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Why do people hate the rich?

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People who hate the rich are the worst people.
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>>38277183
envy and ignorance of basic economics.
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>>38277183
Because the rich exploit the poor
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>>38277183
People who never faced economic hardship are mentally inferior.
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>>38277183
Because property is theft.
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>>38277243
How so?

>>38277260
How so?
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>>38277243
90% of the top 1% of economic earners from 1995 to 2005 were no longer in the top 1%.

People who are good with money tend to rarely face economic hardship, or at the very least, do not remain poor for the entirety of their lifetime regardless of their starting point.

It's not the world's fault you waste all of your money on confectionary and video games and don't want to get a job, nor is it the fault of the rich.
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jealous mostly. you know how you idiots all pretend to be happy sitting at home collecting neetbux? this is more or less the same thing, all the kids these days want to be socialists, jealous of other people's money.

If you tell them they are being fools, they call you a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, as though aspirations are a bad thing.
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>>38277273
Because all owned things are owned because of conquest or arbitrarily declaring ownership, this dates back to the beginning of man.
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>>38277273
Property gives power and dominion over people. this goes against the people's god given right to true freedom. No normal citizen should be allowed to own property for the will abuse it.
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>>38277183
Under a society divided by social classes it is only natural that the working class hates the bourgeois and oligarchs. That struggle is the engine that moves history.
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>>38277183
Because they steal the surplus value of my work and exploit the working class by doing so. Basically legally robbing millions of people they "employ". No man shall be above another man in wealth.
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>>38277320
The system works, faggot. You may have learned about consensus theory in your sociology class, the reason the world is largely not at war with one another is due to respecting the boundaries of another country.

The few times this value consensus is broken, it usually results in more conquest, which would be your ideal anarchistic society. Effectively, the world would become more like the Middle East where the Kurds encroach on land, Palistinian and Israeli desputes would be more frequent and violent, or as I'm sure you're familiar because he's literally Hitler bro, the Russians encroaching on Ukranian territory.

The boarder system is obviously flawed given the above examples, but it's far better than the ludicrous complete lack of any system whatsoever that you thought of in your mother's basement at the age of 16, when you'd just figured out how the world works in its entirety to the point of infallibility.
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>>38277374
This is a mutually beneficial transaction that the working class agrees to. Additionally, the working class are fully aware of the terms under which they work, in that they shall receive a small piece of the pie whilst the rest is reinvested.

By definition, this is not exploitation.
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>>38277340
You're free to live, struggle to survive and inevitably die. Rights, much like property, are not God given. They were arbitrarily created at some point.

You fucking idiot.
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kek at all these butthurt commies in the thread.
They're just jealous that they're too stupid to become rich, so they want to force the rich to give them free stuff.
These people are much worse than even the greediest scummiest billionaire.
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>>38277320
>>38277340
>>38277361
>>38277374

Are we being raided? What the fuck is going on? Commies on 4chan?
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>>38277361
Alright Holborn let's not copy it directly out of a highschool sociology textbook.
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>>38277440
just retards .
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>>38277183
In all capitalist countries, rich kids that do everything wrong end up doing better in life than poor kids who do everything right.

Stop kissing up to the privileged members of society and accept that you have to spread the wealth.
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>>38277374
stfu commie to your kholkoz you go
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>>38277459
>in a capitalistic country

You're literally richer than the poorest 50% of the world.

Shut the fuck up you privileged member of society. Your opinion is invalid. Stop kissing up to the privileged 25% of society (the working class of first world countries) you disgusting capitalist pig.

Adopt more Africans you fucking bigoted racist.
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>>38277459
That's what keep society from collapsing, give me a single wealth commie fag country.

pro tip : you cant
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>>38277183

When people hate on rich people they usually mean like ridiculously rich people who exploit the lower classes by creating monopolies and such and own a huge percentage of the wealth although they have way beyond they need to live the most luxury life ever. Taxing the rich in such a way that allows entrepreneurship to be worthwhile but makes becoming filthy rich hard is the only possible solution.

Call me a socialist if you want, I just think economics shouldn't be social anarchy where someone can literally take huge chunks for himself without/barely giving something back and the weak don't even get the chance to improve (because they can't pay for school/college/etc without getting into big debts).
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>>38277505
"by creating monopolies and such"

wow dude you made it to one example before your 7th grade knowledge failed you.

