Are INTPs the worst people in existsance

>>37671419
whats your view of an 'INTP' ?

>>37671419
Yea. Technology is degenerate. We'd be better off without it.

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>>37671419
No that would be INFPs We literally serve no purpose to anybody
We're also the the most likely to kill ourselves

>>37672580
An INFP girl broke the heart of me and so many others. I hope she really does kill herself.

>>37671419
No, that would be INFJs.

>>37671419
INTP Master race reporting in and all I can say is that being an INTP is the worst thing in existence.

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>>37671419
>Are INTPs the worst people in existsance
Then you dont even know what fate of ENTP-Ts is. Seriously, I should've been put in psychward already, but the remainings of social skills allow me to continue drowning deeper and deeper into the pit.
Its REALLY unpleasant.

>>37672580
>We're also the the most likely to kill ourselves
Soure? I believe it, just want confirmation

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>>37673042
INFJ here. Explain yourself.

>>37673080
INTP, can confirm.

I want an end from this ride every fucking cursed day of my life.

>>37671419
Nah, you guys are pretty cool.
INFP on the other hand...
World would be a better place without us

>>37671419
Couldn't tell you. ENTP-D here.

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>>37673103
>Seriously, I should've been put in psychward already
Jesus Christ, I have the feeling that ENTPs are the type that most commonly rocks the "I'm a le edgy sociopath" memes. Just because a fanmade MBTI infographic told you the Joker would be ENTP doesn't mean you have to act like a cringy thirteen year old.

>>37673210
ENTP-D? ENTP-Durbulendd :DDDDD?

>>37673134
>whiny, grudgey, pretentious faggots
>act like they're some kind of saints when they're no better than anybody else
yeah, fuck INFJs

>>37673299
What makes you think INFJs hold grudges for a long time?

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>>37673299
Not the anon you replied to but I am a pretty jaded INFJ, I went the other way with it and not into SJW bullshit, I came to realize this more or less just makes me an even bigger asshole than a naive but well-intentioned tumblrina

I thought everyone agreed INTJs were the worst because they're angry, pretentious autists

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>all these intuitive brainlets in here

The worst people in existence are the ones that believe this test means anything. It's just a modern version of astrology bullshit.

>>37671419

> Being INFP
> Easy to trigger
> very superficial
> "feelings"
> "poetic"
> friendly but asocial at the same time
> got no one to blame but myself

Being INFP is shit, every other INFP i know male or female has this features.

Atleast you INTP's can use logic in a natural way.

>>37673445
INFPs are a bunch of irrational brainlets so controlled by their emotions that they have no room for logical thought. INFJs aren't nearly as bad, are they?

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>>37672580
>We're also the the most likely to kill ourselves

I'm not surprised. INTP probably think way more about suicide instead of actually doing it - or anything, really.

>>37673397

Brutus, aren't you too trying to divide people into several Personnality Type, those who are imposing meaning on the world and those who tries to find one?

> Believing and Enligthening, the 2 new Functions
> Who tips his Fedora, here?
> INTP-E masterace reporting

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>>37673512
INFJ here. I want to fuck her.

>>37673591
Serval?

>>37673603
Oui, mon amie.

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>>37673591
>tfw can't jerk off to Friends at all

>>37673241
ENTP's are the type of normies who like to pretend to have mental illness because they think its 'cool' and that they'll fit in. They love to act as edgy as possible too.

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>Most laid back and childlike people
>Worst
Sorry INFP, you were one letter of being us.
:thinking:

>>37671419
Shut up low iq subhuman
One day you'll hang

>>37673703
99% of them most likely just didn't grow out of their edgy phase and are mentally stuck in high school, so they still think acting like the mysterious kid that sits all alone is something people find desirable in a person. That overlaps with a lot of INTP's and INTJ's behaviour, though. NTs seem to be the 2edgy4U gang.

>>37673716
>implying me being laid back is bad
>i just do what I feel
>feel positive things
>good things happen work hard on stuff I want to progress in
>sometimes feel apathetic
>don't show it though think it a lot
>do what I believe is the right thing
>get stuck in my head a lot when I think
>thoughts are rushing through my head
>sometimes sleep a lot but somehow work it into my schedule
>sometimes I don't get a lot of sleep
>shitpost at minimal amounts now
>sometimes I will go on a shitposting tirade
As an INFP I become an aggressive shitposter when I'm high as balls I can really feel the shitpost when I'm stoned but mostly I like to feel the groove of the shitpost and really let it settle in.

>>37673325
INFJ here.
I don't just hold grudges for a long time, I hold them forever.

>>37673822
me too, people are never sorry anyway when they've done something bad enough

>>37673744
can confirm. INTJ-A. I think im some protagonist prince-to-be when in reality im an avoidant sociopath that everyone got tired of putting up with

t. 26 y/o failed normie

>>37673822
that's retarded you probably have several sticks up your ass and a couple of dicks in your mouth as your viewing this (you)

>tfw i share a personality type with animatedjames
Fuck this i have to change myself

>>37673797
I was referring to us INTPs as being laid back. INFPs are self centered, and you are child-like like us but in the term of having poor emotion control.

>>37672580
why don't we serve a purpose to anybody?

>>37671419
INTP here.

Yes they are.

>>37673857
Videogames and current popular culture ruined this whole fucking generation. I've heard this "thinking of oneself as protagonist" a thousand times now and I have the feeling that this is one major part of robots being the way they are. Normalfags might think similarly but escalated in a different direction, instead of being literal failures because they escape reality through power fantasies they are pathetic hedonists that act like people in a college movie.

>>37671419
Anybody with E or F needs to be gassed, ISTP master-race

>>37673961
ENFJ here. Why do Feeling types need to be gassed?

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>>37673961
>t. sensor brainlet
You won't get any sympathy here, loser.

>>37673898
INFPs are not self centered people

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>>37673573
>instead of actually doing it - or anything, really.
stop

>>37673744
>NTs seem to be the 2edgy4u gang

Kekismus. It's all bark no bite though.

Except for xNTJs who can range from nerdy edgy to legit criminal

>>37673716
>laid back and childlike
t. not an INTP

>>37674048
INTJ-A here.

caused a car crash and left the scene because i was drunk. got away.

somebody stop me.

