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Whats going on everyone?

I had a startling thought last night, and I cant really seem to shake it.

I remember when I was young, 5 and upwards, I would wake up every morning at 6am or so, and be FULL OF ENERGY! Ready to spend my morning on the carpet playing legos, reading books or quietly turning my dads PS1 on while they slept for what felt like years.

Now, Im the age my parents were when I was young.

And holy fuck, getting up in the morning is a chore. It NEVER feels like Ive had enough sleep, Im never as active and awake as I remember being as a kid. Fuck, why cant i energy?

Anyway, Im sitting here trying to install Watch Dogs 2, but I think the crack I have is dodgy, it wont fucking open.

Its 11:30am, and I havent done anything fun or worthwhile yet.
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>TFW getting million dollar inheritance, just don't know when

The settlement should be finalized at around October this year till beginning of this year but no actual idea whether or not we're getting money soon after that

I'd have killed myself if it wasn't for this money coming but I'm already 26 and I just want to make my life better already
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>>37762376
what are you going to do with it?

Do you think a good idea would be shoving it all into an interest bearing account and living off as little as you can?

a million is a lot of money, but sadly without proper care its not enough.
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>>37762301

>I remember when I was young, 5 and upwards, I would wake up every morning at 6am or so

I vividly remember getting up at 6am on the weekends, getting a big bowl of Kix and Cheerios mixed together, and sitting on my ass playing SNES games while everyone else was still asleep. School was shitty, but I always looked forward to the weekends.

32 now and I'm just getting drunk in my apartment browsing /r9k/. I'm back to getting up at 6am on a daily basis, even on the weekends when I really do want to sleep in now.
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>>37762454
>buy a house
>buy secound house and rent it oy as continual second income
>find a perfect job to work part time at to cover food and fun money
>travel

Ive worked out costs and its entirely viable to live a good level life, like the life of a high middle income family lives and that would be enjoyable and not hedonistic. I'm also saving a lot of money by not having children in the future.

My money will last me nicely and live the life without worrying over bills
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>>37762565
You should put a good chunk in index funds and let it sit.
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>>37762301
Energy changes over time. i'm 40 now and I can't sleep past 6 or 7, even if I go to sleep at 5. I'm not sure if that's just me, but I remember my grandfather and father not sleeping much either.
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>>37762682
>i'm 40 now and I can't sleep past 6 or 7
hmmm this does sound like my parents NOW.

Its just startling how they were the same as I am now, then.
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>>37762565
I wish I could do that minus the job. Not working and living as a hermit for the rest of my life while being completely provided for by passive income is my absolute dream.
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This world has broken me.
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>>37763038
>This world has broken me
why, whats wrong little dude?
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>>37762609
I'm certainly talking to a financial specialist before I do anything but I'm not gonna take an anons advice

>>37762952
You go ego mad after doing neet for too long, a job Keeps me sane and out of the house and in reality.
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>>37762301
24.3 here.

I feel like I'm addicted to being a loser/shut-in. I workout, I read, I study pick-up/dating material, live as a minimalist, have a comfy job, live with my best friend, have an almost paid off car and am soon moving into a small condo.

However, I just can't bring myself to go make friends or meet women. I don't even logically fear rejection since I'm have general self-confidence and can just go to places with people who have similar interest and lifestyles, but instead I keep 4chaning and porning into the night while listening to podcast.

Does anyone else have this problem? Up until about 23 I was basically a beta (for lack of a better term) my whole life, experiencing high amounts of bullying a rejection. Now that's over, people grow up (usually) and I function as an independent and assertive adult. But I still can't make the social leap. If this just years of negative brain conditioning self-sabotaging me, low social self-esteem, genuine deep-level introversion...all 3?

What the fuck do I do adultbots?
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>>37763919
Have you ever thought you dont make the leap because, really, you dont WANT to?

You might SAY you want to do something else. And clearly, you are capable of doing things; you study, hold a job and are a /fit/izen.

I think you like this life. Lord knows I do.
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Think I have developed anxiety. Anyone have it and can answer some questions?
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I have thought that, but I have difficulty understanding it because I do get lonely from time to time and I don't understand why I wouldn't want to get laid/get a girlfriend because I'm capable of getting one (especially a monogamous introvert girl).

However, I feel as if I could live in Psuedo Hermitude for the rest of my life and feel fine about it.

I'm truly confused about the whole thing.

Do you understand?

Tell me what it's like living your life, it sounds so peaceful and calm.
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>>37764259
Paranoid anxiety here, what do you want to know?
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>>37764425
do you ever feel your heart racing/skipping/acting weird? Feel like you are about to have a heart attack/die
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>>37764795
Yeah your heart races, you get sweaty, start shaking, etc.
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>>37764830
I think I just developed this. It scares the shit out of me, I don't want to die
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>>37764334
>Tell me what it's like living your life, it sounds so peaceful and calm.
Its constant worrying about my future.

Am I studying enough for these certificates? Will I get an infosec job when I move like I hope? Am I going to be fat forever?

Its more the fact I realise I have three friends because I dont want to have more. I dont go outside and socialise, because I dont enjoy doing it. I stopped wishing to be the type of person who goes outside and instead now wish sometimes I dont have to go outside.

Age does funny things to us.
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>>37764862
Interesting. I guess I have a hard time letting it go.
How do you feel about women?
How old are you?
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>>37764895
>How do you feel about women?
I have 99% of them, as my sexual experiences in the past have given me a sour view of them.

