislike me.

Wrong again. If I did, I'd not waste a second on you.

>You talk to me as a curiosity, an interest, but dislike what you hear.

No, by now, I've understood enough about you and it's not curiosity anymore, or even interest. I want you to improve and get better. I dislike what I hear because I know it means that you won't get better; what I dislike is you not getting better.
>This is the reason one insults, to state their disdain for another

I've stated my reasons and they were not this.

>Why insult if you are upset with a simple idea?

I've explained that as well. It's not about ideas. It's about dumb motherfuckers who stay in shit when they get a chance to get out of it.

hey guys im faggot nick and these threads arent actually my shitty armchair philosophy but actually where I can argue with other idiots on irrelevant topics and make no arguments but I spend my entire day here because I have no outside life or friends

>>38367586
>Censorship of yourself in such a manner is unhealthy.

Pff, bullshit. If nobody "censored" themselves like that, they'd have no friends, like you, and isolation is unhealthy, not politeness.

>It prevents you from speaking your true meaning.

It's always possible to speak your true meaning while remaining respectful. If you don't believe that, give me a sentence you think cannot be said in a respectful manner and I'll prove you wrong.

>What you say can have zero meaning at all if you have limits.

Wrong again. You have all these grand statements you make, but they're wrong, and untested by reality. Get off your fucking high horses, Coats. You can't tell me you have low self-esteem and then speak like you're the human communication expert.

>For what purpose is talk? Either for the expression of ideas or for the removal of the feeling of isolation.

Stop being retarded, right now. Thanks.

>>38367868
>Yes to all, but the problem is that attractive people have privileges.
>you are right but i must come up with an excuse that you're not


A rich ugly and famous comedian, and his wife, will get to jump the line when queuing at the supermarket. Or get random strangers offering them free shit. Or asking to take photos with them.

An unfamous Chad will not get this treatment.

Is this statement correct? Again y/n only

>>38367633
>Simply because you got insulted by a lack of limits.

That wasn't the insult.

> that is my natural speech.

That's why you need to grow up. All things natural aren't good.

> upon which case it was the fault of the speaker for not communicating properly,

That always depends. Sometimes people are cunts and don't get what they should get, for various reasons.

>ergo why you say something is wrong and I communicate it in a clearer way.

Instead, you should make an effort to see that I'm telling you isn't wrong. Like I said before, spend less time arguing and more time thinking about what I'm telling you. Or else this will be pointless.

Remind me which one of us has his own place and freedom and has successfully made friends and lovers?

If you want to get on my level, listen to me.

>>38367697

The beautiful ones don't have such situations, I meant.

>>38367721

Steve Buscemi. I wouldn't even piss on his face, but he's a famous actor and critically appreciated.

Your point is proven. Can't wait for Dan's comeback.

>>38367931
Yes.
Origanolli.

>>38367965
Oh, okay. You would be correct.

>>38367970
He was good looking and doesnt look that bad nowadays, hes odd but not hideous

>>38367992
So, looking good does not automatically equate to having privileges
Y/n?

ugly people can be more successful and/or privileged than rich people.
Y/n?

>>38367766
>I must ensure to the other person I am not going to kill them?

For fuck's sake, are you really an alien trying to understand the customs of my planet?

No, Coats, the original reason for doing this doesn't mean it'll happene very time. You'll greet friends even if you know they're not dangerous. It means things are OK and it's OK to talk.

>If so, why not say simply "I am not here to kill you."

Because if you did, the person would immediately wonder why you'd want to kill them, making them worried. Isn't that fucking obvious?

Have you ever done an IQ test of any sort? Or any tests? I really feel like you're about 4 of age in some areas.

>But I am not dangerous. I am cucked.

You are dangerous. You'd rape a woman if you were sure you'd suffer no consequences, as such, you're dangerous to women. You're dangerous, don't be a pussy and say otherwise. You're a potential rapist, that makes you dangerous to half the population.

>They disrespect me, yet fear me. This does not make sense.

Who fears you? It doesn't take much to be dangerous when you're a human.

>Indeed. Yelling you are a gaylord with a dunces hat is irrational on the basis that it does not benefit the self, unless the self wishes to be a gaylord or wishes to be seen as others to be such.

The point went right over your head. That's why we should stay clear of analogies. Dan is saying that healing yourself of your mental illness is hard work and can be painful.

Both of you are too pussy to do much about it right now.

>>38367779

Everyone knows my dick size by now. Don't go read the archives, I don't want you crying.

I don't believe you're 180 cm and I'm sure you're fat.

inb4 "see, I made you respond! I'm a good troll!" I do what I want.

>>38367781

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls004246438/

This goes to show that "ugly" isn't a very defined category. Some of these I find beautiful, but I can see why they'd be considered ugly.

The women I loved the most weren't "perfect beauties", but that only made them more lovable. It's like, I can see beauty in a man, but it won't make me feel anything. Same on some very beautiful women; I know they're beautiful, but it doesn't pull at the heart strings.

>>38367819

Nice rhetoric. Manhandling the Dan.

>>38367868
>attractive people have privileges.

