Why isn't "Basic Income Guarantee" a thing?

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Just come to europe and live off welfare

we have basic gibs no matter what

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>Why isn't "Basic Income Guarantee" a thing?
Because useless people should fucking starve. I don't pay five figures in income tax so your fat useless mentally ill faggot ass can sit around all day pissing in bottles and fapping to futa.

>>37691438
Because politicians are dum-dums. Also, leave rich and medium-wealthy people out of BIG. They don't need extra money and the state will save some.

>>37691605
What countries? Asking for a friend and science.

>>37691735
#rude

>>37691789
pretty much any EU country

not so much eastern europe though

>>37691735
I thought you said six figures in income tax and i was about to call you a richboi, but then I realized it was 5

>>37691438
idk but at least I get neetbux

>>37691789
it's actually a thing in France

Spoiler: it's not a good thing

>more and more people being born
>more and more jobs phased out to automation

but useless people need to starve, so, if you lose your job to automation, you become useless, therefore you must starve.
>muh desk job!!!
>muh taxes!

>>37691836
>Spoiler: it's not a good thing
That's just because France is full of niggers.

>>37691870
>>but useless people need to starve

They won't starve. They will join criminal street gangs, join ISIS, rob, steal, etc. You can't just starve out the poor, that's some libertarian fantasy.

Better to give UBI plus free birth control. And really push that birth control to the poor, that's the key.

>>37691870
You're supposed to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, didn't you know? :)

>begs daddy govt for coal and manufacturing jobs back

>>37691976
How about UBI in exchange for sterilization?

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>>37691735

You already indirectly subsidize rich people who live off of capital gains, why not subsidize the rest of society too?

Also believe it or not, everyone's job will be at risk in a few decades. Even yours.You know a UBI is given to EVERYONE, right? Not just poor people? As mentioned above, you subsidize rich people indirectly, and then pay for the following directly already:

>VA
>Indian Affairs
>Medicaid
>SNAP
>TANF
>The military
>congress
>every federal agency
>all of your state agencies


Wouldn't you like to actually get something in return for once? I really don't understand people who think they're immune from bad fortune or economic displacement.

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>>37692025

A great idea, but it would be panned by the left and right as evil.

I don't think there's much worse than bringing a new human into the world just to suffer, but that's a minority opinion in the extreme. Sterilizing shitty to-be parents is a service to humanity, and honestly about as ethical as it gets.

It's also very logical. Children are unbelievably expensive for the welfare state, for a number of reasons, and even with all that's expended for them, they still tend to have a very hard time without a good family structure.

I think we should be automating everything as quickly as we can, discouraging childbearing, and sterilizing the proletariat (myself included). I think this would be best for all of society, individually and whole.

>>37691976

Not even all homeless people want to commit a crime just so they can stay in prison during bad weather. Having a criminal record is super bad.

>But but muh corporate welfare! Capitalism can't dictate the job market!

>Oh yeah...fuck poor people. Get some bootstraps Tyrone!

how do we improve BASIC INCOME?

>>37691735
ure a big bait.

>>37691438
It'll happen eventually. It only takes one fast food restaurant replacing most of their staff with robots to make all of them do it in order to compete.

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>>37692383
Not really. Employers and women actively prefer criminals because they aren't afraid to take risks.

>>37691438
Because you're not giving your money to people

>>37691438
I believe my country (Finland) is experimenting with some kind of Basic Income thing, IDK, some people are in this "experiment" and Kela pays them this basic income shit, I dont really know I havent looked that much into it

>>37691438
because luckily there aren't enough voters dumb enough to think its economically viable.

>>37691438
why would we give money to useless humans who are gonna spend it on video games and anime action figures

>>37691789
>basic income
>not actually guaranteed for everybody

hello retard

>>37693183
this nigga went full fucking retard

i have not seen a post this stupid in a long time

Its going to be interesting to see what happens when a lot of jobs dont exist anymore in 20-30 years because of automation

>>37691438
because it's better for one million people who deserve assistance to suffer than to accidentally provide help to one person who doesn't deserve it

>>37691438
It will be within 30 years.

