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Women would unironically rather freeze their eggs and have a child at 35+ (with all the risks this implies) before dating someone who isn't Chad.
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>w-women aren't shallow!!!
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>>38164929
They don't want the successful men because they're STEM grads. Nobody is good enough for the lib arts major except. her cat Snuggle Booty
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nothing can match up to these new super women, who could be their partner???

until we're able to create a super specimen, 8ft tall, Anunaki human being, i don't think anyone will be able to live up to their standards.

you need to be deep in the asshole of eugenics to satisfy their standards.
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>>38164960
>N-not all women are shallow!
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I like how this is still framed as misogyny and a problem that affects females

Never mind the uneducated men with no help, no chances at a good job and doomed to be lower middle class their entire lives

The real tragedy is that poor wimminz can't have their children
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>>38164929
This is the problem with hookup culture.

>Woman gets on the cock carousel
>Fucks a few Chads and suddenly thinks that means she can date Chad.
>Won't date anyone lower than Chad because she falsely believes that just because a few Chads would fuck that means they would date and settle down with her.
>30s hit
>WHY WONT CHAD DATE ME!?
>Refuses to drop her standards hoping some Chad will come sweep her off her feet.
>Mid to late 30s suddenly comes to the realization that Chad won't date her.
>Lowers her standards to he must make more than me and be at least 6'0 feet tall with a 7 inch cock.
>Ends up dying alone as a cat woman because she felt like her standards are "reasonable".
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>>38164929
'Leftover generation' of career women are freezing their eggs 'because they can't find similarly successful men who are 8/10+'

fixed that title up
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>>38165064
This
I'm saving up to buy a gun to kill myself with
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>>38164929
Women's standards rise when they become successful financially, educationally or professionally because those are the things they value ... unfortunately for them, guys don't give a damn about their partner's prestigious career. This means those career women no longer consider the tradesman or the teacher as partner-material but the doctors and lawyers will only wife them if the woman was already good enough anyway.
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>>38164929
>Women would unironically rather freeze their eggs and have a child at 35+ (with all the risks this implies) before dating someone who isn't Chad.
Should I be surprised? After learning of womans true nature, I've lost all attraction to them. 2D girls from now all t b h.
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>>38164929
w-woman aren't materialistic!!!
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>>38165140
Imagine how high the standards of these career women are. They would probably only date the CEO.
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>>38165064

Reminds me of that 1 in every 4 homeless people are women article.

They completely fucking forget who makes up the other 3.
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>Women need to be put into positions of power
>Masculinity is toxic and needs to be discouraged in workplaces
>Universities need to be accepting more women than men
>Modern women deserve to be promoted over men to balance out male dominated fields
>Why can't I find successful men anymore?
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ITT: buttmad autistic manchildren NEETs who are raging about women choosing to rather be single moms than date them.
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I just can't give a shit. I'm trying to care. I only care enough to make this post. Why don't I care?
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>>38165140
This.

Women want successful men so they think being successful is extremely attractive, but men really don't care at all. Men mostly want a woman who is physically attractive, loyal and nurturing. I doubt career success is even in the top 10 things men care about in a partner. If anything, it's fairly emasculating to most men when they aren't the bread winner.
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>>38165280
i don't see anyone raging, i actually see some civil discourse here.
that's a really nice try though.

we know what raging on r9k looks like, it has something to do with REEE and normie.
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>>38164929
If they couldn't get Chad at 25 or 30 they sure as shit aren't going to get him at 35 or 40.
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Why should I marry some subhuman incel who would probably commit domestic violence against me? I'd rather be single.
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>>38165237
this
Feminization of modern culture is absolutely poisonous to a society. America had its run. I'll probably move to australia maybe.
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>>38165408
why should you take any risks?? why would a woman ever take a risk? they're completely 100% safe at all times with all their safety nets.

being a single catlady is the road that is being paved out for you.
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>>38165408
>Why should I marry some subhuman incel? I'd rather be single.
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>>38165408
Why should I marry some used up whore who slept around? I didn't go get a master's degree to get with some old slut who thinks she is good enough to date me because of my income. Virgin wife or bust.
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threads like these make me want to kill myself.

But I won't, it's just raw pain.

women will not settle.
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>>38165408
don't cry when you're 43 and alone with your 8 cats and nobody wants your mouldy eggs then
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>>38165408
yes don't have children good goya
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>>38165372
It's not surprising anymore? It's like if I told you kids in africa are starving. Yes, it's a problem. But you've already heard it a million times, so the shock factor is lost and now it's just something that no longer holds any meaning. Women whining about xyz is the same thing. It's such a common occurrence that you just stop giving a shit.
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>>38165408
Why are all of these people taking such obvious b8? You disappoint me 4chan...
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Do men even care if a woman they date has a successful career?
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>>38165540
are you just now discovering that people fall for bait or do you need to keep doing it 1,000 more times?
you're just shitting up the board, congrats.
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>>38165544
not one single iota because we're all gunning under the assumption that we have to hack it alone and have too much pride to depend on someone, especially if your parents force you out at 18.
we're not like women where our plan B from age 12 is to find a guy to support us, we won't ever need support, if we do, we just commit crimes.
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That's smart. Yuyu
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>>38165544
No, I personally don't care. I'm financially stable so it's not even on my radar tbqh.
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We've hit weird levels where a woman being single in her 30's makes the news. However instead of being ridiculed they are getting sympathy

Women like this can't get with their dream man because they fact they will only settle for their perfect prince charming and won't settle for less is a humongous red flag with fine print that informs you she's likely to leave your ass when she doesn't feel satisfied with you anymore.
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>>38165544
I do. I dated a girl in college who was just there to find a husband and settle down. took a year and a half for her to figure out I wasn't interested in getting married. she dumped me and married up in less than a year after she broke up with me, poor sod.

I need to be with someone who isn't just looking to be a leech, someone who is independent and has their own place and bank account. I make enough to buy a house and provide for a wife and family easily, but I'm not going to.
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>>38165779
They still won't have pity sex with you.
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>>38165904
we already know pity sex doesn't count, so that's meaningless.

>>38165836
yeah, you care defensively, it doesn't turn you on. don't try to rationalize it.
a guy's career turns a woman on. men and women look at 2 completely different sets of preferences.
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>>38164960
>>38165041
While i get what you're saying it doesn't make sense in this context.
If it were a shallow decision like "women are freezing their eggs till pretty boy population rises and more become available" it'd work. But they're making an informed and well thought out opinion of not entering a relationship where they'll either have to be career work hours bread winning and child rearer or drop the job and the cashflow and just be a child rearer. If their partner were as successful then it would at least mean they wouldn't lose their home or go into massive debt if she had to take maternity leave.
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>>38164929
Do not care. just don't get bitch like that yourself
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>>38166004
Well maybe she shouldn't have gone to college and instead married young to an older gentleman when their youth/beauty was most valuable. For what purpose does she need a degree when men will gladly scoop them up at age 18 (if attractive enough) and give them the housewife life she'd be better off with? Degrees are for attracting women, not men (generally).
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>>38164929
Does this surprise anyone? You are talking about women here. They literally fuck up everything they touch.
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>>38165836
>bank account
if you think a she would want a ""shared"" account you're dumber than you look
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>>38166004
Also adding onto what I said earlier

http://journals.lww.com/joem/Citation/2016/09000/Chronic_Disease_Risks_From_Exposure_to_Long_Hour.2.aspx
Letting women work is literally killing them.
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>>38164929
To me, now all Chad means is a good man.

I mean less men are reproducing because of reasons obvious here, so why complain when women do the same?
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>>38166004
What if they realized blue collars are also people?

This isn't telling women to date deadbeats. But for these women anything less than a masters degree man making 100k yearly isn't even human.

So yes, it is very much a case of retarded standards.
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>>38164929
>women continue to prove they only want to date up

whats new? a hell of a lot are going to be cat ladys now that less guys are going to college

Maybe they should follow advice they give to men
Lower your standards
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>>38166274
The issue is the money.
Lets say they need a $100k income to survive. Things like loans, car payments, college debt, home, etc. are already set. If she has to drop her job for some time is a $40k construction worker going to be able to take that brunt without both of them going into debt?
>>38166248
I'm not saying its the smartest thing but given their position in life its one of the better choices they could make.
>>38166171
Self-fufillment meme. Them being successful now makes them feel good. Again, not the best choice but for where they're at the choice to not marry below a certain pay-grade is fairly well thought out.
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>>38165544
Kek my dad did excellent in school, has a great career and is dating someone who didnt go to college and who works at a min wage job. Now they dont live together, because this isn't my mom we're talkin bout (divorced). But i can safely say that the attraction that he has for her has nothing to do with financial success
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>>38166423
>has nothing to do with
no shit it fucking doesn't. people just play stupid around it because they don't like inequality.
men have to have the career. women butted us out of the way, now we can't even be attractive to women, because women want our careers.

it's all just massive retardation on a large scale, huge pissing contest.
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>>38166388
Then maybe the guy can step up so she can return earlier, or they can reduce their costs

If the only way she wants children is with an extremely high achieving male who can entirely provide for both while she takes time away from both, then tell me why would this loaded guy pick her over a younger girl who is content with being a stay at home mom?