>>37671419
INTP standing by
I love being me but let's admit it, this is not what humans were supposed to be like
I'm fine with being out of the genepool

>>37674092
>>37674048
INTJ-A here. Was sitting in the backseat of my friend's car on our way to a drug dealer on my side of town years ago in the middle of a storm, friend asks me which way to go at a fork in the road, I told him the more dangerous one because I knew how he speeds, I knew how dangerous some of the turns were, and I thought crashing would be more fun.

He totaled his car and as of two days ago he still blames himself

I got him to pose for a photo with the car at the scene of the accident too. I misplaced it

>>37674004
Yes they are, m8

>>37674048
INTJ-A here, told mummy I wanted tendies not nuggies and threw the plate in her face. Don't think any of you INTPs can surpass the likes of my criminal mastermind.

I can stomach most people as long as they're not fucking F. It's awful to propose a hypothetical situation and be interrupted because "you shouldn't say mean things anon poor kid how could you even think that omg"
just
fuck
F

>>37674187
fuckin solid m8

ENTP here.

You INTPs are great. You just need to apply yourself more. Keep yourself active and don't let your brain wallow in stagnation. That Ti is a powerhouse, and often I wish I could ultimately think as flawlessly and effectively as you.

Also INFPs are absolute QTs too good for this world. You also need to apply yourself and not let the shallow world make you feel as if your values aren't worth something. Learn to trust in your feelings and let them take you where you want and don't give a fuck about some shallow ass culture of dickwads trying to bring you down. You are beautiful creatures and I wish I could make a commune for all of you to hang out at and just be innocent and pure.

As for the ENTP hate, ya'll some faggots. A good lot of us end up being open minded optimists with the added benefit of being real fucking good at Math. Everything interests me and I think everything has a place in this gigantic, chaotic ass universe which has been a nice home the last couple decades.

>>37674187
>He totaled his car and as of two days ago he still blames himself
>because I knew how he speeds
Totally his fault for being a cunt

>>37674246
>ENTP here.
fuck off normalnigger

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>>37674231
I'm an INFJ. Apologize.

>>37674231
That's a huge simplification that doesn't apply to a lot of Feelers especially not the ones I know. I also don't associate with shitty people on general principal, so there's that.

>>37674276
You're kind are insufferable and you're not a girl

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>>37674246
>everything has a place in this gigantic, chaotic ass universe which has been a nice home the last couple decades
>"lmao, I'm like a disciple of chaos dude. We ENTPs are just so random and love chaos. Dude, also praise kek, amirite"
Let me guess, you'd describe yourself as intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor. You should kys yourself, m80.

>>37674004
You're in denial lmao.

>>37674343
who are you quoting nigger
oreganol

>>37674246
I'm an INFJ that has dated two INFPs. They are ridiculously emotional and unpredictable creatures. They're the type who can want marriage one day, then the next they drop their pencil on the floor and that leads to a chain reaction in their mind which ends with them suddenly realizing they were never in love with you after all and leaving you. They are secretive, stubborn animals completely ruled by emotion, and basically just consist of every feminine quality taken to extreme levels.

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It's another , "people take this fun horoscope tier test" too seriously thread.

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>>37674391
It's called shitposting, I thought you ENTP autists could at least handle mild bantz. Seems like I've been mistaken. smdh tbqh famalamadingdong.

Pretty much. I hate all humanity and existence, I believe that one day humans will be wiped out by some sort of machine based race and it'll be for the better.

>>37674430
>ENTP
I'm INTP you double nigger

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>>37674440
Real life isn't some gay video game you retard. Singularity LARPing is almost as funny as the le ebin race war delusions the people over at /pol/ love to have.

>>37674446
Even worse desu desu fampai. INTPs are just unshaven ENTPs that smell like sweat and dried cum.

>>37674343
Nah. I'm not 17 anymore.

Maybe you'll meet some more people and broaden your horizons in college. Or maybe you'll spend the rest of your life being narrow minded and unnecessarily callous to strangers to make up for your lack of ability.

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>>37674495
its true
your comment was not original

>>37673080
Literally hell, I'm already descending into insanity and losing touch with reality.

>>37674416
This. I can't believe how many threads there are about these "tests".

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>>37673080
>>37674581
brothers
who here reading pic related

>>37674343
>all these memes

Go outside.

>>37674356
>>37674194
>implying
I once helped my drug dealer move stuff in his garage for hours just cause he came in through with the new hook up we're now friends he invites me over for video game night every now and then or provides a bit of the hook up when I buy

>>37674556
Aaaaaww, did I hit a sore spot? How old are you now? 18? I mean, you sure know a lot about life. You're right, college, the answer to every fucking question in the world. Le broadening my horizon, brb. You are a pathetic normalfag that doesn't even think of himself as that. You don't have any experience and you sure as hell are in no position to analyze people on here you fucking autist. So stop projecting and go back to sharing ironic suicide memes on facebook.

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>>37674611
>t. triggered ENTP brainlet
You're pathetic, sweetie.

>>37674276
I do not like you at all.
>>37674306
Yeah maybe it's just my environment being shitty as all hell, but I like insulting inferior people even if they're not that inferior

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>>37674556
>Meet anyone in college
>Broaden horizons

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>>37673703
>Jesus Christ, I have the feeling that ENTPs are the type that most commonly rocks the "I'm a le edgy sociopath" memes.
And I have a feeling that you're faggot. You seriously think all those ENTP-s from plebbit people are even remotely close to their desired type?
After all, I'm another failing person, and I came in place for the same outcasts as I am, instead of attentionwhoring normalfags on plebbit/Facejew/whatever. Does this make me edgy in your eyes? For Christ's sake...

>>37674469
Listen here, you little faggot. I want the planet to fucking burn in any way possibly, I don't care if it's a singularly or not, I just happen to be obcessed with actual technology and cybernetics. I'll be off making it happen while you sit around living the NEET lifestyle, thanks to my INTP nature.

>>37674629
Actually, I'd agree that college isn't necessary and there are other alternatives.

