Why aren't you a leftcom yet?

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Ancap 4lyfe

>>37981475
Why is it anganized

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>>37981496
>AnCraps
>AnAnything

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>>37981553
Honestly this.
Communism is the worst shit ever, but AnCap is close.
Fascism is the way to go.

why not post politics in /pol/?
Are you too scared to have your opinions dismantled and thoroughly rebuked like the people who start anime threads outside of /a/?

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>>37981553
this, how about secular liberalism? it seems be have pretty good results so far

>>37982738
>dismantled and thoroughly rebuked
alot of the people in /pol/ have genuine brain damage, they wouldn't stop reeeing about white genocide when i was trying to talk about brexit.

Lefties complains abuot /pol being dumbs, but every thread they start there get BTFO so they have to bait other boards to their 19th century failed utopian ideology

>>37982817
pol is dumb, but so are the commies

>want to bash the fash
>afraid that the fash will bash me
well, this situation sucks.

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>>37982886
the police will beat you as they should, go ahead though, videos of riot police beating down commies is always fun.

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>>37981496
>AnCapistan

kys

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>>37982817
But they don't get btfo. People post trailer trash memes and storefront shit, and eventually the thread fills up with a series of pictures of Asian models until it hits the bump or image limit or whatever and goes away. At least that's what happened the last couple of times I've done it. And the Asian model pictures come fast and all from the same set like it's a coordinated thing with a bunch of IP addresses...anyway, any decent leftie shit that gets posted there, that's what happens to it. I just stay away.

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Simple and free market capitalism seems to work pretty well

>>37982965
Unfortunately that's never been tried.

>>37982942
communists shouldn't be the ones complaining about people going hungry, they're pretty good at causing famines ;)

>>37982974
America runs under Free market capitalism. (Granted, there is a lot of red tape in a lot of places, but it's still free market capitalism)

>>37982965
true free market capitalism doesn't really exist anywhere, we currently live in neo-liberalism in the west.

>>37983015
it's not though, if it was all the free market capitalist's wouldn't be advocating for the implementation of free market capitalism, america is a neo-liberal corporatist system.

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>>37982996
>I know you are but what am I?
>>37983015
What are agriculture subsidies? I mean, for a country that's supposed to be capitalist, there are a lot of ways for working people to be forced to give money to massive businesses.

>>37982928
>the police will beat you as they should
it's for the greater good, man, you wouldn't understand it :^)

>>37983019
Neo-liberalism isn't a Economy or government system. I don't understand what you're trying to say.

>>37983055
>Neo-liberalism
yes it is
>a modified form of liberalism tending to favour free-market capitalism
just google it d00d

>>37983045
As i said, there is a lot of Red Tape here and there, but at it's core, America is a capitalist system.

>>37982699
Libertarian is better, excess of government power leads to despotism.

>>37983090
Alright, True, True. I'll admit that i was wrong. But it's still Capitalism.

>>37983105
in general but hardcore libertarians are cringe and just as dumb as the commies
>AM I BEING DETAINED!? CAN I HAVE YOUR ID NUMBER OFFICER?!

>>37983090
Kind of Ironic that NEOLIBERALISM is capitalist, huh?

>>37983137
hardcore pretty much anythings are cancer
most of the libertarians i know are just dudes that smoke weed, like guns, and think the political system blows

>>37983122
of course it's a capitalist system but not free market capitalism, FMC is the extreme, one step before AN-Cap, there are no truly FMC nations because they are almost ungovernable.

>>37983105
Libertarian's are the worst and only a milder form of fucking AnCaps. Chomsky refuted this as more right-wing wishful thinking decades ago.

>>37983145
no? why would that be ironic, capitalism has always been the best match for liberalism.

>>37983194
Usually, most liberals today are Communist or socialist.

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>>37983092
No, I'm sorry, this isn't capitalism at all. Have you read Adam Smith?

What you call red tape are laws and systems designed to extract money from the working class and give it to the upper class, and prop up systems that should have failed long ago. America is capitalist when it benefits the ruling class, and collectivist when it benefits the working class.

Case in point, the health insurance system (and people say insurance, but the purpose of insurance is to make you whole in the event of an unexpected loss, and medical care is not an unexpected loss and health insurance doesn't make you whole) should have been allowed to collapse by now. Even hardcore capitalists believe in socialization of essential services, but what happened when the health insurance system was in danger of collapse was we forced some of the poorest people in the country to give money to some of the richest people on the planet instead of socializing it as an essential service. Essential services should not be subject to market forces, but since it makes the ruling class rich, we have the ACA.

Similarly, there's no reason why agriculture shouldn't be subject to market forces in this our current year, since the small farmer has been long since relegated to the niche and massive corporate superfarms now supply the majority of our food. Yet here we are giving massive ag subsidiesrations that don't need the help.

We're globalist with capital and protectionist with labor. We've got American workers competing against Chinese workers who make a dollar an hour, and blaming our own workers for being greedy when they want to make a living wage.

How is America capitalist?

>>37981475
wtf, what is wrong with opportunities?

If you had an opportunity and looked back at me I'd say "it's cool, go for it bro!"

>>37983172
It's laissez-faire capitalism, which is kind of like FMC, it just has red tape here and there, so there are more regulations. Granted it's not COMPLETELY free, but it's still FMC. Er, well, more like MFMC (Mostly free market capitalism)

>>37983283
they aren't liberals, not by the political science definition at least, though i know the term has lost a lot of it's meaning in public discussion. liberalism is closest to libertarianism in modern politics. Secular liberalism built modern Europe and america, fueled the renascence and modernized the world over.