I find most of them vapid, shallow and far too easy to fuck. Boring; extremely few I have encountered are able to keep a real conversation going.

That is why I like my missus so much; she is good to talk to, and I enjoy being friends with her.

I am 25.
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>>37764945
>I have 99% of them
fucks sake.

I meant I hate 99% of them.
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>>37764945
>That is why I like my missus so much;
Get out.
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>>37764989
>>37764945
How did you find her? I did alright with women in High School but things dropped off after that.

I don't actually like the idea of picking up women, going on dates, dating in general, etc. It all seems so stiff, formal and inorganic.I would much rather meet a girl, learn about her over some time and then date her rather than the spray and prey tactic.

I would have to agree with you. I don't actually like most women. They tend to be extremely one-dimensional and shallow. They also tend to put on this fake-nice facade when in fact they're far more attuned to manipulation than men and could cheat/hookup with the majority of men at anytime. I don't think they're evil but just objectively less likable than men.

I would rather find that one great girl, not in a oneitis sense, I just don't care about playing the game deep down.
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>>37765095
>I don't actually like the idea of picking up women
me either, I dont know how.

Ive only gotten girls through online dating. Tinder, OKCupid, Plenty Of Fish, err some weird one called oasis where I found a female beta orbiter.

Ive had sex with 35 girls, all concentrated in a 5/6 month span. This was both an effort to find one that was worth pursuing, and because it was like unlocking a cheat code.

I dont know how to pick up in real life. I tried, for a lot of years and just gave up. I avoided online dating because of the stigma attatched to it until I just tried one day. And it works. Maybe thats why its shunned in society; because its easy and effective.

>I don't actually like the idea of going on dates, dating in general, etc. It all seems so stiff, formal and inorganic
That depends how you do it. Some dates I had simply involved picking up a girl from her house late at night and driving around talking, going to parks at night to really learn about one another.

I only took girls on a "real" traditional date once Id determined I wanted to keep them. That was very rare.
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>>37765357
>Ive had sex with 35 girls, all concentrated in a 5/6 month span.
GEET OUUUUUUUUT
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>>37765357
That's extremely interesting.

What kind of cheat code did you unlock? How did you discover the truth? Any Advice?

Honestly online dating is such a new concept that I feel great shame for not doing it the traditional way, which requires more courage.
Did you experience this?

Maybe you were so successful about it because you had background info about them (i.e a filter) rather than just doing random street pick-up?
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>tfw 26 y/o NEET shut-in with no friends, no goals/aspirations, and treatment-resistant depression
>Spend each day browsing the Internet with occasional breaks for vidya.

I wish, I really wish I could just fucking be happy in my current state. Just live a life of quiet hedonism and be satisfied with it. Be glad that I have no debts, no physical ailments, and live in a comfy medium-sized town in the U.S. with little to no crime.

But goddamnit, there's this feeling deep down that I need to be doing something differently. This feeling is strong enough that it's at the back of my mind almost constantly, but not so strong as to compel me to take action. It screams at me, "Anon, you HAVE to leave your comfort zone! You HAVE to start taking risks! Stop sitting around like a lazy sack of shit and DO SOMETHING! RAAAAAAGH!"

But would I really be more satisfied if I had a job? Or a wife & family? Or friends?

Every job/career just seems like drudgery to me. I've done aptitude tests, but hated the prospect of working in any of the fields they recommend to me. I cannot help but think that getting a job would always make me feel worse, regardless of working conditions or pay. There aren't any major purchases I feel compelled to work towards being able to afford, so why bother?

A wife & family? I have never even had a girlfriend, let alone any friend at all. I feel no inherent desire for romance, love, or even just sex in my life. Perhaps that makes me an anomaly among humanity. The thought of having offspring just seems outright ludicrous.

Friends? Socializing just wears me out. I hate having to take someone else's thoughts and feelings into account when I speak to them. I can be polite and affable to, say, service staff, but anything more personal just gets uncomfortable for me.

I don't know what to do. This fucking struggle between wanting to accept NEETdom & feeling compelled to make radical life changes seems neverending. I feel like a broken human.
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>>37765456
>What kind of cheat code did you unlock?
This place used to have the right ideas about life, before something happened and the disgusting parasites came to claim the board.

>you need to level up
You cant take on Baal when youre a level 5 fucking noob.

>practice gf
You might not be attracted to the 3/10 hamplanet, but she might be attracted to you. Swipe right/say yes to EVERYTHING with a vagina.

>find random weirdos on /soc/ and practice talking to them, how to make conversation
I spent a good month talking to weirdos and literal actual gays, constantly, all day, every day until I was better at conversing.

>you dont need money
I spent exceptionally little money on these girls. Drive through mcdonalds SOMETIMES, street market food OCCASIONALLY.

>they want a friend
And you probably do too. There is nothing wrong with just hanging out with them.

>they do NOT want to see your doodle until its time to fuck
For the love of fuck no.

>>37765456
>rather than just doing random street pick-up?

Fucked if I know mate. Maybe its because Im comfortable behind a keyboard. I used to hunt bars and clubs for years and never had ANY success with ANY females. The one I did get to go back to her house for a pool party after the club shut made me cry when she said how ridiculous it was I worked at a call center.
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>>37765578
>there's this feeling deep down that I need to be doing something differently
Do you live with your parents?

Perhaps its them who are feeding you this energy?

Ive also noticed popular culture in the last decade has shifted into "MORE PRODUCTIVITY, MORE DREAMS AND GOALS WRAHHHH BE BETTER (by buying my products thatll do fucking nothing)"

Its a marketing tactic for a new breed of products.