Like what? I'm attractive, I want my privileges, where are they?

>>38367931

We have a tough one over here. I like that.

I should do that y/n stuff more often.

Very Socratic, in fact. Dialectic up in this bitch.

>>38368008
>He was good looking

He's considered ugly by most. Like I said, it's subjective. Nobody is hideous short of mutilation or burn or acid or something.

>>38366170
>You'd not actually want to discuss sex with a female friend
To do such is illogical. Everyone has sexual urges. Everyone has a body. Everyone takes a shower. Everyone shits. To cut off these threads of conversation is to get rid of a lot of what makes every person similar to one another, thereby in turn preventing their ability to comprehend or otherwise communicate with another. Now you will say my mother's ability to talk about sex freely was abuse.

>You seek to remove others' freedom
They see my freedom and have become offended by it to the point it is their freedom to have me enslaved. If your interests do not line up with my interests, we do not have a common goal and therefore it becomes faulty to communicate. Ergo we talk until one of us gets fed up with the other. I do not see any with a common goal, therefore I talk with those that eventually get fed up with me. It is not the fault of either of us, but is still a problem due to the lack of there existing humans with a common goal.

>Can you even conceive of that
Such is illogical for it was an act performed, all the more to talk about it if new facts are realized for the purpose of transcendence. Transcendence is beneficial, sex is an act, to transcend sex you need to talk about it. Not talking about it confines it and makes it weaker. She is in turn preventing herself from transcending in sex, but also from preventing you, which in turn means she is attacking you as a human to self-improve through communication. To prevent self-improvement is an attack on the human form, to attack is abuse, she was abusing you, you were in an abusive relationship. Ergo it is good you are not with this woman on the basis she is unhealthy and seeks to wish to abuse those she is with due to being the malicious individual she is.

Captchas are getting more annoying. Now I cannot get them to function half the time.

>>38368111
I ate green tea cake with my favourite milk /tea/ at 9pm and now i can't sleep. It's almost 2am. I have to get up at 7.30am and i'll be up and running for 10 hours tomorrow and sunday, not too sure yet but i may end up on a stage spouting words in two to three languages in the hot unsheltered summer sun

>>38368019
Question 1: No

Question 2: It depends on the rich person

>>38368134
>To do such is illogical. Everyone has sexual urges. Everyone has a body. Everyone takes a shower. Everyone shits.

That's why you don't discuss this. They know, they do the same. You won't discuss shitting with a woman until you're very, very intimate. Intimacy is a journey, you need to walk it, you can't just jump phases; if you do, people will know you're a fucking alien, Coats.

Plus, you're wrong, not everyone has sexual urges, for instances.

> Now you will say my mother's ability to talk about sex freely was abuse.

Yes, because it is. No son of a mother should be exposed to her sex talks. You know what happens when parents are abusive fucks? You.

>>38368134
Coat

Do you know who or what shits, has sex and showers in public?
Answer: chimpanzees

Well if you check your birth certificate though. I'm pretty sure you were born 'human'

I always think whenever anyone gets a hideous burn, loses an eye, so on and so forth, it's the perfect excuse to get a badass mask or Kano-style face armour.

>>38368201
>It depends
I should have asked 'true or false' instead of 'yes or no'
Now if dan could be less stubborn and and answer too.

>>38368134
>They see my freedom and have become offended by it to the point it is their freedom to have me enslaved.

No, that's persecution complex bullshit. How many times do I have to say this until you realise it?

You aren't trying to learn anything by now. It's been over 15 hours of arguing back and forth, and I see zero intention on your side to learn a damn thing.

>Such is illogical for it was an act performed, all the more to talk about it if new facts are realized for the purpose of transcendence.

Put it into your head that YOU don't understand much about much. Your logic doesn't include 90% of the elements it should consider.

As long as you keep your pretentious ways, you won't learn. You may think you aren't arrogant, but you are. You never doubt a thing you say. It's time to do so. Because you're wrong.

The amount of bullshit you speak is out there.

> you were in an abusive relationship.

No, dumbass, neither of us was comfortable with discussing certain things, so we didn't. I know that makes no sense to someone who's 4 mentally and wouldn't mind shitting on the carpet in front of guests, but to adults, it's normal.

The rest is just so much crazy bullshit that I won't even respond.

>>38366245
>When you speak to someone, there are more things involved than biological
Like what? Please explain what else one can talk about when you know about them in general. They know you are not going to kill them, where do you go from there in a normal conversation?

>They need careful approach
Why is such an act put in such a limited time frame with such limited people. To gain more opinions is to transcend better due to being aware of the majority as well as those most important to you. To gain fewer opinions means you have no idea what you are doing.

>>38368100
When a person is attractive they are seen as holding valuable personality traits regardless of whether they have them or not. You would be seen as more intelligent and interesting than an average or ugly person. You were probably given more attention in social situations than an average or ugly person. These are a few examples of attractive privilege.

>>38368168

Damn, that will be hard...

>>38368049
im not fat NICK im actually pretty skinny but ive started lifting to improve that
t. 180cm Mickey Mouse

>>38368311
>where do you go from there in a normal conversation?