The essential plan of the global elite isn't to steal your identity or any of that, it's to make it so all identities, incomes, your sense of what is attractive etc, is all packaged into capitalist product, not for the sake of profit, but the sake of universal accessibility, like a self perpetuating system of exchange on all levels of existence, to ensure the survival of the race to higher levels of abstraction, then those things will become packaged as well, driving the direction of everyone. Your pocket money is just essentially your wheel grease for your cog and they just want you to turn that cog now and again in unison with everyone else, nothing more.

Is it good or bad? Who's to say.

Automation is inevitable and really important, too and it should not be resisted.

>>37693183
Tell that to my parents, they both have old felonies and are basically limited to shitty minimum wage jobs, and its even hard for them to get hired at THOSE jobs.

>>37691438
It should when the robots take over and we have nothing to do for an occupation they'll change their tune the country is beyond fucked where the national debt is concerned anyway you could make all the billionaires on earth penniless and I doubt the debt would be fully erased

>>37694283
> because of automation
> just learn how to program bro

With basic income people no longer spend half their paycheck on gas/public transport :)

>>37694697
One programmer can eliminate 1000 jobs. Where do the other 999 people go?

Basic income is like $500-$1000, right?

People receiving Basic Income will still need to work. The money is enough for necessities, but you still need a job to pay for rent/mortgage/utility/phone/cable/internet/insurance/clothes/maintenance.

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DONT
WANNA
FUCKIN
WORK

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>Everyone has 25% more money coming in
>Businesses raise their prices by 25%

Lrn2economics

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>>37693216

Finland is giving out free money? We're on our way, kuffar.

>>37697032
>business B keeps their prices the same
>everyone buys everything from them
learn to capitalism

>>37691438
Reminder that communists are closer to animals than people and should be exterminated

>>37697032
No, everyone doesn't have 25% more money anon. You clearly don't understand what a universal income suggests.

a homeless man is given $2000 / month, and a rich man is given $2000 / month. This might make the homeless man 100% richer, but might not even be a blip on the rich man's economic radar.

Prices won't change much, and if properly planned inflation shouldn't happen at all, this is simply another form of income redistribution to form a safety net for the poor.

If implemented it would probably take the place of current safety nets and welfare systems.

Why would social security be needed if everyone is given what they need to live? Why would other forms of welfare be needed if you are guaranteed the minimum amount necessary to survive?

Intuitively this should lower productivity but research shows that the opposite is true - when living expenses are no longer a concern, people are free to work to improve their lives, not to put food on the table. This is necessary in a world where the very nature of work is changing - we won't need people to drive shit around and check things out for us much longer.

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>>37691438
you should die in the street if you can't provide something for society and survive like the rest of us. Begone weakling.

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>>37691438
only blacks get gibs

>>37697209
or i can keep my money and your worthless ass can die somewhere outside my property

Remove the minimum wage and have a NIT.

>>37697237
so you suggest we just kill the poor then?

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>>37691438
>Just enough to quite them down, but not enough to make a difference
It's the same reason we don't feed animals because it makes them violent against humans

>>37697284
Live and let die, don't touch my shit and i won't kill you
>inb4 not working for me to leech off is the same as an active use of force

Because people would just settle for that and not work.

Because it will just be leeched by subhumans when they'd normally improve or starve and invite mass useless inmigration.
Remove anyone with an iq <100 and maybe it will work

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>>37697284
If they don't provide anything to society why not? No need to have people sucking on the government's teat while they're just dead weight.

>>37697380
>>37697433

This. It's the very model of unsustainable. Low IQ people who think of children as speeding tickets for having sex with have throngs of children and eventually break the system.

>tax machines

>>37691605
Is this possible in America too?

>>37691735
>Makers and innovators are rewarded more than the basic minimum for their hard work
>They don't have to hear about people dying in the streets and the violence associated with being able to survive

Are you implying we have a use for useless scum in the first place, even if they change? They are, at best, neutral when they don't die and steal and create a story for a 24 hour news cycle.

Go ahead and ask me about where the money is going to come from. I'm gonna fuck off somewhere else.

>>37691735
>Congrats You've Destroyed Civilization
Meanwhile (((capitalism))) had no hand in that destruction.

>>37697284
if you're a neet at 25, its safe to assume you're worthless and therefore can be knocked off

>>37691438
>Why isn't "Basic Income Guarantee" a thing?
Because it's very expensive and gives inferior results to a job guarantee.