If everyone has become so productive, so smart, so great, then where is everyones lambo? Why is everyone so sad?
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>>37765695
I live with my elderly, widowed father, who has stated outright that he doesn't care that I'm living in his paid-off house. I do help with chores and mowing the lawn, for what it's worth.

He's told me he just wants me to be happy. He has always been the opposite of the stereotypical hard-ass American father who kicks his kids out the day they turn 17/18 and tells them to become self-sufficient (which honestly probably would have been better for my personal development).

He puts very little pressure on me to do anything, but I'm sure he would want me to get a job and start a family (I'm our family's only son, after all).

My mother's death from brain cancer really broke him (and me). She was just about to retire and they were going to tour Europe together and make the most of their twilight years. But it was not meant to be.
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>>37765456
That sounds like pretty straight-forward advice. Really most dating advice boils down to "stop acting like a little bitch or a creep".

Why did it the you so long to drop going to bars/clubs? Why don't you think it was successful? What was different about going online?

Also audibly loled at you crying. Cmon, it's funny now.
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>>37765854
>Why did it the you so long to drop going to bars/clubs?
I went often because the work place I was at was right in the heart of the nightclib district. After a day of being yelled at by people over the phone in my shitty call centre job, drinking was always at the top of my list.

>Why don't you think it was successful?
Because as nice as bagging 35 holes sound, I still come to 4chan, after a fucking decade. I cant not be a slightly weird, probably autistic man.

>What was different about going online?
Real chads arent there. They are in the pubs and clubs.

>Cmon, it's funny now.
Its been half a decade, so I too can see the funny side. Especially when I know the woman who did that now has a baby with a dude she fucked at the back of a nightclub, and doesnt know who it was.

Maybe my peepee would have fallen off if I actually did fuck her.

>>37765850
You poor guy, and your poor dad.

Are you burnt out on your content? Do you still consume anything new?

I think maybe its time you started making something. You know what would be cool? If you downloaded game maker and made something.

Not so you can get a job, but so you can sit there and think, I fucking made this.

Id like to learn how to build a computer from breadboarded parts. I dont have a clue how, and thatd be something cool, I think.
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Anyone else get the urge to breed after hitting 25?

I'm 27 now and every time I see an even remotely acceptable female my thoughts immediately turn to breeding her. At first it was just a passing thought, but it went from "I'd hit that" to "God I want to fucking breed her", like some overwhelming fetish. Fucking kill me now.
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>>37765957
I feel no compulsion to make or create anything, apart from long-winded shitposts on an imageboard for bored losers. I have no curiosity about the inner workings of anything. There's enough variety on the Internet and with vidya that I generally always have something at least slightly different to consume.

I just wish playing vidya was satisfying to me to the extent that it was, say, 15 years ago.
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>>37765997

Sounds like what a normally-functioning human male would think while they're in their prime breeding years.

Then again, this is coming from an abnormally-functioning human male with a libido so low I have to force myself even to masturbate.
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>>37766094
>I feel no compulsion to make or create anything
Have you thought about going to /fit/ and taking up weights?
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>>37766256
I tried a 5x5 lifting program for a couple months, but it didn't make me feel any better. Just tired, sore, and sweaty. So I gave it up.

It doesn't matter to me what my body looks like since I'm not actively trying to impress anyone. Now, if I wanted a girlfriend or something, hey, that might motivate me a bit more. But I don't.

Yeah, I'll probably die earlier by not exercising or eating healthy, but that's feeling more and more like a good thing rather than bad.
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studying programming in the hope that i can get a real career
>tfw i'll probably get rejected for being too old
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>>37765957
Did you have any success at the bars?

I work as bouncer on the weekends. Sometimes girls will walk up and talk to me, touch me, look at me even though they boyfriends, etc. But deep down I just don't care that much.

Doesn't it bother you that most girls actually are just holes? I don't have a waifu seeking mindset but an Introverted, Monogamous girl sounds pretty great. I just don't feel like dealing with hoes.

Did you feel shame at some point for being that way? I'm an extreme loner and have an unironic Tim and Eric style sense of humor. Most "normies" are actually nice but just extremely fucking boring. However I don't feel that I've accepted my power-level despite the fact that I get along with people fairly well and like connection.

I honestly have almost no desire to succeed and love living a simple life with maximized freedom. I have no desire to go to college, get married or have kids. I don't even think about it. I feel like a genuine pariah despite the fact that I don't reee.
What about you?
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>>37766371
>Did you have any success at the bars?
No, I thought I made that clear a few posts ago.

>Doesn't it bother you that most girls actually are just holes?
Not now Ive found one I want to keep.

>Did you feel shame at some point for being that way?
Yeah, especially when some of the girls would slutshame me for sleeping around so much so rapidly.

>I honestly have almost no desire to succeed and love living a simple life with maximized freedom. I have no desire to go to college, get married or have kids. I don't even think about it. I feel like a genuine pariah despite the fact that I don't reee.

I hope you get this and dont become depressed like >>37766324 this poor guy.

>What about you?

I dont like children, I never have. My goals are to get into infosec and out of IT hardware repair, become top of my field, travel to Japan and experience the place for a minimum of 6 months (I have no desire to actually live there mind you), and become a normal weight for the first time in my life, ever.

I think I dont want kids because I want to stay selfish and manchildish. I bought a dozen boosters of Yugioh yesterday, and am looking on ebay for a copy of the Jak and Daxter HD port for ps3.
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>>37766574
Well anon, you seem like a genuinely cool guy.