Good job, you're special. You're going to go far I just know it you've got a great mind for sociology.
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>>38277384
The system works because of bread and circus, if the breadline runs out or the circus shuts down, the underclass take it by force. Honestly I just find it so funny you think that people should respect this bullshit weighed against their own survival, well being, and happiness.
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>>38277183
No one hates the rich for being rich. Rich people are merely held to higher moral standards than most people because of the power they have.
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>>38277283
This.
I've lived on a shit salary for 3 years working for the army and I've still saved enough money to live on while I study.
Poor people are usually losers who spend all their money on Friday nights before they payed their bills and get kids at the age of 21.
Then they wonder why life sucks, blame immigrants and start posting on /pol/
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>>38277529

I'll elaborate:

-Creating monopolies
-Exploiting natural resources
-Affect government (aka american oligarchy)
-Make cost of living higher
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>>38277565
People are surviving just fine. It is a very slim minority that do not, which is far better than those of communist, anarchistic and fuedal societies. It is indisputable that capitalist societies have led to the greatest advances in the standard of living of citizens across every country. The ones that have allowed capital to flow freely have seen the greatest benefits of this growth in their standard of living.

Happiness is fleeting, and one can be happy without your socialist model, much like one can be happy without a capitalist model. Ergo, this point is entirely irrelevant. You just added it on to make your arugment look more weighty.
Well being is tied into survival, you pleb. See the above point to be utterly refuted.
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Us vs Them culture that has been ingrained in society since man kinds inception.
Even in America everyone hates each other and fantacises about a zombie apocalypse so they can use all their expensive guns to kill their infected neighbors.
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>>38277620
>Monopolies are most effectively shut down by freemarket systems. See the British transport system as an example of state sponsored monopolies.
>Exploitation of natural resources literally occurs everywhere. You pleb.
>Right, instead of the American oligarchs affecting government processes, you had the Lords of the United Kingdom, or the Oiligarchs of Russia. Literally irrelevant.
>The cost of living is higher because of inflation, which is largely caused by the socialist policy 'quantitative easing'. You can eliminate inflation by not printing more money than is actually available. This was the case when we had the gold standard. There was even a specific case in the South where the printing press was shut down, and inflation literally halted for the 2 weeks during that timeframe.

You're simply don't know enough about it.
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>>38277216
This

Anyone who says otherwise is underage, or VERY delusional.
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>>38277216
the poor would do the same if they knew how
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kill kill kill kill kill the poor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I
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>>38277183
As a person heavily exploited by my employer, I hate him. Why would I not hate people that fuck with me and people like me? This is why I want more government regulations.
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>>38277715
"very delusional"

I think you'll find the word delusional on its own carries a lot of weight.

But of course, anyone who says otherwise is underage or delusional because you're literally infallible at the age of 17.
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>>38277718
irrelevant to the point made
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>>38277736
Dude if you are going to act like you aren't some underage faggot yourself, you could at least stop with all the reddit spacing and try to hide it.
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>>38277750
The point's bullshit anyway. See >>38277407
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>>38277777
>reddit spacing
>communist
>accusing someone else of using reddit whilst a communist
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>>38277684

>Monopolies are most effectively shut down by freemarket systems. See the British transport system as an example of state sponsored monopolies.
Not always as not all wish to sell out to the state.
>Exploitation of natural resources literally occurs everywhere. You pleb.
I see you're hard into that conformist mentality.
>Right, instead of the American oligarchs affecting government processes, you had the Lords of the United Kingdom, or the Oiligarchs of Russia. Literally irrelevant
So it's okay now?
>The cost of living is higher because of inflation, which is largely caused by the socialist policy 'quantitative easing'. You can eliminate inflation by not printing more money than is actually available. This was the case when we had the gold standard. There was even a specific case in the South where the printing press was shut down, and inflation literally halted for the 2 weeks during that timeframe.
That too, but the rich have a part in it. Some countries have taken it upon themselves to end this problem. For example, in Israel the government regulates prices on core items.
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>>38277777
those numbers...those beautiful numbers............w-wasted
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>>38277684
Monopolies are only shut down by antitrust laws enforced by the government, a wealthy enough entity can easily make the barrier to entry impossibly high.
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I don't hate people who worked hard and became rich/wealthy.
I hate self entitled people who were born into the rich, and think they're gods gift and superior even though they haven't done shit all their life.
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>>38277440
This is r9k. If it weren't for socialist neetbux half the people here would be dead (of laziness)
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>>38277183
If you go and make a living and find success, I'm happy for you. Live the American dream and have a good life.