If they only want the top of males (because let's be honest, they also don't pay much mind to similar guys if they aren't attractive) then they should expect that only a few of them will be married.

People have been having happy lives and children even with mild financial problems. Maybe they should start considering less educated men exist and can make good parents and husbands too.
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>>38165529
Kids dying in Africa aren't a problem... It's a godsend.
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>>38166521
>then why would they pick them over younger women
They won't and don't hence them having issues with that right now. This doesn't erase the fact its not a smart option for them.
And before we go in circles again "inb4 they should have just married young and became housewives then". That ship has sailed already they're just taking the options they got left as do we all.
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>>38166670
But they have a very clear option. Marry a man that they enjoy being with even if he is of less status.

Saying I only want a man who makes x yearly just reinforces the men are success objects mentality.
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>>38165079
Jesus Christ. This only applies to <1% of women. Why don't you try and find decent women instead of focusing on the sluts, and then wondering why the sluts aren't interested in your fat smelly ass.
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>>38164929
>dAIlY mAiL
Anyone who takes this seriously does not deserve to reproduce.
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>>38166794
>decent women
Lol.
The difference between a decent woman and a slut is that the slut is honest.
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>>38166794
i'd hate to bust your bubble but the decent women are married long before 30.
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more like women realise the road to partner/attending/CEO is paved on working 14 hours a day for years and years.

waking up at 12 am to answer phone calls from gooksville.

going into the office at 3 am because some client needs something done stat.

feminism just realised success is found in the mire of the martyrdom that is the male's innate drive for superiority/dominance.

and they're kinda like "oh fuck .. is this what we fought for?"
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>>38166840
Do you live in West Bumfuck or something? Fewer and fewer women are getting married before 30.
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>>38166830
>The difference between a decent woman and a slut is that the slut is honest.
>>38166840
>decent women are married long before 30.
That's fake and you know it. Saying it over and over again won't make it true.
Whenever I am bored, I come on this board to laugh at you guys. I too, am a kissless virgin, but I don't blame that on women, I blame it on myself and I am actually putting in the effort to improve myself. How many people on this board can say the same thing?
It makes me angry that you can so easily shift blame onto a whole group of people based solely on their genitals. It's plain sexism. Unless you're 13 years old, you should have grown out of the "all girls suck" stage.
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>>38166783
Its matters little if it reinforces that mentality or not its still a more viable option that will yield a better outcome.
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>>38164929
whats the leftover generation? sounds like something i can eat
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>>38166884
>Saying it over and over again won't make it true
oh the [Fe]ny
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>>38166878
>Do you live in West Bumfuck or something? Fewer and fewer women are getting married before 30.
few and fewer women are being decent these days
>>38166884
women are literally incapable of pairbonding after having more than 5 partners, theres a peer reviewed study on it but i cbf finding it
shouldn't take much effort though
I hope your response is a pasta though.
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>>38166890
You know what is the most sensible option, though? Being alone, because children and relationships are financially draining.

But there is more to life than money and these women feel lonely, yet they won't even consider good people because they don't fit into their lists of requirements.

What is so bad about the plumber, the electrician, the nurse? Why do they only want the engineer, the medic and the banker?

At the end of it it is this fucking garbage money worshipping culture that is making both men and women unhappy and further and further apart. I hope society fucking collapses in my lifetime.
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>more women becoming obsessed about career
>more women are becoming depressed
really activates my almonds
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>>38166932
>peer reviewed study
top kek. Who reviewed it, breitbart?
> i cbf finding it
Code for: "It doesn't exist"
Listen honey, looking at bar graphs posted by anons on /r9k/ does not count as research, okay?
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>>38166940
>>38166890
Also as an interesting tidbit there is a book about this called "settling for mr good enough" that talks about this mentality.
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>>38166964
>peer reviewed study
>top kek. Who reviewed it, breitbart?
that's not how it works, you dumb humanities cuckold

I don't believe you about being a neet virgin whos working on improving himself. You're a roastie getting toastie.
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>>38166940
You make it sound like you can just slam the brake on payments here. If you somehow have to reduce a lifestyle from $100k to $40k you have to wait out essentially all outstanding payment and debt to do so. That will take a decade or so. They'd still need those frozen eggs and the like which again brings it back around to yield and end result. If they can land someone in their bracket they won't have to wait to +45 years old for children and they won't have to make these massive cutbacks and they won't have to deal with financial stress. Theres nothing inherently wrong with blue collar or middle class people its just that when it comes to their bracket they'd be a heavy detriment.
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>>38167020
If you are financially literate (and you should be if you're making 100k yearly) you can assume a pregnancy with reduced income just fine.

Plus I don't know how it is in America but maternity leaves are a thing.

Again it's certainly not impossible. But obviously why settle for that when you can aim for the 200k a year lawyer that can make you not work another day again? Oh woops, the lawyer chose the 21 year old sweetheart, how unlucky.
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>>38167088
Maternity leaves are a thing but they can be, and often are at that bracket, unpaid.
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>>38165419
It's just as bad, if not worse here in Australia. Move to Vietnam or something.
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>>38167173
Again, if you're making that much and not retarded you can assume a maternity on a smaller income.

It's really not a excuse to not have children or give up on men.
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>>38165419
Australia got hit with the uglystick harder than most. Best bet is traditional backwoods in SEA region.
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>>38165419
>>38167317

-. bluepilled

Australia is bad, the entire world is bad. SEA is gynocentric and misandric too.
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>>38166932
>he believes in /pol/ memes of the old traditional days of decent women
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>>38164929
I'd rather play Overwatch than date a woman 3bh
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>>38166840
>decent women
I hate to break it to you kid but there is no such thing.

Women are now liberated and this is their true nature. They have revealed who they really are. If you trust them you're not only hopelessly naive, but stupid too.
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>>38167384
I said BACKWOODS SEA region. IE the tiny villages where traditional living and values still thrive.
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>>38164929
That's really creepy. They could just adopt a kid.
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>>38165375
Speak for yourself. I don't give a rotten fuck about nurturing or 'nice' anymore as long as she can pay her own way instead of being a financial burden
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>>38167412
It's more rewarding these days
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>>38167412
>I would rather play a bad game than bother with women
That should teach you something about women
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>>38166171
I'll be honest, dude, that sounds like an incredibly dull life. I don't know that I could stand just staying home forever and doing nothing. I enjoy my weekends, but I also enjoy what I do at work too.

If I was a chick, I'd have probably gone the career route too.
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Yeah because you guys are a great catch right. God forbid if a woman has standards.
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>>38168425
>spinsters can't get a man
>poor women, why are men so childish?
>men can't get a woman
>lower ur standards!!
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>>38166274
>blue collars
>people

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP IT YOU'RE KILLING ME AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>38166794
>only applies to <1% of woman
Fucking kek
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>>38164929
I thought we need a women quota because there are way more successful men (CEOs, Managers etc) than women?
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>>38166884
If you are a kissless virgin how are you so familiar with the dating patterns of women?
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Women need to realize by wanting to enter the male workforce and demanding equality in job placement they cut the number of suitable partners in half.Add that to the obesity epidemic,birth control fucking up your chances to have children down the line,and the rise of gay culture and no wonder they cant find a decent man anymore.
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>>38165544

Somewhat, she has to at least have a stable, non minimum wage job
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From the perceptive of ambitious women, we non-Chads are not worth anything.

They don't want our defective genes.

It's kind of hard not to hate women when they polarise the situation so much.

To them we are basically an enemy.
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>>38165544
A lot of guys simply want one that was successful enough that she wasn't a prostitute, stripper, or something like that.
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>>38165064

The problem is not the lack of professional successfulness man. There are plenty of those.

The problem is that these women want their successful man to also be a 6'4 and sculptured like a Greek statue and the reality is that they are way below the league of such a man.
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>>38165779
>However instead of being ridiculed they are getting sympathy

The article is written, published and read by women. All the women in the same demographic.
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>>38165408
>Why should I marry some subhuman incel who would probably commit domestic violence against me?
No one is telling you to do that. They're telling you to quit whining about it.
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>>38165544
Some do. The losers wont really mind dating a fellow loser, the successful ones don't care if she drags them down a little bit since it's a drop in the bucket, and most don't mind one that's more successful than themselves provided that her job doesn't eat up all her time etc. But the guys that are barely hanging on to a decent lifestyle might be averse to dating someone who will be a significant drain.
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>>38167753
Never thought I'd see someone on here who agrees with me. It's not the 1950s anymore...I don't want some leech housewife who sits at home and bakes cookies and thinks up creative new ways to spend my money.