I have to go to bed now, thanks for all of the unintentional motivation to be myself. I hope you stay anti-natal and get to go to Japan. Thanks for all of the advice and sticking around too.
Peace man.
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>>37766662
sleep well dude.
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>>37764851
Well if you just developed anxiety, it shouldn't be too difficult to find the underlying cause. What was going on in your life when the anxiety symptoms started appearing?
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>>37762565

That's a solid plan, but can you really buy 2 houses for 1 million?
For a second I envied you, but then realized that I wouldn't even have fun doing that.
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>>37765997

Opposite for me.

>see woman
>realize how pathetic i am and that there's no point for even trying to date her

Now I get actually scared at the thought of having children, because I know I am not capable to handle it. I actually have a girlfriend and I am afraid of telling her, because she'll break up with me, but I guess I should because I don't want to feel bad for wasting her time.
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>>37766348

No one cares how old you are if you have the knowledge.
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My dog is struggling to walk anymore.
The possibility of him being put down this week is high and I don't know how to process the fact I'm going to lose the closest thing I've had in the last 14 years
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>>37766894
A good way to look at it is that you've probably given that dog the best life an animal could ask for and he enjoyed every second of it. There are dogs in China being boiled alive and your pupper has been super comfy his/her whole life, which allowed them to live as long as they did.

There are worse fates for a pupper than living a long comfy life and drifting off to sleep with the person you love most making the decision for you so you won't suffer.
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>>37766945
Thanks.
I've spent a lot of him with him just patting him/talking to him over the years and just giving him attention.
Aside from my great grandmother I've never dealt with the death of something close to me.
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>>37767016
When the time comes, it's ok to feel sad that your friend is gone, but you should also be happy because you were very good to him and he lived to be an old man with no strife because of you. You're a good person deep down.
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>>37766894
I know that feel. Had to put my old cat to sleep last week. I've been really emotional since. Never thought I'd cry so hard over an animal.
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>>37767078
>Stray cat comes to home
>Feed it etc
>Continues to come over
>It ends up moving in
>Can't even pat it because it has nippon steel claws
>Desex it/give it the standard stuff for cats
>10 years later it gets a tick
>Hundreds for a vet visit
>Still going fine 4 years after that
>Allows me to pat her quite a lot now
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>>37767147
Mine was a stray too. I was the only thing she trusted for most of her life, running away from everyone else. Made sure she died in my arms. The vet that did the job was pregnant. I like to believe that is her next life.
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>>37767221
>>37767147
>>37767078
>>37767054
I didn't expect these feels
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>>37762301
Just had this girl I've been in a comfy platonic relationship with for the better part of a decade blow up at me out of nowhere because she doesn't "think I value our friendship" or some shit that much. She does this every few years when she starts feeling like hot shit, starts dating, or meets a new friend. She bails for a few months to a year before awkwardly sending a needy fucking text.

My life is a fucking shitshow mess even though I'm objectively doing ok (top 10 PhD program in my STEM field), so I just tolerate the bullshit knowing that for the vast majority of the time I can just hit her up and take my mind off things. A real relationship with a woman scares the fuck out of me because I don't know how I'd manage my expectations or my time. I'm KHV whose dad's first marriage ended when he was in grad school for this very reason.

I'm getting older (and looking it) and crawling ever more completely into my work, kicking off any relationship to people or the world or my community. I don't even try to justify it anymore, I just work harder out of spite. People think I'm a hard charging, ambitious professional. In reality, I only work that hard to make the feelings of guilt and self-doubt a bit quieter. I am always on edge and I worry it shows too much or at awkward times.

There are no jobs in academia, so I will probably end up burning out and trying to land some industry job hoping some MBA chad in a suit remembers to lube up before he fucks me up the ass with unreasonable deadlines and project proposals. I will never have kids.

I will never be in a truly loving relationship with a woman. Within the next six months, I will probably try recreationally huffing oxytocin while masturbating to pictures of child-bearing age women making loving, intense eye contact. My life is a farce and I am only now getting fully cut in on the joke.
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Hey animal dying anons.

When you feel youre ready for a new companion, please get one from the RSPCA/shelter.
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>>37762301
I'm having a bit of an existential crisis.

>Why live?

Well, to get a girl. Life is better with a partner right? Just get a girl, everything will be awesome.

Except all research shows that getting married or even having a long term partner makes you less happy.

Everyone I know that's married doesn't actually like their partner. You can see it in the way they converse with each other. They don't actually think the other person is very interesting. They're just together because being single means you're a loser. And they're used to being together. But they don't actually like it. It's just convenient.

So what's the point?

I'd love to have someone around that makes things interesting. I don't want to have a beach fire by myself. I don't want to go hiking by myself. I don't want to go to Iceland by myself. I don't want to do all these things by myself.

But I also don't want to settle for someone I merely tolerate and don't actually deeply respect. I don't want to be around someone who doesn't stimulate me intellectually. Not that I'm a genius or anything. I just want a girl that can keep up a conversation and make me laugh, cause I'm kind of a funny fucker and I'm pretty good at making people laugh. There are very few women out there who are genuinely amusing. The kind of person you enjoy interacting with because they're like a sitcom character or something.

But those kind of girls don't exist. If they do, they're snatched up in an instant.