It's an activity. It's not just exchanging information. You're showing the other that you like their presence, and they do so too, but not in direct ways, as that would be creepy and unsettling and would convey other meanings (such as, "I am retarded and understand nothing of humans, please let's fuck.").

>Why is such an act put in such a limited time frame with such limited people.

Narcissism again. It's not limited, it's sophisticated. A space rocket is more complicated than a car, but it goes farther too. It's more fragile and dangerous, but it's built for other things.

People aren't limited, you are. People can engage in such sophisticated exchanges, you can't. While you're shitting on the carpet, others engage in relationships and exchange things you don't even know exist. Tenderness doesn't exist to you, you wouldn't even know how to do it or receive it. And that's sad.

>To gain more opinions is to transcend better d

Red flag, whenever you use oddly elevated terms for obscure actual meaning. What do you transcend here?

>. To gain fewer opinions means you have no idea what you are doing.

This is tiring me: do you really think you know what you're doing? One moment you say you don't, the next you're pontificating all over the place like a self-absorbed expert.

If you're that fucking good at people, why are you socially retarded and isolated? Oh, it's everyone else's fault? Can you believe your own bullshit here?

>>38368316
Lol. When i was in my shitty vocational school i would work on some project for weeks and sleep 2~5 hours a night for 3~6 days straight and then have to present it to the lecturers.

This is nothing

>>38368314
That slight leverage in attention is not enough to classify as 'privilege'
Until i see people cutting the queue at the cashier because they're handsome your point isnt proven

>>38368314
>When a person is attractive they are seen as holding valuable personality traits regardless of whether they have them or not.

Very arguable. You may want to convince yourself, but that doesn't last too long.

>You would be seen as more intelligent and interesting than an average or ugly person.

For the purpose of being in a relationship, maybe, but not when it comes to getting a job and getting results.

>You were probably given more attention in social situations than an average or ugly person.

I wasn't. Besides, attention isn't always a good thing. But if that's all you have to show for privilege, then it's virtually nothing.

You're a Tumblrina now.

>>38368368

Good thing you got a name.

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Why are the people who claim to be the most 'made of love' completely unloveable? Atlas, you must have some ideas.

>>38368434
so nick if you care about outwards appearance so much (constantly mentioning height weight dicksize etc) im assuming youre insecure, why is this nick?

>>38368476

Atlas is unloveable to you because he's loved by too many other people already,

Daily Atlas anti-bullying defense force.

>>38368483
>(constantly mentioning height weight dicksize etc)

Whenever I mention these, it's when it's been used as excuses, usually by Dan.

You mentioned your cock first, please notice.

I have no reason to be insecure about any of those things, in fact. Moreover, insecurities about the body rarely have their roots in the body per se.

Let's talk about you dislike of me and the thread, that's more interesting. If you dare, that is.

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>>38368505
Not a fan of this ADF desu. Tell the truth, you're being funded by George Soros aren't you?

>>38368545

I'm funded by the Association of Donuts for Fatsos, so yes, the ADF. Financed by George Fatsos himself.

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If anyone wants to see an American indie movie with elements of comedy and weirdness, I recommend Happiness.

If you don't go, "Damn..." every 5 minutes or so, you're probably from a very dysfunctional family.

Warning: it is normal to hate most of the characters, have some degree of compassion towards them.

From 1998.

Recommend comparable movies if you know any.

>Ice Storm
>American Beauty

Someone on /tv/ told me about Buscemi's first film as a director, I think, I forget what it's called.

What are some games I can play on the weakest laptop known to mankind?

I'm considering that "I have no mouth and I must scream" game. I've read the short story already.

I wonder if I can play that game on some emulator website.

>>38368424
Well, it's not like being attractive doesn't come with down sides either. Your love life is pretty fucked, and it's a whole lot harder to stay in a relationship. I'd rather be how I am now, average. There was actually a thread up earlier about this. The OP wanted to see if other robots were attractive or not. He linked a website that was supposed to determine whether a person was hot or not. Here's the link if you want to try it for yourself, https://www.prettyscale.com

>>38368527
I think these threads are stupid and pointless, youre helping noone faggotnick

>>38366245
>It's fucking weird how you can't seem to appreciate "limits" in daily life but somehow fucking impose yourself retarded ass limits for fucking nothing
Welcome to my life. It is retarded. I believe I said I was a walking contradiction. Now you see how insane it gets.

>I wonder if your limit dicksucking doesn't come from the fact that you can't handle unwritten rules out there
Perhaps. If so, how do I stop this mess?

>>38366264
>Existing to someone else and acknowledging someone else's existence
For what benefit does that serve?

>Being two hours late on the conversation was not freedom
What alternative exists? Either I am ridiculously late, like I am today, or am unable to express myself.

>What you think is a limit will give you more freedom
I don't understand Nick. The only thing you are saying is nothing is free, suck a dick and enjoy it.

>>38366283
I guess it depends how desperate you are to get out. Do you really want help? That is what it comes down to here. What do you prioritize more, getting help or staying the same. The route out is made clear, that is all that can be done, it is up to you to take it or accept you are a retard who can't change.

