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Should people be hurt for having "disgusting thoughts"

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Should people be hurt for having "disgusting thoughts" that will never be translated into actions?

Can this punishment for thoughtcrimes be objectively (rather than emotionally) justified?
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>>38272733

Yes.

Oreganobeans
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>>38272804
Justify it objectively then.

Let's hear some solid arguments.
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>>38272819

Think of it like breeding what you don't want out of a animal. Like breeding dogs. You don't want this trait. Keep killing the puppies that have the negative trait until you get the good ones. Keep doing this until they are what is needed.
People with degenerate thoughts can be treated the same way once the technology comes to find those thoughts.
Then you rinse and repeat until the population has minimal traces of that negative thought pattern as well as reducing or destroying what is creating those thoughts.
The end. there you go.
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>>38272733
you cant read peoples though so this will be a literal witch hunt. And even if you could it would be a complete dystopian shithole
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>>38272856
So you are advocating the killing of hundreds of millions of people over thoughtcrimes, interesting. Tell me, should the countless victims of child molestation who developed pedophilic thoughts because of their abuser, that will only remain thoughts, also be massacred? Right after reporting their abuser or when they turn 18?

Thoughts aren't genetic so your argument is the rambling of a murderous psychopath. Try again.
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>>38272856
How do you differentiate between someone who has degenerate thoughts and someone who is tangentially thinking about degeneracy?
Ironic process theory states that attempts to suppress certain thoughts make them more likely to surface.

For example look at pick related and try and try not to think about sex.
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>>38272924

yes they should.
This isn't about the feelings of a small minority of people this is about the future of the human race.
If this is truly what "the people" want to be illegal. Now that you state what law you are focusing on. Pedophiles. If "the people" want pedos gone and dead then this is the only way to break the cycle. to actually break the cycle not let it go on and on.
But (((they))) want it to go on and on don't (((they))) ?

And thank you. I take that as a compliment.
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>>38272959
>that level of psychopathic autism
cringed hard
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>>38272948

If "The People" want that to be illegal then rip it from the world. If you kill enough people over something and make a public spectacle about it then they usually stop doing that.
This isn't a speed run. This can go on for 100 years or more. Just keep building that until its instinctual.
A few million deaths a year is nothing in the grand scale of things for some finer tuning of things.
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>>38272983

Good. I hope you enjoyed it.
Remember where you are yet anonkun?
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>>38272856
>>38272959
>>38273002
>I want to murder innocent people
You're crazy.
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>>38272948
stop being a faggot and post more of her (male).
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>>38272733
I have a lot of disgusting thought and they torture me, I'm a NEET shut-in partly because I can't deal with the way I think and feel at times, I'm already punishing myself for these thoughts.
But no, I don't believe someone should be punished for their thoughts, only for their actions because they have an effect on the world while your thoughts are yours alone.
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>>38273014
>Remember where you are yet anonkun?
Yes, on 4chan, where expressing your desire to kill people with "degenerate thoughts" makes you look like a freak.
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>>38273025

Innocence is determined by whatever graces the populace deems so.
Those faces wouldn't be so innocent in the greater communities eye after a few years of creative expelling of the unwanted.
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>>38273002
>If you kill enough people over something and make a public spectacle about it then they usually stop doing that.
i'm glad we don't have christianity now since the romans killed all those christcucks and jews
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>>38273025
you're on the cesspit on the internet faggot

the shit he said is tame compared to most
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>>38273055

I have no personal desire to kill anyone anon.
I have not stated so.
Is your mind so cobbled with nonsense that you can't see we are playing with a imaginative scenario here?
Ha. Okay.
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>>38273094
>I have no personal desire to kill anyone anon.
So you're just an angry manlet, got it.
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>>38273082

Different tools in different times.
It is only a fantasy of a thought but we possess much more creative and larger scale ways to ensure the end of life now don't we compared to ancient times?