If your parents did that, and now you're an entitled little shit who was born with wealth and then goes on to give opinions on success and poverty, fuck off I hate you. Bourgeois children are the problem, not self made wealth.
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>>38277846
>Not always as not all wish to sell out to the state.
Then legislation will be passed to punish those that don't.
>I see you're hard into that conformist mentality.
I see that you're hypocritically using finite natural resources to power your computer in order to complain about someone using finite natural resources to also power their computer.
>So it's okay now?
Not an argument.
>That too, but the rich have a part in it. Some countries have taken it upon themselves to end this problem. For example, in Israel the government regulates prices on core items.
Artificially regulating prices results in losses economically, the coal mining industry of the United Kingdom eventually incurred massive losses through their Keyensianism approach. The ideal solution is to simply restrict taxation on necessities, whilst taxing luxuries to a limited extent. The British Empire at its peak of power taxed 3% of the GDP.
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>>38277876
That worked out great for the British transport system. Just look at North Wales in the United Kingdom, with some of the highest rates and only on company is able to run due to government intervention. That company is called Arriva. The fares are approximately $4 to travel 20 miles, with government subsidisation.
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>>38277777
The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you >>38277736
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>>38277243
Actually wealthier people tend to be smarter then poor people so idk about that
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>>38277928

>Then legislation will be passed to punish those that don't.
Can't really say I've heard of that happening.
>I see that you're hypocritically using finite natural resources to power your computer in order to complain about someone using finite natural resources to also power their computer.
I didn't say 'don't use resources". I said 'don't exploit resources'.
>Not an argument.
True, but your 'argument' wasn't an argument either. That we had different oligarchs doesn't mean anything. Are you attempting to make oligarchy not seem as bad as it is?
>Artificially regulating prices results in losses economically, the coal mining industry of the United Kingdom eventually incurred massive losses through their Keyensianism approach. The ideal solution is to simply restrict taxation on necessities, whilst taxing luxuries to a limited extent. The British Empire at its peak of power taxed 3% of the GDP.
Then you'd have high price on necessities, and allow the higher class to over consume more while gaining less tax profit. Government innervation in the economy is critical to public interest.
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The gap between the rich and the poor is constantly becoming larger and that can't be good. Just a simple reminder. over the last 30 years the housing prices have gone skyrocket while wages pretty much stagnated. The "middle class" is a boomer invention and now it's inevitably crumbling before our eyes. Their kids and grandsons won't live comfy lives like they did, they'll struggle to live paycheck from paycheck. College bubble, housing bubble, a lot of former middle class will be moulded into impoverished masses with no perspective.

The world will become once again as it was for the most part of human history, a small clique of oligarchs ruling over masses of pispoor peasants. No amount of government regulation will be able to stop the monster known as global hypercapitalism.
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>>38277777
Nice quints, laddy. It looks as though fate has vindicated your argument.
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>>38277216
/t.h.r.e.a.d
there is nothing more to add
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>>38278084
If a company sells out to the state then they will receive the benefits, what happens to the other companies?

The exploitation of resources is an idiotic statement because exploitation, in that context, literally means to acquire resources. That's why you're currently using exploited resources. To argue against the utilisation of resources is idiotic because you're simply asking us to go back into the dark ages. Try to make your own BLT. I guarantee you it'll cost you over a thousand dollars.

Politics should have no bearing on economics, my entire point was that it's irrelevant.

How on earth would avoiding taxation on necessities result in a higher price on necessities? That's just plain false. You'd be taxing luxuries resulting in the luxuries bought by higher income families being taxed for.

The government does not represent public interest, it represents its own interests. Did you want to go to Iraq in 2002?

You're arguing against the government because they're bought off by rich people in America, Lords in the UK or oiligarchs in Russia, and at the same time arguing for more government. Do you understand how idiotic this is?
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>>38278064
do you mean better educated? better access to information?
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>>38278086
And what you're lying about by omission is the fact that as this gap increases somewhat the lowest standard of living rises higher than any communist country and anarchist country in the world.