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>>37983313
So I hope you're forgiving of socialists when they say that real socialism hasn't been tried.

>>37983307
America is capitalist because I can go outside, and start a lemonade stand, and if that lemonade stand is profitable, It will stay Open, however, if My lemonade stand is NOT profitable, it will Not stay open. It's still capitalism. and when i say Red Tape, I mean Regulations. Yes, there are unfair laws, Yes, there are Unfair systems, but that's the governments fault. America is Obviously a capitalist system.

>>37983341
Lel, Socialism Simply doesn't work. Yes, real socialism has been tried (Take a look at Brazil)

>>37983332
When I say Liberals, I usually mean Modern liberals. I don't like modern liberals. I do like libertarians, And I do like Classic liberals. Because todays left is much different then the left in the past.

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>>37983349
That's an awfully low bar you've set. Especially since what you've just described is socialism. I own my own business as well, but I am very much not a capitalist. Workers control the means of production in your example.
>>37983390
That's the thing, I've lived in Brazil, there's nothing socialist about it. But here you are saying America is capitalist and Brazil is socialist when America is demonstrably not capitalist and Brazil has never been socialist in the history of the nation.

>>37983445
>socialism
>a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Look at the cow example:
>You have two cows, you give ONE to your neighbor
Socialism is much different then Capitalism.

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>>37983497
>cow example
You're not making sense, Anon. This is what happens on /pol/ too, people here just aren't well informed enough to do anything but repeat memes and talking points. That's why /pol/ is so homogeneous and you don't see too many leftie threads.

>>37983445
Brazil was Very socialist for a while, and in that time, it went down the drain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhR9i5CGkA
Check it out Home slice

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>>37983549
>Let me tell you about your country
You watched a video. That's great, but you must understand that this doesn't qualify you to give a reasoned opinion on the topic, it qualifies you to do what you just did: post a link to the video. I'm aware of this argument, I'm aware of PCdoB's rebuttal. If I wanted to argue against the video, I would make a comment on the video.

>>37983603
Alright.
I forgot the point of this argument.

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>>37983652
Exactly my point. Low effort defines political discourse on the internet.

>>37983680
Well, I can answer that picture
Assuming you just hand everyone everything they need, then there is NO motivation to work. The reason we work is to earn something

>>37983730
The futurology argument is that we should define a minimum standard that people shouldn't live below (otherwise they become a drain on resources). People need adequate housing, food, and medical care. The absolute minimum. Universal basic income takes care of that, and then we eliminate WIC, SNAP, Housing subsidies, and all those social programs that are complicated and expensive to administer. Then we eliminate the minimum wage and open labor to market forces. Imagine being able to pay people $3 an hour. We'd have close to zero unemployment, and our tax base would be massive.

>>37981475
Honestly i dont really have a political affilation.
Seems like a fools trap to get into pointless stuff like that.
If anything, i suppose i lean right, because i want to keep my gun rights and all.
At the same time i do agree with liberals that minimum wage should be increased.
That would most likely fix alot of the problems with poverty in large populated states with really expensive living conditions.

>>37983888
Im not the other anon, but what youre saying sounds great on paper but in practise would never work in America.
Bacllash for this sort of thing would be pretty massive.

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>>37983984
It might happen whether we like it or not. Our productivity has gone up 43% over the past 15 years, but the number of hours we've worked has remained about the same. Drastic changes will be absolutely necessary in our lifetime to prevent us from becoming a third world shithole.

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>>37982942
>waaah waaaaaaaah people die and that's sad
the real curse in this world is life, friend

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>>37984061
That was a great comment, Anon. I'm glad you're here to demonstrate why nobody talks seriously about leftism on 4chan.

>>37984044
well memed my tovarich

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>>37983888
>Imagine being able to pay people $3 an hour.
Who the fuck would work for $3 an hour if they already had a secure income? And you realize that between price increases now that everyone has more disposable income and tax hikes to pay for this shit that $3 (which is now $0.75 after payroll taxes and costs the employer $25) is going to be worth less than the paper it's printed on. Does /leftypol/ just stay up at night thinking of new ways to crash economies or something?

Everyone in this thread is a dumb nigger.

>hurr fuck capitalism
>hurr fuck communism

It's not like posting on a Manchurian Duck Fishing Forum to debate is going to do anything.

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>>37984202
That comment is a great way of showing how buttblasted and fearful of the future you are, but like I said, we may have no other choice.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-04-01/a-basic-income-is-smarter-than-minimum-wages

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Hey lads ! Never heard about the beautiful world of AnPrim ?

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>>37984283
>buttblasted and fearful of the future you are
My Sides Toppa Gurren Lagann, you people had covert Soviet support and were bombing people in the '70s and you never got your revolution off the ground here. If you couldn't do it then you stand no chance now. You can't even make a coherent argument on fucking 4chan.
>Nazi terror and concentration/extermination camps 1939-45: 25 million
Oh shit, was this b8 the whole time?

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>>37984497
Is this what you guys mean by btfo? Because it just looks like autofellatio.

>>37984354
This anon knows what's up
orighbvc

Strasserism is superior.

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>>37984567
>ur buttblasded :DDDD
>Bloomberg article
>shitty b8 infograph
What argument was I supposed to be addressing again?

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>>37981475
>not being a black supremacist
Gona kill you whyt boi!

>>37983549
>PragerU
neocon propaganda outlet