MBTI / Personality Thread

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male, INTJ- 91% assertive

Prove to me that INTJ isnt the best personality type.

Protip: You can't

Post your type and how your "inner speech" relates to you as a person. Most people apparently can be in conflict with their inner speech, which is something I find very strange.

The inner speech of Si types seems to be revolving around what they "should be doing" and can motivate or depress them

I'm an INTJ and my inner speech is basically who I am, everything else is not important

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>>37648142
>INTJ standing alone in the corner like his favorite edgy lone wolf anime character

Accurate.

>>37648942
my inner speech is literally the narrator from kaiji. intj here

>>37648942
I'm INFP and unless I misunderstand inner speech is just thought, isn't it? I think in words, and those are my thoughts. There isn't another entity saying things to me, even if I insult myself it's me thinking it, not a disembodied mental voice.

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XNTJ is master race you can't deny this otherwise your a cuck

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>be born
>be INFP T

>>37648942
If you don't constantly trade bantz with your inner speech, you're a wussy NF.

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>>37648142
>be ENTP
>end up being addicted to shitposting on a chinese basketweaving imageboard
>can't stop

well fuck

>>37649005
>unless I misunderstand inner speech is just thought, isn't it?
Apparently. But it's so strange reading that some other people's thoughts are separate from "themselves"

If you like organizing and planning things ahead, but you don't follow the schedule, can you still be considered J?
I always get 50% at J and P

>>37649041
Maybe they have tulpas but don't realize it.

>>37649072
I guess its all to do with your functions so as long as you want to plan/organize and stuff, I guess you would be

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>>37649013
>be born
>be fucking INFJ-T

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>>37649013
>>37649192
>be born
>be IXXX-X and male

>>37649072
ExxJ? No.
IxxP or IxxJ? sure

Ni dom/aux users, can you describe it ?
I'm still trying to figure out what it would be like, as I'm still unsure of my type (INFJ/INFP)

>>37649779
INTJ here. My head is a fucking maze from which I cannot escape. I find myself daydreaming the majority of the time. I need to occupy myself with tasks that require concentration to not get lost in my own thoughts.

>>37649779
INTJ

Dont know how to describe it, other than often "just knowing what is likely/correct without having to conscious think about it"

Differentiating INFJ and INFP isn't that hard. Both will often be inexpressive outwards.
The INFP is like a little kid, meaning he sometimes shows his true inner feelings on the outside and will usually be "happy" when talking with others. He will care about his own morals and will go against the group with no problems when his morals are in conflict. Finding his "identity" is one of his life tasks, and he will always want to be true to himself. Basically like an ISFP but will think more about non-obvious and random things.

The INFJ is not very talkactive to others. He will often be able to fake emotions on the outside and will be a lot more concerned about keeping the "harmony" in the group of people he is with than about his own feelings/morals. Basically like an INTJ who is concerned a lot about group harmony and not so much about his ideas being factually correct.

>>37650057
Thanks for the explanation.
But I relate to both, following my mood. I don't trust my point of view as I'm heavely subject to the Barnum effect...
I'm trying to relate to the thinking more than the behaviors that comes from it.

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>>37648973
>INTP isn't even there, probably hiding out in autism cave
Accurate

>>37650019
I strongly relate to the daydreaming. But I like it, and I always trying to find time to get lost in my thoughts.
What are you daydreaming about ?

>>37648142
INTJ-A

i was basically a narcissistic, cold, calculating sociopath from 16-24 and then alienated and lost all my friends when they slowly came to realize who i was. still don't care and still think im better than everyone else

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>>37648973
>>37650213
Wait I'm dumb, I think the dude in the far right is INTP, didn't recognize him cause I'm used to seeing INTP as that scientist lady. Still pretty accurate, though.
>that awkward facial expression he's making as ESFJ tries to socialize with him

>>37650232
>fantasizing about being a hero in a fantasy world and going on adventures with a party of bros
>fantasizing about world domination and reshaping the world in my image
>fantasizing about having gf and living life happily together

The usual shit.

>>37648942
I don't have an inner speech, i don't think in words

t. intp

>>37650340
Cool, do you think in "logic"?

>>37648942
INTP, not entirely sure... I mean, I can't think without inner voice, so I just use it to solve whatever problem I'm currently having or to check it against what I know. It's like the link between my self and my brain, except I'm all three. The holy trinity of laziness.