News Flash: wages are stagnant and you now need two people working in a household just to get by. That bitch better be career driven and make some decent money.
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>>38170078
>wages are stagnant and you now need two people working in a household just to get by. That bitch better be career driven and make some decent money.

Perhaps that's true if you work on 7/11
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Why do you think that people don't have children until their 40s?

They have been told their whole life they need to find the right person instead of settling for someone adequate in reach. Men have this problem too a lot of guys at work are normies about 30 and still not married either and yeah women are to blame but men have high standards too
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>>38165064
There are plenty of uneducated men earning big bucks from working skilled trades, but women don't want even them because they don't want to be known as the woman in her friend circle who married an electrician or plumber rather than a doctor or hedge fund manager.
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>>38165544
No, what's important is that she understands her roll in the relationship.
Take care of the home, children and remain attractive.
Also she needs to sign a prenup. No fault divorce is not something to trifle with.
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Imagine a clumsy nurse holding a tray of woman eggs, tripping, and dropping them into a vat of semen. Imagine that.
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>>38170206
30 year old guys don't have high standards, they're rejects.
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>>38170298
Yeah I love when nurses carry a fucking PLATE OF EGGS and hospitals have VATS OF SEMEN
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>>38165544
As long as she doesn't drain my money I don't care if she works at all.
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Career men are already married is the problem. Most men and women don't want to slave away for 60 hours a week just so they can own a vacation home. These women chose their career and being women can't have a family as a result. They can't find anyone as a result of that. For men we can have a family and a career since we don't get pregnant. Women have to choose. Tough shit.
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>>38170301
That's the most retarded statement I have read today. Guys at 30 are in their prime and fucking bitches left and right.
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>>38165544
If I was successful I would if only because it means I get fucked less in a divorce
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>>38169593
This.
Basically someone told them a lie,
A big lie
The lie was "you can have it all"
But this is false, you can't have it all
you have to choose, be successful career women or successful mom, but not both.
Why would a successful guy want a busy women anyways? Like it or not, someone has to raise the kids, get to know them, drive them to events, serve food.
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>>38166843
t. Jordan Peterson
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>>38164929
so that they dont have to sacrifice theyre carriers because of mysogonistic american capitalism
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>>38164929
Because men don't want them. Not because they're successful, because they're either married, not into marriage, or not interested in them because they're awful succubi.
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>>38166794
Nah, it's fairly common. The cock casueal does damage to your ability to pair one, period.
The normie ones you think of "settle" for the beta bucks but still fuck Chad on the side after a few years, never turkey bonding with thier kids or husband
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>>38170604
>turkey bonding

Not sure what that is but sounds important.
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>>38167020
>45+
I like how they pretend getting preggo is the main problem to fix later in life, never mind they ARE going to have reduced engry levels for raising kids, and thier parents will be too old or dead to help at all.
And the reduced energy levels are directly related to the hormonal changes. Almost as if it is highly unnatural to have kids that late
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>>38165064
this

the "wage gap" they all bitch about is more than overcompensated for by the amount of females getting office jobs with meme degrees because of diversity quotas.
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>>38170699
i know that normies are retarded but holy fuck
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>>38170699
God modern female office wear is truest terriable
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>>38170466
That's a crock of shit it's locker room talk. Those guys probably been on a dry streak for years and making it up to sound cool to their bros.
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>>38168610
>he trusted a thot
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>>38170759
You're a teenager virgin. What makes you think you know anything about guys in their 30s?
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>>38164929
I thought the whole point of freezing eggs was so they wouldn't have the same risks as normal 35+
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>>38170759
No dude men peak later than women

Women probably peak at around 20-22
Men peak at around 30. If they played their cards right they could be looking at having 6 years or so of job experience with the salary that this entails while being great physically

Most pro athletes peak at 27 to 29 so at 30 you're still in great shape if you take care of yourself

So money + status + good physique = bitches
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>>38170858
just imagine that a dude is a virgin for a second.
do you have how much there is on the line when admitting your virginity to others around you? it totally matters
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>>38170858
>Men peak at around 30.
Im 30 almost 31 and i have a bed, not a room a bed, at my sisters, some clothes and less than $100 at the bank...life is hard man.
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>>38170822
80/20 rule a few of those guys get the left over women that couldn't settle with chad, once they get married the sex ends unless the girl wants an anchor baby and is reserved for special occasions.
>>38170858
That's a meme. A few guys from gen X managed to get a lucky break and find some decent jobs once they hit their 30's. That shit doesn't apply to millennials.
Pro athletes tend to have multi million dollar contracts or at least hundreds of thousands of dollars, normal guys are not even close to being in their league. Those pro sports guys just party and do drugs/buy stupidly expensive shit like cars to impress women. A normal guy goes to work, goes home, maybe hangs out with a few other guys once in a while and has a case of incurable dry dick.
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>>38170928
Wow how did you fuck up this badly?
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>>38170928
Bruh I'm 24 with barely 3k in the bank and I'm a fucking failure

How did you do it man
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>>38170989
Once again, you are a teenager. You don't know shit about life. As evidenced by the fact you believe in the retarded 80/20 meme.
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>>38164929
What did they expect exactly? They spent their 'best years' in the most hedonistic and narcissistic way possible, focusing on getting as much dick as they can and partying every weekend. Sure, a ton of good looking guys will get an easy fuck out of them and they think this means those guys will one day marry them.

So now they're at the point where they've hit the wall, their best years are spent and those good looking guys aren't looking to them for an easy fuck anymore. They sit on this precipice where they can no longer be the party girl to fill the void and no guy with any self respect wants to be with an ex-party girl who has already spent away her youth and is desperate to avoid dying alone. She has no experience with committing to a relationship and will jump ship the minute she thinks she can get something better. Only an equally desperate man will settle for that.
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>>38171108
My age is none of your business. You're going to sit around telling me my age which you're simply guessing at and that you know what it's like for 30ish males when you're not a male in his 30's.
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>>38171186
I'm a male in his 30s. You are not. Why would you know more about this than me?
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>>38165079
>>Woman gets on the cock carousel
>>Fucks a few Chads and suddenly thinks that means she can date Chad.
>>Won't date anyone lower than Chad because she falsely believes that just because a few Chads would fuck that means they would date and settle down with her.

This is the core of problem. Woman think just because they are a 9/10 for a few years that they deserve the perks that come with that forever.
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>>38171196
We both know that's not true, you're simply one of those types that likes to try and win internet arguments. I'm sure you'd love to have attention pretending to be a chad who gets tons of women and sex all the time and just come here for fun when all that's not happening, right sure okay pal.lol
80/20 rule is real you've probably picked up some girl and believe her when she said she was a virgin or only had sex with 3 guys.
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>>38171186
A ROASTY GETTING TOASTY
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>>38165419
>I'll probably move to australia maybe

They recently did a study in the Australian Public Service to determine the effectiveness of gender-blind applications on the rates of men/women progressing through to the interview stage (initially these gender-blind processes were introduced to increase female employment by eliminating any sexism).

However, they found that when the gender was unknown, women actually performed worse. They stood a significantly better chance of securing an interview when the organisation knew they were women.

So what did the study conclude? Gender-Blind application processes should be frozen until this 'issue' is sorted out.
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>can't find similarly successful men
OK first of all. This story is your typical exaggerated story. There's some amount of women that's more than 2 that are freezing their eggs and are doing it for this suggested reason.

Secondly women expect men to exceed them in performance in most things. If they think they're attractive they're gonna seek more attractive people. This limits their pool vastly. A woman that's actually successful would certainly not go for your ordinary Chad with a high-middle class paying job. They're looking for people who run their own businesses and the like. And yes. They probably do look at that as a requirement. If you look at men in that position they don't require financial success. They want someone that's worth being with (or a hot piece of ass). It's very possible that these women aren't all that desirable for anybody that's close to impressing them. Some poor ass fucker here on /r9k/ might think a woman who makes mad cash is amazing but it's not that interesting for most semi-accomplished men. You care about other things. And so naturally if these women don't exhibit other traits that would make them attractive (as they would not on average) because they've limited themselves by only looking up they're gonna be alone on the whole.

Thirdly they're likely not being themselves when dating. Probably. I've been told that solves all dating problems so that's the solution.

