>first president >also the best president How did he do it?

Most historians don't consider him to be the best president, though he is usually considered near the top. The important thing to remember about Washington is how little the constitution says about the president. Washington, through his comportment, largely defined the office. Seeing as how he did so in a very good way he deserves a lot of credit. It needn't have been the case.

>>38094668
Who do they consider to be the best if not him?

>>38094620
I wish there was a president without partisan alignments again

>>38094687
I think people usually rate Lincoln, FDR, and maybe Jackson

>>38094620

Gee I dunno, maybe being the first president he fully understood what they expected of him?

>>38094687
There are many different lists; this is a perennial question. Lincoln is usually regarded as the best. He saw the nation through it's darkest hour and the most serious threat to our continued existence. Franklin Roosevelt is also usually regarded very highly since he saw the nation through it's second lowest point and the only other true existential threat it ever faced. Both these men retained the restraint and the magnanimity of Washington even though they faced circumstances that were extraordinarily more difficult than anything that Washington faced.

Fpbp my dude

>>38094620
Over time we got more and more bullshit rules. His hands weren't tied.

>>38094705
Jackson is a real wildcard of a pick. It's almost always Lincoln for the top spot, then maybe Teddy, and depending on your political leanings either FDR or Reagan.

>>38094687
There is no best president. Now days they deliberately go back and forth between pacifying the lefts with left presidents, then pacifying the rights with a right winger president. There's no point in even discussing the mascots.

>>38094751
FDR?? Jfc. Polk and Nixon mog him.

>>38094705
Who the fuck would say Jackson was a good president? Why would anyone even think that?

>>38094808
he was pretty badass and he got rid of the injuns. I personally like him

>>38094790
>Nixon

All he did was China. FDR helped get us out of the depression

>best
>politician
How do you even make this claim? It's far too complex to even hope to get anywhere.

>>38094734
Obama faced hard time. Does that mean he'll be seen as a top president too?

Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, the Roosevelts, and Kennedy are usually the go to presidents. People who call on Jackson, Truman, or Eisenhower are either just being contrarian or misinformed. Being an interesting person does not make you a good President.

Reaganites are straight retarded.

>>38094825
Nixon was one of the greatest political minds of the 20th century. FDR destroyed america with the new deal. Choice is obvious desu.

>>38094790
>>38094825
Nixon did some good things, the rapprochement with China being probably the most notable.

He also had deep pathologies and did extraordinary amounts of damage to the office that he held. A lot of that damage still exists and will probably never be fully recovered from. More than any other president he moved us away from the republic described in the constitution and towards an overly powerful president. That trend has been in play for almost the entire history of the nation, but he advanced it more than anyone. He fully developed a culture of secrecy and subterfuge that had been lingering in the executive branch since Truman, but which had, before that time, largely remained inchoate. That culture has never gone away. Shortly before becoming president he also engaged in actions that constituted overt treason. I don't think he can be considered a good president, let alone a great one.

>>38094620
killing a lot of people makes you famous usually

>>38094836
I think that Obama will be seen as a decent president. But the times he faced were not anything like what was faced by Lincoln or Roosevelt and he still didn't rise to the occasion in a manner anything like what those men did.

>>38094882
The New Deal didn't destroy America it was the Truman doctrine. The New Deal at its worst would have restructured the Democratic party, Truman undermined global democracy and America's moral leverage in the world. He straight fucked us, he started the cold war.

>>38094808
He's also the only one to ever get America out of debt.

>>38094836
Well, Obama will be remembered as the first black president who was decent (his memory might even be elevated considering Trump in office), but he failed to fix the US economy well enough post GFC which led to populist candidates like Trump.

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Who's your favourite olden days person?

Greatest thing Washington did is step down. Not that he was bad, it just set a precedent

>>38094705
FDR is the worst president in American history.

>>38094734
>Nazi Germany
>existential threat to the US
Please, anon. They didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

>>38095130
America's first dictator desu

>>38094825
The war got us out of the depression m8

>>38095155
That isn't actually what I was referring to. I think the more dangerous time was before the attack on Pearl Harbor. During the Great Depression there were a considerable amount of people in this country who felt that it had been proven that our experiment with free society had failed. There were many people who felt that the authoritarians in Europe (be they fascists or socialists) had it figured out. Editorials advancing exactly these viewpoints were common. There were a lot of people who wanted and expected FDR to declare a state of national emergency and suspend constitutional law after his election. He didn't and nor did he flounder and panic the way Hoover had.

Remember that the Soviet Union was also a victor in WWII. It was never guaranteed that we would remain a free society.

>the great depression
>dustbowl
>commies
>fascists
>polio
>lesbo wife
>japs
FDR really did have it tough

>>38095314
Don't forget anarchists too. It was a time of unprecedented political violence in America. Imagine Donald Trump in that situation.

>>38095330
no one in the 20th century took anarchism seriously.

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>I rate Jackson
>I rate Reagan
>I don't rate Teddy Roosevelt

>>38095351
Well, I'm sorry, but this is factually incorrect. The Great Depression was about the only period in this nation's history when anarchism had any serious weight to it. I'd encourage you to research things such as Industrial Workers of the World or the Modern School

Killed a bunch of French people for no reason.

Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwZDRB3tZo

>>38095411
anarcho communism is just marxism ya idiot

>>38095448
I'm not interested in your identity politics.

>>38095234
The Fascists did have it figured out. Free society is cancerous shitskin lover

>>38094620
>first president
>no political party tool
>general of the British rebellion
The dude was a true patriot.

>>38094906
Nixon was the greatest political mind America has ever seen. The elites didn't like him because of how dominant he was over the american electorate and the threat he posed to their power.

>>38094620
false. William henry harrison is objectively the best president of all time.

>>38094971
I would have agreed with you but I don't think history will look kindly on obama. Turned the dems into the party of Wall Street bankers (corporate bailouts) and Silicon Valley billionaires. Approved party strategy of stirring up racial hatred to distract working class minorities from noticing dem leaders supporting bush style tax cuts for the rich.

>>38094687
Depends entirely on their political views. They're about as professional as music critics.

>>38097682
Bill Clinton started that shit because Demos hadn't won a presidency since LBJ, except for 1 term of Carter, that's basically only 4 years in power in 24 years. They had to sell out because they needed big business to give them money and support and shit.