But it lets me segue into what I was thinking about, even if the question itself is unrelated...
skip this if you want

I was thinking about the ways you can convey your thoughts a few days ago, and deduced that people have 4 different types of expression (this is nothing mindblowing, just a simple list, names pending):

>the true voice
these are your absolute inner thoughts, the absolute purest you. if someone were to hear them, they would cease to be your true voice, so others will by definition never know what they actually are. zero filter because you cannot filter them through anything

>the internet voice
what I'm using right now, the veil of anonymity that lets me express myself with minimal fear of social reprecussions. simple really
---
>the yourself voice
how you talk in the real world when you are 100% yourself. you have to filter yourself somewhat, but it seldom gets in way of what you truly want to say. you use this when talking with your very best friends

>and the polite voice
the heavily filtered, normie-friendly, inoffensive voice you use with people you just don't know that much

Now, finally, here is my question: I enjoy using the yourself voice. I don't enjoy using the polite voice. But there are so very few people I'm comfortable using my yourself voice with (4 in my entire life? e.g. my dad, but not the rest of my family). I think I would be much happier if I was able to use my yourself voice more, but am I correct? And how can I build the confidence to do so?

>>37650327
Isn't that guy supposed to be the ENTP?

>>37650468
>I think I would be much happier if I was able to use my yourself voice more, but am I correct? And how can I build the confidence to do so?
That problem is that you have to use your "polite" voice to not be seen as strange/ridiculed. Because most normies don't understand or want to even see what a person really is like, they fear everyone who's not like they perceive the "perfect" person to be, which ends in you being ridiculed/not accepted by most people.

The only solution is to find people who understand and like your true self, which are rare.

>>37648142
>get INFP on every test
>fit the description to a T
>or should I say....F?
>get it?

Fuck my life.

>>37650601
Great, now that you've read the description you can work on improving yourself in the areas that you realized you're lacking.

>>37648942
INTP
It seems like most of my inner speech is me explaining things to people in my imagination. Or mentally replying to 4chan posts. Or otherwise talking to people in my imagination. Basically 99% of the social interaction I do is imaginary.

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>tfw no ENTJ gf

Its a bad feel

>>37650710
Yeah, I do this too a lot. But also reflecting on and thinking about problems/possibilities that I consider interesting.
(INTJ)

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>>37650760
Haven't seen you around in a while. Thanks for reminding me of this feel.

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Sup is this good or bad niggas?

>>37650880

It means you're probably gay

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>>37650213
INTP here, currently hiding in my autism cave

>>37650880
>irl
Yes.

>on this board
No. Get ready for "NORMIE GET OUT".

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>>37650938
Dang it..i am kinda "gay" but i love everything about the sensuality of a woman

>>37650594
I get that, but why exactly am I chasing the approval of people I don't care about? If I just
>bee myself
then I'll have much bigger chance of finding people that will understand me. And normies do seem to appreciate 'weird people', even if their level of weirdness is 'quirky' or 'artist' at most

ah, the solutions I'll never act upon!

>>37650955
Never i love /r9k/ im a turbo lurker

>>37651008
>ah, the solutions I'll never act upon!
Right in the feels.

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Post your personality type and your desktop

INFP

>>37648142
Lurker here

INTP-A describes me on a very accurate level. It's like the perfect autismo personality.

>tfw same personality as non-brainlets like Einstein and Newton
>tfw no INTP gf

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>>37651100
I didn't know this was a desktop thread.

ENTP.

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INTP-A/-T, kinda good imo

>>37651100
>all that fucking clutter

What the fuck.

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>>37650525
Sorta looks like him, I think ENTP looks like this though, but in some pics they look almost exactly the same. You might be right though

>>37651008
>And normies do seem to appreciate 'weird people'
Not really. Example: Normies watch big bang theory to laugh about how weird the people are, but not for the reasons you'd find them weird for. While you'd likely be thinking about how the show is a very bad portray of "nerds", they would laugh at the jokes because "lol the nerd said something smart while being oblivious to the girl! What a nerd! Good that i'm not like them!"

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>>37651100
INTJ

Why the fuck do you store everything on the desktop? What's with the crapware and windows 10?

Oh well

>>37650353
i have no idea how i think, neither in words nor in images.
Maybe i'm just autistic

>>37651351
It's the easiest way to access the files because my download folder is so full.