Then again, I don't think you can communicate in a style that doesn't involve mindlessly insulting strangers with a communication style that breaks down into an ugly, poorly stitched together stream of thought that is poorly articulated as evident by your inability to speak without mentioning meme after meme.

>le
>normalfag
>autist
>projecting
>facebook

Jesus, man. Think. Go get a job. Meet some people. Talk. Learn. Have conversations.

>>37674688
>unironically getting this butthurt over the fact that the four letters some online personality test assigned to you are being mocked
You know, I'm sure you're a great person despite being the shittiest type, anon. Just don't mention you're one of thse pathetic edgy reddit ENTPs around anyone. People probably will notice anyway because of the ENTP walk

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>>37674729
>lmao, you're not typing in an articulate and sophisticated manner on 4chan, how pathetic
I think you're gentleman mannerisms would be more welcome on feggit my man, I've heard they love people like you over there. Also, nice that you recycled your garbage "meet people and broaden your horizon" argument, really convinced me to get out, become normal and stay away from drugs and shit. Thanks based le anon.

>>37674804
Well, at least consider that a part of anonymity is it allows you to speak without a mask. As it turns out, the person behind the mask is a dick, and your belligerent behavior is going to drown you.

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>>37674713
You're really hardcore m8, I'm impressed. If I went to your school I'd definetely talk to you. You sound mysterious and interesting.

How do I go from ENTP to ENTJ

I feel my life would be a lot better as an ENTJ and I would have a lot less spaghetti

>>37674853
Try reading a shit ton of nazi/facist literature

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>>37674839
I'd rather drown in belligerent behaviour than in shit and pretentiousness, faggot.

>>37674872
Sure can do but how do i become more responsible and plan ahead?

>>37674853
Just suck the dick of your superior one or two times, that'll help. If you still don't turn that darn P into a J you could try to offer your boss to fuck you in the ass. That definetely helped me.

>>37673987
>not knowing ISTP is the exception

>>37674930
>not knowing that ISTP is the worst of the sensors

>>37674881
That's up to you. I came into the thread attempting to have a conversation about MBTI because it fancies my shits, and to compliment other types in hope that people would perhaps feel more at home in their own bodies and minds. I enjoy motivating others and keeping them from drowning in the bullshit you try to stagnate them in. You have been slinging nothing but insults this whole time. Not even good insults. Just some usual bullshit with no creativity.

Oh, who am I kidding. You are far beyond the capability of reflection. Have a nice life, anon.

ISTP master race here whattup

>>37674937
>they are the worst because i say so

>>37674853
You can't lel

ENTJ will forever cuck you

>>37674947
You're a pathetic little attention whore that desperately needs recognition and confirmation, so you come into thse crap threads that always go the same: people circlejerk about their type's benefits and some try to compliment others so they do the same in return. There is no good conversation to be had in these cancerous copy pasted threads. The only actual value people can get out of them is annoying little cunts like you by mocking them for taking this horoscope shit way too serious and thinking of themselves as psychology experts. I for one had fun, so thank you for that, m80pie.

>>37675039
You sound so damn desperate m90
t. bystander

>>37675056
I am, m100

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>>37673105
Sorry was watching E3
http://paulsohn.org/what-experts-will-never-tell-you-about-your-myers-briggs-personality-type/
>Among most likely to have suicidal thoughts in college
Also go to any MBTI thread and look at INFPs posts, it's alway self loathing. Oh, and the worlds most famous INFP is Pic related.
>>37673909
When's the last time you truly helped somebody out anon? Did you really? Are you sure?

>>37675039
And that's the real you. I hope you change and in the future won't have nothing but mean and hateful things to say about others.

>>37675039
This reply is almost as cringy as the edgelord faggots in the rest of the thread. Well done.

>>37675073
Huh. Suddenly my perspective on the INFP has changed a lot and for the worse. They can't be all that bad, can they? That Thom Yorke seems like a cool guy.. r-right?

>>37675073
That does not mean most likely to suicide, although I wouldn't be surprised if INFPs were most likely to kill themselves

>>37675155
Pretty much all "smart introvert" types are more unhappy and insecure than they're made out to be.

>>37675287
But then who is going to be my qt gf?

>>37671419
>literally just Saitama's face on a girl
That artist is such a fucking hack, holy shit, OPM didn't deserve its ridiculous success.

>>37672580
>>37673206
>>37673445
Have you ever considered that maybe it's the world who is wrong?

>>37673822
same.
and I don't like being like that.

>>37675326
If you're normalfag enough to lose respect for INFPs because of that article just get a normalfag girl

What's the personality of an INTP and INTJ like?

>>37675373
>I can't stop my feefees
>therefore, the world is wrong
Such an INFP thing to say

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>>37675155
There are some cool INFPs out there
>Edgar Allan Poe
>Bill Watterson
>George Orwell
>Shakespeare (Not so sure about this one, but it could be)
But then you also have people like
>Morrissey
>John Lennon
>J.K. Rowling
>Tim Burton
>Louis C.K.
>>37675287
No, it doesn't. If a more conclusive study were done though, you'd probably find it to be true.
>>37675326
Bjork

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>>37675586
>thinking of brilliant ways to make the world better, but never acting on them

>i'm just smart but lazy lolz.

let's hear some of your ideas

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>>37671419
Yes. We are. It's hard to even consider us people.
>constantly just thinking
>think of great ways to make our lives/the world better
>Never, and I fucking mean NEVER, act on/share those ideas
Fuck you, you're not getting the credit for what I thought of. But also, I don't want credit, so no one else gets to know.
>emotionless
Except for feeling depressed because I've done nothing with my life.
We're the worst at being people, because basically we're not.

How the fucking fuck is pic related accurate??

>>37675452
>INTP
>""smart"" but lazy autists

>INTJ
>edgy autists

>>37675073
I do mild favors for family members semi often. Not a whole lot outside of that because I rarely leave the house. Am terrible with helping through advice though most of the time, though there are a handful of times I managed half decent ones

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>>37675693
That's pretty rude, anon. I'm not an edgy person but I am pretty autistic.

>>37675582
>cool
you need to reconsider a lot of that list, buddy...