The poorest in America are RICHER than the poorest 50% of the world.
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>>38278086
That's because everyone is an entitled little shit that thinks they deserve a nice apartment in the most affluent urban neighborhood even though they can't afford it. In more rural areas housing prices are still very low.
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>>38277896
this. if you defend such people you are beyond cucked and need to kill yourself.
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>>38278194
That and ( especially the ones who come from nothing ) genuinely have more raw intelligence.
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>>38278247
the amount of successful people that come from nothing is exactly 0 (in words zero)

at least in my country (Germany)
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>>38278302
Bring in more refugees, you'll be more succesful.
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All the black and white thinking in this thread is awful. A lot of people that hate rich people do so because a lot of rich people often act in a way that exploits the lives of others. The first world in general never truly moved away from slavery, and many rich people do little to give back to a world that they are continuously milking.

That being said, not all rich people actively engage in this sort of activity and engage in a lot of philanthropic work on top of the enterprising that they do to keep the economy churning. At the same time, there are many low class and middle class people that also act in behaviors that involve manipulating others for their own gain.
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>>38278214
there are no jobs/income in rural areas that's why
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>>38277196
Any good books of basic economics?
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>>38278188

>If a company sells out to the state then they will receive the benefits, what happens to the other companies?
Fact that not all companies sell out, allowing them to further their business.

>The exploitation of resources is an idiotic statement because exploitation, in that context, literally means to acquire resources. That's why you're currently using exploited resources. To argue against the utilisation of resources is idiotic because you're simply asking us to go back into the dark ages. Try to make your own BLT. I guarantee you it'll cost you over a thousand dollars.
When I say "exploitation of resources" I meant private corporations using resources for their own good selfishly and getting low tax.

>Politics should have no bearing on economics, my entire point was that it's irrelevant.
Politics are often affected by private interest.

>How on earth would avoiding taxation on necessities result in a higher price on necessities? That's just plain false. You'd be taxing luxuries resulting in the luxuries bought by higher income families being taxed for.
Because you'd have prices raised because it's easier now as there's no tax. Luxuries should be taxed hard, not "to a limited extent".

>The government does not represent public interest, it represents its own interests. Did you want to go to Iraq in 2002?
More like Scandinavia/Germany 2017

>You're arguing against the government because they're bought off by rich people in America, Lords in the UK or oiligarchs in Russia, and at the same time arguing for more government. Do you understand how idiotic this is?
Not more government, more social-economic government intervention. I didn't argue against the government, but against cancerous influences in the government.
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>>38277927
This

/orwGh
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>>38278319
Milton Friedman has an interesting perspective on true free markets. Trump supporters may not like him that much because he was for global free trade however. There's no doubt he was a brilliant economist though.

Free to choose was very popular back in the day.
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>>38277183
Because their greed and malice has fucked up the lives of billions. If they'd part with a large amount of their unneeded wealth, so many problems in the world would be solved.
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>>38278205
Doesn't matter if you're richer than some nigglet in Uganda. You don't live in Uganda, you live in the US. and by US standards you'll be poor.
>>38278214
There's jack shit to do in rural areas. Farming has already become a small niche of work, the whole shit is already taken over by food producing corporations and they'll own more and more land as time goes. Compare it to the rise of latifundia system in ancient Rome if you like. Even more people will flock to big cities, the shit didn't even start yet. Big cities are job factories and at some point you'll have to move to one to get a job, like it or not.

Tiny-ass one room flats with skyrocket rent are our future.
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>>38278336
It's state owned, therefore they cease to exist because the state controls the economy. You're not operating under a capitalist society in this model.

You mean like tobacco farmers keeping all of the good tobacco for themselves? God forbid.

My point exactly, politics and economics should be separated in a free market system. In fact, politics should be heavily limited in favour of mutually benefitial transactions between private individuals.

Then other companies would undercut their price in order to bring in more customers, much like what Aldi and Lidl did in European markets.

Germany opened its boarders to 1,000,000 refugees at its own behest with no public vote. This was not in the interest of the public, and was not democratically decided.

Social economic intervention by the government is the largest cause of economic catastrophy. The only way to counteract cancerous influences in the government, as you call it, is to limit, not increase the power of the government.
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>>38278434
Check your privilege. Ugandan nigglets deserve your money you capitalist scumbag.
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>>38277183
I don't hate all rich people, just the ones that did nothing to earn it.

If you came up with a great idea, or busted your ass starting a company and you're now wealthy, you have my genuine admiration and you deserve every bit of it.