>>38368730
Do you like tycoon type games? Try this

https://www.openttd.org/en/

It's so much fun. Or find a website with NES/SNES emulator and play anything.

>>38368769

That's not the reason, because you come for every thread, and you see what happens in them. You see people coming back, for months.

Maybe you're upset that the thread helps people. Is that it?

>>38368771
>Welcome to my life. It is retarded. I believe I said I was a walking contradiction. Now you see how insane it gets.

No excuses. If you don't eliminate bullshit when you see it, your situation is completely your fault. This is your chance to get better.

I will be tough on you about this, Coats. We aren't here to fuck around and giggle. If you aren't ready to take things seriously, tell me now.

>Perhaps. If so, how do I stop this mess?

How about you listen to what I tell you without imagining I'm always wrong?

>For what benefit does that serve?

If you only knew. It's the best thing in life, the very best. No life is worth living without these "benefits".

>What alternative exists? Either I am ridiculously late, like I am today, or am unable to express myself.

You often do this bullshit where if it's not your way, it's nothing. Stop it.

>>38368587
>Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Ever seen Synecdoche, New York?

>>38368773

I liked Transport Tycoon, back in the day. I may even have tried this thing once.

>>38368867

It was on my list. Still haven't. I hope he doesn't shoot loads on walls in that movie.

>>38366370
>Write your questions down somewhere
Paranoia of someone finding my questions, I like to destroy all evidence. An anonymous imageboard is the safest place to put them.
>The intent here is for you to learn how things actually work with people
But if they differ from me, how can I be like them?

>Arguing was good, but as we saw last time, when it goes wrong for you, you resort to illogical and untrue points
I shall try and follow this, though I don't agree mine are illogical or untrue.

>You'll complain this is a limit, but it'll be efficient
I'm a retard, not sure what you are even asking me to do here. Do you want me to reply less? I don't get the meaning.

>>38366385
Is it irony I can see what you are saying here? You are giving us a choice to make to face our situation. It is our choice to take it or not. It may be ridiculous, but how bad do we want it?

How willing were people to saw off their own legs, chew threw their arms, or otherwise permanently disfigure themselves to escape a boulder? Some may not. It is the individuals' choice to make, nobody else can do that for them.

>>38366447
>So I get your words more regularly
That makes the bump count reached a lot quicker. Plus, isn't that the opposite of not replying? I don't know what you want from me. I shall continue as I have and hope you clarify it later....

>>38368730
>Papers, Please
>Yume Nikki
>Saya no Uta
>Heroes of Might and Magic 3
>Emulators of Genesis games such as Shining Force +2

>>38368888
Nice quads. My personal favourite movie.

>>38368897
>But if they differ from me, how can I be like them?

By growing, learning, healing.

> I don't agree mine are illogical or untrue.

I know, but either we focus on a specific point and argue it to the death, or you accept that I can be trusted on account of my experience in normal and abnormal people.

>>38368897
>Is it irony I can see what you are saying here?

No irony there, it literally is the situation. You guys would sooner drown in shit provided it was your own, than swim in someone else's pristine pool.

>>38368897
>How willing were people to saw off their own legs, chew threw their arms, or otherwise permanently disfigure themselves to escape a boulder? Some may not.

Give it a few days, most will. Animals do.

There's a movie about it. The moral of the story is to take a fucking cellphone with you or tell people where you'll be.

>>38368897
>That makes the bump count reached a lot quicker.

WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT! Do you think I am limited in the amount of threads I can open? If the thread reaches bumplimit, I'll make a new one, big fucking deal. We did it before.

To reach 500, though, it needs to be a very involved, or long thread. Our record is like 620 posts or more, maybe 660? I forget. Hasn't happened since last time I was on holidays.

>>38368897
>Plus, isn't that the opposite of not replying? I don't know what you want from me. I shall continue as I have and hope you clarify it later....

Smaller chunks is all I suggested, so I get your responses more often.

>>38368921

I hadn't seen my own quads. It is your favourite?

I hope you see almost everyone in it is fucked and many are cunts, right?

Do it spoilered: name two good people in the film.

>>38368782
idk who youre mistaking me for, ive shitposted on ONE previous thread but I hid the rest

>>38369001
If you haven't seen it I'm not telling you shit

>>38369058

I thought you meant Happiness, my bad.

>>38369047
nick this is the second thread ive been in why are you laughing like that

>>38366472
And I forgot to add my name. I am bad at this...

Dan, you are quite right, looks get you ahead in life. This is why every robot is ugly. Why not just accept being a loser? Focus on the individual, on the self, and who cares about everyone else. Just try to find a way to not get cucked like I am being.

That is your choice to make. It is the choice of a coward. It would be my choice as well. I can't saw off my own arm. I will seek to find other ways out until I die because sawing my own arm off is too much of a sacrifice.

>>38366562
I rather shop at cheap places. Why spend more for food? Sounds like a waste. Just another way everyone is obsessed with spending more money for no reason.

>>38366569
It bugs me heavily. I loathe the limitations here. I hate the box, hate the post button, hate captchas, hate the limit on text, hate all these constraints on the site.