>>37675662 ahh, it double posted as 37675586, that's why.
As for you, >>37675639 please refer to my section on
>fuck you, you're not getting the credit for what I thought of
Fuck off faggor I'll d-do it... s-s-some b-day.

>>37671419
Ive been called a horrible person/asshole/jerk/problematic/spycho so many times i cant even remember how many times ive been called that stuff.
I gave up on human interaction.
I have two close friends in my city ive met through r9k and i will never work to expand my social circle further.
It helps the 3 of us are equally miserable people.
Human interaction is stressful confusing and often peoples emotion and greed for gains in their life cloud logical and moral judgement.
Not that im particularly moral myself, but hell no one enjoys being screwed over.

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>>37674898
rightwing literature encourages you to be more structured and responsible

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>>37675763
Perhaps cool was the wrong word, I should mean at-least less insufferable INFPs, like Morrissey or C.K. Also supposedly Lynch is an INFP, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

>>37675639
this, INTJ here with absolutely no motivation to work

>>37675900
I don't know how people manage to give a shit. In the end it all reads like propaganda.
So what if I give my kids a good example? So what if I defend my country? What the fuck for? I'm going to die in half a century. I am the most important thing in my life. Why bother working for someone else.
Clearly society can go on without me, seeing how no one really wants me.

>>37674853
Your type is fixed

Whatcyou really want to do is learn how to be the best ENTP you can be, which mainly revolves around learning discipline and social skills.

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Why am I still alive?

originello

>>37676263
cus you still need to answer why haven't you killed yourself

>>37676341
circular logic is the best kind of logic because it always works well

>>37674852
I have discord, if you're interested in listening to the ramblings of a sciencefag who hates humanity

>>37672665
INFJ broke mine and so many others. Also hope she ends it all that fucking roastie

>>37676032
You've got to be more ambitious. You're smart enough to not be some pathetic blurb on the timeline- all you've got to do is apply yourself. Believe in the power of the individual

>>37676450
I ask again.
To what end?
I really struggle with this. So far I've just done what is necessary to achieve stability: I get pushed into jobs by my parents, and saying yes represents less effort so I do it. Why should I be ambitious? To get more money? What for? To achieve power? I can keep this up forever.

I'm ISTP, what does it mean?

>>37676491
It's really all down to what you want. To what you really desire

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>>37675694
So you really haven't truly helped someone in a while? Or is there something you left out?

>>37675373
No, I'm just a whiny bitch and i know it. Nobody will ever truly love you like you love them

>>37676491
To change the world and impress your ideas onto everyone? To become influential and powerful, to get whatever you want? Still not interested? What about your family or kids? Don't you want them, your descendants to live peacefully forever after? Aren't you motivated to be the next Rothschild or Clinton or Kennedy family?

>>37676491
Think of all the people who will never be forgotten- particularly Karl Marx, and the specter of communism destroying the west today. Even indirectly, his publications will ensure he impacts everyone, even after death.

>>37676558
Ah yes, the good old "vocation" or "calling". I always wondered what made people "want" things. The world is a bunch of options for survival and none appeal to me the way they seem to appeal to others.
I don't really want to save people, or defend their rights, or teach them shit, or produce useful materials of any kind. All I see are different ways to obtain resources. Make me want things, please. It looks fun.
>To change the world and impress your ideas onto everyone?
what for
>To become influential and powerful, to get whatever you want?
I want to read and play games and I have that
>Still not interested? What about your family or kids? Don't you want them, your descendants to live peacefully forever after?
I'm not the only human and my genes aren't particularly good
>Aren't you motivated to be the next Rothschild or Clinton or Kennedy family?
what for? At best I'd be beneficial and get killed, and at worst it would be objectively better for me to die
It really doesn't matter if people remember my name after my death, I don't get anything out of that

>>37676641
I would not call that a "vocation" nor a "calling". And no one really pushes you to save people or defend their rights. The majority of people are really selfish (incluiding myself) and i don't want that shit either. I legit just focus on the things i like, such as reading or other hobbies (you name it). So i would say just do the things you like.

>>37676491
As an apex predator you represent the utmost investment of energy made by mother nature; an act made to expand life's real estate and dominion. This isn't a vacation, this life is a job. You didn't ask to be here, but you have no choice but to not want to die. All you have to do is follow your impulses-- if you're a failure, you'll either not breed, or you'll raise pathetic children that will either die, or not breed. This is just as valuable as if you hypothetically have an epiphany tomorrow and actualize into a person as ingenious and influential as Elon Musk. We all serve the function, regardless.
We're all manifestations of the function, regardless of how we feel.

You can have what you want, but you can't want what you want. Freedom is bullshit. You're hardwired. Whether or not God exists, he might as well, given how innately powerless the state of third dimensional existence is. We are not the masters of our own reality.

There is no convincing you into higher functioning if you are not capable of fathoming it. Your path is your own, and just as valuable a part of this experiment as everyone else's.

Kill yourself, or don't. Who's to say you're not literally biological organism anyway? There's no stopping this train.

>>37676857
Typos galore. Late night.
>who's to say you're not every biological organism anyway?

>>37676820
I don't need ambition to do that, and relating to the original point (rightwing literature) there's little point in trying to be structured when I don't need it.
You'd need structure if you want big things. I'm a desirelet, that's all there is to it.
>>37676857
Those functions are optional though. My instinct is to have orgasms. Nothing drives me to actually have kids and acknowledging that I'm not going to be the best at it is enough to decide others can go ahead and do it instead. You present a "swim or sink" scenario, but really, as long as I survive no instinct is powerful enough.
Here I am shitposting. If those instincts were that strong, I wouldn't be here. Call me special snowflake, it doesn't matter.
I don't mean to meme the thread into oblivion, it's just that every time people try to motivate me I can't help but see no point in any activity other than personal amusement.

>>37675693
What about ISTPs? What are they?

>>37676925
Those functions are optional? Stop your heart right now through sheer thought. Make your dick hard, and then soft, and then hard by manually directing the blood to your penis. Decide when to dream. Turn off REM sleep. Explain to us how you're managing your body's functionality. Turn off your sexuality. Be attracted to men, be attracted to women. Be attracted to nothing. Never want sex again. All of that at immediate will.