>>38164960
Shallow is probably what this is. I'm quite confident these women could find genuinely nice guys (no meme). But could they find nice guys who are also rich?

This is what worries me the most in dating. I'm getting kinda wealthy. I haven't had much success with women and I don't really show any wealth. But if I did they might start to try to deceive me. I don't want that at all. So I'm gonna have to be two faced it seems. And what if someone finds out what I make? It'd be horrible.
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>>38171251
Why are you so intent on spreading lies about relationships and sex?
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I don't mind, having standards is good.
If everyone lowers their standards, humanity would not improve but deteriorate.

Even if I am a Wizard, I wouldn't think about touching some ugly women at all.
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>>38171493
I'm not. Fact is a lot of girls will outright not date you, they're too busy with a small fraction of guys (80/20 rule) while a lot of them will lower their standards they will run a sexless relationship, they'll still bang chads behind the cucks back. A lot of them will date 1 chad or at least try to and him and a few of his chad buddies will pass her around taking turns at fucking her. When she runs out of chad orbiters or a few of the guys that shared her a couple times she'll look to settle with a cuck until she can get a side chad.
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>>38171538
We need a new rule here: anyone who believes in the 80/20 meme needs to leave and fuck off back to wizchan.
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>>38171564
Sorry that you're too dumb to accept the 80/20 rule, maybe you should fuck off back to normieland meatsack.
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>>38171609
Believing the 80/20 meme is a sign of low intelligence. After all, it doesn't make sense, and every piece of data out there shows something completely different. It's only wishful thinking by bitter virgin manchildren.
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>>38171564
It's more like 89-83 rule iirc. (looking at how many of total born women/men get to breed)
Which means that if you pair up men and women arbitrarily (after removing an excess of women/men who'd die before breeding. ~9.5% of men are left without partner and the same amount of women are left in a polygamous relationship.

Which may not seem that much but when you put it in the context of say a school class it's pretty obvious. You cull say 2 students per gender of your 24 student class. Then you're left with 2 guys in class who never get any. 4 girls who compete for Chad. The rest pair nicely as proper monogamous Christians of character should.

I can't give the source because I don't remember it but it's trivial to find I'm sure. Just don't rely on my exact numbers. I know it was in the 80s for both men and women.
>>38171678
I never interpreted /r9k/ as taking the literal definition of it. But perhaps they have.
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>>38171678
Being ignorant is a sign of low intelligence. The 80/20 rule isn't a meme. Women enjoy cuckolding men and cheating on them behind their back, most of them have a pack of chads they keep in rotation for sex and get passed around by them, every once in a while they get some guy because they lost their group of chads and need to kill some time before they get some new ones to bang on the side behind the cuck.
You just don't like to hear the 80/20 rule because it'd make you bitter to think about it being a normal thing that happens all the time.
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>>38164929
why would you want 2 parents with succesful careers? It fucking sucks

hurr durr it's a good thing my parents made lots of money even though I never got to see either of them and feel a stronger emotional connection to my babysitter than either of them
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>>38171800
Anon you don't seem like you've been an engineers kid.
I am. They're not that absent. Dad is absent but that's his fault not his job frankly.

But like any kids I'm realistically raised in daycare and picked up from preschool at 1pm during moms late lunch break and then I spend time at home with my siblings until mom comes home at which point we hang out with her until bed time.
Dad comes home late and is 'tired' during weekends.

Mom has a lot more energy for the parenting stuff. That's obvious.
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>>38171782
>Women enjoy cuckolding men and cheating on them behind their back
Source.
>most of them have a pack of chads they keep in rotation for sex
Source.
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>>38171879
It's a fact women are more likely to cheat. They're typically just better at getting away with it.

and the pack of chads is part of the 80/20 rule you clod, they're not just meeting random girls and getting laid. they have a girl they share/take turns with.
I've seen it happen lots of times. If you think you've never been cheated on when you're dating a girl you're simply ignorant. I've been cucked before women work in their little gossip groups to keep it a secret from the cucks but want to bring their friends on in it in case their friend meets some new chads she can upgrade to or add to her rotation of fuck buddies.
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>>38171948
>asked for sources
>replies with memes and "it's a fact because I said so!"
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>>38171948

Yeah 80/20 rule isn't a perfect science, but its generally true. The problem is the guys who get lucky totally disregard all the guys failing and just blame it on them rather than just admitting the odds are stacked against us.

But just look at the fact that even wanting a virgin gf is seen as a delusional dream while any woman would have her pick of virgin men if she wanted one, but of course they don't.
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https://youtu.be/PNDIPKgEmWA
https://youtu.be/sUU8DWPKkkw
Good relevant shit.

Especially the second one.
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>>38164929
>yfw modern women are smarter than modern men
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>>38172054
Wrong way around. The problem is the few rare guys who can't get girls (aka /r9k/) and totally disregard all the other guys (99%) who are getting girls just fine.

It's a coping mechanism for these rare failures. They want to feel better by convincing themselves that they are part of the bottom 80% of males, and not the bottom 1% they actually are.
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>>38165140
>successful financially, educationally
the article defines success as holding a bachelors degree, I'm not dating a woman with 200k in debt
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>>38172097
*Successful

And that will happen when white men are demonised for their very existence while their are quotas up the wazu for women.
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>>38172116
Throughout history only about 1 in every 2 males every had children. It's not 20/80, but you're batshit insane if you think it's 1/99.
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>>38170699
>>38170715
>>38170737
I think those are all interns
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>>38172021
You have no evidence yourself, I'm not going to waste my time finding sources for you because you're not going to believe it either way and I simply don't carew hat you believe, because what you think doesn't change anything. The 80/20 rule is a thing and it's going to keep being a thing whether you believe in it or not.

>>38172054
Yeah it's kind of funny, a lot of these girls have a pack of chads like a small group of guys and they are astounded if a guy isn't one of them because they are banging so many of them at the same time they're surprised that it doesn't work that way everywhere.
A lot of these guys get told there is someone out there for everyone, you just haven't met the right girl yet, ect, ect, people just say it to make them feel better while not actually believing it, but the guy gets told it so often he's delusional enough to think someday it'll work out despite years of it not.
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>>38172116

You misunderstand 80/20 rule. Its not that 80% of guys aren't getting laid at all, that's crazy, its that they are getting scraps, fatties, chad's left overs. They are getting cheated on and cucked at record numbers. If you're a guy getting into in your first relationship your gf will likely already have had 3-8 guys before you.
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>>38171751
>2 guys who never get any
We are the two guys.
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>>38172168
Those who didn't have children died virgins? No, they didn't. "Throughout history" is irrelevant anyway when talking about today's society, where getting sex is easier than ever.
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>>38172182
Everyone keeps repeating this 80/20 meme but no one has ever posted any source or any evidence showing it's even close to reality. I wonder why?

It's a cult thing, people believe it because they want to believe in it.
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Women want the same things they've always wanted. It's just that being those things now means something alot different than it used to. Women are outearning men and getting more educated, yet they still want a man who earns MORE than her and has a better career. You'll see where this can't work.
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>>38172181
>around 0.3 percent of adults report never having had the type of sex that could end in somebody getting pregnant

Source: CDC.

Your turn. You have been proven wrong beyond the shadow of a doubt with 10 seconds of google. Will you admit being wrong now and that you were just repeating memes?
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>>38172182
It's so pointless to explain it, they think if a guy got laid once in his life and lost his virginity that the 80/20 rule can't work out. They think it means 80% of the guys have to be virgins and not that they typically are single their entire life and only have sex once or so rarely that their virginity practically grew back.
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>>38172261
Sorry I really don't know what you have invested in the 80/20 rule being wrong but you simply don't understand the concept at all, it'd be a waste of my time to explain it to you when you don't understand it and wouldn't believe it anyway. Only meme here is how angry you are about it being a fact.
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>>38172287
>fact
You are not smart enough to understand the meaning of that word. You were asked to provide simple evidence. Even one little factoid or study. You can't.

I wonder why. Maybe because you're wrong? Why do you insist on believing it anyway? Are you that afraid to admit you're the bottom 1% and not the bottom 80%?
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>>38165544

Data says no. On the other hand, women generally care a LOT about the career of their man.
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>>38172269
>they typically are single their entire life and only have sex once
Got a source for that?
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>>38172239

The proof is in the difference of the level of sexual success between men and woman.