If you've never done anything useful your entire life and are only rich because you inherited a bunch of money, then you can fuck off and die.

Inheritance tax should be 100%.
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Same reason robots hate chads.
Same reason manlets hate men.
Same reason women hate men.

Same reason a PB and J sandwich isn't just peanut butter and bread.
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>>38277183
Not all rich people.
Just the spoiled kids and the parasitic divorced women.
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>>38278464
>inheritance tax should be 100%

So when you earn the $200,000 you'll earn in your life, if you have the capacity to have children you're happy with, already having paid 40% tax on your income, for your government to take it from you instead of your children. In spite of the fact that you'd earned it.

You're literally arguing from a point of jealousy without thinking it through. You're a selfish motherfucker and you're jealous of people that are better than you. It's fucking sad that you can actually think like that, just because your parents were shit and you're lazy.
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I don't hate the rich. I hate the morally bankrupt slavedriving """1%""" because they are responsible for making social mobility in the USA a joke.
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>>38278531
I've never seen someone be so wrong about so many things in such a short span of time.

Jealousy has nothing to do with it. Neither does selfishness. My parents weren't shit, and I'm not lazy.

I simply believe all people should be required to contribute to society in some manner, and that wealth should be earned, not just handed to you.
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>>38278444

>It's state owned, therefore they cease to exist because the state controls the economy. You're not operating under a capitalist society in this model.
So you limit the power of big cooperation and keep the market free.

>You mean like tobacco farmers keeping all of the good tobacco for themselves? God forbid.
I mean like cooperation using natural gas on some countries territory while getting tax cuts.

>My point exactly, politics and economics should be separated in a free market system. In fact, politics should be heavily limited in favour of mutually beneficial transactions between private individuals.
Yes, but the government has to protect the consumer.

>Then other companies would undercut their price in order to bring in more customers, much like what Aldi and Lidl did in European markets.
What ensures that? The government must have some food companies under it and regulated their product prices.

>Germany opened its boarders to 1,000,000 refugees at its own behest with no public vote. This was not in the interest of the public, and was not democratically decided.
I kinda talked about how Germany's social-economics work and not about public interest as whole.

>Social economic intervention by the government is the largest cause of economic catastrophy. The only way to counteract cancerous influences in the government, as you call it, is to limit, not increase the power of the government.
So you limited the influence of the government, and their at the hands of the corporations. Can you really trust private interest to work for the people? Turn economics into some sort of anarchy where if you're not strong enough, you burn out or live low?
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>>38277183
People hate rich people because they envy them.
They're jealous. I know plenty of rich folks. Nicest people around desu if you find the right ones.
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Invasion of Marxist thought in schools and media. People don't know/understand the pareto distribution and how cronyism interferes with the natural churn of the rich to poor and the poor to the rich.
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>>38278591
So what has the government done to have the 100% of citizens' wealth handed to them?

Wealth should be earned, not just handed to you.
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The point isn't for the government to get all of it. The point is to encourage people to spend their money before they die, stimulating the economy, or to donate it to charity so that the government doesn't get it.
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>>38277320
Get fucked commie scum, let me go into the house you just happen to live in and take all the stuff that just happens to be in said house.

Fucking end yourself
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>>38277183
I don't hate the rich, in fact I like the rich in a general sense, but the rich that I have known personally are really shitty and boring people.
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>>38278725
I don't know how to otherwise bring this to you
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>>38278628
It's inherently not free because you're intervening in the market.

Unless, like in Iraq, the country has invaded and forced them to sell out their oil fields, you'll have a situation like in Saudi Arabia where the host country sees many lucrative benefits. It's a mutually benefitial transaction and not exploitation.

Conquest and Colonialism are two very different things to free market capitalism, you've been taught to confuse them.

The government has to do whatever the government wants to do. It is blatantly obvious that the government doesn't care enough about the consumer, Democrat or Republican, so your idea of more government control simply falls flat on its face.

Consumers, if you can convince consumers to vote with their wallets then companies will be forced to pay the lowest fee. If they work together then there's no reason another individual can't come together with other individuals to further undercut the market.

You talked about the German government, I brought up a point which contradicts their interest in the public.

Fundamentally I do not believe people are good natured, but I trust that innovation and greed will lead to people wanting more sales, the best way to ensure more sales is to create a better product at less of a cost increasing the profit margin and reducing the cost making it more appealing to consumers.

