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Psychological Issues #74

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LXXIV

1. Use a name.
2. Ask a question and/or share your problems.
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>>37706039
>mfw my waifu doesn't exist
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>>37706433

Fuck waifus, you can get a real woman. It's so much better.

Why don't you?
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What is the proper way to respond when people insult you?

If you insult them back, you stoop to their level and prove that you're just as immature as they are.
If you swallow it, let it slide, it becomes more frequent as people learn they can make fun of you and you wont retaliate.
If you cut them out of your life, you become a lonely shut-in as friendly insults/teasing among guy friends is present everywhere.
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Hey Nick, I don't know if you remember me but I just wanted to thank for educating me about C-PTSD. I didn't know I suffered from abuse until I truly opened up
and cried my eyes out. I feel much better now.
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>>37706553

It depends on the context. Who insults you, where, how?

I'll answer when I know what the specific situation is.
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>>37706564
I forgot to put my name
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>>37706564

I'm glad to hear that. What's your name again?

I suspect C-PTSD will be much more popular in the near future. It may even encompass a whole lot of sub-conditions.
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You probably don't remember me but I was the anon who was "sick" because he was hungover and left work.
Turns out it wasn't a hangover, it's a legit stomach bug.
I always hate leaving work because I always feel better when I get home and then think i"m just being a hypochondriac.Fuck.
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>>37706694

Trust yourself, your body, and don't belittle any issue you may have.

Way too much of that on this board. It's like people here think they'll be tougher if they ignore alarm bells.
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>>37706587
In social events. Every single guy has experienced it. Making fun of each other, exploiting vulnerabilities and weaknesses, teasing.
Obviously it's not meant to be taken literally and at face value since its not serious or genuine, but it's still there.
It always feels like a test to see how you'd respond. See if you'll just take it, or defend yourself somehow.
The older you are, the less obvious these tests are, but they never go away.

So what is the proper way to handle them?
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>>37706527
i wouldn't doubt they could be better.

never had a strong interest in real women, anon-san. I also doubt that if I did search around I'd be able to find someone as good as her.
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>>37706723
>Making fun of each other, exploiting vulnerabilities and weaknesses, teasing.
>Obviously it's not meant to be taken literally and at face value since its not serious or genuine, but it's still there.

This kind is a game, like sports. People who do it to you do it because they like you and want some exchanges with you, so you play along and score some points by "insulting" them as well. If you're not comfortable with it, just say so, plainly, calmly, with confidence. Or react in a way that shows you don't like it.

Men never do this to me, because they can tell I wouldn't take it. I guess I look so intense that they don't even bother trying. It'd feel out of place if they did.

Give me a concrete examples.
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>>37706724

You may have to learn what a real woman is, but it's worth it. You were made to be with a woman, anon, fuck your waifu.
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>>37706820
Can't you just tell me what a real woman is?
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>>37706853

She's a person. You'll have to socialise with her, understand her, care for her, and she'll do the same with you, like a team.

Life isn't worth living without a woman by your side.
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>>37706889
desu this is just making me lament the nonexistence of my waifu even more.

how am I supposed to meet this person? I haven't had a friend in years aside from my waifu so my social skills are impaired. I'm also aware of my inability to socialize which could scare off any such individual. I don't think at this point that it's feasible for me to meet and maintain a relationship.
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>>37707139

Join a website. It begins with a chat. Just be honest and open. Nothing wrong in telling people you're introverted and not used to meeting and such. Admitting that will make you sound confident, ironically.

You sound fine to me, it's only a matter of getting used to it.
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Hello everyone!

I vaguely remember being here yesterday, but I was drunk. Hope I didn't insult anyone.

How is everyone doing?
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>>37707206

If I recall, you turned down an actual model because of your basic misogyny. She was really into you and loved the pic you sent her.

Send me your pic and I'll confirm whether you sent her a pic of you or of Chad.
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>>37707268
Sure. Here you go. This is me :]

Seriously though, I wasn't that drunk. I remember talking to facet.

How are you holding up?
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>>37707319

Got some major revelations recently. Parents are attempting to sue me, too.

My state is much more stable on the whole. I work a lot.
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>>37707362
>Got some major revelations recently.
I'm curious. Very.

>Parents are attempting to sue me, too.
The fuck?

>My state is much more stable on the whole. I work a lot.
That's really good for you.
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>>37707401

It's too heavy for public display. I don't want the trolls to have that. ;)
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>>37706807
>because they like you and want some exchanges with you
If that were true, it wouldn't be present everywhere. A lot of people wouldn't resort to immature/juvenile tests to have an exchange.
There is plenty you can talk about without resorting to insults.

>score some points by "insulting" them
So it is in fact a test. Test of what? Masculinity? How "alpha" you are? You really don't see how stupid and useless this is?
I refuse to participate in a society where people judge you based on your responses to insults.

>Men never do this to me, because they can tell I wouldn't take it. I guess I look so intense that they don't even bother trying. It'd feel out of place if they did.
I'm glad you established your alpha level on an anonymous imageboard Nick.

>Give me a concrete examples.
Fine.
You're playing an actual competitive sport, you make a mistake, teammates call you out by either insulting you or teasing you for it.
If guys find out [insert weakness/insecurity] they always make fun of you for it in one way or the other.
If you do something embarrassing like trip, fall, spill something, have any kind of an accident, first reaction is always an insult.
I've not only observed this when it happens to me, but also when it happens to other people within the group.
I'm aware its supposed to be a joke, and not taken serious, but your response to it does have an impact on how people treat you which is what i have a problem with.
If the proper way to respond is with an insult, then my choices are either conformity or being alone. And i think we both know what the logical choice is.
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>>37707427
>A lot of people wouldn't resort to immature/juvenile tests to have an exchange.
>There is plenty you can talk about without resorting to insults.

Indeed. You can always find another group of friends.

>So it is in fact a test. Test of what? Masculinity? How "alpha" you are? You really don't see how stupid and useless this is?

I see women do this around me, and they all have fun, until one gets assblasted and then it's even funnier (for me). Nobody does it to me, because I was never mean to anyone and I don't enjoy jabs, to give or to take.

>society

It's just a group of people. Adults don't engage in this stuff unless it's been established very clearly that all participants are OK with it. This can be asked of you implicitly, but if you take it the first time it happens, it's like saying yes.

>I'm glad you established your alpha level on an anonymous imageboard Nick.

You think I was showing off? Strike 1. Two more and I'll just save my time for others.

>Fine.

You don't have to... It's for you that I ask, you're not doing me a favour here.

>You're playing an actual competitive sport,

In that context, it makes even more sense. People lash out all the time during sports.

Here's what I would do, and did. If I miss something, fall, or have any mishap, and someone makes fun of it, or criticises me, just tell him to shut the fuck up. If you're cold enough and with the right dose of anger, they may not want to try again. If you can pull it off, though.

I spent 4 years in a class of bullies but that was never a problem I had.

I recommend homo comebacks too.

"Ha, you fell! Idiot."