But I deal with them because I feel I benefit from being able to post and understand it is necessary for some procedure to exist for things to be posted or else it wouldn't be intuitive. Life and everything in it starts with you being heavily limited, stuck in confinements. The tutorial has little free will, then every level past that gets more free until you have almost no limits whatsoever. The problem is I feel I am still stuck on the tutorial level.

>>38366588
Limitation I see the benefit of and can change by choosing not to post. Choosing not to come here. Now tell me about societal conventions and what choice I have in the matter?

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>it's another tripfag norman circlejerk thread
when will we be rid of this disease

>>38369115

Because you're so fucking transparent. I honestly don't know at which level you're trying to troll, but I have a hilarious feeling that you believe you thought you could actually make me believe you weren't yourself.

That's why I laughed.

So, why do you hate me exactly?

>>38366629
>Are the people in expensive cars more ugly?
Yes. They usually are overcompensating for being rejects in other areas of life.

>Group of young people
Yep, and everyone else has someone else to talk to, except for the fact that they will find a way to make a group with each other so they don't have to talk to you because you are the dangerous one.

>5'10"
Join the club. I feel like a midget. Everyone I hear from or see is bigger than me.

>ugly and short people
That still view you as shit and thus want nothing to do with you. They are the enemy as much as any other.

>>38369116
>Dan, you are quite right, looks get you ahead in life.

How would you know?

>This is why every robot is ugly

I've known robots who were hot, but thought they were ugly.

It boils down to whether you're ready to work on yourself and improve, or whether you want excuses.

>Why spend more for food?

Plenty of reasons: tastier food, local products, animals being treated differently, etc.

>It bugs me heavily. I loathe the limitations here. I hate the box, hate the post button, hate captchas, hate the limit on text, hate all these constraints on the site.

Then go back to pen and paper and see how you enjoy that freedom. Are you dumb? How do you send a fucking post without the send button?

>>38369146
>when will we be rid of this disease

As soon as you're able to read the threads you like and ignore the ones you don't like, smart boy.

>>38369146

I know it's you, Rich.


>>38369181
>Yes. They usually are overcompensating for being rejects in other areas of life.

Awesome, now we have two bullshit versions of the same thing; I hope Coats and Dan will somehow cancel each other's crap.

>>38369159
Nick theres not one single guy who hates you and these threads, the entirety of r9k with like 20 exceptions hate you and these threads, most just hide them but some shitpost or 'troll'. just make a fucking discord and leave r9k this place is not for you loser
also im not the guy you think I am

>>38369216
having a bunch of these shit threads just invites more retards who in turn make even more bad threads, to the point it's impossible to ignore

>>38369241
>I know it's you, Rich.
Nick you absolute dunce its clear as soon as he posted this the amount of posters went from 12 to 13, pay attention retard

>>38369260
>the entirety of r9k with like 20 exceptions hate you and these threads,

This is a known mechanism by which the mentally ill person tries to escape being responsible for their own abnormal behaviour by saying that everyone else feels the same way. It's almost as though you'd be ashamed to be the only one with that opinion.

> just make a fucking discord and leave r9k this place >is not for you loser
>also im not the guy you think I am

This place isn't for me, that's right, since I'm basically a Chad by your standards. What are you going to do about it, cry? I'm here for the people of this board, so I am in the right place for that. I don't belong here, but I'm not here for the same reasons.

And you are the guy I think you are. You're the illiterate one. You're very obvious, Rich.

When you mentioned my height, you failed to realise I didn't mention my height in this thread. It's only in past threads, and many threads ago, that I stated Dan and I were the same height, yet you knew I was 178, like him, proving you have been here before, and of course you have. You post virtually all the time, and you're one of the few anons who can't spell. Look around, most users spell just fine. That's how you're so transparent.

>>38369279
>to the point it's impossible to ignore

Rationalisation. It takes a click to ignore.

>>38369290

Ahaha, don't get pissy, Ricky, you have nothing left to hide.

Now let's focus on why you hate me.

>>38366662
>My thoughts are expressed clearly
Because you aren't a narcissistic psychopathic retard who can't understand the simplest things in life

>I don't think you've changed your way of thinking much
I haven't? The problem is I have zero idea of what is going on.

>The limits of other people aren't willing limits either
And thus my problem. I cannot change them, who cares about society's role in all of this? I cannot change them and it does not benefit me that they have these limits.

>If our exchange makes you feel bad, you must tell me
I feel bad when you try to act more civil than you are thinking. I want the Nick that says what he feels, for that is the true Nick.

>There may be discomfort at times
Not so much. It is a healthy debate. You state things, I counter them, you counter them, we come to a solution. We just haven't reached that point yet, it takes time.

>>38366666
Well, my OCD forces me to read a lot of books I absolutely loathe. Nice quintuplets by the way.

>>38366672
>Just try with any sports of your choice
Golf

>>38367357
That wasn't me haha lmao
That is short though

>>38369349
>I haven't? The problem is I have zero idea of what is going on.

Coats, I keep telling you what's going on, are you not reading?

>I feel bad when you try to act more civil than you are thinking.