You can't do any of that because you're a fucking puppet of your genetics, your nature. You are nothing more than a tool to the billions of years of evolution that led to you, you're just a means to an end.

Free will is a fucking meme.

>>37676925
>my instinct is to have orgasms
>nothing drives me to have kids
That's literally the same thing.

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>>37671419
Holy shit they didn't say INFP, perhap - >>37672580
fuck.

>>37676925
idk m8 maybe you need a shoot of dopamine

>>37677011
Now you're going off the branches.
It's optional to fuck women. It's optional to work 40 hours a week.
My genetics force me to seek survival and be attracted to women. It's a tendency, not an absolute path. See? I'm "fighting my instincts" by sitting here and masturbating.
It doesn't matter what my instincts tell me because only the result matters, and I'm not producing any results. It doesn't matter what I want because I'm not "inevitably" doing it. Am I failing? Yes, absolutely. And the fact that I can even fail means there is an option.
>>37677032
Not really. I want orgasms, and I can have them by masturbating. I don't have the instinct to create a good home and be a good father: those are things you plan because you consciously want them.
As explained before, the very fact that you can fail means it's not an absolute. I'm being told I definitely want things. Why am I not acting on those desires? I'm being told I want kids. How is that related to greatness? Where's the instinct to achieve glory? Are you going to tell me I've been in denial my whole life? What do I gain from that? What instinct pushes me to not talk to women?

>>37674048
INTJ, reporting in
The worst of the worst gore videos are getting boring, send help

>>37677096
When it wears off I'll be back here. All paths lead here.

>>37675039
>m80pie
>crap

Woman

>>37674609
Noice, Breiviks manifest too .

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INTP is the best type. The worst type is probably xSFP or xSTJ. They arent inherently bad types but they have a really high percentage of dumb fucks.

>>37677047
Infps are the best tbqh, I don't know if we're all just too nice or if the other ones just less nice

>>37677120
What if you take life as a meme?
(Don't take it TOO serioulsy m8) I'll invite you a beer but distance :^(

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>Be INTP
>Never felt emotional attachment to anyone, including my family

I have to pretend to care about others or else they'll know I'm a monster.

>>37677246
>tfw gotta fake laugh and fake smile all the fucking time for people to even be able to somewhat relate to me

well at least when it's laughing time I can laugh all I want

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>>37677221
Way ahead of ya, mate. Personal amusement is the only thing that works for me. I just argue because people often think their systems of value are universal and I want to explain to them why "how can you not give a shit" isn't a valid form of motivation for some of us.
>>37677246
>tfw years of emotional training
>tfw automatically cry watching sad movies because you analyze the scene and conclude it is indeed sad
>tfw you realize you don't actually care

INTP here.

>get 35 on the ACT
>graduate high school with a 2.63 cumulative GPA

Smart but lazy, am I right?

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>>37676948
>ISTP
>the cool guy who nobody knows, actually semi-autistic, probably into guns/mma/war

>>37677098
You're allowing your narcissism to blind you. You did not will yourself into this world, so stop acting like it.
>muh personal amusement is all that matters!!!
You're just a puppet. It's "optional" to fuck women. It is not optional to want to fuck women. You are programmed to. It's "optional" to work 40 hour weeks. It is not optional to want to work 40 hour weeks. It is not optional to believe whether or not it is a rational course of action. The people that take up such a path will be groomed by their environments to believe the pragmatism of said endeavor will ultimately culminate in advantageous results, as a result of their involvement and upbringing in their community's impeding culture.
>argues that masturbation is proof of his superiority
Google "Bonobos". They're one of many primates that regularly masturbates. That is not proof of your autonomy, or self-perceived godliness.
You are not one of one. You are one of billions, derived of countless ancestors that all led the way to your present state. Your fears and behaviors are culminations of your genetic predispositions interacting with your environment.

>your orgasm argument
This is retarded because orgasms are a function of your mating instinct. You masturbate to women because you're dreaming of mating and implanting them with your seed. That is the entirety of your job immediately-- however, upon hypothetically learning that she is carrying your child, I'd bet money that you would either be protective of your child, or loathe yourself for attempting to deny that instinct. These are the instincts that forged early human communities.

Look; the root of my argument is making you understand that your ego is simply an advanageous process meant to facilitate every single impulse that you have, that you have ever had, and that you ever will have. The sheer fact that you're an inefficient thermodynamic system that requires food, regardless of how "you" feel about it, is proof enough.

>>37677294
>tfw automatically cry watching sad movies because you analyze the scene and conclude it is indeed sad
haha, I do this but only when it comes to humor or "happy" stuff.

>>37677329
I never said I'm god. I never said I don't want to fuck women. I never said my heart works by my will either. I never said shit about free will. All of these are your sperging when confronting babby's first nihilist.
I simply asked what drives people to do things because I do not feel that thing, why I should be more ambitious, and why I'm not doing all that mating or even attempting to, since nature is pushing me to it.
Three simple questions.

>>37677328
holy shit this is literally me not even kidding

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>old roommate invites me to his huge normie birthday party
>didn't expect so many people
>cute short girl with glasses is all over the place
>also flirts with me
>takes my number
>invited me to a party on a lake boat tomorrow, 12 people
>I don't know anyone
>nobody knows me
>not sure how I managed to accidentally Chad myself into this situation
>not sure how to deal with the thing tomorrow
I'm taking notes from my INTJ friend and I'm going to utilize my anonymity to leverage the situation in my favor.
Still kinda scared though.

>>37677098
In understanding your inherent vulnerability and powerlessness, there lies truth. Everything you feel is the best your processing has managed with what it's been given. Your depression, your indifference, your jadedness-- you're applying social morality to their presence. You assume they're negative because of what other men and women say about them, which is only what they say because it's "popular to think so"-- or in other words, it's advantageous, due to the fact that such feelings do not facilitate the procession of society and breeding.

Your lack of impulse towards greatness is as valuable as feeling that impulse within the scheme of our species. You will either die an outlier and a failed attempt, a lesson-- or prevail, succeed-- breeding, and facilitating the species onward in a better direction. Both are equally valuable. Your occurrence is all that matters. Your solipsism are irrelevant and juvenile manifestations of your nature as it flings itself down the path; but being that you're SO powerless, you don't even know that you're not the one driving.