That is the the fundamental view underpinning free market capitalism.

What we are effectively arguing is whether we trust the already corrupted government who have literally all the power to legislate in favour of monopolies, or companies who are competing with one another to get consumers but might make monopolies.

You obviously trust some benevolent aspect of government which is unbeknownst to me, whereas I trust the greed of the individual to undercut prices. There is plenty of evidence for the latter, and very little for the former.
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>>38278790
Donate it to charity? But wealth should be earned, not just handed to you.

You want an entirely decadent society with no meaning other than the short term because you yourself are a nihilist who doesn't want children and will not be wise enough to save your money for your children to inheret. That's quite pathetic and selfish.

You are the greatest argument against the good nature of humans.
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>>38278903
>Donate it to charity? But wealth should be earned, not just handed to you.

And charities aren't accumulating wealth, now are they.

>You want an entirely decadent society with no meaning other than the short term

Nope

>you yourself are a nihilist

Nope

>who doesn't want children

I have kids, and I wanted them.

>and will not be wise enough to save your money for your children to inheret.

Wisdom has nothing to do with it. My kids aren't going to inherit anything because I expect them to earn their own way in life.

>That's quite pathetic and selfish.

No, it's good parenting. Rather than just handing my kids money, I'm going to give them the skills to enable them to make money themselves.

Boy, you're really bad at this guessing game.
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>>38278981
You need only look at charities in Africa to see that most of the money disappears mysteriously.

A contradiction isn't an argument.

You're fine with paying 40% of your income and then having the government take more than an additional 40%. Fair enough, that's your own choice. You're free to choose. Allow me the same luxury.

Alternatively, you could give them the skills and the property that you have earned, since you will be dead. But once again, that's your choice.

You're free to do with your money what you want, don't encroach on my freedoms by trying to remove inheritence entirely.
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>>38277216
No they don't. Fuck off commie go back to shilling /pol/
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>>38279033
>You're fine with paying 40% of your income and then having the government take more than an additional 40%.

No one with half a brain pays 40% income tax.

>You're free to do with your money what you want, don't encroach on my freedoms by trying to remove inheritence entirely.

Sorry, that's not how democracy works.
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>>38277183
I only hate trust fundies
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>>38279083
Plenty of people do, particularly in socialist countries. In the United Kingdom before Thatcher's hit on tax the highest bracket was 83% income tax.

This is exactly how democracy works, you want something that I do not want. This number can be extrapolated as a very unscientific explanation as to why there isn't a 100% inheritance tax.

Because, democratically, the majority of people disagree with you. Otherwise, we'd have a 100% inheritance tax now wouldn't we?

Do you enjoy making yourself look stupid?
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>>38277183
No they arent bad people.
But they are sinful
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>>38277440
/leftypol/ thinks that /pol/ only got so big because it fed off losers insecurities so now they are trying to do the same.
They are leftist so they are incapable of realizing that one may hold contrary opinions not because they are losers lashing out but because it I'd there truth.
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>>38277459
But that's a lie. Why do you believe common myths based off Hollywood movies?
A rich kid who makes all the wrong choices will usually end up poor when the father dies and he spends all his money line a retard
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Capitalism can only function when capitalists invest their money efficiently. That hasn't been the case it all for like 20 years at least.
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>>38279241
They invest it very efficiently, just in the wrong countries.
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The wealthy are using globalization and nationalism to build a new neo feudal order
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>>38279082
yes they do fucking idiot have you ever worked once in your life ?
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>>38279255
The free market economy ceases when there is too much inequality
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>>38279205
show me one kid that makes all the wrong choices
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>>38277183

I personally dont hate the rich.

I just dont associate with them.
They face no harships or have any obstacles to cross in their lifetime since they are pretty much on easy mode.

I just found they have no personality at all or character. Ive had wealthy friends and known wealthy people before.
They are all just... snobby and dont really understand how life truly works, they have their opinions on things without seeing both sides if the coin. They also miss the concept of being humble. Which is fine, its just annoying to hear the "why dont poor people just buy more money" argument.

Ill give you an example. Bot very good one but ehh.

Friend and i both bought skyrim and would compete to see who would level up faster and have skills at 100 faster and what not. Well he always won and rubbed it in how he was better at every videogame. Come to find out he was on the easyest setting on all the games.
I normally picked adept or hard difficulty because its more fun.