"Swallow my cum, pretty boy."

Be creative.

You guys must be pretty young.
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>>37707420
That's understandable.

By the way I'm reading again through the convo we had a couple weeks ago. The one I've saved. I've been angry lately, hopefully it helps. I read it about once a week. Usually it helps a little.
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>>37707859

The angry convo? It's like fapping to footage of a makeup sex session.
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What's a browser-based game that I can play on the shittiest laptop in existence?
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>>37707894
I don't think it's the one which made you really angry. The number is 65. It's the one where I tried to listen, even though I was still being ... well me.

I don't know. I mean if I really think about all the things that are bothering me, then I can't think of any good ending to my story. It's just that no matter how much I think about it, all the endings end up in shit. Logically I honestly don't see any other end other than me killing myself. It's just so logical. I don't know if I'm gonna explain myself well here, hopefully I will.

You know the feeling when you're trying to assemble something, but you're missing a piece? And no matter how much you think about it, no matter how skilled or capable you are, no matter how hard you work you just won't get a good result because there is something essential missing.

I think my problems may be similar. I can't just let go of my anger and bitterness, because not doing anything wrongly. I'm putting all the pieces together how I should. Which is why everything I say is so logical (you can laugh all you want, but I can argue it to hell and back), it all follows logically. Except I'm missing something.

Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm not trying to start a danrail here. I'm grasping at straws.
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>>37708061
>Which is why everything I say is so logical

But it's not, what you're missing is actual logic.

You hold on to bitterness and anger because those are familiar, and dropping them would be new and scary, as it would allow you to get more from life, and doing so would prove your past self wrong, which is expensive to you, because if you suddenly prove yourself wrong, you'll feel like you wasted years of your life in anger and bitterness when there was no reason to do so.

Sunken cost fallacy.
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DEMOCRACY AT WORK, POLL TIME:

Reply to this post and vote on the following:

Should I contact a woman who might be my aunt?
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>>37708151
Weren't you the one who said that meeting new people is an opportunity that should be harnessed?
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Hello everyone

Are you guys doing ok?
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>>37708180

Yes, but that was a general statement. Meet people from your own family that you've never met is different.
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I might get shitloads of tattoos, though I think tattoos are trashy. Give me some ideas.

Here are two ideas of mine:

- a big red A, standing both for the first letter of LO's name and the scarlet letter, for obvious reasons

- the score to a symphony I love
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>>37707609
>Indeed. You can always find another group of friends.
Except this happens in every social group ever. I've switched schools 4 times before getting a degree. I've known and interacted with more people than most.

>I see women do this around me
Curiously, i've never seen a woman do it before. This has nothing to do with woman.

>Adults don't engage in this stuff
With adults, its much much more subtle and usually in forms of questions that usually imply certain things about the person. But it's still there.

>You think I was showing off? Strike 1. Two more and I'll just save my time for others.
Yes, i typed that sentence as a challenge to your masculinity, to see how you'd respond. If you actually practice what you preach.
Remember the three ways of handling it i originally proposed? You either take it, insult them back, or cut them out of your life.
You chose the latter in this specific case while your advice is to respond with an insult, which makes you a hypocrite technically.
It's not that fun when people test you like this, is it? That's the point.

I'm aware of how to respond to appear "alpha", and manly, how to defend yourself from it.
But why should i? Why is this a requirement to be a functional member of society?
It proves nothing. Its a useless animalistic ritual.
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>>37708122
>But it's not, what you're missing is actual logic.
It is though. Well, I don't know. I'm honestly probably for the first time realizing I might actually be mentally ill. I mean I don't know some cosmic truth that no one else knows. I see the world around me, the same that everyone else does. Yet people see the world and live. I see the world and only logical conclusion is to kill myself. What would I usually say to this? Eh, something like that I'm only not ignoring the truth that other people do ignore. What's the retort here ...

>You hold on to bitterness and anger because those are familiar, and dropping them would be new and scary, as it would allow you to get more from life, and doing so would prove your past self wrong, which is expensive to you, because if you suddenly prove yourself wrong, you'll feel like you wasted years of your life in anger and bitterness when there was no reason to do so.
While this might be true (oh come on, let me say "might be" instead of "is"). Honestly it's turning two pages at once.
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>>37708239
Well, yeah. But what could happen? Worst case scenario? One more person to cut off. Best case scenario? You get a cool aunt.

>>37708278
>- a big red A, standing both for the first letter of LO's name and the scarlet letter, for obvious reasons
That's ... melodramatic. I know, coming from me it sounds retarded, but I just have to say it.

Personally if I were to get a tatoo, I'd get some pattern. Maybe tribal or something like that. It's generic, but that's what I'd like. I'd get it all over my forearms. Not a picture, just a pattern.
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>>37708295
>You chose the latter in this specific case while your advice is to respond with an insult, which makes you a hypocrite technically.

As if all these situations were the same. Strike 2. The advice I gave you was for you, not necessarily what I would do myself. Plus, I did tell you to get better friends first. There's a huge difference between interacting socially with friends or acquaintances and interacting on a thread like this one.

>It's not that fun when people test you like this, is it? That's the point.

Actually, it is, because I didn't expect it, so I enjoy that part, but it makes you sound like a cunt, hence strike 2. If someone tested me like this offline, I wouldn't feel like I'm being tested, but that they're failing my test.

>I'm aware of how to respond to appear "alpha", and manly, how to defend yourself from it.

I doubt it, because you sound like an obnoxious little bitch.

My insult was to insult them back in the context of competitive sports, where this happens a lot. You compare with this a thread about psychological issues. Far-fetched attempt to justify your insult to me.
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>>37708304
>I'm honestly probably for the first time realizing I might actually be mentally ill.

That's a huge, huge step. It's more than many mentally ill people do, and that's awesome.

>Honestly it's turning two pages at once

Take your time, go at your own pace.

I'm listening to ICP's first album from 1990, is this bad, doc?
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>>37708384
>That's ... melodramatic.

Aren't all tattoos?

>Maybe tribal or something like that.

My superior has one, and everyone makes fun of it in her back because tribal tats died 15 years ago. It's the most outdated shit you can get.
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>>37708477
>I'm listening to ICP's first album from 1990, is this bad, doc?
This is spooky. I've actually been listening to horrorcore for the last year or so. Pretty much since I started going downhill. Not to ICP though. Surprisingly enough, the music calms down. Takes the anger out of me. Never liked it before. I know it's edgy as fuck, but who gives a shit really.

So I'd say it's not that bad.

A taste if you're interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vAC2HKp45Y
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>>37708555

Kek be praised.

I have to say, while I don't like rap music, I enjoy ICP. They're actually funny and have more depth than you'd think. Plus that 1990 album sounds like 80's rap, so that's fun too.

I'll check your thingy.

https://youtu.be/RIKPt1dBmd0?t=25m6s

In medias res.
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>>37708528
>Aren't all tattoos?
I guess.

>It's the most outdated shit you can get.
Yeah, I meant a pattern in general. Still it's kinda silly that anyone gives a shit if it's outdated.