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>>37677328
thats me but im INTP

ever since im a small child i always liked anything war and destruction and the aftermaths

i thought all the other boys did but apparently not

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>Keep taking the MBTI Test
>Can never get the same result because I can't be honest with who I really am with myself
>On top of that I'm incredibly worried that I have no real personality, nothing ever feels truly right
Any other robots have this problem?

>>37677390
Nihilism?
This is the essence of hinduism/buddhism.

What drives people to do things? Their fucking nature.
And yes, you do feel that thing, because you're here posting, seeking engagement, maintaining presence in this thread to educate yourself on yourself. Your nature feels it to be an advantageous act.

You not "even attempting to mate" is negated by the fact that you masturbate. That is attempting to mate. An orgasm produces sperm, correct? Sperm used for what?

Masturbation is taking advantage of an age old process that primates were smart enough to take advantage of. When you cum, all your brain is registering is that you've done the deed. Your hand simulates a vagina.

You're so weak, and you don't even know it.

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>>37677450
Once again you rub it in my face that I'm powerless and pointlessly solipsist, when I never said I wasn't.
You have failed to address the main issue so far. Why should I do things? Your answer is "your mere existence does things", it seems.
So the original post
>rightwing literature encourages you to be more structured and responsible
turns out to be useless, just as I expected.
>Your lack of impulse towards greatness is as valuable as feeling that impulse within the scheme of our species
tl;dr it's fine for the INTP to keep being useless! And so, I win without using big boy words. Thanks for trying. Have a smug anime girl to stimulate your emotions.

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>INFJ
>mfw normies argue like children at a playground with over inflated egos

>>37677556
>What drives people to do things? Their fucking nature.
Just to continue pressing on. Why am I not doing the things? Do I have less nature? What makes me different? How do I acquire more nature?

>>37677586
Perhaps cus you're a fat fuck who can't even move?

>>37677615
Oh I got an ad hominem, how nice. More points for me. Still waiting for the other anon though.

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Lotta false-flagging INTPs pretending to be other types in this thread. This is why nobody likes you.

>>37677638
it's ok, as long as I have fun

>>37677634
So that validates that you're a fat fuck?

>>37677218
Every time I'm nice to someone I just imagine in the back of my mind they think I'm beta. I mean they aren't wrong but why the fuck is being nice associated with submission?

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What keeps my fellow INTPs going?

>>37677557
I'm mr. you're-powerless anon. I'm not the right-wing literature anon.

You claiming or not claiming to be solipsistic is irrelevant. All of your comments indicate an ego that is hampering your ability to understand how small you are in the scheme of a system much bigger than you. That is why I keep reiterating. Because you literally are incapable of understanding.

>Why should I do things?
You. Literally. Have. No. Choice.
You. Will. Do. Things. Regardless. Of. How. """"YOU"""". feel.
Fuck, man, just BEING is DOING things. Your literal presence on this planet influenced an unfathomable series of events in the lives of an unfathomable degree of people, because "you" is a single manifestation of an entire species. You're a fucking ant on the anthill, regardless of how you pathetically try to rationalize the ins and outs of your existence.

>>37677682
Giving any answer to that is disadvantageous. If I say yes, I become the joke. If I say no, I look like a fat fuck trying to cover up for being BTFO. If I am not actually fat, I can't prove it without posting proof and that will be seen as tryhard, taking me back to the joke.
>>37677703
Fun and memes, and nothing else

>>37674394
That's just BPD.

>>37677586
Shit, for all you know your idiocy here is helping me write a bestselling novel.

Human beings are cooperative. As long as you're not in the middle of nowhere from literal birth starving to death, you're contributing to the pack. And even in that case, mother nature is learning from that situation that said situation is a no-go. Life learns from death.

Are you afraid of spiders? Snakes? Why?
Because we used to fucking die from them.

>>37677741
They did both have BPD, actually. Is how I describe them not normal of INFPs?

>>37677714
At least you can see through provocations.
Not everything is lost anon

>>37677713
I'm going to sleep but I'll reply for the last time. You're giving me a lot of information I already have that is not applicable to the question of why I should bother trying to be more than I am. You keep giving me positive feedback on my being a lazy shit, because "you feel I have a big ego".
>You. Will. Do. Things. Regardless. Of. How. """"YOU"""". feel. Fuck, man, just BEING is DOING things.
It's good that you read and think a lot but you were unable to answer the question directly. Why did you even answer to me if you didn't want to answer my question? You've changed nothing, since my vision is similar to yours.
Your only use tonight was practice for my debating skills, until you veered off into your own - good, yet irrelevant - theories.
>>37677781
More "keep doing your thing man", ultimately feelgood sophistry. Nothing to push me to greatness. Useless.

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>>37677564
>be INFP
>want people to be happy but can't feel happiness yourself
>your altruistic nature makes you want to give people what you can't have because you know the torture of not feeling love or happiness
>every time you help someone achieve this they instantly discard you once you've served your purpose
>takes all satisfaction away from this act when you can't share in it
>slowly become bitter and jaded about how people are just greedy monsters looking to benefit only themselves or what clan they represent
>you realize alrtruism doesn't exist for the masses but they will drain you dry of it when they detect that kind of vulnerability
>complete shit down and attempt shutting out the world that is filed to the brim with these monsters
>never do anything because you know you're every action will be taken advantage of
>but not doing nice things for people slowly eats away at who you are and your whole being begins to atrophy
>feel yourself withering away, everyday a little piece of you breaks off and dies
>kill yourself because you realize this world and the people in it are just animals acting on instincts and vase desires causing them to destroy everything they touch, including you

This is the life of an INTP.

>>37677703
I wanna know everything

>>37677855
Sorry for the typos lads, I'm drunk to numb the pain of this shitty existence.

>>37677784
I don't think so. It's a personality disorder so it's definitionally not characteristic of "normal" varieties from any type. Also (in my experience) non-dysfunctional INFPs tend more toward "why do you hate me?" than "I never loved you".