And no. Settling isn't an option. I know people who settled. They got the dumb boring fat loyal chick. She can cook! She's simple! She's low maintenance! And every time it was a fucking disaster. It might take 5 years. It might take 10 years. But the easy way out always ends in tragedy. You can't get a $250 Craigslist car and make it all the way across the continent. Somethings going to break down and then you're fucked.

I just want someone who I honest to god like talking to.
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>>37767640
>Except all research shows that getting married or even having a long term partner makes you less happy.
where the fuck is this research, because this is the first time i have heard this in my life.

>I'd love to have someone around that makes things interesting. I don't want to have a beach fire by myself. I don't want to go hiking by myself. I don't want to go to Iceland by myself. I don't want to do all these things by myself.
You need friends, not a partner.

>I just want someone who I honest to god like talking to.
It took me a lot of searching through shit to find one. God speed anon.
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I just had a dream my best friend died, but then I got back with (((her)))

and then I woke up

save me from this hell
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>>37762301

Pretty good.
I work 6 days with the 7th being a total pause when I can just drool my stupidity on the internet.
No I don't care about calendars or days of the week. If I have to work tomorrow, Sunday, I'm working.
No, I cant sleep less than 8 hours with a maximum of 10 ( really tired ). No, I don't care about the time either. If I'm up, I'm working. If I'm tired, I wrap up the urgent things that need attended to and then go to sleep.
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These threads are comfy and motivating to me, cause it reminds me I'm not alone in this struggle
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>>37767804
These feels are exactly why I try to make one every day. Its a nice feel.

>>37767783
Where do you work?

>>37767744
She died and then you got back with her, while she was dead? Thats weird dude.
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>>37767856
No I meant my IRL best friend. Who is a male, and I haven't seen in years of course.

Same goes with her.

lol just fucking kill me.
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>tranny
>turning 27 soon
>always wanted to do my best to be as pure as a tranny can be and not fall into stereotypes, to be an living example that you can be this way and still be a good person
>feel old and lonely and sometimes wish I was a slut when I had the chance
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>>37767948
>tranny
You were already a bad person when you chose this lifestyle.
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>>37767856

I run a small site with automotive journalism in my city. It's pretty much a local show. Also, I affiliated my site with a car parts shop so we sell various stuff. From time to time I make interviews with local people that have done something for the community. The latest interview is with a 17 year old kid who made an mobile app for the police, where you can report various shit directly from the app and the app alerts the nearest police crew from the location of the user. Genius.

I also run a small flower shop ( bulbs mainly ) with a friend. We mostly deliver the bulbs at the door of the customer. He doesn't have an driving license so I do the driving about.
It's especially busy in the summer, with all the marriages and various other social events going on.
We currently take orders from the facebook page, but we are currently saving up money for a proper site ( fucking expensive )
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>>37767948
>good person
maybe you could have had some empathy for other people and kept the tranny shit to yourself. easier to transition the mind than the body etc.

also it's not being a good person if you're faking it lmao. your entire approach to life is fucking backwards. if you were a slutty crossdressing faggot who knew when to shut the fuck up about your sex life, people would respect you as a good person. if you're an attention whore who wished he was slutty but restricted himself and does cosmetic/hormone shit to mask who you are, then yeah you're dog shit.
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>>37767147
>Hundreds for a vet visit
That shit is why I do not have a pet.
I really want one, I could even handle foodmoney during neet times. But I am worried as fuck that a dog or cat would become sick, and I am unable to pay for treatment.
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>>37767640
Yeah, I plan not to have a wife or kid until I get close to reaching a million dollars, so how soon will that be? Well if you take a look at my bank account the answer is not now.
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>>37766778
>but can you really buy 2 houses for 1 million
yes, you can buy very nice houses in the mid 550k here, Id purchase a second property as a rental in the 300k which you can easily rent out. You could potentially buy even a third on a mortgage and have it paying itself off.
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>>37767984
Do you own either of these ventures?

>>37768204
A million dollars is a bit, but sadly it's not enough to live forever on.
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>>37767984
>but we are currently saving up money for a proper site ( fucking expensive )
Whip something up in shopify.

t. web dev
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I am supposed to be an adult now, but I can't relate to other "adults". People 40,50,60,70, I have not a thing in common with them, yet I'm supposed to be part of a group they are?
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I'm 30 and have nothing but debt.
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>>37769450
This. I'm 30 and can't relate
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>>37769760
Does what your debt got you make you happy? I'm 40 and swimming in the stuff, but looking at the shit I bought and did to get me to the point where half of my rather decent pay goes to servicing debt, I'm okay with it.
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>>37769918
Well what did YOU get with your debt?
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>>37769450
Opposite problem here.
>tfw only just starting to relate to people normally after spending childhood/early adulthood wondering why everyone else was acting like a braindead morally bankrupt little shit
>tfw slightly attracted to a woman ten years younger than my now-retired mum
>tfw ignore 25-30yo friends' parties to work on business plans with 30+ friends
Wizardhood is a meme, but life seems to be getting better with age.
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>>37770075
Aside from the medical debt that almost ruined my shit:
>multiple fun cars
>multiple nice bicycles, pic related is one
>travelled all over the planet
>bought a ton of artwork, nice furniture, a nice library of reads, good clothes, and the comfiest bed ever
>went nuts learning about food and drink all over the world
>indulged a few dumb hobbies like photography
Instead of spending my 30s responsibly building up funds to hopefully have fun with as I got older, I spent them building up debt having fun before my body starts going completely to shit.
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>>37770258
What cars?