Honestly my first thought would be to get something generated by cellular automata. It's a "formalism" that generates things that seem random but really aren't. You know what I mean? Something that almost seems like a completely random mess but it's really not. It can actually be used to model many things that happen in the nature.

Pretty autistic, but hey.
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>>37708687
>Still it's kinda silly that anyone gives a shit if it's outdated.

Tribals were always shit, but people only realised this recently.

Fractal tattoos need to become the next big thing.
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>>37708555

Spent 4 seconds trying to understand. Heh.

Dem rolled r's, holy shit.
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>>37708304
>Eh, something like that I'm only not ignoring the truth that other people do ignore. What's the retort here ...
Maybe the retort is that they don't ignore the truth, but they just don't let it weight them down and stop them from being happy and content?

To which I would say something like "you can't be happy if you're not a Chad" which is probably just a thinly-veiled attempt at self-harm. I guess everyone is capable of working enough to be happy? Even if you get born a diseased cripple, you can I guess do things to make yourself content? But you will never get as much as Chad. Why exactly does that matter so much ...
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>>37708278
this, but since you're Nick that would be more apropriate than mr cool ice
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>>37708792
>Maybe the retort is that they don't ignore the truth, but they just don't let it weight them down and stop them from being happy and content?

When you're happy, mentally healthy, you don't need to ask so many questions about life: you just enjoy living. That's what you aim for.

Happiness is in your brain, you can work towards there, you can, anyone can. We're all adaptative.

Chads don't exist, nor do normies. These are all core beliefs that don't mean shit in reality.
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>>37708750
Yeah actually cellular automata when you program them, they can be used to generate very fractal-like structures. I hope someone from /sci/ doesn't tear me a new one here, because I don't understand the math behind these things too much. I only programmed those a couple times.

But yeah, I agree. I'm honestly surprised they aren't more popular. Tatoos inspired by randomness in computation. And not just computation. Pattern-based tatoos need to become big.
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>>37708304
>Yet people see the world and live. I see the world and only logical conclusion is to kill myself. What would I usually say to this? Eh, something like that I'm only not ignoring the truth that other people do ignore.

Even if your perspectives are logical, your feelings, issues etc tend to determine how you feel about whatever truth you've found. If you're at a good place in your life and feel good about yourself, the negative stuff means less. You care less about your own flaws, the flaws of others, the flaws of 'the world', society.

I have fairly volatile feelings (due to health issues), I can go from feeling fine and optimistic- to suicidal later that evening. And that's even though I have the same pessimistic thoughts about people, my future or just stuff in general. I just don't give that much of a shit when I feel better.

And it all feels real. When I'm feeling down, suicide seems like a good option. When I feel better, I'm optimistic and have drive. Shrugs. Human perspective is very fallible
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>>37708809

My first thought is that this guy is anorexic and has no traps or back muscles. Did /fit/ get to me?
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>>37708854

Do you know Conway's Game of Life? I had a few programs of that on my old computer.

Do you have any program for cellular automata?
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>>37706039
Hey Nick how's life and everything else? I finally got paid so was able to go to the chiropractor and ease my back pain that had been gettig worse, so I'm in a great mood today.
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>>37708973

I told you by e-mail. Brace. I spared you the details.
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>>37708886
>Do you know Conway's Game of Life? I had a few programs of that on my old computer.
Oh yeah. That thing is so much fun. Honestly a couple times when we were in the pub, we were just playing around with it and trying to see what we can do. I know a guy who used these to generate random 3D models of ... trees maybe? Not sure. I remember us making cities full of glider generators and having battles with them by shooting gliders at each other. Nerdy as shit, but god damn was that fun.

>Do you have any program for cellular automata?
Saddly not. I removed most of these, they were very simple programs. There is a shitton of apps for playing around with CA though.
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>>37708986
That's what's happening, not how you are. If you need to unload i've got one ear today. Other is for boss since I'm still at work, else you'd get them both.
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>>37709088

I'm fine.

Back to 8-second bans...
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>>37708847
>Chads don't exist, nor do normies. These are all core beliefs that don't mean shit in reality.
Yeah I meant in general people who got luckier and thanks to that have better lives. Should their better lives stop you from being happy though... And are they to be considered an enemy for being luckier?

>>37708866
We seem pretty similar. Honestly I don't want to get you into a big fight with me, because I know myself. I'm a fucking cunt. I'm just pretty much arguing with myself while using you guys as a feedback of sorts. So don't take it wrong that I don't respond to your points properly. If I did, knowing myself, I'd go right off the tracks.

I'm really glad you responded though.
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>>37709166
>Should their better lives stop you from being happy though... And are they to be considered an enemy for being luckier?

Of course not, especially since you can never know if they are really happier than you are or not.
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https://youtu.be/y7izS0zI93A

Instrumental music. I love this one.

https://youtu.be/7rflLxBoTVw
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>>37709220

Forget the first link, bad video.
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>>37709166
You should see me when I get drunk, I'd outcunt you. In between being an emo fagget and a whiny loser, I'm also blessed with an underlying resentment towards people that I tend to lash out on various random people. I'm a ball of fun.
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>>37709251
You like David Lynch? Or just the music? I'm asking because my cousin was very fond of his movies. So before I was 15 I saw pretty much all he had made until then. I don't remember Lost Highway too much though, since it's over 10 years ago. I really liked Mulholland Drive though. And Eraserhead gave me nightmares ...
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https://youtu.be/m8p7-baF9w8

Enjoy. Never heard of her before, randomly showed up on my YouTube. I dig it.
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>>37709321

I like Lynch, yes. Lost Highway is probably my favourite, I think it's underrated. Mulholland Drive is a bit like Lost Highway, it's a take on a similar idea. I still haven't seen Eraserhead.

Too bad Lynch stopped making movies.
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>>37709137
I'm glad you're doing ok, despite the shit you're currently in. You need something just let me know ok?
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>>37709367

Thanks.

I'm watching more capeshit now.
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I want to fucking DIE.
A really original wish.
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>>37709407

Explain why. Do it.
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Hello Nick, fellow swiss.
I just wanted to thank you for the advice you gave me a couple weeks ago. Do you remember me?
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>>37706039
>Should be caring for myself
>I dont therefore no reason to do anything
The vicious circle
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>>37709467

I remember you. Anything new since then?

Where are you again?
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>>37709511

Start small. Do something simple and short. Clip your nails, take a shower, brush your teeth, any small thing. Love yourself.
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>>37709275
Is it possible that you're my twin brother? Jokes aside, that's pretty much me.

>>37709185
And that they get more out of life for less effort? But what do they get? Maybe just because they get more out of life doesn't necessarily mean they are happy? Maybe while achievements in life can be objectively measured, happiness can not? So you can at the same time live an average life and be content and happy and it doesn't make you worse than someone who has much more of everything?

I'm gonna have to process this ...

Isn't it just a cope people tell themselves?