But he basically bragged about everything even tho he was on easy mode all along. Thats what a rich kid is like.
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I hate them because they are in the higher echelons of the social order, making them normalfags
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>>38277183

The truth is that people who hate the rich don't actually hate the rich. They just hate people richer than themselves.
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>>38279527
Most people tend to kick the ones below them and buckle down to the ones above
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>>38279387
>they have their opinions on things without seeing both sides if the coin
That's just how people do in general. Self-awareness and objective reasoning aren't traits of many.

But yeah i agree, most of them are just bland and shallow.
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>>38279611
Idk man. In my personal experience poorer people tend to have more reasoning skills. I figure rich kids get what they want when they want to they dont have to make any compromises or arent used to being told no.

This is just by personal experience but when i worked with the rich idiot he would get an idea and stick to it because clearly he was superior to all of us. Even tho it was wrong and stupid. He would argue it to the death. because he was apparently more educated than us lamen folk he felt as if he was better.
He was pretty useless without his money. At everything.
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>>38279387
he beat me at a video game because he was smarter than me and i didnt know the rules of the competition

fuck rich ppl i hate them they beat me at video games also they never have any problems in their lives

they live till they're 1,000 and nobody in their family ever gets ill or dies. fucking rich ppl are rich ppl i hate them fucking rich ppl

t. autistic 14 year old.
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>>38277183

Hatred? No.

A small percentage of them would happily put me into slavery, if they could.

But they can't! so they figured out another way-- debt slavery. That one is more easily avoided, but I look around and see those chains on everyone else. Someone literally owns these people, if they miss any payments, the illusion of their independence quickly vanishes.

In the 70-80's, I could've bought a house for 70-80k.

Now? I need over a quarter million dollars.

Meanwhile, wages have remained pretty much the same since then.

So the price of everything has increased dramatically, while my earning power has remained the same. That's no fucking accident. That was done on purpose.

I'm not jealous, I'm pissed off for a valid reason.
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>>38279082
Yeah they do, iv browsed pol since ukraine crisis and you can fuck right off
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>>38279793
That's called inflation and is created by the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing strategy.
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>>38279736
I never said he was rich. I used the scenario as a comparison.
Its fine that he won. He just showed it off even tho he was pretty much on easy mode.

I never said i hated them, i just dont associate with them because in my personal experience they are either or a combination of bland, shallow, dont have charachter or personality, not very bright and they can only think one direction at a time.

Im sure they get sick but being wealthy affords you better health care options. So im fairly certain they die less.


In sorry i triggered you, try to read like a big boy next time.
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>>38279834

And the fed is privately owned.

I remember when that fifteen billion went missing, and they basically told the government to fuck off, lol.

But see, it's not just the US. I'm a canadian citizen.

Truly wealthy people aren't constricted by borders, they have their hands in everything--- which is smart for them, you have money -- invest it.

You run a corporation? you're beholden to the share holders and will employ whatever dirty tactics you can to turn a profit. Oftentimes, this translates into outsourcing the problems a profit-obsessed conglomerate cause unto society.
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>>38279570

It's not the case where I live, but I don't live in the US, but the North-West of the UK. People hate wealth and success here. If you have money then your choices are to either be socially ostracised and hated, or alternatively, just pretend you're poor. The latter is what most people around here do. You've got the kids of doctors and architects pretending they're some poor oppressed victim fighting the good fight against the "evil rich" who very often have less wealth than their own families. People who have never had money problems caused by anything other than their own idiocy and poor financial decisions demand the general taxpayer, including people who are actually poor, pay for freebies for them. Then their doctor and architect parents vote for a bunch of taxpayer-funded freebies for their spoiled brats because lttle Timmy can only afford one iPhone a month which means he's facing dire poverty.

Though in practice it is often people kicking those below them whilst petending that those below them are above them, so maybe it just manifests itself in different ways. The hatred by these rich people for people even richer than them is truly staggering though, so we could both be right.
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>>38277183
It is because we view other humans as animals, as inferiors. In a professional enviroment it is more obvious and rich people have the resources to treat us as the inferior animals that we are while we watch at them with hate and jelaousy.
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>>38277183
Jealousy and only jealousy. Why don't you poorfags just buy more money baka
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>>38280016
That's because British wealth pyramid is a thing on its own. The gape between old money gentry and new money plebs is so big that they virtually have nothing to do with each other.