I had a gc8 wrx I dumped a 2.5l engine in, disco potato, 3" straight piping, 1000hp front mount intercooler, stroked the engine to 2.7l, racing EMS. Motherfucker made 320kw and 0-100 in a fraction under 5sec.

Cost me more money than I admit to people, and I blew a piston out the side trying to hit 300km/hr.
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How did you guys handle becoming 30, out of curiosity?

I'm a month away, and it's freaking me out. When you're in your teens and 20's, you can brush off setbacks and focus on having fun. But now that I'm close to 30, it feels like I should have all my shit together. All my friends are pairing off, starting families, and I'm just sitting here with no love interest.

It feels humiliating.
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>>37770421
>But now that I'm close to 30, it feels like I should have all my shit together.
This is how I felt about turning 20, and then again for 25. I know people who had their shit together and married up at 20, 25, and I'm sure I'll feel it again at 30.

I think I'll deal with it the way I am currently; by being jelly
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>>37770126
>everyone else was acting like a braindead morally bankrupt little shit
You sound like a self-absorbed, infantile cunt thinking way too highly of himself desu
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>>37765578
Self-pity and hatred are your best friends.

You lost the genetic lottery and the world is out to get you. Better to not play the game at all then play and lose.
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>>37762301
Just two more years and I'll be able to join you lads. Hahaha...
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>>37770919
Nah mate, I just connect with people better when we're doing something than when we're drinking together but have nothing else to do. It's a change in me as much as in everyone else, but it's a good change and I like it.

Do you feel differently?
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>>37762301
People at work ask me what I'm doing on the weekend. What can I tell them? I just play vidya, quielty, on my own in my bedroom in my parents house.
One person asked me why I don't just hang out with my friends on the weekend.

I've been asked about my rent, before. By other people wanting to compare to theirs. I just claim it's low because I live with my brother and we split the rent. It's almost the truth.

What lies do you tell the normals when they try to dig?
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>>37771090
>I've been asked about my rent, before. By other people wanting to compare to theirs.
Ooooooooh man I used to get so embarrassed about this when I was at my parents not paying any rent, power, food, ANYTHING, as a 25 year old. It made me feel like a child.

Isn't that strange? I feel like an adult when I'm encumbered with bills?
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>>37771050
>I just connect with people better when we're doing something than when we're drinking together but have nothing else to do
I get bored with just sitting around drinking, but I can still connect with people like this.
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>>37771090
>What do you do in your free time anon?
>Uh... Eh... And what about you?
>Sorry, but I asked first :)
>Eh... Watching movies... Reading...
>What did you read last time?
>GOSH THIS IS TOO MUCH QUESTIONS MAKE IT STOP
>Alright anon :)
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>>37762301
>Anyway, Im sitting here trying to install Watch Dogs 2
I think the problem with having low energy might be playing shit normie games.
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Hi guys. I've only recently become a member of the 25+ club, but still I hope you could maybe give me some advice.

I'm not a NEET, I have a job, fairly decent one, but I'm a KV, hateful, bitter, etc. You know the drill.

How do you deal with events where you are expected to turn up with your family or at least a wife/girlfriend? You're pretty much expected to come to these events and coming alone raises questions. Maybe not the first year, but in time it will.

Is there any good way to handle this other than escorts pretending to be your girlfriend? I was actually thinking about hiring one ...
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>>37771319
How about you go fuck your own face and take your patrician tastes back to /v/ so you can circlejerk the new metroid some more
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>eat a 1000 kcal meal
>completely exhausted
>sleep 3 hours

I think it was the milk (2 glasses). I've stopped drinking milk for a while and now after this I'm pretty sure I have developed a mild allergy or something.
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>>37771378
>You're pretty much expected to come to these events and coming alone raises questions. Maybe not the first year, but in time it will.
After a while most of them either assume you're gay and in the closet or get used to it.
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>>37771454
And if it's a family-oriented company not full of 25 year olds, but rather 30 - 45 year olds with families?

Honestly I think I'm gonna have to leave soon. I mean sure, work-wise I do my job well, but I'm just not a match for the "atmosphere" if you get my point.
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>>37771378
Just answer the questions with as little detail as possible, and do not even bother lying. "Lots of beautiful girls but I have never found the right one" or shit like that.
Most times people will notice how short your answers are and will refrain from digging unless they have beef with you.
Making stuff up will just get you tangled up in those excuses and stress you out, since you might later have to remember what yearn you spun there.
Could even suddenly cause some girl to notice you since you are solo, stranger shit has happened.
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>>37771378
eh you're probably ugly/feminine enough for them not to judge.
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>>37771533
That's kinda true. Well, I'm not feminine. I'm more like masculine/ugly. You know, very wide ugly face with big neanderthal brow ridge and apparently insane eyes. Broad shoulders, very thick facial hair, big arms.

If I was a feminine fag-boy they'd just leave me alone.

>>37771529
I guess that's true. So hiring a dinner-escort is not a good idea. Thanks for the perspective. I mean it. It's not like I can ask anyone else about this shit.
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>>37771489
>And if it's a family-oriented company not full of 25 year olds, but rather 30 - 45 year olds with families?
We have two 40+ singles, but they're both very obviously autistic, so nobody expects them to be married.

You're probably overestimating how much other people care about your life.
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>>37771628
>You're probably overestimating how much other people care about your life.
Yeah you're right. It's not like anyone gives a shit on a normal day. Just these events specifically aimed at bringing your family. Shit goes down when you go there alone. I mean if you put together alcohol, questions that people want to ask (they don't care much, but I think they are still a little curious at least from what I've heard from a couple conversations they though I couldn't hear ...).
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I can't believe how old I feel at 27. I thought old would be like 50s or 60s. I feel ready to die already and I'm only 27.