I always tell you what I think if it's beneficial. You don't get access to my secrets yet.

>I want the Nick that says what he feels, for that is the true Nick.

Sometimes you know more about people when they lie. That's because not everything is in the content of what people say. I'm always the true Nick.

>You state things, I counter them, you counter them, we come to a solution.

That's not how it goes. It goes like this: I tell you how people normally function, you don't believe, you tell me how you see things, I tell you it's wrong, you still don't believe it, we never come to any solution or anything.

>Well, my OCD forces me to read a lot of books I absolutely loathe.

Let's focus on this stuff for now. I want you to make me a list of OCD things you do.

I hadn't noticed how Lord Kek loved me today. Fuck. Quands plus quints.

>>38369372

C'mon, at least pretend that your other you knows how to place periods at the end of sentences.

: |

>>38366694
>Then why don't you go sleep with your cousins
Because that is socially unacceptable and would get me arrested.

>Getting raped by your NEETs
I had dreams about that. I am messed in the head.

>>38366713
>So you would take a dump in front of me if you could?
No, because it wouldn't be beneficial to have a turd on the ground. Would be nice, but the cleanup would be a pain, even if I would want to. If you mean on a toilet, no problem.

>You're wrong again
Why does a pervert jerk off to someone if they do not matter to them in some way?

>>38366759
One question to Dan. Abraham Lincoln was unattractive to the point he is often joked about for being ugly (which is why me looking like him, except fat, makes me absolutely hideous), yet he was the president of the United States. How did such an ugly man get so far if this limitation exists?

>>38369486
>Because that is socially unacceptable and would get me arrested.

Isn't it because, more simply, you hate them? Sleeping, as in actually sleeping, isn't illegal. In fact, even sex with cousins isn't illegal. Provided they're adults.

>I had dreams about that. I am messed in the head.

Uh... Was a dream or a nightmare?

>No, because it wouldn't be beneficial to have a turd on the ground. Would be nice, but the cleanup would be a pain, even if I would want to. If you mean on a toilet, no problem.

You wouldn't feel any shame? You wouldn't feel bad that I'd fucking hate seeing that? That doesn't bother you at all?

>>38369486
>Why does a pervert jerk off to someone if they do not matter to them in some way?

Enjoying something doesn't mean it matters.

I enjoy cookies, they don't fucking matter.

>>38369327
>since I'm basically a Chad by your standards
no its because youre a loser who has a sheepish mindset and I mentioned most of r9k not as a group to back me up but because theres most likely more people who shitpost and hate on you here you absolute buffoon and the height thing, in this thread you mentioned 178cm being tall when it really isnt so i assumed youre a manlet
t. not the guy

>>38369327
I never misspelled anything, jackass
>>38369425
There is no "other me," it's more than one person you manlet

Train your tactics here:

https://www.chess.com/tactics

That's what I'm doing. For now.

>>38366838
>Move on, because there's nothing more to do there
So I should just accept cucking and stay miserable? Is that your answer?

>Creative mode existed long before anything else
It did. But that was Infdev and Indev, which weren't for the general public in the same way alpha was.

>Examples
Wow... why on earth do people want creative mode? It sounds tedious if it is all presented to you. How can you collect everything if you already have it? The point of Minecraft is to collect as many ores as you can, eventually making blocks of diamond to signify you have found a lot. This seems to get rid of the point.

And that is the point, isn't it, getting rid of the point. Which makes it all meaningless because you need to be the one to get rid of the point. If they got rid of the point, it just became another rule society is enforcing on you, which in turn means the entire removal is pointless.

The lesson here is that Minecraft is actually pretty shit. It promises freedom, but is as confined as you can get, even trapping you on virtual servers.

Well, at least now I don't need to worry about working my way up there. The lesson here is most games are like Minecraft and thus most games out there are complete shit. Life is even more miserable than you could have ever believed.

>>38369593
hello nice to meet you, im the other faggotnick poster and nicks a complete idiot, he cant understand basic concepts and misinterprets everything I say

>>38369570
>no its because youre a loser who has a sheepish mindset

I'll ask you to show how and you won't back it up with anything, right?

>theres most likely more people who shitpost and hate on you here you absolute buffoon

Since you're always around, you know that's not true. I get a surprisingly low amount of hate in these threads. The only ones who hate are those who are asshurt in some ways. That's the only motivation that's strong enough to keep shitposting on and on. But I don't need to tell you that, you already know. You have your dark secret and you won't share it, because you're weak, too weak to face it or reveal it.

178 cm is tall, yes. Taller than most women, for sure, which is the only thing that matters to some degree when it comes to male's heights, but even this is not all there is.

It's always you rich. You always get upset about being told it's you, always. Coincidence? Fucking top kek.

>>38369260
>theres
>>38369260
>'troll'. just
>j
>>38369260
>im

>>38369593
In that one single post, you misspelled all these. You always misspell everything like you have dyslexia, and when you get upset, it becomes worse.

You'll call me a manlet when you're packing some heat, boy.

>>38369646
>So I should just accept cucking and stay miserable? Is that your answer?