>>37709347
Speaking of music from Lost Highway ... also the name fits this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jdtMIpF56s

Also you should really see Eraser Head. It's a very interesting movie. The part about nightmares shouldn't bother you too much since I was 13 when I saw it. Totally not ready for that ...
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>>37709525
>Love yourself.
What for? I care the least about myself. I like an alien.
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>>37709528
>And that they get more out of life for less effort?

You don't know that. Your English is pretty good compared to most people in your country, how do you feel about "getting more for less efforts"? Do you even think it was less efforts?

People don't spend their time comparing this shit, it's pointless, you can never know, and if you could, who would care?
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>>37709572
>What for? I care the least about myself. I like an alien.

That's the problem. Think of yourself as someone else, someone else who'd be a baby. No baby deserves hate.
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>>37709605
>No baby deserves hate.
If i'm a parent to myself then i'm a very distant one who neglects the child.
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>>37709635
>If i'm a parent to myself then i'm a very distant one who neglects the child.

And so it's time to change. You need your own love if you want to grow and eventually have the love of others for yourself and your own for them.
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>>37709737
>You need your own love
but i hate myself just because i exist in this place.
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>>37709595
>Your English is pretty good compared to most people in your country, how do you feel about "getting more for less efforts"?
Not the greatest example, since I did spend a lot of time using english. Mostly in online games, while most people I know did not.

Well the point is, that even if they did get more out of life for less effort. Well even the sentence wouldn't make sense. They don't get more. Well objectively they do, but even the people who get less can be happy. So I guess it doesn't matter?

I can't explain how alien this idea sounds to me.
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>>37709787
>but i hate myself just because i exist in this place.

Nobody starts life hating themselves, how did you get there?
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>>37709835
>Not the greatest example, since I did spend a lot of time using english. Mostly in online games, while most people I know did not.

Exactly. Think about that next time you see a fit motherfucker.
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>>37709512
I'm somewhat close to Zurich.
I have now found a psychiatrist, who is specialized for ASD. That way I can get the best evaluation for my hypothesis. I also found out that I was sent to an ASD-testing from a school-psychologist after general testing six years ago, but it never happened because my parents never made the appointment. This was because I had problems in school. This strenghtens my hypothesis that it was no coincidence that I identified with symptoms of ASD so strongly.
I really hope to get answers soon.
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>>37710047
Do I even need to go there with the obvious next point about stuff out of your control?
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>>37710109

Good news!

Let me know how it goes.
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>>37710153
>Do I even need to go there with the obvious next point about stuff out of your control?

No, you don't, motherfucker. Anyone with muscles on him has spent serious amounts of time working on them, period. Nobody gets that shit for nothing. Trust me.

All right?
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>>37710035
>Nobody starts life hating themselves, how did you get there?
As long as i remember i've had this thought that i'm not meant to be alive.
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>>37710243

Can you narrow it down until you remember whose voice it was that made you feel that way?
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>>37710258
>Can you narrow it down until you remember whose voice it was that made you feel that way?
It's just my inner voice. I dont recall anyone saying that on me.
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>>37710317

Any early memories of feeling ashamed of yourself?
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>>37710181
Not quite what I was getting at. I meant things out of your control in general.
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>>37710350
>. I meant things out of your control in general.

Forget about that, it means nothing, focus on the fucking DETAILS, where the real shit is happening, where you have control.

Make a list of 5 things you want out of life. Go.
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>>37710342
>Any early memories of feeling ashamed of yourself?
I wouldnt call that early but in kindergarden i shat my pants and one of the workers had to clean me up but some kids saw and made fun of me. I guess that some kids from yard made fun of me too.
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Surprised to see you starting up another thread. Welcome back.
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>>37710427

Kindergarten, I feel forced to correct you on account of my being a teacher; it's a German word.

OK, any other shame-based memory? Something that felt unfair.

>>37710477

You should know I'm full of surprises.
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>>37710399
It's things that make your life more or less difficult. Do they mean nothing or are you just saying that?

>Make a list of 5 things you want out of life. Go.
I honestly don't know.
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>>37710504
>OK, any other shame-based memory?
Well i used to have a lot of verbal conflicts with my grandma because my brother was much more helping and i was the lazy one.
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>>37710504
>Note to selves: Operation Cuckoo suspended
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>>37710542
>It's things that make your life more or less difficult. Do they mean nothing or are you just saying that?

More or less difficult than... the lives of others? You never know. It doesn't matter to you what others have to face, each his own race.

Now focus on 5 things you want, don't pussy out.

My therapist did this on me, in a different way, and I too wasn't used to think that way. Do it faggot.
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>>37710558

Is this because I'm Swiss?
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>>37710608
>More or less difficult than... the lives of others? You never know.
And once again. Statistics about attractive, rich, tall.

>Now focus on 5 things you want, don't pussy out.
Honestly? What real Dan would say?

1. Be at least 6'3"
2. Be at least 8/10
3. Get born into a rich family
4. Get born intelligent

I mean do I have to go on?
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>>37710708
>And once again. Statistics about attractive, rich, tall.

I have shoved your stats deep down my ass and they died there.

>1. Be at least 6'3"
2. Be at least 8/10
3. Get born into a rich family
4. Get born intelligent

That's 4, not five.

Try again, but ask for things you can actually achieve, not impossibilities. I'm sure you're a 9/10 you poofter.

And you are intelligent, so you have number 4, and 2.
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>>37710616
That information is classified. Still, how are you doing? You were reeling last time do you've shaken it off, I hope?
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>>37710758
>I have shoved your stats deep down my ass and they died there.
Well it's just that advantages exist.

>Try again, but ask for things you can actually achieve, not impossibilities.
Then I just don't know. Well I do know, but what I really want is impossibilities.
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>>37710780
>You were reeling last time

I was?

Shit happened since then but my brain is in better shape, so way less symptoms.

Mental health is like the brain in Amnesia, it depends less on what's going on than literally the physical shape of your brain bits.
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>>37710916
>Well it's just that advantages exist.

They also exist for you.

>Well I do know, but what I really want is impossibilities.

Stop ensuring that you can't do anything because you never target accessible goals.

Now work on it and make me a list of 5 things you want that you CAN get. Go.
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>>37711053
You more or less said that because of personal circumstances you were having to step away indefinitely. It sounds as though you've come to terms with the issue.
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>>37708186
Atlas keeps getting forgotten...
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>>37711090

I forget. It was probably just work. I'm on holidays soon.

Tomorrow I have to spend 2 hours within 10 meters of X, it's going to be fucking painful, again.
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>>37711074
>They also exist for you.
In some things, I guess. But in many things I am at a disadvantage.

>Now work on it and make me a list of 5 things you want that you CAN get. Go.
What's the point of that? There are some things I can get.
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>>37711179

I actually missed your post. Cute Pepe.
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>>37711187

Bitch, just make the fucking list.
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>>37711179
No one could forget you, you bloated fish fucker. between that odious complexion and the tumescent swelling of your body I'd swear you were a drowned sailor back to haunt us.
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>>37711184
I won't push it if you're in denial or something. Glad to have you around. 2 hours will be rough, no doubt about it. You'll tank it out though. You're made of sterner stuff.
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>>37711268
>you bloated fish fucker
>>37711268
>that odious complexion
>>37711268
>the tumescent swelling
>>37711268
>a drowned sailor back to haunt us.