Just like you with sleep OP, I never get enough, I never feel refreshed, I rarely find anything fun anymore.
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>>37771605
>So hiring a dinner-escort is not a good idea.
I would consider doing that after some years of repeating events maybe, and only if there are any 'omg, he must be gay' rumors that actually bother you.
Even then you better keep it simple and sell her as "someone you only just met". For all you know some coworker could be a regular for her happy-end service.
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>>37771529
>Most times people will notice how short your answers are and will refrain from digging unless they have beef with you.

+1. I just also want to add that me and my friends have had separate problems regarding relatives digging like hell without any interpersonal conflict.

They always have some kind of crisis in their own relationships and will try to shift the focus to you, being an easy target.
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I made my own thread for this but I dont really need one. Im 31.

>NEET
>landlord calls plumber to fix sink
>awkward because hes here and I have a smol apartment
>dont want them to know im on autism bux and a NEET
>http://hackertyper.com/ and punch random keys so it looks like im a l33t haxx0r working from home

this is pretty pathetic...
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>>37771878
>landlord comes to fix something
>leave apartment beforehand to avoid him
>take a train to the end of the line to kill time
>pizza out there is half the price
>eat an entire family like the fat shit I am
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>26
>no skills
>very little prior job experience (a month as a porter)
>no qualifications
>no medical illnesses to qualify for neetbux
>total neet
>no car

What do I do? I need a way of making money but becoming a wagie is the last thing I want to do. I live with my dad, he's spent several months over the last two years doing electrical work for a relatively good price so we've been living off what he saved but I don't think that will last us a whole lot longer.

Have I destroyed my life beyond repair?
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>>37773103
Get a list of jobs with high growth that don't require a degree. Make a list of friends, family, or anyone else you can call on, and crossreference it with the list of jobs. Come up with some convincing bullshit about why you'd be interested in becoming e.g. an ophthalmology technician's assistant or a facebook anti-child-porn moderator or whatever, and ask them to let you know if there's an opening.
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>>37771384
I don't think he was calling his taste patrician, anon.
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>>37773637
Most jobs I've come across require 1-2 years experience if they didn't require a degree.

What I need is either some connections or a fucking miracle.

The only jobs I'm qualified for are things like dishwasher or someone who picks up trash.
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>>37773768
Yeah, without the connection it's pretty fucked up.
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>>37773810
Do I have any other options?

Is there a way to get neetbux without a note from the doctor or an actual physical condition?
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I just fucking woke up I punched the table next to the bed, i was having a dream i was punching someone in the face and did it involuntarily. this isnt normal thing that just starts happening regularly is there?
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>>37773768
>The only jobs I'm qualified for are things like dishwasher or someone who picks up trash
Are you too good for that? That doesn't have to be what you'll be doing the rest of your life. Start at the bottom and then begin looking into better options
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>>37773989
No, I'm not too good for that in the slightest. Every time I put in an application for these positions I never hear back. That's how desperate my situation is. I literally cannot get a job picking up trash. No matter how many times I call back or how well it seems I talk during the interview, they never pick me.
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>>37773840
its really difficult to get neetbux. what state are you in?

this might help.
if you are 25+ and still on r9k, youre prob an aspie. Just saying. (as a 31 year old aspie still on r9k who has been shitposting since the original board.)
http://www.disability-benefits-help.org/disabling-conditions/autism-and-social-security-disability

I mean, honestly, any mental illness disability can be faked since psychology depends so much on self reporting.
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>>37774125
An 8 year gap will do that. If you're not already doing so I suggest lying your ass off about what you've been doing during that time
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>>37768864

Actually yes ! Sorry i got some sleep - this is my recovery day !

The site is registered at the Bureau for inventions and trademarks on my name. I mange it, I create the content, I get the pay, I pay the taxes. I have a female friend, luckily, that is a based accountant and handles my whatever fiscality stuff.

The flower shop is registered as an LLC, with me and my friend as associates. Same female friend does all the accounting, as we just prefered to make an collaboration contract rather than hiring a full time accountant - we're not that big yet.

>>37769095
You see - this is why it's so expensive. We hardly know IT stuff, so we need profesional help. And professional IT help does tend to cost.
Besides, the bulk of the costs would be adding the payment options, especially in the credit card department.
Nevertheless, thanks for your help !
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>>37774237
I live in Nevada.

I don't have the money to go to a therapist, psychologist or a doctor to get diagnosed, which means I have no proof at all.
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>>37774240
Any suggestions? I used to say that I'd been playing nursemaid to my ailing mother until she passed but that never seemed to convince anyone.
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>>37774391
What's your wpm typing rate like? I've read a lot of greentexts of NEETs making the escape through recruiters when their only qualifications and skills were typing more than 60 words per minute and more than basic understanding of Word and Excel.
Few of them claim to have moved onto bigger more successful jobs from there on surpassing the average wagie even.
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>>37774273
http://www.ssdrc.com/state-nevada-nv-getting-started.html

a person applying for disability in nevada has like a 30% success rate.

Now Imagine that without a doctor.
Get a Dr appointment and go for some heavy hitting mental illness thats easy to fake if you want to try this, but its hard to get neetbux.