I'm so used to it that I just keep doing it.

>>37650655
>improving area's that are lacking

retarded advice, he should be focussed on improving his natural strengths.

INTP.
My desktop image is too heavy and I am too lazy to compress it.

>>37651434
He should be focusing on getting good usage of his strengths, but also work on his shortcomings

>>37650057
>e will care about his own morals and will go against the group with no problems when his morals are in conflict
How can women even be INFP? They don't go against the group.

>>37651480
Because the group follows them, lel

INTP/INTJ
The last letter appears to change based on the test.

>>37651514
>women
>being leaders
Had a good chuckle

>>37651537
You seem to think that every woman follows xSFJ stereotypes

>>37651559
Women are herd creatures by nature.

>>37651591
And every man is either ESTP (Chad) or ISTJ (beta orbiter), right?

>>37651622
There are some minor variations in personality but most men are either alpha, beta, or omega.

>>37651652
And most women are xSFJ. Doesn't mean that INFPs are like them.

>>37651669
Fair enough. It'd sure be nice to meet one of them then.

>>37648142

I'm ISTP is that bad?
>INB4 BTFO normie
I'm from /k/

>>37651735
You were not meant for this world, brave warrior.

>>37651735
ISTP are true warrior robots

LOGICIAN (INTP-A)
hhszxc

>>37651735
>I'm from /k/
>ISTP

Checks out

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I suspect that MBTI is fake because it tells me I'm INFP but I can pretty much apply every single type to myself, there's a massive overlap, and I feel like it's just autistic horoscopes. Plus I'm a terrible douchebag, there's no way I'm a sympathetic INFP

Which type is the best type in men, and which is the best type in women/|?

>>37651824
I can't apply most of the types to myself. Take a better test than 16 normie memes.

>>37651735
>>37651780

/k/ = istp
/r9k/ = intp/infp
/sci/ = intj
/lit/ = infj
/pol/ = istj
/x/ = enfj
/int/ = entp
/biz/ = entj

hmm that's all i've got, feel free to complete/correct the list

>>37651928
/soc/ = estp/esfp

>>37651928
>>37651770
>>37651780
>>37651760
Thank you guys, but is there a meaning to this?
Really I know the site gives you some meme explanation, is there an /r9k/ version to this?

>>37651825
The best type for you depends on what type you are

Male types that have it easiest in society:
ESTP (Chad)
ESTJ
ENTJ (if not a lazy ahit)
ENTP (if he can calm his autism)

Females:
xSFJ
xSFP

>>37651928
/pol/ is more like a few intuitives baiting and tons of sensors biting and taking shit seriously, lel
/sci/ is mostly INTx
/diy/ is xSxP
/a/ and other animu boards are Ixxx

>>37651995
The real explanation is that you're someone who prefers logic to feelings and prefers physical activity to abstract logic

Means you're more interested in /k/ or /diy/ than e.g. /sci/ stuff, nothing more really

token ISFJ reporting in
slay me

>>37648942
INTJ, I always make fun of myself in my inner speech

>>37652135
Are you a female? That's a roastie type.

>>37649310
It's actually better to be I type if you're male as long as it's not unhealthy and you have good social skills. Believe it or not but extroversion is a ''female'' trait, females tend to be more extroverted. I assume you think Ixxx means you're shy and socially awkward?

>>37652253
fuck no i am not one

>>37652349
Are you gay then? Sounds like you got stuck with a female brain, sorry man.

>>37649310
Ixxx-A is alright, it's the IXXX-T's who get fucked over.

>>37648942
My inner speech is a sociopathic creep. Not sure if that makes sense

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>>37651100
ISTP here's my desktop in an original fashion

>>37650760
Dude no.

ENTJ women are lowkey autistic. Imagine an INTJ girl who can hide her power level.

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>>37648942
my inner speech is my worst enemy who says the most fucking retarded shit and I gotta come up with arguments against his retardation or else it torments me forever

i cant say this is a bad thing or else i wouldnt be me, but it's really crippling

maybe i just need a wife

>>37653274
What is your type? You sound kind of spergy.

>>37653365
INTP

serrtherth

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>>37648142
Does this make me a bad person

>>37653813
Not really, no MBTI type is "bad"

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i got infp-t again...........

>>37655129
It's okay anon, we're the best type!

