>non-vegans will defend this

>>38299342
Meat taste good
That's the only reason there needs to be

Evolution.
Fuck everyone else.

I dont see the problem, white people get yummy meat while the lower races get picked off... looks good to me

>>38299342
It's because the mud races worship the cows instead of eating.

>>38299342
Pic related is communism, enough said

food security should be a community's responsibility not a world's. People aren't starving because whitey eats beef, it is because their communities are not competent

>>38299342
Foreigners cant into agriculture or civilization.

>>38299342
veganism won't solve hunger you hippie liberal, capitalism is what's causing it

>empowering the minority

No thanks bucko. I am content just the way i am.

How can you still justify eating meat? Besides "muh taste"

>when will other vegans starting posting their cont info so i won't be so alone

>>38299403
And? It clearly works more efficiently than the first picture

>>38299417
I can't but I'll still do it

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Those who can't work don't eat.

>>38299342
Some regions don't grow food crops well, and are only suited for pasteurized animals.

because fuck blacks, also cereals are bad for you, we are not prepared to eat them, but we can eat meat in small quantities

>>38299417
I don't have to justify anything. Animals are a resource to be used. Their feelings are irrelevant and they aren't part of the social contract.

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>>38299520

Why are their feelings irrelevant? The social contract is a social construct

>>38299342
Why do niggers keep having kids when they have no food?

Because it's profitable to do so and helps farmers have a bigger demand for some crops.
Also you can feed cows, pigs and other farmanimals grass and foodwaste so it's not really a good argument to become a vegan.

>>38299342
why should we feed the entire global population just so they can endlessly fuck and reproduce?

it would end up causing option 1 anyways.

Communism don't work cuck.
Eating cooked meat was important for the evolution of the man. We most likely would not be this here if the primitive human didn't Hunted and cooked the now extinct woolly rhino.

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>>38299537
>The social contract is a social construct
ancap approves

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First lets look at the only part of a cereal crop the a human can eat (after some prep) the grain.
Next let's look at silage i.e the non edible part of a cereal crop.
Typically this is used for animal feed as livestock can digest the parts we can't and turn it into edible meat.

But instead, let's just throw that away.

>>38299398
Underrated post ITT.

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>>38299342

1.they use animal bones fertilizer, even your veg isn't meat free
2.purley grain based diet is bad for your teeth and health
3.not all meat is cow and pig
4. there is no such thing as a vegan since they will just be killed for the byproducts needed in keeping society functioning there is not an alternative for everything

people who can go with out meat were already squeemish eaters to begin with

>>38299574
communism is the reason your fuhrer killed himself I suggest you join him faggot

>>38299537
Why would they be relevant? They simply aren't our problem.

It's a social construct that is upheld because it provides mutual utility.

If I don't eat meat, all livestock will cease to exist. Is it better to live and die or to never exist?

>>38299342
>tfw whitey is stopping africans from growing crops/keeping cows
why whitey done gon gotta be so evil mayne

>>38299678
If you're just bred for a life of suffering it's better to never be born.
You should know this from being on r9k.

>>38299647
>i want to minimize cruelty and environmental impact as well as reduce moral qualms as much as possible by at least not eating meat and thus reducing demand
>durr you cant, all of the animal is used, might as well just go all out and eat a whole cow every day for breakfast

>>38299361
fpbp
I reckon in 20 or so years when the food crisis means meat is no longer a sustainable option that pic related will be true, but until then people want to do whatever they want and don't care about the consequences unless they're immediate, so if they like meat they'll eat it.

>>38299834
>well of course I wear leather shoes, I'm moral not insane :)

Because the waste product from animals is used as fertilizer which helps produce a higher amount of crops.

>>38299444
You've been living under a rock if you think communism works kek

>>38299537
Everyone on this planet is a fedora tipper, whether they realize it or not. Every day you don't kill yourself you acknowledge that the pleasure of your daily existence is worth the suffering imparted on others to sustain it.

It doesn't matter if you don't eat meat, there is still a material cost, including the death of creatures and resources denied to others. Take responsibility for yourself and acknowledge the struggle for existence.

>But my life causes less suffering than average, surely that makes me morally superior
Just more naive. You're still choosing yourself at the expense of others, and that's fine.

>>38299342

Finally someone who doesn't shill omnivorousness on 4chan. So tired of the brainlet meat eaters.

>>38299857
Didn't imply it and I aim not to. The goal is not to fucking cut yourself off from the animal world and float up into the heavens in an ethical bubble but to reduce pressure and raise awareness via knock-on effects (e.g. more awareness towards eating meat>less meat eaten>less demand on producing meat and more demand for non-meat-eating produce>more demand and research into cruelty free alternatives)

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>>38299874

Communism could've worked if the west actually made effort to trade with communist states.

>>38299417
God said we may eat them.

>>38300035
ahh, it was capitalism's fault that communism failed who would have guessed

>>38299874
how did Stalin turn the USSR int a superpower then nigger

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>>38300035
Yeah it's entirely the evil capitalists fault.