BPD people are really fucking shitty though. Literally subhuman in terms of the interpersonal damage they cause and how frivolously they go about it. Sorry you ran into those people, man.

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>>37677703
Gardening, I finnaly feel like having a purpose now watching something grow. Plus, gave me an excuse to not get a job.

>>37677703
I will sideline everyone, get rich enough to have fuck you money, then do anything i want.

>>37677839
Wow you're retarded

I don't give a fuck about making you aspire to greatness. I don't give a fuck about you. I'm not your God. I merely told you why you are what you are, and why you will inevitably become a useless sack of unmotivated shit. It's what you are, you worthless pawn.

I hope I cuck you someday. Fucking faggot.

INTP here.

Who else thinks suicide is completely degenerate? The thought of throwing away your life like a faggot and never being born again is extremely brainlet.

>t. life is still absolute shit

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Stay strong INTPs

>>37674556
>broadening horizons in college.
You mean, drugs and socializing with new people, right?

Most colleges are soulless institutions stacked with intellectually dishonest professors to work the wheels of the degree mill.

>>37677839
>push me to greatness
lmao nigga, nothing anyone says can push you to greatness
motivation is a false god, you either want more for yourself or you don't. simple as that

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>>37678020
No need to suicide if it all going to burn anyway, might as well stay and enjoy the fire.

>>37675452
Strangely apt.
I'm 50/50 T/J too.

On the inside, I'm mostly useless pseudo-fedora scum, but try to hide my "power level."

>>37677699
Being nice is giving people what they want, because being mean is taking what you want. If you learn to get what you want for yourself and still provide you cure the beta without being a douche.

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>>37678071
That is weird, I play a lot of Heart Of Iron fantasizing as Mussolini

>>37677482
It's the same with me, I always wind up with some variant of INXX. I don't interact with other people enough to have a proper idea of what my personality even is though, if it's there.

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>>37671419
>Following a pseudoscience personality test on the internet.
>Valuing said test, and using it to hate people with bullshit vague results

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>>37678020
>too brainlet to conceive of the atoms that make up yourself once again being arranged into organic life after an in incomprehensible amount of time

Sorry to tell you a son but if you can't even pereceive existence beyond your incredibly short flash of meaningless existence within infintisimal time you're the brainlet here. There is life after death one way or another. It just might take time that you can't even begin to fathom.

>>37677839
Let's say you found that motivation to push yourself to greatness. Good. Since you said.
>"Why am I not doing the things?". Then how r u going to use that "motivation"? Since u r a desirelet

>>37677451
INTP/J checking in.

I actively hope for a SHTF destructuring of society scenario.
Not because I worship war or death or find it necessarily fascinating.
I don't hate the modern world, or people. It's the culture.
It's an endless chain of indulgences that faces you all day, every day.
The degeneracy and weakness and stupidity that we just shrug off.

>>37677855
Yes brobot

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>>37678071
I was there for this thread too.
Now re reading this it really hits me how, line for line, word for word, this post is absolutely correct.
Except for feeling guilty for wanting to die, why the hell would i feel guilty?
The anon must have been a spyche major or some such shit.

>tfw im content with my part time min wage job and monthly government neetbux check
>tfw i became a dude weed lmao and became addicted to cannabis
>tfw nothing in this life will matter and the idealized life i thought about as a child never existed

>>37678261
>conscience is kept and magically transferred to different beings
There is no answer to this question and there never will be

>meaningless existence
How can you prove this life as meaningless? What if one must die of natural causes in order to be reincarnated? I would surely be living in order to live on then, no?

>>37678329
I feel you. A surrealistic happening would be absolutely fantastic.

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>>37678329
Same here, I volunteer at the D.C pride parade and condoms was giving out like beads.

>>37672580
Can confirm
I hurt everyone I love

>>37673042
They're insufferable

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I know it's supposed to be impossible for types to change, but does that apply to the I/E spectrum too? Like it doesn't seem like it should be impossible for an ENFJ five year old to grow up to become an INFJ with enough abuse and social isolation.

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>>37678556
Once again, INFJ here.
Explain! Yourself! Now!

>>37678336
Thanks for the (you), it's comforting to know I'm not alone in this as I drift off to drunken sleep once again.

>>37678671
Stop voting to help niggers

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>>37672665
She knows what she did anon

>>37676411
Tell me about your INFJ, anon.

>>37671419
Everybody with E or F should be gassed. Just my humble opinion. Did you you know that Stalin was a famous ENFP?

>>37679848
Why do you hate Feeling types?

>>37675073
Well fuck. That explains my suicidal thoughts...

>>37679943
Feeling is code for Stoopid

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>>37680170
How can you say that...
I'm an INFJ... do you think I'm stupid?

>>37680185
Yes, and likely overly emotional to boot

>>37680212
Aren't INFJs supposed to be cold and distant?

>>37671419
I get INTP but I don't think it means anything. Fucking dumb, really. Doesn't take into account a lot of factors.

>INTP
>complete fucking autists lacking empathy that do nothing and once they're forced to interact with people are super unpleasant:
>are great at finding artistic hobbies tho and can be good specialists
>basically John from accounting, he's weird as fuck and everybody hates him but you know you profit from him so you tolerate the fuck

>ENTP
>same thing just extrovertet, comes to people but everybody still hates the way he is
>doomed to continuosly search social contact even tho he is truly not likeable

>INFP
>way too emotional and sensible, can fuck up that way
>will always do decisions based on their idealism that will lead to catastrophic outcomes ("muh refugees")
>otherwise really really nice people and it's nice to talk to them and befriend them and so on
>also really weak tho and easy to abuse so be careful and watch out for small signs or just go through everything you do to check if it *could* hurt them because it will

>ENFP (me)
>similar to INFP
>has been searching social contact all the time tho, lots of people (INTP and ENTP especially) don't like idealists and want to show them "reality", therefore most likely ends up getting disillusioned but cant get rid of their positivity
>therefore ends up being way stronger than INFPs and still with lots of empathy, also due to extraversion and strength way more capable to try and push for improvement and a better world, even without support of a group
>tends to be a fighter for the good, due to generally harsh childhood can end up slightly fucked tho
>examples: Che Guevara and Fidel Castro
>make an idealistic state & society with nice living conditions and all
>"REEEEEE you're not going to destroy my paradise"
>start jailing any opposition and even killing them

an ENFP that was raised to understand that there are limits to idealism in a sheltered way is probably the most likely to grow up the best


bonus:
>INFJ
>just read the fucking description

out of all four personalities listed I can say:

ENFP is best

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>>37680170
>>37680185
>>37680212
This is why INFPs kill themselves. We know our faults.

