What does it feel like to be a sociopath or a psychopath? To

>>37740438

Not a psychopath myself (don't score highly on psychopathy), but actual psychopathy involves a reduced or non-existent connection between actions and consequences. Combine this with an increased sense of impulsiveness and trends towards self-serving behavior and you have someone looking to maximize their gains who isn't able to see that if they do x, y will happen. They just do x. They don't even think about y.

Psychopaths, by and large, aren't "criminal masterminds" or the shit that's portrayed on tv. They can be - psychopathy is often linked with manipulative behavior - but it doesn't make them serial killer geniuses like fucking Dexter just because they're psychopaths. Think of it less as a trait and more of an absence, a hole where normative behavior would tell you to stop and think about what'll happen next.

>>37740438
I do happen to be a psychopath, it doesn't really affect you that much

>>37740673
well tell me how it does affect you, please.

Go into detail if you can.

Things are never really your fault. You have this sense of persuasion that any situation is always basically the fault of others.

Also, if you've done something 'wrong' you never really care about the supposed wrongdoing, you just act like you do and people will forgive you.

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>>37740438
Sociopath-san here, your question is kinda general anon.

What do you really want to know?

Generally speaking I would say that I'm probably not the "movie star" type of Aspd.
(You know, the ones who gives no damn about the rules of this lands, and believe they've got tiger blood).
But I score on the "lack of remorse" thing. Kinda different from empathy, in my opinion.

Honestly speaking, I understand what people care and look for in friendships and stuff. But It seems so "fakey".
For me being friends is a status and I don't really know how one could change that status.
If we argue, 5 minutes and it's all over, I can't stand people who aren't able to get over stuff. It's a sort of "I've done wrong, I know it, but it's been done, so drop it already" kind of feeling. I'm quick at dropping people who need to recieve apologies or stuff like that.

I have some greentexts on how I've dropped people i knew for almost a decade because of that.
But they don't really matter, in the end it's just "I've dropped them because they started to be annoying. I don't feel bad about it".

It's not like I know how it affects me. I've been me all my life. I don't know many other realities, even if I understand them, I just don't care.

Be more precise with your questions.

>>37740533
That may be so, but isn't sociopathy where you just don't give a fuck about what happens to other people? Of course you're not going to be able to translate this into anything if you're not smart, but I've read that intelligent sociopaths do well in the finance industry and other jobs where fucking people over is part of everyday business.

>>37740844
would you feel bad if you committed acts that is seen as immoral by society?

Stuff like murder or rape, but any "crime" that is considered immoral counts and you committed them for personal gain

>>37740438
I think a lot of sociopaths/psychopaths are probably on 4chan. Basically all that nigger talk and trolling people online is a sign of low empathy and callousness towards your fellow humans.

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>>37740885
>would you feel bad if you committed acts that is seen as immoral by society?
>committed them for personal gain

I've stolen alot of shit just for the sake of the "thrill" or because i need them in the immediate. (only little things: Pack of gums, coins, once I've took 10 eurobucks out of the offerings of my local curch.)
And I don't honestly felt bad about it in the immediate. You know, You just get the idea, look around and do it for your own sake.
Sure, you have that "You shouln't have done that" tought, because I know the rules and I know I'm going against them.

But the desire of eating a gum was bigger. Or my needs for cash.
I'm not really good at explaning thing, fact is that, I know it's bad but, whatever, everybody did some bad shit in their life, so... "Whatever".

I couln't probably murder anyone or rape anyone tho. (Well, actually I got pretty close to "rape" once but that's part of one of those greentext stories I feel it's usless to ramble about)
One thing is a crime that has no repercussion on a person. But I wouln't trust my lack of remorse on those kind of stuff.
You know, I wouln't take the change of murdering someone, to discover that I could not sleep at night because I feel bad about it.

And considering that from time to time I have those moments of clarity where i go: "Fuck is wrong with me, I'm a monster" I would probably feel bad, if not in the immediate, in the long run.

It's funny because now that I've written it I realized that I'm saying "i wouln't murder someone because I would be scared To not be able to sleep at night" and not because it's a "bad thing you shouldn't do".

I'm sorry, I don't make much sense I know.

>>37741159
Were you clinically diagnosed, sociopath-anon?

>>37741269
big chance it's some shitty kid who thinks lack of empathy qualifies him as one. but do tell how you were diagnosed beyond 'yes'

>>37741317
what else besides lack of empathy do you need to have to be a sociopath?

>>37741397
A wicked sense of humour I'd imagine

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>>37741418
ayyyy lmao

ayy

>>37740736
This sums it up perfectly

Originally orgac

>>37741159
Why did you even type this long drawn out message? Why do you care about whether he understands it or 'gets it'? Why do you call him a nickname like 'anon'?

Do you want to be helpful?