>>38299917
You should look into Jainism this is a core part of their philosophy.

>>38300072
>>38300116

Ofc it is, one of the reasons why the USSR failed is because there was a high demand for western products but the ruble wasn't worth shit so they had to find other ways to trade, which turned out not to be enough to meet the demand.
It would've worked if capitalist states didn't restrict trade so much.

Communism is shit.
Socialism is shit, but a soon to be necessity due to automation.

Even with our current meat production we have more than enough food to feed the entire planet twice over without issue.
It's a logistical problem of getting the excess food out of 1st world nations and into the dirt-poor, agriculturally starved ones.

Or in other words: Eat my asshole, meat doesnt cause anybody to starve and its not "unsustainable"

>>38300035
>ableist
Tumblrina detected. As a Democratic Socialist why the fuck do you SJW's have to ruin everything which I like.

>>38300473

I didn't make that you fucking retard.
Why the fuck does every newfag on 4chan think that every image that someone posts is that persons creation?

>>38300527
Oh, sorry then. Never mind, its just an assumption. Anyways, I was directing my rage towards SJWS because they are fucking retarded. For example one thing was ableism, the entire concept is stupid. Hell, they claim that stupid or dumb is ableist. Kek. Another thing is that they bitch about not being equal, and when they are, they cry and complain that waaah I dundu have privulugu anymore

>>38299342
Overpopulation isn't my problem and when the government decides it's just easier to cull the overpopulated "nations" rather then give them charity you'll solve several problems at once there will be less mouths to feed and less sub human scum shitting up the air and vast expanses that could be turned into solar farms we could wane the entire world off fossil fuels.
at least the parts that matter.

People who use ''muh taste'' as an argument for eating meat might as well say rape is okay because it feels nice.

>>38300733
But, anon, might makes right.

Surely at least one of your ancestors was a brutish rapist.

>>38300733
>comparing eating a stupid animal bred to be eaten to raping a sentient human being>>38300733

>>38299342
>2071
>eating carbs
Sure kid

>>38300114
By literally starving millions of people who lived in the Iron Curtain to death so that Russia itself could enjoy some level of comfort and even then you had bread lines.
Die you communist piece of trash.

>>38300776
People who think animals aren't sentient probably aren't sentient themselves.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201306/universal-declaration-animal-sentience-no-pretending

I'm not even a vegan either, but saying dumb shit like that is just ignorant.

>>38300766
>But, anon, might makes right.
I guess you wouldn't mind me finding a group of people so we can rape your boipucci then, right?

>>38299342
Because I don't want niggers stealing my food

>>38300879
but you aren't capable of making a group of ass rapists, so the hypothetical is pointless

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>>38299444
>communism
>working

>>38299342
Are you honestly suggesting we give africans food?

I think people should all be eating meat, bit beef is the world's #1 source of co2 emissions.

Obviously that's a problem, right? Maybe we should cut down on red meat or at least beef until we can find a way to control and utilize their farts.

>>38300879
Of course he would mind. The real question is whether you can get away with it.

>>38300931
>but you aren't capable of making a group of ass rapists

Watch me
>>38301032
The group will become so large our authority will replace that of the state. Instead of taxes you will pay with your anus.

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>>38300035
>it would have worked if everybody they absolutely despised helped out

>>38299647
>>38299964
but if i cant all why do?!

No farmer feeds their animals wheat. My cows get fed fucking grass from my field and alfalfa grass I buy from a farm up the road.

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>>38300879
>I guess you wouldn't mind me finding a group of people so we can rape your boipucci then, right?
Not even man enough to rape someone yourself, huh?

>>38299342
people can't digest hay or compost

>>38301262
I believe a lot of them are fed corn, which makes raising livestock more inefficient than raising crops for consumption.

The best argument for reducing meat consumption is reducing impact on the environment. I don't personally care as I'm not concerned with the future of the planet, but if you are emotionally invested in that kind of thing it would probably be in your interest to push for legislation.

>>38300776
Women are made for sex too so it's the same except it's less bad to rape since it only lasts a short while.

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>>38300035
Communism doesnt work. I was born in Poland in 1989, my parents lived most of their life under communistic regime (and the one in Poland was actually one of the most easy going one in comparison to other parts of the USRR) and theyre still fucked in the head (my father would sometimes eat stale food so it "wont waste" and mom would rather keep broken, useless shit so "maybe it will be useful in the future").

You have no idea. Youre clueless and delusional. You lack basic konwledge about anything in the god damned world, you probably grew in suburban, sheltered area somewhere in western europe or USA and you think you have life figured out because you went to private university this year. No, you dont have life figured because you did not figured out something as remotely easy as google/wikipedia search so far (and 30s of research dismisess your claims.

You know what works in extreme socialistic states? Massive murder, starvation, misery and gulags. You braindead, naive, pathetic fucktard.

We humans are natural predators. We can survive if we only eat meat, while vegans have to take B12 and will still be less healthy than non vegans.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-dna-raising-risk-of-canc/

>>38301525
on the other hand a lot of people who didn't live in a communist shit hole have the same behaviors you describe your parents having so maybe you are assuming cause and effect or are just a tard?