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>>37651995
>Thank you guys, but is there a meaning to this?

ISTP means you are a loner/observer and action oriented. You like to learn about systems, machines, and skills that you can directly exploit in reality. You want to fix and "master" things, and you want others to rely on your expertise. You don't care much about theory and patterns, unless it directly helps you in some way or can be applied. Generally have a very cool exterior, smooth movements, plain appearance (comfy clothing), doesn't like telling others what to do/drama. You are more in tune with your body than INTPs or INTJs, so likely to work out, do martial arts, or participate in an activity that involves your body at some point. You a bit more in tune with the environment then INTx types and like to learn by example (other people fucking up or performing well). You also like to "disappear" more than other types i.e start skipping class, stop talking to people for no apparent reason, etc. ISTPs aren't very good at long term planning and it frustrates them, and thinking of possibilities can lead to negative thoughts. Because of this, they tend to think others may be manipulating them or talking shit about them. They are generally tough skinned, but will be easily insulted if you question their skill/competence in something. But much better at actually taking action and learning through experience. Doesn't like small talk and doesn't talk/write much, enjoys being honest and telling you how things actually are, very serious exterior but playful interior most of the time

>>37655569
*different person*
i am an intp who ( tries to act like / wants to think he is ) an istp but fails horribly

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What's your type's superpower?

I'm an INFP and can pretend to be sad ironically then actually start crying. Mocking pic related is how I awakened.

>>37648942
My inner speech is filled with comedic monologues of things that randomly pertain to the present moment, thoughts about the omniverse or how to better understand what is true theologically, and the occasional bout of depressive realization on what this planet is and how saturated it is in horror, pain, gluttony, greed, and perversion.

Half of my comedic inner monologue is to placate the latter elements of my inner dialogue

>>37655887
That's my secret, Cap, I'm always sad.

Gentle reminder, if you got INFP - t you're probably not an INFP, just a sad other type masking as an INFP

t. INFP - A

>>37648142
>INTJ sitting in the corner smiling like an autistic child
They're admitting INTJs are the most autistic, aren't they?

>>37651780
>mfw INTJ from /k/
I probably seem like a school shooter at gun shows. Also explains my milsurp autism.

>>37648142
*NT* alliance when?
We need to round up and gas all the F types

>>37656143
INTP here
what will gassing the F types accomplish?

>>37656060
I got 77% T and I always get INFP. I think I'm sad and unconfident (probably not a word) all the time because I grew to have mamy bad habits.

>>37656230
F types are causing all the problems in the world
They prefer short term bandaid solutions that just make the world worse over an effective solution

>>37651928
>/lit/ = infj
I do have a tendency to read a lot. Mainly science fiction, philosophy, psychology. ISTJs know what's up in today's world, though.

Got ISTP-A. I generally don't think about my inner speech, unless I'm planning what should I do next.

>>37656297
>-A
A's GET OUT
you actually cannot be a robot as an Assertive

>>37656326
What about INTP-A
I'm an autistic asshole

>>37656369
be thankful for not being an intp-t
intp-a is probably the best type out of all the types that differ by a single letter from intp-t (entp-t istp-t infp-t intj-t)

>>37656326
>>37656369
>>37656414
Pretty sure the -T and -A stuff is just some random bullshit added onto the 16personalities test. Not part of MBTI and barely worth mentioning

>>37656477
>Not part of MBTI
good thing that MBTI had no scientific worth to begin with
i honestly do thing that A/T is the trait that determines robotness the most

>>37651824
>Fi
>Sympathetic

It hinges on how you and you alone feel

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love it when biscuits go soft

>>37648942

I keep getting between INTJ/INTP/ISTP and the more disturbed I become the more inner monologues develop, until I start discussing with myself like a schiso, but I also talk alone because I'm lonely so that's just me being lonely exept I hardly want company anyway.

Anyone here like that? Who speaks to themselves like a fucking oriental moving picture character? I can't be the only who legit's do this as a habit...

>>37656820
It's ok i pace around my house talking a mile a min to myself. Just don't do it outside everyone will think you're normal enough

>>37656820
You might be an INTP. I'm an INFP and I do that very often. I go off on tangents aloud and excitedly make points and arguments even though it obvioualy doesn't work.

>>37656926
>Just don't do it outside everyone will think you're normal enough

About that...