You have to look at quality and quantity. Woman are gonna get way more quality partners throughout their life than men, its just facts. Yes, most guys will end up finding something to fuck before they die, but its nowhere close to amount of dating success that woman enjoy. If you compare the 2 it will look something like 80/20, because very few men are as valuable as woman in the mating game.
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>>38164929
Robots are just as picky and stubborn as these women. Unless a female meets the requirements of
>virgin
>white
>introvert
>shut-in
>skinny
They will not settle. So what's wrong with these women having some standards as well? Why should they settle with a man that barely makes money and has poor genes, if all he will give her is ugly children raised in a poor environment with an autistic father? Ironically enough, both women and robots ends up alone at 30+ because they refuse to settle.
>inb4 roastie gtfo
I'm a male, and i'm not defending either side here, but you have more in common with these women than you think.
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>>38172351
Way to miss the point. You are not providing proof, just stating wishful thinking. Saying "its just facts" does not make something a fact, especially when you have nothing to back it up.

So, the 80/20 thing is a meme, you're just confirming it by not posting any evidence or facts.
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>>38172401
>skinny

Hey now, I'll take a chubby girl too. Provided that she is also a titcow.
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>>38172269
>It's so pointless to explain it, they think if a guy got laid once in his life and lost his virginity that the 80/20 rule can't work out.

Exactly. You have to look at it more like a game then let your common sense do the rest of the work. Take your average man and your average woman and task them with getting the most sex that they can in a week and give them extra points for getting 7-10s, the woman will always come out on top by a large percentage.
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>>38172425
You're a minority though. I think we can agree here that 90% of men want someone skinny or semi thick.
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>>38172310
You're really bitter. I think you're making it a little too obvious you're denial of the 80/20 is because you don't want to think you're in a bottom %percentile. Sorry but maybe you weren't as well off as you thought.
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>>38164929
The happiest men are the ones who never think about women. Women are always miserable because most of them are always thinking about men.
Men don't need a woman to 'complete them' or be their 'better half'. That's all made up shit, women are a liability not a benefit.
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>>38172407
That was a different anon, you're very unreasonable about this entire thing. It's funny because I've seen you have this same argument with other anons in different threads and you always screech for a source and then when someone posts a link to it you just deny it and say it's wrong.
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>>38166521
The guy will always pick the younger girl, these women are delusional and will never be happily married.
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>>38164929
Nice social explosion you've got there in a decade, West.
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>>38172467
>The happiest men are the ones who never think about women.
Unless if a man is gay he is always thinking about women, whether it's in the form of sex or general romance. Men literally need sex to survive. This board is proof they can't function well without.
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>>38166840
they're married by 25 now mostly. and yes women are all the same, some men are actually different.
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>>38164929
I hope you guys are practicing your Arab because we need more immigrants working to pay for your welfare ponzi scheme. empowering women lowers your fertility rate and patriarchal Muslims countries have a better fertility rate.
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>>38165419

Wrong.

We need to

- criminalize paternity testing
- tax unmarried men at 90 percent
- make it illegal for men to own guns
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>>38172401
>virgin
I don't care as long as she hasn't been on the cock carousel for too long (15 guys or lees)

>introvert
>skinny
>shut in
I just want to netflix, gaymin, animu, and chill. I just want her to not be a push over and not be a lyin' passive aggressive (or just aggressive) bitch. as long as she has a decent to nice body and isn't a landwhale I'll be happy.
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>>38164929
>similarly successfull
All the similarly successfull men already married less successfull women who can take care of the kids instead of focusing on their career
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The only decent women in the world have dicks
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>>38172571
>15 guys or lees
jfc do you not have any standards? 3+ is already pushing it. the fact that you will be okay fucking a hole where up to 15 guys have been in is disgusting
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>>38172514
There will be an event where Arab sympathies change drastically no doubt.
Or just progressively negative. That'd be the most dangerous. For everyone.
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>>38172583
>less successful women
But isn't there a problem with this? Shouldn't a woman be able to provide for herself too and have income?

I don't think it's okay for them to leech off of men either. The women that usually do nag their husbands and try to control the money.

What if the man dies and her and the children are left with nothing?
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>>38172401
I think most men (and robots) would be willing to date ANY women who shows interest in them. When I was looking to date, the only requirements I had were to not be completely hideous, obese or a single mom.

That's it. Most guys recognize they're not going to date a 10/10 stacy supermodel and get what they can get. I know a lot of regular guys dating chubby chicks because those are the women they settled for, and are probably grateful they're with, even if they're not chubby themselves.
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>>38172623
I know a girl that's fucked over 15 guys. It is super gross, if you tried loading all those guys into a vehicle you'd have to get a city bus. Why would someone want to be with a girl that's fucked a busload of guys?
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>>38172736
was she from here? i met a fat girl here that fucked 7
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""""""women""""""
Just fucking kill them already. Imagine having sex with such a roastie, fucking disgusting, you are literally fucking 40 dicks at the same time.
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>>38172623
tell me, how many women do you think the average man sleeps with by the time he hits his mid twenties? the average woman lies and aims down when talking about the number partners they've had. fifteen one night stands is nothing
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>>38172785
you can pretty much tell if you know her for a long time and analyze her personality well. studies show its actually not that rare for girls under 30 to have less than 5 partners though. i think the average man sleeps with 5 women by his mid-20s.
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we should literally invent artificial wombs and gas all the women.
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>>38172824
those numbers seem extremely low for either gender given the current hook up culture
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>>38172827
w-what the fuck

this proves 50:50 gender ratio is straight up conspiracy
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>>38172775
Fucking hell. Just try to imagine how that gangbang looked like.
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>>38172766
It's not my place to say.
Technically I think she was prostituting herself I don't believe she was just having sex with random guys for fun.
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>>38172168
There was a short study done with tinder and it was literally 80/20, don't have on my phone but it's posted often here. The 80/20 rule as far as /r9k/ goes it regular sex, sure some beta can have sex and have date a woman but he won't have the same access to women otherwise.
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>>38171462
Ill date you anon. But first, how rich are you ;)
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>>38172883
Polygamy.
Oriiiginaaaal.
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>>38172883
ther eare 2 reasons for this.
1. Human sex ratio - for every 100 women there are 106 men born.
2. Age difference - in other words- older rich guys snatching young women.
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I have a source on the 80/20 rule but I want to share a specific part of the source itself.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/all-the-single-ladies/308654/?single_page=true
"One of Walsh's pet observations pertains to what she calls the "soft harem," where high-status men (i.e., the football captain) maintain an "official" girlfriend as well as a rotating roster of neo-concubines, who service him in the barroom bathroom or wherever the beer is flowing. "There used to be more assortative mating," she explained, "where a five would date a five. But now every woman who is a six and above wants the hottest guy on campus, and she can have him-for one night.""
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>>38173343
This proves a classic saying that women rather share a Chad than date robot. I guess we didnt evolved that much since cavemen times.
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>>38172480
Is there a link? Then post it. Actual facts backing up the 80/20 meme.
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>>38173343
I don't know if this is more funny than sad. At any other time, you would have dismissed this article with "dumb roastie whore reeeee". But because it agrees with your meme beliefs, you treat it as facts. It's an opinion piece by a dumb roastie.
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>>38173343

Why even live? Seriously reading things like this makes me want to drink whiskey and put a gun to my fucking head. A guy like me has no chance. I will never find a wife, I'll probably never even get a girlfriend.
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What do these career women do exactly?
What degree do they have? What occupation do they have?
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>>38172869
women are getting more sex than men this is nothing new
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>>38173528
usually its in business or finance since they are too stupid for STEM
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>>38173598
How is that possible? The amount of men and women is roughly equal. So logically they will be getting roughly the same amount of sex. Unless there are 10 times more lesbians than gays.
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>>38173504
>meme beliefs
How ignorant you have you to be?
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>>38166884
>t. male feminist
originospelliarmus
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>>38173657
Women are whores and guys have it harder to get laid.
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>>38173447
And yet we will continue to argue that woman would not share a Chad. But who could blame them? They have a chance and they take it. I have another one as well but it is from dating sites which some may not like.
https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e

>>38173504
When someone speaks truth, you do not mock them for speaking it. You try to understand it. What is incorrect about what she is saying? What about this do you disagree on? 80/20 is based on the Pareto principle. Do you have sources to disprove what she is saying? We'd love to see some that isn't anecdotal from you.
Also more from me.