In other countries new money enjoys status and prestige, while in Britain this is generally not the case. Thus the new money are stuck with other plebs.
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i used to be poor and am now ""rich"" through my own hard work. i fucking loathe poor people now.
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>>38277876
You're naive as fuck if you believe this. Most governments hold up monopolies by making the climate harder for competitors. This is how the entire county works in places like Russia where the market is not at all free. America is pretty bad because lobbying but it's a hell of a lot better than a completely hand chosen oligarch class. We see outsiders have success all the time in the US Cuckerberg, Musk, ect and even small businesses are getting a lot of support lately. We have Way fewer people living under the poverty line than any other country of comparable size with a more controlled market too.
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>>38277183
Because a lot of them push the narrative that they become rich because of their hard work/superior intellect, when its a fact that most of the upper class where already born in the money.

If it wasnt for the media, the left would still be a movement of workers fighting for equal opportunity in life for everyone, you are lucky they have become a bunch of retards worrying about race and gender identity while Mr. Goldberg laughs in his penthouse in Manhattan.
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>>38277183
jealousy, mainly
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>>38280350
>Because a lot of them push the narrative that they become rich because of their hard work/superior intellect, when its a fact that most of the upper class where already born in the money.
This.
I've known a lot of faggots in the their 20s trying to present themselves as super independent and grown up when in fact their cars and apartments were given to them by their rich parents, not to mention all the connections and job opportunities because of their families.
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today's rich haven't played fair by the virtues of hard work and good business. they own the game, they own the govt., and now it's rigged in their inbreeding nepotistic favor. look at the wealth disparity. it's crony capitalism. it's being rich because it was your birthright to be rich at the expense of others. and they are trying to manipulate you every chance they get into accepting this.

if you don't hate that you're an establishment cuck who is just the kind of workforce fodder they want you to be. congratulations faggot.
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>>38280350
>>38280408
>the narrative that they become rich because of their hard work/superior intellect
Just because there's a few lucky rich kids doesn't mean that's not true. giving up because someone has it easier than you is the worst thing you can do - literal nigger logic.

> left would still be a movement of workers fighting for equal opportunity in life for everyone
this is true, it's sad. people are freaking about a "muslim ban" while lobbyists are passing horrible anti-consumer laws left and right.
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>>38277407
Yes I agree to it the same way a slave agreed to a "mutually beneficial transaction". You're a fucking retard, I'd die of hunger or froze on the streets if I didn't agree to the term of the capitalist pigs.I've got no other choice.
>>38277482
I would love to, but sadly there are no more kolchozes.
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>>38277440
technically they're anarcho-communists
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>>38277183
So, people who want people with power and influence to not use it for selfish means are bad?
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>>38280565
>>38280565
> few lucky rich kids

Ok, lets start. The top 5 billionaires in 2017 according to Forbes:

5) Mark Elliot Zuckerberg:
>"His father taught him Atari BASIC Programming in the 1990s, and later hired software developer David Newman to tutor him privately"
The case of every child in the world, the oportunity of having a software developer to teach you at your home...in your early teens

4) Amancio Ortega: born in middle class spain. Third child, parents where humble. Left highschool when he was 14.
This dude HAD a humble origin

3) Jeff bezos:
>"Bezos was born in 1964 as Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen to Jacklyn (nee Gise) and Ted Jorgensen in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His maternal ancestors were settlers who lived in Texas, and over the generations acquired a 25,000-acre (101 km2 or 39 miles2) ranch near Cotulla"
> "As of March 2015, Bezos was among the largest landholders in Texas"

2) Warren Buffett:
> "He was the second of three children and the only son of Leila (nee Stahl) and Congressman Howard Buffett"
> son of a congressman

1) Bill Gates:
> "He is the son of William H. Gates(born 1925) and Mary Maxwell Gates (1929-1994)"
> William H. Gates: retired American attorney
> Mary Maxwell Gates: "Mary Maxwell Gates (July 5, 1929 - June 10, 1994) was an American businesswoman,
and served 18 years (1975-1993) on the University of Washington board of regents.
She was the first female president of King Countys United Way,
the first woman to chair the national United Ways executive committee where she served most notably with IBMs CEO, John Opel,
and the first woman on the First Interstate Bank of Washingtons board of directors".


So, 4/5...."few" my ass
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>>38279205
Dan Bilzerian.
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