You are not a sociopath or psychopath.

read The North Water by Ian McGuire
Henry Drax (the villain) is a perfect represention of a sociopath (and a murderous sodomite)

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>>37741269
Yes, But many years ago. When I still was a teenager.
Also From time to time I go talking to another doctress.
I actually got a text from said doctoress the other day, as it's been a while I hadn't seen her.
No replyies because She called me shortly after (and that's a carefully crafted bait because I'm an edgy kiddo).

(message reads something like "Hello anon, I'm doc surname, I wondered how you're doing. I tought about you!!
-Parizia)

>>37741418
heh

>>37741533
I cannot sleep.
Also You probably mix me with the nihilists outta the big lebowsky.
"We don't care about anything!"

I don't have more tits to timestamp, you'll have to believe me.

>>37740533
>actual psychopathy involves a reduced or non-existent connection between actions and consequences. Combine this with an increased sense of impulsiveness and trends towards self-serving behavior and you have someone looking to maximize their gains who isn't able to see that if they do x, y will happen. They just do x. They don't even think about y.

Huh. I think one of my friends may actually be a psychopath because that description fits them to a T.

>be me
>elementary school, sort of into collecting stuff
>mom buy me one of those booklets that hold every state quarter
>make it my goal to collect a quarter from every state
> takes me a few years, this was mid 2000's so not every state quarter was even out yet
>one day playing in the McDonalds playplace structure thing, I spot a little toddler black girl with a Mississippi/Missouri state quarter
>HOLYSHIT.jpg
>never seen one irl, one of the last states i was missing
>I was very manipulative and controlling with my younger kid brother, force him to guard one end of the little section of the play structure we were in
cont.

>>37741802
please don't, sounds boring as fuck

>>37741802
>my bro uncomfortably forced to guard one entrance to the little chamber of the playplace, i guard the other and try and force the little girl into giving me the quarter
>she can barely talk
>she tries to leave, i wont let her
>bro wants to let her leave, i wont let him
>toddler girl starts freaking out, i grow impatient and continue to try force her into giving me the quarter
>whisper/scream at her in an angry growl
>she starts whimper
>she starts to cry
>ohshit.jpg i freak out and try to get out of there, i hear her mother calling up to her "whats wrong sweetie
>(we were on an upper level of the play structure)
>the moms on her way up, its too late to run
> i figure she cant talk, she wont rat me out easily
>pretend to be a good samaritan and carry/help the little girl down to her mother
>mfw i didn't get that quarter that day

i always did a bunch of evil/sadistic things to people younger than me, force little bro to steal stuff for me, beat him up, cover for me, blackmail him because he didn't know better etc. now i feel bad about it

>>37740438
It's not always about being a cunt that lacks empathy, anon. You can perceive it, as it is one of the main tools you will use in order to get what you want. It is the fact you can ignore it, detach yourself from emotional burdens that truly counts. That goes for shame, pain caused towards other, what others think of you. That's why they tend to look so self-confident, you can detach yourself from bullshit with ease.

>>37741654
You have just described sociopathy.

Most psychopaths aren't self aware

>>37741953
sorry anon

origonaslsndn

My mom says my dad is a sociopath. But he just seems like a dick who doesn't love me.

>>37741649
Nothing to do with nihilistic views. Psychopaths/sociopaths dont try to relate to other people or try to help others. Unless there's a clear advantage in it for them.

23 year old senior in college Psych major with psychopathic tendencies here. AMA

>>37740438
I swear you'd have to be a psycho to not understand it. But I don't like conflict that much...eh.

>>37742500
Please elaborate on the mindset to help me understand.

>>37742575
I've done fucked up shit even as a kid. You hear or read about those stories from people that visit this board about how they fucked their cousin or some shit and you feel strange. That's the kind of feeling I KNOW I evoke in others if I tell them about some of my past life events.

I'm not that nice when it comes to feelings I guess. I am completely cognizant of them, but I have no interest in truly helping someone through them because 1) I don't have time and 2) I'm not them.
You can refer to this post here about the mentality I'm talking about >>37740844
>whatever, drop it
that shit. As soon as you are good, I'm most likely good. Any further talk is able to be signaled. Personally, I prefer body language, but I'm supposed to be autistic, so I have to keep a charade that's easily spotted because of my lack of talking. Then I seem schizo and it's rough because I have other things about my psychology that make the situation difficult (i.e. misdiagnosis and moderate persecution avoidance)

I'm actually seeing a new doc soon and I think he's finally not only going to be the one that listens to me, but finally accept that I'm speaking truth and that some SIGNIFICANT progress can be made about my mental stature. Life is rough being gifted and having high IQ. I digressed.