In the history of mankind as a species, an average of 40% of men successfully passed their genes to future generations, compared to an average of 80% for women. Today's human population is descended from twice as many women as men. This is (widely acknowledged) proof that women function as sexual selectors, and that men evolved risk-taking and ambition behaviours to compete for mating rights. Studies:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.6231.pdf
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/11/2047.long
>>38173510
Don't let women be the end all be all of your life. Think of them as a side piece of enjoyment. That is what I try to do.
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>>38173725
Guys have it easier to get laid BECAUSE women are whores.
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>>38173740
I know it's futile to try to explain logic to you, since you are a woman, and not a very smart one at that. That article basically explained that the captain of the football team got drunk and as a result fucked some fat ugly STD-ridden whores. Most girls would stay away from that guy, so he's having to do with the trash tier girls.
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>>38173863
Wrong. They are only whores for Chad.
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>>38173740
>https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e
>ctrl f share
>0 results
>ctrl f chad
>0 result

You must have linked the wrong article. Nothing in there says anything about women wanting to share a Chad.
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>>38173898
If by Chad you mean, someone who is not a raging autistic fat neckbeard manchild NEET, then yes.
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>>38173893
>Most girls would stay away from that guy
But they didn't as she earlier stated
>How do you feel all feel about guys who get with a ton of girls?." Walsh asked. "Do you think they have 'trash dick'?" She'd run across this term on the Internet
They know they are man whores and will gladly open their legs for them. Or you can live in blissful unawareness. Makes no difference to me.

>>38173918
Being obtuse I see. Learn to read between the lines
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>>38164929
Why the fuck should I settle for used up 35 year old 'career woman' i.e. bitch, when I could have 20 year Asian waifu?
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>>38173657
>How is that possible?
It isn't. You're arguing with a retard.
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>>38173943
nopers you are wrong
pic related is chad
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>>38173993
well, if she actually had a good career she could support your fat neet ass

would be funny if gender roles reversed to the point where middle aged women get married to young guys who divorced them and took their monies
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>>38165079
my sister is like this. 32 and honestly stunned "how bad the options are" and Im like ... what are you even bringing to the table? You took biology and work at the fucking zoo and you think some suit in a benz who just got off work at pwc is in your league??

Society has ruined women.
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Why even get mad over this?

The ones who really want a partner will lower their standards, the ones who won't do it will die alone. It's their problem and not worth caring about.
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>women make less money than men
>women cant find men making enough money for them

CHOOSE ONE YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS SHIT GENDER, YOU PLAGUE ON MANKIND
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>>38174196
>women cant find enough Chads making enough money for them
fixed
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>>38174228
like I said, it's their problem so who cares
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>>38174228
thats my point, it isnt that they cant find men making enough money, its that they think they deserve literally the highest tier males

>>38174240
not when we have to pay for them to raise chads kid, then it becomes our problem, and it incentivizes more of them to ignore us and have more kids from guys who are out of their league
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>>38174260
>he still works and pays taxes in 2017
you fucked up nigga, get on welfare
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>>38173993
>I could have 20 year Asian waifu
Are you so sure about that?
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>>38172239
Did you try looking on Wikipedia you fucking retarded autistic? They have an article on it.
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>>38174260
>they think they deserve literally the highest tier males
eggs are valuable while sperm is worthless.
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>>38174287
The Pareto principle applies to economics. Nothing to do with the 80/20 meme. Or is it a different wiki article you mean?
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>>38166843
thanks Jordan for that originality
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>>38174284
if fat 50 year old guys can do it yeah robots can get one
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>>38164929
That movie idiotocracy is coming true.
Cant fucking dude...Been practicing my retard talk and I might get laid.
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>>38174294
>eggs are valuable while sperm is worthless.

I get this shit, but in an actual civilized society, with contraceptives, women need to actually fucking settle, or the population will drop like a rock and you'll be overrun by foreigners

fucking dumbass cuckold
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>>38174284
>jealous Stacey trying to put doubts in my mind
If you're white in Asia you're treated like a rock star.
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>>38174310
They have money though. Neetbux aren't enough. And if you see those Asian waifus, they are absolute uggos.
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>>38174330
Spoken like someone who has never been to Asia. You're falling for dumb memes. Being white can be a bonus in Asia, but you still need to be a male who brings something desirable to the table. Being a basement-dwelling neet isn't going to get you any girls, Asia or not.
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>>38174349
>They have money though.
What? nah man most of them divorced working class guys who saved by a bit and moved, they don't have much money lol

>And if you see those Asian waifus, they are absolute uggos.
beggars can't be choosers, they are young and fertile at least

anyway kidding aside I have been to Asia and if you are white, above 5/10 and not completely autistic you can get some good quality qts
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>>38174382
>t bitter 35 year old career woman
How's life on the shelf?
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>>38174228
Chads don't need money, my former best friend is a 9/10 Chad with lots of tattoos who plays in a band and his gf's keep him as a boy toy, drive him around, buy him lattes and restaurant meals and stuff, let him crash at their apartments. He's 26, doesn't have a driving license, doesn't know how to drive anyways, dropped out of high school in grade 11 and never got his diploma. He dated a lawyer for a few weeks and another girl who works in the ministry of finance for half a year. He has had about 20 different girlfriends but most of them were roughly in the same class asides from those two, minimum wage retail workers without university degrees
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>>38174303
The Pareto distribution can be observed in many different fields
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEWRykSgwE
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>>38174534
But do you have any evidence it applies here? That 80% of men are having sex with 20% of women?
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>>38171244
This is the actual issue right here. Why is this post underrated?
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>>38171564
the 80/20 rule is true but women are willing to comprise and settle for what they can get but if they had the chance they will only date the top males.
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>>38174547
It can apply anywhere. The rule most definitely isn't 50/50.
>That 80% of men are having sex with 20% of women
It follows hypergamy very well I believe and as I said here
>>38173740
>an average of 40% of men successfully passed their genes to future generations, compared to an average of 80% for women

These women are settling for the 80% if they don't get the 20%.
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>>38170078
cool that you think that but all this means is that she gives money to chad on the side and gets 75% of money in the divorce instead of 50%, women working to begin with was what caused wages to stagnate
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>>38174655
Why are you taking prehistorical data on breeding and thinking it applies in any way today?
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>>38172239
the 80/20 rule was the driving force of human evolution you retard but now most men have the chance of getting some pussy thanks to the opportunity for men to acquire resources more easily over the years but she will probably still cheat on you if you don't have the good genes she is looking for from attract males. you need both if you want to be the most desirable.
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>grow up hearing how women are the fairer sex and that they care about feelings and the wellbeing of others and are selfless not like those chauvinistic pigs (men)
>mfw the opposite is true
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>>38165064
>Never mind the uneducated men with no help, no chances at a good job and doomed to be lower middle class their entire lives
MORE LIKE JAIL AND OR REHAB FOR ME NIGGER.
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>>38165375
>Men mostly want a woman who is physically attractive, loyal and nurturing.
Give me a women that can work a lever action rifle and skin a buck and field strip an M16 Ill fucking not care.
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>>38169570
>ambitious women
No such thing.
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>>38174808
Why do you think it doesn't apply today? Unless women somehow subverted hypergamy and they aren't the sexual selectors we thought they are, this data won't be wrong for a long time.
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>>38164929

There are a lot of men freezing his Sperm. Men have the same problem of find successful women
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>>38164929
I don't care. They sucked the Jew cock and are now screaming about how it's totally not their fault that civilization is going down the drain oh no it's the men's fault. Let them suffer.
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>>38174808
Because you keep pissing on the modern examples people give, while also ignoring how unpopular any modern entity publishing this story would become.

Anything even remotely anti feminist in the west simply isn't tolerated, but Japan has done some interesting research on this. For instance, over a quarter of their male population are still virgins at 30.

Over a quarter haven't had sex once. This doesn't count robots who got a single drunken hookup, people who hired hookers, or those with some sort of defect. In Japan over 25% of healthy men haven't had sex by 30. Period.

The number of virgin women over there at that age is somewhere in the 1% area.

Women are sluttier in the west so the actual virgin rate may not be quite as high but you can be damn sure the principles that resulted in it (female hypergamy, feminism, career oriented women, ect) still keep a lot of Western men from getting the wives their ancestors enjoyed.

Next time do your own goddamned research before coming over here acting like a bitch and calling everyone a liar.
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>>38174294
>muh nature
Funny how it's only okay for women and faggots to scream that.
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>>38174934
Why the fuck would a man freeze his sperm? Any degredation in quality is minimal until he hits his 70s, or some other health problem inhibits his sex organs.
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>>38174966
>civilization is going down the drain
Really? We're doing better than ever. Despite a few wars here and there.
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>>38174980
>The number of virgin women over there at that age is somewhere in the 1% area.
Source. You are deliberately lying here. It's true that a lot of Japanese men are virgins, but so are women. You are comparing statistics of Japanese male virgins and western female virgins.

If you can't see why this doesn't work you are too dumb to be on the internet.
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>>38174920
There are things such as relationships and marriages. Maybe you've heard of them? According to you, since our prehistoric ancestors also did not have fire and writing, we also do not have fire and writing today.
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>>38164929
I for one look forward to buying some of their frozen eggs, altering it's genes to the extent that the original woman they came from no longer exists in the ovum, and implanting it in an artificial womb so that me and my robot wife can start a family.