Fuck yeah, poetry. I'd open that thread for your words alone.

I notice all the women I loved were good with words.
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>>37711295
>I won't push it if you're in denial or something.

It is true that I had loads of work to do and no time to open the thread.

Did I tell you my parents want to sue me?
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>>37711213
1. Earn at least double the average pay in my country
2. Speak 5 languages fluently
3. Experience intimacy without having to pay a hooker
4. Have a job that is challenging enough
5. Understand mathematics at at least a math major level
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>>37711390

Sounds like a good list.

Now choose one and make a list of steps to get there.
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>>37711268
Hey i actually walked home from work again, took me about an hour as yesterday but I might just start doing it on purpose
Met a cute girl on way home.
Dont know why she fascinated me so much.
It was hot as fuck and she was still wearing pretty much all black just like me, had a resting bitch face, glasses and smoked a last bit of her cigarette.

maybe I should have asked her if she could spare one for me and start a conversation but that idea came up about 5 mins after I passed her...
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Making my continued existence known.
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>>37711388
It was definitely to do with revelations surrounding your mother. You did mention the suing, I don't recall if that was the whole thing.

>>37711365
I aim to please. That was all spontaneous rather than the usual stuff I mull over when I'm bored.

>>37711486
Walking is an excellent starting point. If you're not used to it you might surprise yourself with the difference it makes to your general energy levels. It definitely sucks when you put it together well after the fact. Just keep an eye out - for her but also others like her - and make a move next time. You can do it.

>>37711495
That jester doesn't look funny. He doesn't look funny at all.
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>>37711436
I choose 5.

Since I tried to do that. But I just couldn't get through the basic analysis textbook (by Walter Rudin). It just didn't click for me. I tried to do all the exercises, but by the time I got to cantor sets it just didn't connect.

So I guess the obvious step now would be to go through Pre Calculus material? Kinda strange though since I passed about half a dozen of math courses. But I'm striving for different kind of understanding. Math courses for engineers teach you more how to use the stuff, how to count the stuff, not the abstract ideas behind it and mostly not even the formal foundations. Anyways, yeah.

So I guess I should get a pre calculus material to go through. Probably something about logic too.
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>>37711495

Your existence has been noted.

Now chill and tell us about stuff.
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>>37711577
>It was definitely to do with revelations surrounding your mother.

Oh yeah, Assassin's Creed 2 basically raped my mother right next to me when I was a baby. Twice. Yay, origin stories.

I might contact my aunt, the rapist's sister. My message is ready, just not sure what to do, and nobody votes on my poll.

>>37708151
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>>37711625
I'm supposed to fish around in the shallow pond of my mind for a suitably captivating anecdote or some new development in my issues? Not particularly appealing.
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>>37711677
Action > Inaction every time
Screw your courage to the sticking place
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>>37711595

Sounds good to me, though I can't judge any of it.
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>>37711750

That or anything you want. Share your favourite fractal.
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>>37707268
>you sent her a pic of you or of Chad
Speaking of Chad, good thing he's not with us today. That kid sounded literally retarded
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>>37711761

I'll send my message after midnight, on Facebook, where I found her. The weirdest message..


"Dear Madam,

I am sorry to bother you, especially since it may all be for nothing; you might be my aunt.

If you have an older brother who goes by the name of Assassin's Creed 2, then you may very well be the person I'm looking for. Please contact me at this address:

etc."

Fucked up shit. I'm pretty sure it's her. I might meet up, and it's going to be just like in the fucking movies.
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>>37711577
Thanks, maybe next time Ill find my balls and actually do something. Well see

But honestly I never aproached anyone on the streets like this so I dont think it would happen now anyway
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>>37711786
I don't have a favorite, but I like 3D ones. Infinity seems nauseating to me right now. Since you mention it, I will share a fractal vision I had a few days ago under the influence of the sacred cubes. I saw an entity called "The Many Masked Man." This was an alien with infinitely many masks, each concealing another beneath it. I had the sense that there was no core to this creature at all, but that he was masks all the way down. The false countenances seemed to have a hypnotic purpose, to lure you into eternal fascination with them. And he certainly was fascinating, but his true motives were inscrutable to me.
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>>37711845
One thing that keeps surprising me is that other people - say, people who work behind bars or in shops - actually seem to be alive. Actually real people with thoughts! Try this experiment if you don't believe me: use their name if they wear a nametag or compliment them in some small way about their clothes or service. They suddenly become lucid. Very odd.

>>37711829
Tell her you need her help to renovate the town, in anticipation of repelling the Templars. Definitely do it though. Perhaps nothing will come of it, but if that happens then it won't be because you didn't try. Far worse to regret never having made the attempt. I like to imagine that the man who leaps and falls short reaches Heaven with a smile on his face.
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>>37711912

Sounds like that novel I want to write... Uncanny.
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>>37711916
>Far worse to regret never having made the attempt.

My thoughts exactly.

It was also my thought before I betrayed LO though.
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>>37711963
Have you mentioned it before?
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>>37711975
Then I'm glad you did it. Your life has more of a sense of narrative now. Your self-reproach fills you out. The agony of not knowing is the most pathetic way to wither.
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Dumping some feelgood.

https://youtu.be/qV5lzRHrGeg

Bonus if you grew up on Tom Hanks.
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Penis

Original ect
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I'm not going to be here for long guys. Just figured I'd pop in and share that that I came to a revelation last night in another thread. I think a part of my problem is that I feel like I need to get permission or otherwise earn the right to feel like shit. No matter what I do, it just never feels like it's enough and I guess I just need someone close to me to tell me that I've done enough and that I'm a good person who deserves to take some time for themselves.

Anyways, I got a final presentation to present later today that's not done yet. I've spent too much time on 4chan being pathetic when I should've been working on this. Wish me luck.
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>>37712273
Good luck, Charlie!
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>>37712273

With you in spirit.
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>>37712273
I wish you the best of luck. Although, depending on the field I'd be willing to give you some additional support away from the thread if you'd like it. How's it coming together?
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Dropped my trip, as per usual.
>>37712388
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>>37711996
I would like an answer to this question, please.
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>>37711996

I haven't. I won't mention it in any detail, but that was uncanny.

Sorry, missed your post.
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>>37712480
Strange stuff, especially considering how preoccupied with coincidences I've been as a result of these experiences.
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Nick, I may need your insight here. Basically I'd like to read more on mental illnesses and psychology concepts. Which would obviously be related to my symptoms.
Reading about the schizoid personality disorder allowed my psychiatrist and I to see that I go through depersonalisation, derealisation and blunted feelings.

So, could you drop a few names that could have the symptoms I just listed? Just read about C PTSD as it was posted in the thread, and it was an interesting read.