>>37656927
I have to try not doing that in a conversation because people tend to leave me in the vacuum.

I'm pretty sure I'm somewhere on the autistic spectrum.

What nicknames you would give to the types to consisely describe them?

>infp: kid crying to himself
>enfp: kid screaming to his mom
>intp: directionless theorist autist
>entp: theorist who test it on himself
>intj: the madman with a plan
>entj: the absolute madman who actually follows through
>istp: the complete psycho who execute the "blowing things up" part of the plan flawlessly because he actually trained it to exaustion

Don't know nothing about other types tbqh

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>>37651100
INFJ - With the taskbar, too.

Jesus your desktop is a mess.

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>>37651100
INFP here.
>picname related

>>37649040
LINK ME PLZ.

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>>37651100
ENTP
Nice dubs, witnessed

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>>37658069
great taste anon

what type is haruhi? she is absolute perfection

>>37658128
Some claim her to be ENTP, but I think she's more like ENTJ
Thanks for that warm comment though.

>>37656060
Are you retarded? Extremely original question.

the bump to end all bumps

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>>37648142
Here's a pic for other ISTPs on here. I hope you guys like it.

>>37648942
My inner speech questions everything i think, see and know. I'm in a constant battle with everything i experience and ponder

>>37648142
>Take test.
>Get ISTJ.
>Read through it.
>Hold on I am nothing like this.
>Take test again, be more careful this time.
>Get ISTP.
>This is also not me.
>Find these test.
>Get ISTJ on 3 of them.
>Last one gives me ESTJ.
>None of these fit me.

What the fuck am I.

>>37651928
/his/ = INTP

>>37648942
ISTP
my inner speech is basically always 'this person was nice to you. why? how can you gain from this? are they going to get something out of you? you know you can't trust them. you know you're better on your own.'

it's actually painful sometimes.

>>37660242
lmao I'm the same. Every interaction is:

>that guy was kinda nice to me. what a cool guy
>why was he nice to me? I barely talk to him. does he even know my name?
>this asshole might be trying to manipulate me. he might be talking shit about me right now
>he's not that bad lol. what a cool guy

>*never talk to him again for no reason*

>>37648942
My inner speech is neutral most of the time, making small comments on things, or reminding me of past mistakes. When it isn't neutral, it's either making me long for the things I desire, or putting me down and letting me know of the futility of everything that I do.

>>37660242
lmao
this is depressingly accurate. I cant stop thinking that people are out to get me and that they have hidden agendas.
If I'm not 100% sure about something, if there's even that 1% chance of something going wrong I take every possibly outcome into consideration and I think and think and think and I cant stop and it fucking sucks.
I uncontrollably overthink every possible thing and it makes trusting people so god damn hard.
My girlfriend says she trusts me, says she loves me, says she wouldn't leave me, says she wants to take care of me. She hasn't done a single thing that would indicate otherwise and she was nothing but perfect to me, and yet I cant believe her. Because I cant know exactly whats going on in her head and cant be 100% sure I can never completely trust her, but I want to and it fucking sucks dick.

>>37660412
>>37660457
what types are you guys?

>>37660496
originally istp

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ISTP-0
100% thinking
holy hell

>>37660496
I'm ISTP as well

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>>37660576
>>37660742
crack up. feel like posting this meme now.

I recently had my friends get into this and test, and it's usually a challenge to influence. I'm INTP-A.
>sensitive friend training to be a special needs teacher, overreacts to any criticisms (she once baked a cake for a guy because he was mad she tried some of his food)
>INFP
>low emotional and general intelligence friend who's probably a closet trap, came dangerously close to being a redpiller
>INFP
>the only man who can control and influence my decisions and have me be OK with it, loved by everyone, kind
>INTJ
>guy I frequently butt heads with in terms of what's the best protocol for going about things
>INTP

I think I'm really lucky, but they can be so frustrating.

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>>37660412
>>37660242
>>37660457
Fuck I'm INTP and this is me, especially in high school. I was practically invisible, wasn't popular but I never did anything to stand out much and I didn't get bullied either. There was this bubbly popular girl in a few of my classes that would try to talk to me sometimes, always thought she was just making fun of me. She even invited me to eat lunch with her and her friends a few times and I actually went the first time, but after that whenever she asked me I'd just make up some excuse like I had to go help out one of my teachers with something. I still have that feeling of hating not being 100% sure of what's going on in someone else's head.