The future is bright
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>>38175098
>According to you, since our prehistoric ancestors also did not have fire and writing, we also do not have fire and writing today.
I would think some know the difference between objects and observable behaviors of people that have existed far longer
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>>38175060
Go find it yourself you fucking retard.

Nobody wants to hear your autistic screeching of FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS for everything we post.

Unironically kill yourself now. That is an order.
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>>38175151
>make retarded claim
>NUH HUH GOOGLE IT

You are lying and you know it.
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>>38165120
Use it to kill others first,faggot. Or even better...take up gun collecting and shooting as a hobby. Get into hunting.
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>>38173740
>In the history of mankind as a species, an average of 40% of men successfully passed their genes to future generations, compared to an average of 80% for women. Today's human population is descended from twice as many women as men.
It could be lower, women have mens DNA that gave them a creampie effect the children they have with other men.
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>>38173893
>Most girls would stay away from that guy,
That's not how it works at all. Women want guys that are sexually experienced. They'd rather go with some guy that fucks low class whores than a virgin or a guy that doesn't fuck a lot.
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>>38175311
>he believes in the telegony meme
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>>38165529
>It's like if I told you kids in africa are starving. Yes, it's a problem
Blame unifec.
If those fuckers stop helping them they might start growing food.
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>>38175331
The slutty roastie whores, yes. Most women don't. But I don't expect you to understand complicated things such as varying preferences.
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>>38174909
>lever action rifles
>M16
I really wish americans could go.
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>>38175382
The preference you seem to think is a majority isn't anywhere near that. 80/20 rule women would rather have one guy that fucks a lot of different girls. They don't want to date down, especially not when they have a bunch of chad friend with benefits.
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>>38175382
>Most women don't
What woman isn't hypergamous? A retard?
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>>38175185
You are truly a worthless fuck. I told you to kill yourself. Fucking do it!

https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/elsevier/statement-on-virginity-testing-2CT8ARsy7J?key=elsevier

There. Don't you dare even think of asking anyone to do your homework for you ever again you lazy sack of fucking shit!
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>>38168941
>no wonder they cant find a decent man anymore.
HAHAHAHAHAHA GOOD this pleases the CRANK.
IT makes my cock jump and twitch with glee.
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>>38175041
No,the mechanisms for ensured development and actuation of society are all but gone. What awaits us is a slow and painful decay.
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>>38175031
>Why the fuck would a man freeze his sperm?

All those successful men. You cant refill wasted sperm if are busing fapping with anime pictures. Most companies have sperm-freezing services.
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if your poor, you wont get to have children with a smart woman

poor people fuck all the time and have plenty of kids, but isn't considered a measure of success

money determines power, looks , safety , confidence - but just "be" yourself :^)
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>>38175531
>slow and painful decay.

>implying shitskins wont be killing off and raping white people left and right when they're the majority, just like in south africa and so many other places
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>>38165140
Right and they wonder why men don't want to become shit like teachers. Men don't want to be teachers anymore because one it's a shit job and two you're walking on eggshells amongst it being just a shitty boring thing to want to be period.

My male teachers were commonly pencil
neck faggots hardly deserving of any respect. Who the fuck wants to be a teacher as a male when it's becoming increasingly female geared and any of these little shits can accuse you of anything? My male teachers had the most problems also with these girls trying to snuggle up with them and then the power crazed usually female principals on their backs 24/7. Of course not, let them fucking burn. America's education system is a joke anyway.
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>>38164929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDFpQgVaZF4&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=WYxNzTD1CmCKBhy1-6
SUKA BLYATI SAID COME IN DONT JUST STAND THERE>
ITS CHEEKI BREEKI TIME STALKERS>
BANDITS LONERS FREEDOM OR DUTY ITS TIME TO BLAYT MAN.
GET IN HERE NOW FUCKERS.
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>>38174329
>women need to actually fucking settle
child raising it too much of a hassle for modern women. Besides more and more of them rather get a dog or a cat than conceive a child. Current times are about pursuing hedonistic pleasures wrapped up in "self-discovery" than family but even then lack of parenting is astonishing.
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>>38172775
Pretty much bro...I tried telling you this.
Im no chad but meth makes women do someshit.
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>>38172953
>1. Human sex ratio - for every 100 women there are 106 men born.
And like 50 to 60 of those men die of suicide or other deaths like working.
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>>38173343
Women want the alpha male tribal leader not the surfs who do the farming.
What the fuck else is new?
Feudalism would have told you nigger this.
Give up like I have.
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>>38173343
That seems like a pretty good article.
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Reminded me of this, the russians know their shit
https://youtu.be/JKD35SnBe8k
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>>38175424
Why do you call the 80/20 meme a rule?
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>>38175433
Why do you post a completely unrelated link? You said that in Japan 30% of men are virgins and less than 1% of women are. Instead, you post a link about vaginal studies. Now, it's clear you are not intelligent enough to have finished high school, but even Forrest Gump got laid. He just wasn't a raging sperglord like you.
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>>38174063
Chads just rich with muscles
See ryan goslin.
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>>38176354
Someone hasn't read the thread. Please refrain from bringing up topics that have already been confirmed earlier.
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>>38176423
Not one post in this thread has given the slightest shred of evidence that the 80/20 meme is even remotely close to true. You clearly haven't read any of the links posted on this thread.
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>>38176149
GIT IN HERE BOLSHIV
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>>38176333
Trips confirmes it and kek wills it.
Will watch after my live stream of DJ BLYAT man.
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>>38176445
You know what. You're right. The rule is more like 80/40.
>>38175311
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>>38176414
Daily Reminder that Ryan Gosling is a jew
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>>38176498
Whoops wrong post linked
>>38173740
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>>38176505
>Ryan Gosling is a jew
No, he's not.
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>>38164929
If this was the female equivalent of being a 30 year old male firgin, I could sympathise with them, but it isn't.
They haven't suffered nearly enough.
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>>38176525
Yes he is.
He literally went to jewllywood to connect with his roots
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>>38165544
It depends.
Sure it can be nice if you have a similar education background so you can talk about those things.
But I'd rather have somebody who shared my hobbies and worldview, even if they were pursueing a non-prestigeous line of work.
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>>38176498
You are comparing prehistorical times, when survival rates were very low, to today's society? You must be trolling. No one can be this dumb.
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>>38176656
>when survival rates were very low
What source do you have for this? Because this source says otherwise.
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/life-expectancy-myth-and-why-many-ancient-humans-lived-long-077889
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>>38176656
Todays society most women are unwed single mothers with a lot of the time multiple baby daddies who have their own girlfriends or wives and other kids already, they don't want single guys that are not chad or wont fit in their social group of females that they share a few chads for sex.
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>>38172401
>virgin
Don't care as long as she isn't a literal slut.
>white
Nope, there's plenty of ethnicities I would date.
>introvert
Extrovert women aren't usually interested in introverted men.
>shut-in
You wot? A literal shut-in would make a terrible gf. Somebody who is more of an indoors person would be nice, but I'd also go along with a regular person as long as she didn't try to get me "do things outside" every single day.

Weak b8, 2/10.
>skinny
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>>38176774
>most women are unwed single mothers
Really? Source.
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>>38176751
1. Prehistorical
2. Life expectancy

You are really grasping at straws desperately. And you fail to see the point, which is that, what relevance does any of this have in today's society? You can't provide a single source of the 80/20 meme claim because it doesn't exist. The sooner you admit it's a dumb meme, the sooner you will be able to go out and get laid.
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>>38172401
>Implying I haves standards
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>>38176886
I'm not seeing a source so thanks for playing.
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>>38176886
Actually here's another 40/80 for you http://www.denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm
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>>38176836
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/unmarried-childbearing.htm

It's been an increasing trend. It's even more pronounced in some populations. It also doesn't account for divorce where they discard their partner for promiscuity with chads again
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>>38172401
>implying all non succesful man are ugly robots
are you fucking twelve or something?

you might not be a female but you sure think like one
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>>38176903
Every time someone comes up with a source you argue about why it's wrong. It's funny in a way that all you do is sit around getting angry about this demanding sources and rejecting them with no counter sources or facts.
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>>38176931
You are literally just posting random links and hoping that one of them agrees with you. You don't even read the links you post.
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>>38176999
Did you mean to reply to me? That was my first time asking for proofs I believe in this thread.

>>38177021
Don't care.
The Pareto principle would indicate that 80% of men have the *same amount of sex* as 20% of the top men. Now, that amount of sex is spread throughout the 80%, so an accurate number of "sexless virgins" is difficult to obtain. Needless to say, though, it's not particularly grand compared to the top 20%, and nothing at all compared to the top 1%.