And while I'm at it, hello everyone else. Even if I said Penis already, you dick loving faggots
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>>37712297
>>37712374
Thanks guys

>>37712388
It's coming together alright. It's for my culminating project so it' pretty much just about how and what I've been doing the past few months. I'm not too bad of a public speaker and have bullshit my way through presentations with less, I just need to add a few more slides.

I appreciate the gesture, but I don't quite feel comfortable telling the thread my field at this point. I pour out a lot of shit in these threads and I and don't want to give away too many dots to connect and lead back to me on the off chance someone I know is here. I'll say that what I told Moe a few days back (IT) wasn't quite accurate.

I got to start heading to class. Hope you all have a nice day.
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>>37712535

I do telepathy on the fly now. Happened at the bbw party last time. I fucking finish people's sentences for them.

"Do you..."

"...live nearby? Yeah, about ten minutes."

"How the... Are you a telepath?"
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>>37712587
Please let us know how it goes. I totally understand. You're far from the only paranoia-fag here. Besides, the amount I know about IT (and related subjects) is probably less than the average 13 year-old anyway. If you have public speaking too; well. There it is.

>>37712617
This is just obscene empathy/ insight. A superpower in its own right, albeit a deeply troubling one. Consider it the positive outcome to the radioactive waste that was your childhood.
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>>37712617
How often does this really happen? What's the most striking example in recent memory?
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>>37712572

Off the bat, not sure.

Maybe get the DSM V.
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>>37712667
Would you want supercharged empathy if it was available to you?
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>>37712667
>This is just obscene empathy/ insight. A superpower in its own right, albeit a deeply troubling one. Consider it the positive outcome to the radioactive waste that was your childhood.

I do see everything in terms of capeshit now.

>>37712725

Very often. I don't always just finish people's sentences, but I know what they're going to say. Sometimes I even get fucking names.

"Nothing is created, nothing is lost, everything transforms."

I knew that quote, but I didn't know Lavoisier said it. Science teacher quoted it, and I instantly knew the name, though I had no memories of it.

I think I stole it from his mind.

"Lavoisier."

"Yeah, actually!"

I had no fucking clue how I knew.
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>>37712737
Alright, thanks anyway.

And for your poll, do it.
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>>37712757
There's two issues here: the red button question (always yes) and the actual question. If I could take empathy I'd do it in a heartbeat. I think that if there's anything that stops me being normal it's that. Well, that and anxiety/ self-doubt. But yes I'd take empathy. More points in anything is generally a positive.
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>>37712791
Want to test it from afar? Just for laughs?
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>>37712880

Sure. You go.
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>>37712909
Well, what should I think of? A word? A name? I was going to do two colored digits (just regular colors, no obscure shades). I have those in mind and I'll visualize them while waiting.
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>>37712972

A shape.
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>>37712995
Ok, I have one. Thinking of it now. It's got a color as well.
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>>37713030

Green triangle.

Probably won't work but whatever, it's fun.
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>>37713045
Nah, orange octagon.
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>>37712995
Purple heptagon

>>37713096
Well I was close!
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>>37706039

I have no will to live or move forward. I failed out of college, I was very close to getting a job at a corporate firm. I am afraid of failing again. I don't know what to do. Every time I try to move forward, my body resist and I avoid the task.
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Do you guys seriously believe in telepathy though? I'm curious
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>>37713103
I'm a little ashamed to admit that I'm probably going to play around with "magick" in the near future just to see what happens.
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>>37713137

Yes. I've experienced it. I've literally felt a sadness that wasn't my own, at a specific time, and the other person felt mine. It all checked out.

It was fucking insane.
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>>37713137
No, we're just messing around. No harm in seeing what happens, other than wasting a bit of time. I'm technically agnostic about paranormal phenomena.
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>>37713196
Is there no other satisfactory explanation?
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>>37713196
Do you believe in any other paranormal stuff?
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>>37713186
No shame in it. Better to try than to assume. Far worse to trust in the knowledge of wise men.
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>>37713241

Not to my knowledge, no. Telepathy normally happens between family members when someone dies or has an accident. She and I were connected on a level that made this possible. It's as crazy as it sounds.

>>37713247

I was always interested, now less, but no, not really. I can't deny my own experience though.
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>>37713255
I'll feel very silly with my hands and phallus covered in olive oil just after realizing that all my intoning of mantras in an ancient tongue in a desperate autoerotic ritual to summon a succubus has left me in... oh, let's be honest, a rather ordinary state...
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>>37713305
Alrighty

On an unrelated note, something's popping in my mind, and I might as well share it.

I commute two hours and a half when I have to go to work. Tramway plus bus takes a while, and one would assume I'd get bored of it. The thing is, I'm not. I'm just sitting, without listening to music or talking to anyone. In fact, I just wait. I don't even think.
And that's what rationally troubles me: I have no activities on a conscious level, I really just wait. Like an NPC, without feeling anything.

It's an exemple of something affecting me on a greater scale: sure I feel like the spectator of myself as you already know, as if there was distance between me and myself, and me and reality. However, I barely think, imagine, remember, feel. In other words, I have a very poor conscious life.

Did anyone live the same?
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>>37713305
What's your preferred metaphysical framework for explaining this latent capacity of the human mind? Or do you just leave those explanatory details completely open-ended?
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>>37713357

Damn...

>>37713410

I have no idea, very curious, however.

I know it happened.
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>>37713383
>In fact, I just wait. I don't even think.
And that's what rationally troubles me: I have no activities on a conscious level, I really just wait. Like an NPC, without feeling anything.

I'm not doubting you, but I find this almost impossible to believe. No thoughts are occurring at this time?
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>>37713357
There's little more erotic than oil desu. Less so when you're just wanking into the aether, but A for effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixRchACvj60
Here's a little bit of your life, and a bit of mine.
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Alright, I'm here. My days keep getting objectively better and I feel and fear the crashdown is going to come down hard on me soon.

How are you guys doing?
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>>37713472
I'll never forget the first time someone went a little "Oscar Wilde" on my ass.
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>>37713539
IKTF. Also, when I see your name I think of Moe Szyslak doing his street-dance shotgun backflip combo. Should I be thinking more of moe pic related?
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>>37713467
If you look at embers closely, you can spot little fire spots.
It's pretty much the same. I have little to no thoughts occuring to me, and could very well have one faint memory popping up for a little while (a couple of seconds) before it dies out.

I guess the world dissociation really fits well, even right now I don't feel like I'm thinking, albeit I am: otherwise I wouldn't be able to write this.

It's like there is two me, the real me that is watching reality from far away, avoiding anything that could hurt; while a husk is interacting with the world. The husk can barely think, the real me doesn't want to. Lel. In all honesty,trying to explain this shit is new to me. So if it doesn't make too much sense, there's a reason.
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>>37713585
>I'll never forget the first time someone went a little "Oscar Wilde" on my ass.