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>>37740438
Psychopath here.
Psychopathy isn't something cool, like in the movies. This isn't romantic or neat.
To start, I can feel anger and frustration and annoyance in the same way that anyone else can.
It's just that I don't feel sorry for things I do when im angry. I've never felt regret, or guilt or shame. these are foreign terms to me. I don't know, it's not like I don't WANT to feel them. I just can't.
Let me dispel another myth.
I'm not some tv psycho who sits in his room rubbing his fingers together and whispering about murder and blood while watching gore porn all day.
I have a job, friends, a family, and hobbies.
I like woodworking, video games, programming, tennis, etc.
I pay my taxes and get along with my neighbors and coworkers.
BUT- I don't like any of these people.
I don't like my friends, my family, my girlfriend, my dog.
They are just props, like background actors in my life. I surround myself with them for to fit in, and for my own comfort.
No matter how many times I've told my mother that I love her, we both know deep down I don't.
I don't hate them either. They can be enjoyable, and fun. But ultimently, they are pawns. It's a sad existence for the most part, but not growing attached to people has its good side, like when my sister got raped.
Most people would jump the nigger in an alley, and of course I did as well, but more out of social convention than anger.
Couple more things;
The emotions I do feel, I don't feel for the same reasons as you.
I feel angry for personal reasons, but I never get angry on someone else's behalf.
I got more angry when I get cut off in traffic than I did when my Dad died.
It's hard to understand unless you live it.
One last thing I want to touch on is the "psychopath triad"
You know the one; develeoped by clinical psychologists. Fire, animal cruelty, and bed wetting.
THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT!
I have not wet the bed once in my whole life, I think arson is retarded and I don't torture animals for the hell of it.

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>>37742974
Thank you originally much.

>>37743060
I always like talking about it, so I'll answer any more questions if anybody has em.

>>37743166
checked and lurking

fun reading time now https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677584/

>>37743199
How is savant syndrome relevant to my psychopathy?
I'm not autistic

>>37743233
Ever rape/kill/seriously hurt anyone?

Manipulated people?

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>>37743337
Forgot to add, I'm not FBI.

>>37743233
Introspection is a powerful tool, friend. I did not intend to mislead. Checked again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUVmcKcTZ4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i45pYq-58po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2b_3HHDdjw&list=PL6OdXvtzIniKy0vTCBBuyG9ZXFrRZ6REe

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Sociopathy is such fucking bullshit.

It's just another attempt by mainstream society to clinicalize personality flaws.
Just like with ADHD, or Borderline, or the vast majority of Autistic spectrum cases.

Sociopaths were never discaplined as children and can't connect their actions with consequences. It's as simple as that.

Shitty parents who are looking for any excuse to shift the blame off them welcome labels like "sociopathy". And I suspect that is why the idea of it is so widespread.

In the olden days, "sociopathy" was called by another name. "Being a dick. And there is a sure fire way to cure it. A good ass beating. Put the fear of God into them. When they fucked up, they got the discipline they never recieved as a child.

But of course, in this touchy feely society, that doesn't happen anymore. So these troublemakers get away with everything until they end up in jail. And thanks to the liberal mental health system, they are told its not their fault, and it neurology, and this and that.

It's sickening.
Stop spreading these mental health memes.

>>37743358
>exactly what the FBI would say. GOT EM!
>>37743447
Ah sorry. I try to be as introspective as possible but it's very hard sometimes. That's why I pride myself on being a self aware psychopath. I guess I still have a tendency to use self centered thinking.

Anyway, thanks for the keks.

>>37743337
Manipulated, yes, sometimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously. Nothing too bad though.

Killed anyone? No
I like to fit in with society. Some of us do, some don't.
Also, never liked the thought of murder. It just doesn't do it for me. (Nor does most kind of cruelty) Most of us are non offending.
Also, I don't want to spend time in prison. I'd go crazy.

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>>37743528
I've always had the desire to torture animals or maybe even people, but in most cases, it's animals, like something small and common such as birds, stray house pets, and so forth.

Just never acted on it. I'm aware of how painstakingly tough and sloppy It'll be in the long run and to be frank, I don't wanna put up with that shit but eventually, I'll do it. Just gotta find the perfect moment when. There are a ton of stray cats in my neighborhood so it's not an issue of finding them, merely the dumping process afterward. It'll be a fucking bitch.

>>37740736
This

Also its true. The concept of fault is just shaming so you/others dont do it again. Essentially an ancient meme.

>>37743516
>attempt by mainstream society to clinicalize personality flaws.
>like with ADHD, or Borderline, or the vast majority of Autistic spectrum cases.

lmao

>>37743516
You are either next level retarded or next level troll

Congrats either way
>>37743587
All mental disorders are a spectrum. We are all different anon.

Never had "sadistic" desires, but I don't judge. Try not to act on those, but if you ABSOLUTELY have to, do some shit like turtles.
Fuck those fags.
I hate turtles. And fish. Fuck em.

>>37743739
>the concept of fault is just shaming so you or others don't do it again

My sides are in orbit.

>>37743924
I always considered fish as an option. It'd be easy to just hook a few, stomp the shit out of them or bring them home to exfoliate a bit then simply chuck them in the garbage with the rest of my trash, nobody will suspect a thing.