INTP aspie. I want discord friends but everybody is negative and wants to talk about politics and religion and sex.

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>>37648942
>Inner speech
ENTP, ahem.
"This seems boring, I dont want to be involved"
"Universe will end someday in any case, why would I do this unpleasant shit instead of entertaining myself?"
"Those guys have no sense of taste"
Basically my everyday thoughts. I also like analyzing some everyday phenomena with scientific approach. Also I have some worrying symptoms of ADHD, maladaptive daydreaming and avoidant disorder. Shit's sucks.

INTP-T

I have no idea whether this is good or bad. Someone help me.

>>37661501
lol u sound like a boring faggot

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>>37651100
INTP
origililioli

>>37661501
then what do you want to talk about? yourself? thats boring.

>>37661791
No I explicitly do not want to talk about myself, or you, in a personal way. I'm sorry that you think anything but those things would be boring.

>>37661817
we could talk about vidya and music anon

>>37661791
Well, I dont know if they would be, but if a person only wanted to talk about himself it would be likely that they aren't very interesting. And since you didnt answer my question: what are your interests? What do you want to talk about?

>>37661858
fuck i meant you >>37661817

ore.spt

>>37648942
INTP
I'm usually trading bantz with my inner voice. My inner voice also likes to harass me when I fuck something up

>>37661883
>>37648942
I'm INTP and have a weird banter with my inside voice. It's a type of humour that only makes sense within the context of my head.
>inner voice also like to harass me
It's not necessarily when I fuck something up, it's remembering past fuck ups that does it for me.
The primary interaction between me and my inside voice is the trading of ideas. I will do the stereotypical INTP thing, and just contemplate things.

>>37661951
I also do all of this. I'll make the most ridiculous stretches in my mind to make shitty jokes work and i just laugh to myself at them.

Any other ISTP's into martial arts? I have been doing knockdown karate for 7 years now.

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>be ISTP
>people say I don't act like a human
>at the same time people tell me to bee myself

INTP
>Crippling social anxiety
>Just want to build things and Vidya
>Depressed because humanity is going backwards

>>Be INTP - 63% Turbulent

Autism incarnate.

>>37648942
I used to find the concept of "inner speech" as in talking to yourself inside your head as utterly alien, I couldn't relate when characters in fiction I was watching or reading had inner monologues with themselves, and an inner voice. My "inner speech" used to be entirely wordless it was an instant knowing or understanding or something like that, without saying anything to myself, its the most difficult thing to explain and this isn't the first time I've tried to either.

I could comprehend something, or figure something out, come to a conclusion, form an opinion or plan something without discussing it inside my head to myself, it would just instantly be formulated and understood, without an inner monologue. There was no talking things over with myself inside my head, there was not much visualizing of things going on inside either if I wasnt actively trying to. For example- if I'm imagining some fantasy scenario and its going one way but I instantly think of some alternate route it can take, an alternate branch but I didn't think about it so much as it sort of intutively came to my mind and I understood and comprehended it entirely, it wasnt even visual - or not entirely, just a new concept/idea non-verbal and non-visual that came to mind and I can then later try to visualize or understand in depth and explore the new idea later.

Thats the only example I can think of right now and it took a lot of effort to write that down, because this is a downside I've noticed to this type of non-verbal thought, its difficult to write down in words what I'm thinking in my head because I don't often think with an inner monologue I can easily transcribe to speech and writing. This also gave me problems in school where if the teacher asked a question I would have a general idea of what I want to say or what the answer is but sometimes have trouble forming a coherent sentence out of it, I hated questions where you had to "explain how you got that answer" so much on tests

>>37658022
>being this new

Origc

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ENFP.

Smiling on the outside, dead on the inside.

>>37656701
Fi is about the individual which means people with Fi are usually better at sympathising with people one on one by placing themselves in their shoes. Fe is about the group which means people with Fe are usually better at thinking about how things will affect people by considering what that group of people are attuned to.

Essentially, Fi users are more empathetic while Fe users are more socially responsible.

>>37652254
>It's actually better to be I type if you're male as long as it's not unhealthy and you have good social skills
More successful people are extroverts in general. People tend to mistrust introverts as they put them in distance.

>>37663329
>Anime protagonist type
Why wont you gather group of friends and go on adventure?