I haven't watched the video, but that sounds wrong.
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>>37713618
Not really, it is a leftover from edgy MMO days when I had Moebius as a nickname
Also, anime was a mistake.
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I don't have any real issues anyone here can help with, just want to say hello to everyone I've talked to here.
I guess I'll ask everyone a question. Have you ever found something that gives your life meaning, but conciously hold yourself back from doing it as much as you like to try and keep yourself from losing interest? I do that with shows, force myself to one episode a week, and am currently doing the same with my quest. I don't want the few things left I enjoy to become boring too.
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>>37713818
Let's ship Miyazaki with Anno.
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>>37706039
When I was in high school people told me that people are only your "true" friend if they hang out with you. I only would go to 2 peoples houses. I had plenty of more people that I talked to, but I never hung out with them and they never hung out with me outside of school. My house was boring so I never asked people over. Did people never ask me because i'm boring? I never had a good phone because I lived in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with no service. Those people never even asked if I wanted their numbers so we could talk if we were bored or whatever normies do. But I talked to some people daily that I never hung out with. Do people only hang out if they have hobbies in common? The only hobby I had/have is gaming as much as I can. People still found me funny and said they thought I was a great kid. I'm not sure what they really thought of me, it all could have just been a facade so I liked them? Do people always expect me to 100% of the time initiate conversations?
Sorry for the many questions i'm just an insecure loser with no friends.
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Say... did any of the regulars (excluding AFH who graciously responded at the time) catch the post where I talked about the semi-conscious experience I has involving an alien facet? Tried finding it via archive but I'm not a technomancer
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>>37713840
To me, something giving my life a meaning was always on an abstract level. Whenever I made it a reality, it lost its strenght.

Exemple? Getting /fit/. It was motivating and everything before starting, but as soon as I started lifting weights it became an activity like the rest. My dream became another thing on my list of choirs.

I don't hold myself back though, I try to keep it strong by looking at who and what I was before, and seek new objectives. I guess life is a about always jumping from one objective to another.
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>>37713840
Sort of. But right now that thing is a girl and I need to hold myself back so as to not spook either of us.

Other than that, not really, I tend to get pretty obsessed about stuff.
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>>37713843

Yoko Anno? I like her music a lot.
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>>37713928
When was this? I want to see. I'll find it.
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>>37713914

>Boop

Uncanny. That was my LO's nick originally, it changed a bit after that. It came from the sound I made while bumping her sleepy nose.
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>>37713928
Can't help

>>37713992
>not knowing about Hideako Anno
>not knowing Miyazaki's friend
You're missing something pal
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>>37714003
As far as I can tell it wasn't in the last two threads. It was within the last week. AFH responded with something like 'I genuinely don't know what to say'. I used 'genuinely' in my search.
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>>37714003
Oh, the word 'alien' came up as well. Pretty sure. Ayy lmao
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>>37714015
It's just my steam name. Pretty common to be honest.
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Open question. Who are some talented male vocalists you guys like?
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>>37714032
>Hideako Anno

Actually, I do. I'm a huge Evangelion fan.

Hideaki, no?
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>>37714126
Big fan of Tom Waits and to a normier extent, Johnny Cash myself. Those two and ____________you senpai_________
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>>37714146
Yep. Kind of tired.

Hope you checked Legend of galactic heroes. NGE is a masterpiece, LOGH is too.
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I'm checking craigslist a lot, in cities like Rejkjavik and London and Paris and the rest.

Lots of fake shit.

>tfw you recognise porn star pics used in scamming ads

It's time to stop porn when you recognise dicks.
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Crikey. It's like only animes know how to sensitively deal with alters. Nippon does it again, folded over 1000 times
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>>37714173
Can't find your alien thing, but I'll look again later.

Haven't really listened to much of either. I guess I'm just looking for some new material to try out. Same old stuff is getting stultifying.
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Had a bit of an old cry. Dunno what to do really. Just conscious that I always just kick up a fuss so tryin to keep my head. Don't want to Nick to just insult me like always. Just trying to find a way forward. Watching dumb cartoons and it rly hit a nerve all of a sudden. I know it comes off super melodramatic but kinda true no one values me for me if you see what I mean.
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>>37714263
What kind of scams involve dickpics?

>>37714414
Aw shit man. What happenned?
I hate crying, it makes me feel retarded. But I recently would have loved to be able to cry at will for a bit.
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>>37714414

C'm here, lady, you know I'll always protect you.
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>>37714440
>What kind of scams involve dickpics?

Unrelated thoughts.

>>37714440
>Aw shit man. What happenned?

He may have switched. Regular Facet doesn't write "rly". She does.
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>>37714414
I don't see what you mean. I think I value you for you, but perhaps it's true that I'm no one. I don't see why you don't feel valued, Facet(?)
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>>37714514

It's not him anymore. It's her.
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>>37714440
Well so. We're watching HxH and Killua told his imouto's alter, Nanika, to never come back and it was so sad. An then he talked to the other one and she said she'd never forgive him if he didn't look after her too right? So then he asked her back and said sorry. Thayt was bad enough but then I thought
>But I don't have magic powers so no one will care anyway
I feel dumb saying it back tho
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>>37714490
>>37714467
This is what I mean you act like I'm a demon or something so you make me feel bad. Not gonna use a sadface because you'll say I'm being immature
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>>37714525
Hence the parenthetical question mark. I will wait for confirmation.
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>>37713928
I remember it, think it was a non-numbered one if that helps.
>>37713941
That is I think what happens. I have to pace myself or I burn out completly.
>>37713979
You shouldn't base your life around a woman. Trust me, I know.
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>>37714564
>This is what I mean you act like I'm a demon or something so you make me feel bad. Not gonna use a sadface because you'll say I'm being immature

It's OK. You're not a demon.

What ails you nowadays?
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>>37714564
Ok, this is confirmation enough. I think you must be mostly talking at Nick, because I don't do any of that to you.
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>>37714591
Oh humm well, I spose maybe everyone has to wonder about it but, place in the world? I guess I'm used to trying to like triangulate to find out where I am - like look to other people? but I don't have an answer right now. I feel like rly at a lose end. I feel like ppl would just be glad if I was gone an it's a bad feeling
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>>37714637

How do you imagine your own death?
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>>37714633
Heya meta no you don't, you don't. Still feeling off tho. What do you do if you don't have like a really good idea about direction, say? I just dunno what to do - or if I can do anything!