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>>38299342
>mfw
orgiocili

>>38299342
>Implies one cow is only enough to feed one person

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>>38300035
On a second thought Ill adress your claims about trade. What. Fucking. Trade. Trading what between two superpowers living in stagnating state of a cold war. Trade. Fucking. What. For what. We could produce what the fuck we wanted since USSR spanned 2 fucking continents with every good imaginable including gas, oil and gold, amassed 300kk of population and sent people into the fucking space.

But we didnt, the system was at failure. What were we supposed to fucking trade, you fucktard. We couldnt even produce enough toilet paper to keep our poopholes clean, not enough milk to avoid malnutrition in children and fucking meat so men working hours and hours in deadly, hazazrdous environment of enormous factories wont be hungry. You braindead fucktard.

Trade fucking what. With who? Maybe trade workers? You know what were PGRs, socialistic communes of peasants producing food? Where destinated person would spend 20 years feeding one kind of animal or cleaning stables? With no other qualifications whatsoever? You braindead fucktard. Only in the very late 80s you could buy anything in my country using foreign currencies (and only dollars/marks from DE) and everything was closely monitored in fear of spies. You braindead, fucktard.

As I said earlier, communism brings endless, uncompromised and unimaginable misery people of your kind cant even comprehend in their little, closed heads. And the funniest thing - people of your kind, so called "useful idiots" were first to shot down after the revolution, since you were too dumb to be used. And you knew too much to be left alone. And this is a historic fact. You braindead, delusional, fucktard.

Pic related, you.

>>38301525
This the truth. Not USSRS comunist countries had it a bit easier but still. This is coming from a person who lives in post soviet country. Communism just sounds good on paper. Every cunt who say comunism works its just that soviets did it wrong are fucking clueless. You just are neets who want state to provide everything and do shit.

>>38301329
For all I know he could be an 8 foot tall mass of meat and muscle. If he's below 200 pounds I could probably rape him solo.

>>38300319
Russia has a wealth of natural resources that isn't being taken advantage of. It's comical how rich they are in natural resources yet is one of the poorest nations in Europe. Communism sucks.

Fucking idiot, the food problem isn't a shortage of food but inefficient distribution of said food that gets concentrated in first world countries, no matter how much extra food there is in the market, prices would just go down on first world countries and food producing countries on the third world, wich would cause a reduction of profit for the food sector and subsequently reduce production to acomodate the smaller demand.
So good job on crashing an economy, people are still starving and some lost their job but your bread is 10 cents cheaper so it is fine.

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>>38301564
This tard gave you bunch of solid arguments since this tard still lives in post communist country that struggles even now (but were catching up recently quite good to be honest).

And you? Oh, you answered to the most unimportant of my arguments, the anecdotal one. You did not adress anything else. And you wont.

You spoiled, ungreatful, fucktard.

>>38299342
Because we'd all die of malnutrition by eating the same as a cow.

>>38299405
Seriously. Wtf were they doing for thousands of years before that they can't do now?

>>38301564
Because they had to live through famine and poverty.
Communism caused that, and Poland was on the lighter end of it too. His parents would have just been killed anywhere else in the USSR

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Morality is a social construct in the actual literal sense. Human beings have decided as a group that we would all mutually like to be safe from being killed, raped, robbed etc by one another and so we all agree to a stalemate. Animals don't participate in this system so they're fair game.
Any answer other than the above means that you brain has been fried by memes. Even if you believe that eating animal flesh is "morally justified", you still wrong because you think morals are real to begin with. Everyone should feel free to do whatever they want as long as they're prepared to face the repurcussions, and when it comes to eating animal flesh there are none.

>>38299342
So we should stop eating meat because some shitskins countries can't manage to establish a society? Fuck them, i don't care.

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This argument falls apart when you talk about eating shrimp. Shrimp eats stuff we cannot and is not at all resource intensive

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>>38301777
Meanwhile, pic related is you.

>>38303436
>Morality is a social construct
t. psychopath

>>38300256
We seem to have opposite conclusions. Jainists seem to believe in abolishing suffering. I'm talking about accepting and embracing one's own ego.

>>38299342
Now *that's* autism!

>>38299342
I will strangle lifestalk by hand before becoming a faggot, faggot

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Real communism hasn't happened and never will because it's a fucking retarded idea

>>38304369
>I will strangle lifestalk by hand before becoming a faggot, faggot
What

>>38300849
This
Originallio

>>38299342
>non-vegans
Let me stop (you) right there you absolute fucking retard. I know this thread is bait but that image is trying to show that world hunger stems from meat production because 1 pound of meat takes more resources to be produced than one pound of grain or whatever the fuck. Also meat is delicious and I don't give a fuck about what happens after I'm dead so suck my dick lmao.

Why do we need to have the maximum amount of people the planet is able to sustain alive at the same time? Why shouldn't everyone be able to eat cow instead?