As opposed to what? What are you going to do about things you can't change?

>>38366841
Finally made it up to here...

>>38366860
>The mind has countless ways of fucking you over
Like instilling conflicting OCD traits that go against your freedom and make you go insane and turn into a narcissistic psychopath.

>>38366896
>If Trent was under obligation to do that
Exactly, it was freedom of choice

>You keep changing the parameters
It would be better if musicians also had to paint. Those that did would be better than those that didn't feel the compulsion to do such. That simple.

>Definition is just reality
Wait, so definitions can't be accurate?

>>38369654
>sheepish mindset
>I'll ask you to show how and you won't back it up with anything, right?
>178 cm is tall, yes
my bad I meant to say loser in denial mindset,haha faggotnick manlet
I have no reason to be asshurt nor am i hiding anything so no im not 'weak' for no reason whatsoever

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>>38369651
You're not "the" other, there's plenty more
I'm gonna try to go back to napping
>>38369691
Nigga you thought

>>38369646
>which weren't for the general public in the same way alpha was.

It was. Anyone could buy it. I bought it in 2010 or so, for ten bucks. I was part of the general public.>>38369646
>Wow... why on earth do people want creative mode? It sounds tedious if it is all presented to you.

It's the mode with the least limits. Think about that until you understand your limit bullshit.

>The point of Minecraft is to collect as many ores as you can, eventually making blocks of diamond to signify you have found a lot.

Obviously that's not the point of Minecraft. The beauty of the game was that there was no goal, you did your thing, just like life. Another example where you seem to like limits.

>it just became another rule society is enforcing on you,

You see everything in this light, it's truly retarded. A nerd making a game in his underpants isn't "society enforcing its rules on you", for fuck's sake. Are you this delusional?

>The lesson here is that Minecraft is actually pretty shit. It promises freedom, but is as confined as you can get, even trapping you on virtual servers.

Too much retarded autism in that. Just read yourself.

> Life is even more miserable than you could have ever believed.

Bah, you're just whining like a cuck now. Not even trying to make sense anymore. Tell you what, put some diapers on, shit yourself, cry like a baby, you'll feel better. I'll pick you up in 10 minutes when you're done.

>>38369651
>im
>>38369651
>nicks a complete idiot
>nicks

>>38369651
>cant

Funny how you both make the same mistakes.

Drop it, Rich, it ain't funny anymore. It's cringe by now.

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>>38369731
faggotnick is a complete dunce

>>38369708
>It would be better if musicians also had to paint. Those that did would be better than those that didn't feel the compulsion to do such. That simple.

Then it would NOT be better. You're not making any fucking sense. Compulsions are meaningless if you're forced to paint in order to make music.

>Wait, so definitions can't be accurate?

Not when you switch from your own to just reality, while forgetting on purpose that what you meant wasn't what is happening in reality.

This is such retarded conversing.

>>38369719

Like I said, you didn't back it up. You never back up anything. You're a rhetorical midget. You never have any fucking comeback to give, you're not even funny, and you don't make any points. Of this entire thread, since the beginning, you're the most worthless addition to it. You're like a little fly. It's honestly the saddest thing to happen in these threads: your attempts at God knows what.

Are you trying to be funny? Are you trying to annoy me? Are you trying to show everyone something?

Typing like a ten-year-old and going "haha" and "lmao" makes you look dumb by any standards.

Stop being so weak, it's fucking cringe-inducing.

Just had a blackout but Now I'm back in the game, sup ppl?

>>38369731

I'm not even going to address this retardation anymore. Like I said, we past the point where it was funny, and we're past the point where it's cringe. Now it's just whatever happens after cringe.

>>38369822
>Typing like a ten-year-old and going "haha" and "lmao"
never have i EVER said 'lmao' you stupid idiot nick

>>38369880

I'll ignore you until you come up with something more interesting than this retardation.

Dan, are you here?

Facman?

Anyone else?

>>38369822
>you're the most worthless addition to it
No that'd be you. What's absolute cringe is you thinking it's only one person
Unrelated note, does anybody know a good hentai browsing app?
>>38369880
I don't know if you are or not, but remember to sage the threads

>>38369938
I'm still here. Trolls are boring except haha poster

>>38369968
Thanks, you're a pretty interesting lady too

>>38369968

They're the same guy, isn't it obvious to you? Same misspellings, same absence of punctuation and caps, same silly bullshit. He's making an effort to appear different, when two actually different guys wouldn't spend so much fucking time on this.

It'll be fun watching him talk to himself, but he'll blow it like everything else and I don't want that cringe in my life.

Do you want to play some chess?

>>38370021
I say again Nick: I've never misspelled anything while posting in your threads. I hope you'll realize you're the real cringe sometime soon, and I hope I'm there to haha lmao at you when it happens

>>38366917
>You haven't given me a single counter example for any of this
Is it possible to define such a thing without it becoming a rule?

>>38366932
I don't embrace my OCD limits, I want them gone

>>38366940
Other people want limits, that is why. To them, this situation is fine. They are fine with cucking me.

>>38366947
Yep, I am behind by 3 hours this time. May need to stop at certain points and slow up even more.