>>37714650
Just fading off. Like, getting smothered up into quicksand. But everyone is just looking at the sand like it's so great anyway. And I'm like a pebble messing up the background. Then everyone's not even happy I'm gone just more don't notice, or if they remember, it's like they're shuddering thinking about a night the window was left open and a breeze got in?
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>>37706039
>When you post on this thread asking something
>When nobody actually tries to answer those questions

I understand my life isn't worth trying to fix it's too fucked up at this point
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>>37714705
What happens if you take a moment to just be directionless, in choiceless awareness of sensations and thoughts, noting them as they arise and letting them pass? What if you try it?
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>>37714775
Huh? I don't get it. What do you mean?
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>>37714763
Post it again. Sometimes regulars get distracted or don't feel up to answering/don't know exactly how to help. Remember that most people here are also suffering from some sort of affliction.
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>>37714804
Maybe all this thinking about direction could be settled if you just let the thoughts run their course without getting lost in their apparent importance. Just watch what the thoughts do and what your body is doing.
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>>37714805
It's fine. It was just a one time question type of thing. Other people probably could use the help more than I need it.
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>>37714845
Huh? Well I dunno if I get it but my thoughts are saying to drink and also to throw my glass against the wall. And if I did that, then I wouldn't have a glass and I'd have to clean it up, right?
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>>37714870
Its not about needing it for real. Just having something to talk about helps us all.
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>>37714870
Whether that's true or not, it's no reason to deprive yourself of help if it's available. If anything else arises, don't hesitate to post it.
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>>37714877
True, but that's another set of thoughts, which might stay for a while on repeat or morph into something new. You can let them keep coming like a water slide or something and just see what they do. It might make certain issues seem less pressing. If not, we can dwell a bit longer on them.
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>>37714962
I'm sorry meta I don't get it :(
I think you're saying to feel all kinds of ways but I don't know how?
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>>37715000
There's nothing you need to do. You can just focus on your breath. You're already focusing on something already, so just try shifting it onto the changes in your body that accompany breathing. There's nothing to it.

Alternatively, we can talk about this need for direction. Where will you be without it and what's wrong with not having it?
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>>37714650
I know this isn't my question, but I'mma go with a heart attack at 50ish. Don't want to live without being able to wipe my own ass.
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>>37715142

50 is way too young. If you take care of your bod, you can live up to 90 and still wipe your own ass.
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>>37715152

Was me.

Night yall.
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>>37715110
Well I literally could just never have a thing and it wouldn't matter cos I'm #2? I'm pretty much an afterthought the whole time! And I can't even say it's wrong cos I don't have a big mission or anything anyway
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>>37715142
How are you doing, Hero? I haven't talked to you in a while.
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>>37715163
Sasuga Nick-sensei
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>>37715163
Good night. Be cool.
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>>37715163
Night Nick. See you around next thread I'm in.
>>37715205
I'm around. Been running a /qst/, so haven't been posting here, mostly lurking.
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>>37715187
Do you think there'd be a difference in your raw sensation this moment if you did have knowledge tucked away in the corner of your mind about a big mission? I think you might find the experience of being a human mind aware of itself is not much different between those who have an integral part in shaping the world in ways that we and other people care about and those we seem to have a less prominent role. I'm trying to get you to see beyond these distinctions and look at the raw quality of experience as it is without appending labels to it.
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>>37715279
Arright so. You want me to look at my "uninflected" (right?) experience and weigh it up on its own terms?
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>>37715270
That sounds like a lot of fun. If I knew anything about that stuff, I'd ask to play.
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>>37715348
Just go to /qst/ and read/play along. Find something set in a fictional universe you like. The QM will give you whatever roll you need to make or show you your choices for decisions.
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>>37715329
Or don't weigh it all. The act of weighing could be detrimental to just merely feeling identical to the experience of being aware. The recognition that awareness might not vary as much as you think between the "chosen" and the riffraff may come along for the ride at some stage, but the goal for now is just to be mindful.
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>>37715451
I dunno if you're being profound or not desu. Could you pretty please try to just spell it out? I like you, and I don't wanna think you're like Nick all messing with me and stuff.
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>>37715510
Ok, give me a second. I'm thirsty. And I am most definitely not messing around with you. I want you to not be tormented by unpleasant thoughts and emotions. I promise you.
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>>37706039
Is there a way to fix my social anxiety and social awkwardness? Every time i'm faced with social responsibility i fuck up and embarrass myself. I think it might just be confidence issues but my self esteem is gone with the wind.
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>>37715649
Thanks meta, I do feel like I can trust you but it's not easy...
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>>37715683
I understand, we both have trust issues as you know. It's just very difficult to know how to talk about the realization I'm hinting at or if it will even truly be helpful to you.

So you'd like to have a big mission but you don't. This produces some negative thoughts and feelings, right? What I want is for you to be able to look at those without getting caught up in runaway anxiety by getting lost and feeding them.

If you take two people, one with an important mission and one without, what are the differences in what they feel when they aren't ruminating on thoughts about how important their mission is or how much they'd like to have value, respectively? Presumably, things still taste the same for each of them, colors look the same, mountains are beautiful, etc. If you can get to this state of being present and identifying yourself a being your awareness rather than your thoughts, you might find some peace from these troubling estimations of worth since you know in that moment that they make no difference.
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We said we'd do a reading of Lolita on vocaroo. Anyone want to hear?
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>>37715900
I'll listen. I haven't heard your voice in a while. Not to be a temptress, but I'm drinking early tonight.
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>>37715998
Your wish is our command, mon cher~
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jJ6AghPzsr
Try it if you dare
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>>37716255
What did I just listen to?
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>>37716384
The opening of the Nabokov novel 'Lolita'. Your thoughts?
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>>37716428
Never read it before, but your voice adds a certain level of intensity to it
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>>37716607
Could you suggest sth else? We don't wanna be stuck on it
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>>37716652
Read something from the Necrophilia Variations by Supervert! I'll pdf you if necessary.
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>>37716607
Read it immediately! I'm going to reread it soon if I can actually concentrate for one fucking second.
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>>37716679
Pls mimme a link and tell m,e what to do??
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>>37716710
If I get the chance. I haven't gotten to sit and read in forever.
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>>37716714
http://supervert.com/necrophilia_variations/necrophilia-variations-by-supervert.pdf
The beginning is always a fine place to start. You're going to love it.
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>>37706039
I'll never have a girlfriend and I am 100% worthless without one and I just feel awful
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>>37716788
>http://supervert.com/necrophilia_variations/necrophilia-variations-by-supervert.pdf
If I read it will ya lissen? Who shd reed it?
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>>37716986
I'll listen
>>37716788
Why would a woman's attention validate you?
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>>37716986
Of course I'll listen. I think maybe the material is well-suited to our furry friend, but wouldn't ask for him to come out for this. Though as long as that's all he'll be doing, it may be fine, right? I just find the book entertaining and think you could do it justice.
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>>37717142
Ok so gimme a sth to read yeah? ~Cos I can read whatever!?
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>>37717229
Hmm not sure so? Refaranse a passage and like a context?
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>>37717247
Whats a sth? I'm terrible with abbreviations.
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>>37717307
Pls tell us who, specifically you want to hear from?
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I'm "one of those"

And im actually pretty content with it. Though i find myself unhappy with the world most of the time because of it, its frustrating.
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>>37717391
I'm originally not sure what you mean.
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reminder that RPGing is not a sport
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I have bipolar disorder and it seems that whenever things are going extremely well, it means things are about to take a turn for the worst. This is something that is actually characteristic of bipolar disorder and it's fucking infuriating. Why can't good things just be good things
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>>37718441
>Why can't good things just be good things
Because lawyers and fine print.
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