>>37663133
And this non-verbal mode of thought means that until I start speaking or writing I can't fully know what I'm going to write/speak until I do, because I just have the general concept of the idea which I intuitively understand in my head but can't translate it to a comprehensive sentence or explanation others can easily understand without understanding my thought process first but thats not possible so its a struggle for me to do so, doesn't help that around high school I got anxiety and panic attacks for the first time and ever since then and now into college I get anxiety and heart goes doki doki when I raise my hand to answer a question or the prof calls on me and I can freeze up and get so anxious it becomes even harder to coherently respond without looking like a stuttering retard trying to extract the soup of concepts and inherently understood information in my head down into words, when it isnt just a one word or sentence answer they're looking for.

And I said in that post that I "used to" find the concept alien because at some point a few years ago I realized that the majority of society does think verbally, and has inner dialogue with themselves in their head and I tried it myself but it was difficult but now a few years later I can do it somewhat and there are some advantages to it over the non-verbal mode of thought but it also tends to exacerbate my OCD and anxiety I've noticed, and indeed the effects of OCD and anxiety seem somehow more intense or present when I verbally - internally vocalize them, as opossed to just getting the sensations or feelings or whatever without accompanying internal verbalizations to further add weight and depth to the anxiety, and I cannot stop myself from vocalizng them because they just come up as intrusive verbal thoughts at times of worst panic - compounding the problem - but now that I think about its not much different from an intrusive visualization or non-verbal thought, just another way of OCD materializing

>>37663329
I'm an I/ENFP-A. People flock to me and wanna be my friend
>>37663372
I did just this. Was fun

>>37663372
I keep on gathering friends hoping that they'll live up to the unrealistic standards of friendship and loyalty instilled upon me by anime and cartoons only to be repeatedly disappointed when they turn out to be shallow, self-serving people uninterested in undertaking new adventures and primarily motivated by senseless hedonism.

I feel like a complete outsider. All my relationships end up falling short and being all take and no give. Don't even get me started on women.

>>37663427
why are you on r9k?

> People flock to me and wanna be my friend

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>>37663329
INTP.

Dead on the outside, smi- dead on the inside.

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>>37650019
This, I'm also INTJ and I can't stop daydreaming all day long...

>>37663437
>Don't even get me started on women
What happens when you're with women?

>>37663354
They've got to place themselves in shoes first.

>>37663396
However sometimes internally speaking to myself when having a bout of anxiety or panic attack can be more effective than when my mode of thought was entirely non-verbal and I had to ride the wave of anxiety hoping it would end and just physically attempting to subdue it with cold water, going outside getting fresh air etc. Now I can sort of say to myself inside my head in an inner dialogue "its just anxiety I'm not in any physical danger, its this or that etc" and even when I get an intrusive OCD thought suddenly I can say to myself "oh theres that OCD again" when before it would be harder to tackle these things when I couldnt speak to and reassure myself so directly.

So those are some of the benefits of internal dialogue thinking, but I have noticed some negatives too that lead me to think its not such an effective method of thought and maybe I would have been better off not trying to satisfy my curiosity and mess with my innate thinking mode-
>can no longer speed read as effectively as I used to, subvocalizing every word I read leading to slower reading
>monkey mind and useless chatter in the mind more than ever before
>internal dialogue can give intrusive OCD thoughts more "form" and lead to stronger anxiety as mentioned
>harder to feel a quiet mind if I'm automatically voicing things internally when walking outside etc
>having a constantly going internal mental train of thought means you can't explore other trains of thought as effectively or quickly, mental chatter drowns out the more non-verbal thinking sometimes
>thinking verbally can be slower, not as quick and immediate as the non-verbal mode of thought
>instead of understanding something subliminally and immediately you instead vocalize it and verbalize it in your head sometimes which is slower and less effective

All of this leads me to believe that there are advantages and disadvantages with "inner speech" thinking and non-verbal thinking and maybe a balance of the two leading more towards

>>37663584
Most healthy Fis do that naturally. An Fe can risk being insensitive to the thoughts and feelings of others because they naturally think "well, this is what works for people like you so it should work for you too". An Fi on the other hand typically defaults to "well, if it were me, I can understand why they'd feel that way". Fis are naturally averse to group and the loss of individuality that they entail and so they're usually very resistant to just going along with what everyone else is doing. Fes are better at seeing themselves as a part of something greater and can often resent those who are unwilling to do the same. The result is that Fis can often view Fes as inconsiderate and fake whereas Fes can often view Fis as selfish and stubborn.