>bioweapons, nukes, eugenics, bla bla
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>>38273106

I've never stated any personal "feels" in this matter anonkun.
Your ability to troll is lethargic and bores me.
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>>38273126
>I've never stated any personal "feels" in this matter
Then why not just kill these hundreds of millions of innocent people if "feels" don't matter to you?
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>>38273174

>feeble attempts to twist words

Very fake news.
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>>38272733
no, absolutely not.
We all have dark fucked up thoughts.

But thats apart of the test, is to refuse those thoughts.

The way I have come to deal with it is religion. I dont really believe in god, but i do believe in the Devil, i imagine that these random trigger thoughts of degeneracy are being planted in my head by the devil. Trying to seduce me into a life of sin, I need to have the strength to reject those thoughts, it makes me stronger mentally.
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>mfw not an hour goes by where I'm not fantasizing about killing and torturing people but I'm a nicer person than most normies
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>>38273317
Same here except I believe in God.
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>>38273353
>mfw if people knew what I think about they would lynch me
I am the most innocent outgoing person they know
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>>38272856
>thoughts are genetic
LMAO how stupid one nigger can be?
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>>38272733
sauce?

this saucefag is not original
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>>38272733
No, I want to ruin every stuck up Stacy I see walking down the street, but I shouldn't be punished when I don't act on it
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>>38275797
seconded

oriof
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Well, the burden of proof is on you, good luck
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More study needs to be done on the subject of pedophilia to really categorize it as a mental illness rather than a "sexual orientation", a la gender identity (dysphoria being a mental illness). If you correctly idedntify the neurological or psychological constructs that contribute to pedophilia we can more precisely prevent further sex crimes and perhaps reduce the amount of pedophiles on the whole through comprehensive medical and theraputic treatment.

They are not welcome in society and everything should be done to curb thier desires and reduce thier numbers, as it should be for any profound mental illness, gender dysphoria, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, etc.

Loli porn is degenerate and should not be legal, I believe non-pedophiles become attracted to Loli through h-manga, very similarly to this trap pgenomana, but to completely remove it from circulation and ban it entirely is highly impractical and only draconian nanny states like the UK have done this.
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>>38276170
Phenomena*

I really butchered that
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>>38272733
Thought crimes are victimless crime, a crime without a victim should not be a crime in my opinion,for me to consider something to be morally wrong someone has to be hurt in someway, Be it financial or physical.

>Can this punishment for thoughtcrimes be objectively (rather than emotionally) justified?

If you could somehow prove that arresting someone for a thought crime reduces the specific crime they would have committed with absolute certainty then you could, but the entire idea of a thought crime stems from emotion itself as there is no victim rather just a prejudiced against the person thoughts.

To me the concept of a thought crime is terrifying and the idea that government could enforce is even more terrifying, When you look how governments around the world have been chipping away at individuals rights over the years I imagine the same would happen with thoughts, yet no one would care just like with individual rights because it's done slowly, were like a frog in a pot of boiling water, we notice sudden changes but don't pay attention small incremental consistent changes.
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>>38272733

There's an entire anime exploring the society implications of persecuting people based on thoughtcrime. Psycho-Pass. It legit explores the issue in-depth.
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>>38276170
>wants to stop a disease that can be spread just by viewing manga

lol, okay dude. "anti-pedos", if you could call them that, i think a better word would be "ethically challenged idiots".
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>>38276170

You make the mistake of thinking it can't be both.
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>>38276488
It's in my watchlist, desu.
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bump

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>>38278019
this

oreitowg
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>have severe OCD
>have had uncontrolled, horrible thoughts night ans day since I was a child
>after years of therapy I know how to live with myself, but still cannot stop these thoughts

In a world of thought crime, what would happen to people like me? Would I be thrown in the loony bin? Lobotomized? Incarcerated like everyone else? Executed?
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>>38279954
What kinds of thoughts?
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>>38272733
emily doesn't want her photo posted bro =[
nice dubs, checked
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>>38279996
Usually some combination of homicide, torture, mutilation and necrophilia, but I'll also get shit about me dying horribly or paranoid shit like people betraying my trust or physically hurting me.
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>>38272733
>>38275797
>>38280919
what photo?
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