>>38366964
So what do I do? Just settle for the fact I am being cucked? Not even try to fight? You can't ask that Nick.

>Half Life 3
Been wanting to play Half Life for years.

>>38370021
I'm not paying much attention, the whole obscene rant the other day just tickled me. I'm afraid I'm playing Tekken at the moment.

>>38370071
>sometime
>>38370071
>when it happens

>>38370077
>Is it possible to define such a thing without it becoming a rule?

Still no counter example.

>>38370077
>Other people want limits, that is why. To them, this situation is fine. They are fine with cucking me.

To be cucked requires having a wife. You have no wife.

>>38370083
I don't know what you're trying to say haha LO's giving me the succ

>>38370147

More like your girl gave someone else the succ, amirite, boy?

>>38370167
I don't think LO ever gave you the succ, but it's pretty good

Bit of a slow night tonight eh? Not a lot going on. Tell you what, how about some more of those unusual games/ techniques you talk about now and again. Guinea pig me up, stave off boredom for a bit.

>>38370410
>Tell you what, how about some more of those unusual games/ techniques you talk about now and again.

I don't see what you mean. I mention chess sometimes, but other games?

>>38370421
Your trademarked 'dark therapy'. We tried the white room exercise once. Anything else?

>>38370436

Oh, OK. You should do the swapping thing more. Who's the human being you care the most for right now?

>>38370452
Swapping thing? Probably gf

>>38366995
>What's the benefit of this?
No idea. But giving up and dying isn't an answer either. Just because everyone else is cucking you, the answer is not to give up.

>You're stubborn
Not surprising to me. One of my "best" traits.

>One mouth but two ears?
You will eventually snap because nobody else will ever shut up enough for you to talk?

>>38366998
I WILL ONE DAY BE ABLE TO PLAY HALF LIFE 1!

>We're beyond logic now
Well, what am I supposed to do? Be cucked? Or fight like a man?

>Excuse
I am a literal retard. Retard's can't improve. This is why you can waste this much time and I don't learn anything.

>Nobody would ever kill themselves
No, because then they wouldn't have the choice, now would they? So decided life wasn't worth it, others decided to stay for whatever reason.

>>38367032
I notice you. 4 hours late but I notice you :'(

>>38370463

Pick a memory from your past, and have her in your role. Observe what happens in your reaction.

Pick a bad memory.

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>>38370464
>But giving up and dying isn't an answer either.

Complaining is not "fighting" or doing anything positive, it's just whining. Not complaining isn't "giving up". In fact, you give up because you aren't trying to get better.

>Not surprising to me. One of my "best" traits.

Also your worst. You cling on bullshit that feels safe and familiar, not realising that it's your actual prison.

>You will eventually snap because nobody else will ever shut up enough for you to talk?

You need to listen to the right people more than you are doing.

>I WILL ONE DAY BE ABLE TO PLAY HALF LIFE 1!

You can play HL1 right now. Nothing prevents you from it.

>Be cucked? Or fight like a man?

Fighting like a man, here, would be listening to what I say and trying to understand, asking questions, learning. You're not doing it. You're hiding behind your core beliefs and won't budge.

>I am a literal retard. Retard's can't improve.

That's an excuse. This fallacy allows me to use my little series of robots making logical fallacies. Pic very related.

>>38370498
What happens is a welling of murderous rage and then, almost like a hole in a balloon, it dissipates before I can really feel it.

>>38367098
I don't know how to continue conversations past the "I am not going to kill you" part. I would freak out and probably ask if she shaves her pubes as literally the only thing I could come up with.

>>38367223
>The part I can't tell you without sabotaging my ways
Very good indeed. I feel better knowing that it wasn't as bad as I panicked.

>Whole world out there invisible to you
How do I do that if I let society cuck me? It sounds contradictory. Accept all these limits, you learn it.

>It's you, not them
I do notice I have this contradiction. I am the messed up one in society.

>Cancel all those nuances
So how do I learn? Sounds rather impossible at this point.

>You see the words and their meanings, but you don't go one bit further than that
I can entirely agree. This is my problem, I don't understand other people. How can I be expected to know all these meanings?

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>>38365231
Hey Nick just wanted to say hello, and share something. Today went on a call, pulled several hundred feet of cable through a too-small pipe with too many bends. As I was working, I noticed my grandfather's ring. He passed on a few years ago, and grandmother gave it to me this past May for my birthday. I've never met a man who'd work hard as him. But the harder I worked, the dirtier I got, the brighter this ring shone. Just like him, shining brightest in hard work. Felt him there with me today, started tearing up a bit.

>>38370586
>What happens is a welling of murderous rage and then, almost like a hole in a balloon, it dissipates before I can really feel it.

Now that's unusual. How come it deflates all of a sudden like that? What's your thought right before it deflates?

>>38370671
loser loser i hate you faggotnick

>>38370671
Well, I got this image of tearing into everyone involved, stoving their heads in with rocks, I saw the actions and the words as other than my own almost as though I wasn't allowed to feel that way anymore and suddenly I didn't. It never reached that heat of rage, just the first flicker before it went out.