>>37673822
Why? Lifes too short for that shit. Better to just forget about someone vs keep hate.

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>>37680635
INFJs want justice and closure. I stop caring eventually, but it can take literally around a decade if I'm really hurt.

Ive took the test 4 times throughout my life and got INTP twice and INFP twice. ...

>>37677928
that's really neat(Neet lol). I heard that if you pee on your crops they will grow better, so i drank like 2Liters of Pepsi and then pee'd most of it back in the entire bottle, went downstairs to my mother to show her and tell her this amazing fact, so she could use my pee for the crops. However, she tells me i have to see a doctor instead. Kinda miffed

Truly the most autistic thing i've done lately

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>>37680480
infp and that your description is painfully true and hits close to home

>tfw everyone tries to manipulate your sympathy and benevolence for their own gain

>>37680739
kek, it's another "infp pretends they are the manipulated rather than the manipulator" episode

>>37677246
Have to keep acting interested when I could be staring at the ground instead

This is the most INFP video i've ever seen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4O__stUU2M

He's an obvious INFP, i didnt realize

>>37671419
What was wrong with me btw?

>>37680789
I gotta add that for no apparent reason INFPs tend to be abusive as fuck in the way they express their emotions because that's how you survive if you're weak otherwise, as it seems.

same goes for ENFPs in a lighter form, we have it under control tho

>>37675373

I sometimes think I've been born in the wrong world, but what the fuck can you do. It's not like I can jury rig a portal into the high-fantasy dimension.

>>37677959
(woke up)
I already knew that, it's why I don't do things. I don't get where you get all this smugness from. Do you really think you taught me something?
>>37678086
So you agree with me basically. At least read the chain.
>>37678264
Same shit, that's my point. Reading literature doesn't push me to greatness because I will still see no point.
Do people just not read ffs

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>>37678071
>most often than not trapped inside their own minds
I've been read like and open fucking book

>tfw INTP
>tfw you find your few autistic interests
>tfw can't enjoy any of them first-hand for various reasons
How do you deal with that feel bros?
>tfw you will die never having discovered something new to humanity

>>37671419
Yes. INTPs must all be killed.

>>37682142
t. buttmad INTJ
Sorry puppet"master" but I'm not dancing by your strings today.

>>37682164
>tfw no one can manipulate you because you don't even know what wanting is
I've had Stacies try to cajole me into doing shit with extremely obvious maneuvers like fluttering their eyes and showing cleavage. The look on their faces when I say no is priceless.

>Tested as INTP every time I took the test
>Illogically self conscious
Am I an INFP in denial?

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>tfw 95-100% on all letters in ISTP
Don't mind me just waiting for WW3 to start.

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Went from ESTP, to ENTP, and just took the test again and now I'm an ISTP-A
Huh.

No ISFJ-T bros in here?
How come?

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>>37675582
Do all INFP's love Bjork?

>>37680480
None of the those descriptions are accurate, you have a meme-tier understanding of MBTI which isn't surprising considering your type.

>>37678071
INTPs are true robots

>>37680480
>>will always do decisions based on their idealism that will lead to catastrophic outcomes ("muh refugees")
just completely wrong. I bet you also think all woman and homosexuals are ''muh refugees''.

>>37671419
No, people who eat this modern day horoscope shit up are.

>>37682080
>tfw can't enjoy any of them first-hand for various reasons
The reason this happens for me is because I get too competitive and try to rush through whatever it is. When this happens, I end up basing my value as a person with the results.. yeah its kinda strange desu.

>>37673391
KURDS WILL RISE%%%%%%

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Is ENTP really the worst type? I'm ENTP.

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>>37682031
I liked reading your posts and their replies. I'm glad someone could write out thoughts similar to mine so clearly.

Being an INTP is being too autistic to be normal and too addicted to dopamine and fear to be successful with your autism.
In the end you're to intelligent to get anywhere in life

>>37677858
This.

And also, create whatever ideas I come up with. (But will never finish any so I'll have to live forever)

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ISTP here, mbti is horoscope bullshit. You're all fellow autists, shut the fuck up, shitpost, do something productive, play vidya, watch a tvshow or movie, or listen to comfy music, stop talking about personality quizzes like how a bunch of normies would do on normiebook.

>>37684788
>shut the fuck up
>shitpost

how do i both

>>37676571
Yea I think it's been a bit outside of little favors. Part of that could be the fact that people don't talk to me and I usually wait to be approach. Personality type could be a factor though, I really don't know

>>37684788
>implying normies have not not amde this place their petting zoo where they gawk at us and judge us for their own shitty pleasure

>>37677703
I occasionally do drugs and feel human for a few hours

>>37684851
>implying observing you and the likes of you is pleasurable

>>37684823
Was more a list of activities you could pick and do at your leisure, not a list of all the activities you need to do at once.

>>37684919
then leave you normie fuck maybe /b/ is more your speed or maybe /soc/

>>37677310
I feel you as an Entp/Intp life is suffering

>>37681509
What kind of abusive? You have my curiosity

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>>37674142
>this is not what humans were supposed to be like

I never thought about it like this but damn.

This hit home and hard.

>>37672580
my two best friends online are INFPs...

>>37682257
Only subhumans fall for obvious flattery. Most people are stupid, and would fall for it. Not special to intps, just cunning people

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>>37671419
ain't so bad. i'm an cs student and i often go to job interviews to it companies cuz they give you free food at the interview. but i'm cucked now because one company actually accepted me and i dunno what to do. i just want to neet.

>>37684376
no I would love an ENTP gf

>>37686040
go for it my nigga, you dont wanna be a neet trust me.