One might ask, well, wouldn't the Pareto principle apply to women as well? It might, except as /r9k/ likes to say over and over again, women are the sexual selectors in our society. Therefore, the top 80% get all the sex (with a wide distribution spread across that percentage), while the bottom 20% get nothing, or close to it. Which is why we have so many lonely femanons, because 20% is a pretty big number.
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>>38176970
Unmarried women. Not unmarried single mothers. Are you stupid or are you a liar?
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>>38177049
>The Pareto principle would indicate that 80% of men have the *same amount of sex* as 20% of the top men.
No, it doesn't.

>The Pareto principle (also known as the 80/20 rule, the law of the vital few, or the principle of factor sparsity)[1] states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes.

You are just desperately lying now. Why can't you accept the fact that you are the bottom 1% of men who can't get sex, and not the bottom 80%?
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80% of women are getting fucked by 75% of men you kids.
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>>38177085
Hey man all I know is the rule sure isn't 50/50 and no amount of arguing will change that.
>Why can't you accept the fact that you are the bottom 1% of men who can't get sex, and not the bottom 80%
Really? Source for this claim that isn't anecdotal?
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>>38177164
He thinks everyone on here is a virgin except him and that people wouldn't lie about their sexual experiences where males tend to lie about getting it more than they do while females tend to lie about getting less and with fewer guys.
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>>38177210
Tis what I am thinking. People lie about their n count all the time. Why would women lie about not sleeping around? They inherently know guys don't like hearing how many guys they sleep with.
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>>38177164
/r9k/ math claims that men outnumber women 10 to 1. That's the only way the 80/20 meme could be true.
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>>38177292
Most posters of /r9k/ are lying. This board is just normies RPing. Nearly everyone here has had sex and gfs. It's only a tiny minority who are actually autistic khv's. The rest are just pretending.
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>>38177426

Single men outnumber single women by a huge margin. Also you have men of all ages, even up to fucking 75, competing for a women in a very small age range (about 18 - 25, maybe 30 for the older guys). You didn't do well in statistics did you?
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>>38177445
>Nearly everyone here has had sex and gfs. It's only a tiny minority who are actually autistic khv's. The rest are just pretending.
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>>38165041
It didn't take long for one of you retards to pull the not all women fallacy
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i'm on track with a successful career and plenty of disposable income

women still hate me. it isn't success they're looking for.
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>>38169593
Actually i'd say it's because successful guys are out fucking young hot women not career women who'd make terrible mother's and have hit the wall
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>>38177579
>mgtow poster
opinion discarded
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>>38177616
Anon, the 20/80 fact. You will not be loved neither will any guy below 8/10

There is also the 6/7/8 rule.
6ft tall, 7inch dick, 8/10 face.
These are minimum requirements. Think about it you never see an average guy with a girl unless she is over 30 and he is a beta provider.

Just go your own way

The game was rigged from the start
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Why should females settle for less? What high-powered career woman or artist girl would want to settle with a plumber, even if the plumber made $100,000/year? A lot of men can't even fucking take care of themselves - just walk around in any city and you see scruffy and unshaven losers with no fashion sense wearing jeans from the last decade, some of them hungover or on drugs. These people are motivated, ambitious, focused on their careers? Let alone capable of doing their share of the cooking and housework that modern society demands?

Fuck that, it's clear why females want a real man (or a really hot one) or would rather be alone.
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>>38166388
If she's single and she has to drop her job for some time is 0$ going to be enough to keep her out of debt?
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>>38177647
Scared of the blackpill roastie I would say suck my dick but you'd just cry for Chad poor you what's the matter Chad not messaged you on Tinder today. I heard wiminz had it tough.
You cunts don't deserve the vote
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>>38177669

mid tier women want top tier men
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>>38176258
They die later. When you're young you have a lot of extra dick to compete with, especially if you have immigrants.
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>>38177669
Why should men settle for single moms or career women, even if they do make 60,000 a year and why should any man go out with someone that it is equal to them?
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>>38177723
This
Women are all monkey branching cunts.
Why else would they go out with domestic abusers. They think they're hot. Women are all cunts that want attention why else would they post here even though they get ridiculed attention. Giving cuts the right to vote was a mistake. Nice guy's like me can't get girls because I'm not a ten out of ten Chad who is successful and very high status.
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>>38166910
>skim title
>leftover
>eggs
>start to get hungry
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>>38177693
kys im not a woman and i'd fag bash you if you got up in my face with your bullshit irl, you're not a man you're an ugly little shit with small nuts that couldn't get a prostitute if you had a handful of 100 dollar bills
just admit it, it's not your ugly face, your height, how dumb and shitty your personality is, you can't get girls because you're a fag and want a trap feminine looking boyfriend and don't want people to know your gay.
your politics are just to cover up how fucking shitty of a person you are
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>>38177669
Bad bait is bad. The problem here isn't that they're settling, is that they're not bringing anything to the tables themselves. They're effectively bad products who are at the same time overpriced and thus have no customer base.

The career women usually go for male goals, completely missing the point that most guys do not fucking care at all about what they have achieved. While they do care about their age, attitude and other issues. All of whom are huge factors. Career women are literally the group that is the second most likely to end up entirely alone and unwanted next to unemployed uneducated men. What they have to offer, nobody wants. What they demand, nobody wants to pay.

"Artist girl" is a meme. Every loser who has achieved nothing and will ammount to nothing is now an artist. Artists are usually neets with overinflated ego and aspirations of grandeur. They might be the only group worse than career women but as long as they look good enough and manage to settle early on some guy might snap them up as their live in entertainment.


>>38177723
Women have a hard time understanding that men and women behave differently, as they have been outright brainwashed. Aside from a hugely overinflated ego they take a drunk guy sleeping with them who is way out of their league as cue that they might have a shot. They fail to understand that for men giving sex is cheap and what matters is commitment. While women are the sexual gatekeepers.
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>>38177830
>Gets called out as a woman
Acts like a tough guy over the internet

Like poetry
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>>38177830
Not a fan of MGTOW because it's pointless due to taxation and welfare and cutting oneself off from casual hook ups with roasties serves no purpose but wow you are one angry person. Also if you are NOT a roastie you sure have a feminine way to insult/attack people. Because your entirely post is roastie shaming tactics 101.
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>>38177966
That's the funny part, if you know the way women try to "attack" and "argue" with people which usually includes attacking one's manliness and the likes (MAN UP!) then the post looks very much like a woman trying to come play at being a guy. Which means the poster is either a low test feminized one or a roastie.
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>>38177974
Of course I do. How else are you going to troll a loser with women issues. Just repeat the stuff they expect to hear back to them.
>>38177966
I'm sure you're real tough creep.
>>38178015
I can spot a roastie through text using my brilliant mind im to intelligent to not know whom is posting what anonymously
dipshit
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>>38178015
It's like poetry anon it really is just like poetry
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>>38166171
More and more women are pressured into being career women because they're not hot enough to get an older sugardaddy with a stable income and even if they were would you really just want to be someone who took you in only because you're hot? Moreover, would you really not want to have any autonomy over your life decisions and be completely reliant on another person?

I hate the innate mentalities of females as much as any robot but the decision to be a career driven woman is completely justified in today's society.
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>>38178185
>More and more women are pressured into being career women because they're not hot enough to get an older sugardaddy with a stable income and even if they were would you really just want to be someone who took you in only because you're hot
I'd do this if I were a hot chick. Literally failing on easy mode.
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>>38170699
typical employees w/in the jew run media
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>>38167384
I would soap up and down those rails just to make a point
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>>38164929
>Demand more successful women thus making the number of more successful men decrease
>Refuse to date someone less successful than you

One or the other. Can't have your cake and eat it too, roasties.
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>>38180105
Forgot my picture. Since they want to be so much like men than they should start dating down as well.
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>>38165079
Can confirm. When I was 16-20 I wouldn't get the time of day from women, because I was scrawny and lanky from playing vidya all day - not physically appealing I guess.

Since I started working out a year ago, and have made all kinds of strength and muscle gains (I've become the chad archetype), I get stacies, cumdumpsters and not so loyal housewives and single mothers raping me with their eyes, everywhere I go.

Sexual gratification feels good man.

It's great, because when I see them eyeing me up from my periphery, I purposely ignore them and keep my gaze in a straight direction to avert eye contact.

This drives women nuts, because if a hot guy eyes them up for more than a second this will give them the sexual gratification they desire to validate their self worth - but if you deny it for long enough (assuming you're desirable), they'll eventually come to you to talk to you, hoping this will lead to you fucking them (so they feel validation). Works 8/10
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