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/how4.html
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>>37774442
I just took a typing test, it said 68 wpm and I made 3 small errors, lets say an average of 70? I can type just fine when I'm typing what I'm thinking as opposed to typing what I'm reading off a piece of paper or a screen. I can't process the words in my brain while typing them at the same time. Just like I can't talk and think at the same time. I can talk, then I can think, or I can think, then I can talk, but not both at the same time.
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>>37773768

Hey, bub. I'm the guy at >>37767984.
I was not born into wealth. I lived the hard life.

Never be ashamed of work, no matter how "bad" it is. I even worked as a cashier in a cosmetics shop ( i'm a fairly bearded fat man ). And you know what ? Despite the shit pay and lousy hours, I made the most out of the situation.

A friend of mine that now has his own IT company, he worked even construction and fast-food. And in his spare time he learned IT all by himself.

Get off your high horse. It's not what happens that counts. It's what you do about it.

Many very rich people that I have personally met have had really crap starts. There was this guy, he was an old fart ( 42 or smth ) and he owns one of the biggest money safe factories in the country. He started his empire when he was 16, selling sunglasses by the beach. In first season he sold only 2 pairs, in 4 fucking months. Did that stop him ? No. Was that a great job ? not really. But he made the best out of it.
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>>37774581
Please don't misunderstand me, I have no qualms about doing dirty or menial jobs, I just can't find one that hasn't already been taken by some one else who is willing to do dirty and menial jobs but also for maybe a little bit less than minimum wage.

Trust me, I do not think I am above any sort of job, except maybe ones that risk my physical health. (eg being one of those sign wavers but in 115 degree heat, I'm already susceptible to heat stroke/heat exhaustion)

I am not a stuck up asshole too good to pick up trash or wash dishes. I wish I could get a dishwashing job, and I'm trying.
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>>37762301
>playing legos

it's never too late to start playing again, dear mr. AFOL
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>>37774630

Listen here bub. When I was searching for a job I was sending out 30-40 applications per day. I didn't even care what job it was.

I guarantee you that if you send 30-40 applications per day, 30 days, you will get a job.

What's your work experience ? We're on the internet so all I want is to give you some advice & guidance
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>>37774764
I worked for about a month at a casino, as a porter on graveyard shift. Cleaning off slot machines, picking up trash, that sort of thing.

They decided that they weren't going to keep me on, and never told me why, so I don't know if it was because I wasn't moving fast enough, or if I broke a rule on accident, or what. I was always on time, always had a smile, always helping people when they asked me a question.

That one month in my 26 years of living is my only job experience.
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>>37774810

well in this case you qualify only for entry-level jobs, such as store clerks or cashiers.
If I were you I'd go for a hotel or something, maybe as an bell-boy ( heard it pays like crazy ). But otherwise, you can't really go above entry-level.

You just need to spam 30-40 applications per day. Large stores are always looking for new people, as people don't last in that sort of environment for more than a couple of months, but it's enough to give them some money and some experience.
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>>37774919
This is just my frustration talking, please forgive me, I do appreciate what you're doing. Just having someone replying is helping, but you're not telling me anything I don't already know.

I also think you're exaggerating slightly when you say 30-40 applications a day. Most applications come with an assessment that takes 10-20 minutes to complete. So if you factor that in you're claiming to have put in applications for a potential of 13 hours a day.
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>>37774987

in Europe you will seldomly find assesments or other forms than "submit CV". And yes, I was submitting that many CV applications.
No matter, if you care about it, you'll do it. Even 13 hours a day. Have a "No matter what" attitude. Don't be a woman.
Get some resolution and apply at jobs until you either get the job or you get blind from staring too much at the monitor.
That's the attitude winners have in life. I will not give up until I win or I die.

Now go be a winner !
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>>37771090
>what are you doing this weekend anonymous?
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>>37774581
>>37774764
>>37774919
>just b a highly motivated individual with great business sense, amazing charisma, great personality and you can be an entreprenuer too dude lmao
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>>37775115

I really hate motivation speakers. You know why ? Most of them talk out of their asses or from books, few have actual bussineses running.
And very few of these so-called "motivational speakers" only talk of the bright side and positive shit, but they avoid the hard part.

Nobody will tell you how hard it will be, how much of a struggle the start can be. No, not everyone can be an entreprenuer. You need above-average desire to do something in life. And you need steel nerves and an iron will.

If you want a comfy, cozy life, entrepreneurship is not for you.

I don't understand why do people bash on being an employee vs an entrepreneur. As an employee, sure, you earn less but you also have less stress. If the company goes bankrupt you can just go to another job, unlike the entrepreneur who will be in big shit. And that's fine too.

Never adhere to society's rules just because you should.

Success is living the life you want. If you are satisfied with your life and you don't complain, you are an success. Success is not linked with money. I've seen very happy people with very little money', and very sad people with piles of money.
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>>37771090
I've come to peace with it so I always tell the truth. To be honest I really want normies to know that there are people like me out there so I just myself as an example.

I will freely admit to getting the bulk of my social interaction from the internet, and that the guy who texts me on the phone lives in a different country. I'll tell people that I did nothing but read one day and that I spent an evening getting an S rank on Furi.

This used to be more sensitive when I was a NEET. But since I started studying my self-esteem has improved a lot and I feel like I can "afford" admitting this stuff now.

It feels quite good, all things considered.
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>>37763582
>I'm certainly talking to a financial specialist before I do anything but I'm not gonna take an anons advice
while it's certainly a good idea not to take advice from anons on 4chan, there's nothing outlandish about putting money into an index fund

most richfags do that
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