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I'm an INTP-A
Im also brutally honest most of the time so I guess it's right

>>37663649
The dude who was an INFP that acted like a douche-bag is likely unhealthy, but he could easily be immature.

>>37663692
Unhealthy Fis can be unbearable because they get caught in an overly defensive loop. When they feel as if their Fi values and sense of self are being put under scrutiny or attack by society and the people in it, they become overly defensive and self-centred, lashing out at others with bitterness and distrust as something of a preemptive strike. They close themselves off from people and constantly seek ways to be defiant to anything resembling popular sentiment in the pursuit of the individuality they feel is being wrestled from them.

An unhealthy Fe, on the other hand, is the kind you regularly see on /r9k/: dogmatic, aggressive, close-minded and severe. They screech at people who don't belong to their perceived group and demand that they fuck off because the existence of dissenting individuals is seen as a threat to their own beliefs. Unhealthy Fes are the embodiment of "REEEEEEE GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT"

>>37663634
-more non-verbal thinking is the ideal but perhaps its better to be very capable at one mode of thought than being adequate and switching back and forth between the two, if so then non-verbal, conceptual and partially visual thought seems to be more my style, and I'm actually working on getting rid of the verbal thinking habit I gave myself out of curiosity now because it just gets in the way more than it helps I think.

Also I fucking wrote 4 fucking posts just answering that anons question about inner speech methods, I dont really care if anyone reads this in full or not, writing it out like this has helped me to understand this all better, its always been like this, I think this is why I also have this annoying habit of having discussions in my imagination where I'm explaining concepts and things to people I know in order for me to better understand them myself, I can't stop myself from doing it it happens seemingly automatically. Writing essays like this is no big deal, its been this way since high school, takes me fucking paragraphs to get my thoughts all out and explained. Someone who thinks purely with an inner dialogue could probably formulate everything they wanted to say with perfect sentence structure and get it written down in far less words than I can but thats never been my strength.

Any anons here can relate? Do you also think more non-verbal than verbally, and not just visually either just in concepts and impressions you subliminally and immediately understand?

Also my type is INTP in answer to that post.

>>37663549
I'm not with women. xNFPs are the ultimate felers and though my E means I can often befriend women, they rarely if ever see me as a potential partner because I'm an NF pussy beta male. Most women only ever go the extra mile if they want something from me, otherwise they keep me at arm's length.

>>37651928
w-what about enfp

>>37663797
>>37648942

Also I notice now more often than not I can have a thought and concept understood intuitively and then afterwards comes the verbal processing inside, to give an internal explanation with words to that concept or thing but its often jumbled and I stop myself midway through not needing to complete the verbal sentence/thought process because its unnecessary, I already undertstand it without having to internally verbalize it, its already a fully processed thought without needing to be spoken internally which is just a waste of mental resources/time

And since I started practicing verbal inner speech that has happened more often and its really annoying, yet another reason I'm trying to let go of that inner speech habit now. Anyone else know what I'm talking about, in regards to processing a thought/concept/idea/outside scene instinctively without needing an inner dialogue in your head to do so.

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INTPs are the true robots

>>37663797
Thanks, really enjoyed your posts.
Interesting how you have problems with switching between the thought types, I use them all to varying degrees (non-verbal the most, verbal mostly just to entertain myself, pictures are sometimes useful too). I can also "listen" to music in my head and have no problems with thinking at the same time, while most people are annoyed by such things.

(INTJ)

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>>37651100
ISTP
origigiginal

>>37663329
Finally another enfp sup nigga

>>37657418
I dont think that istp one is a nick name.

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Enfp here realized were the best of the worst

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>>37651100
ENFP over here, my bud

>>37664307
Nah, ENFP are alright among normies.

>>37663951
/out/ and /trv/, lel

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>>37651100
INTP. I deactivated icons on desktop because that shit's dumb.
This is also a rotation of pictures, not just this symbol.

>>37663476
Cyborg out of choice. Played out my normie years and don't care for it anymore. You can reeeee me if you want

>>37648942
INTJ-- My inner speech is my outer speech. I'm only an INTJ b/c I was raised privileged and socially isolated-- to the point where I basically talk to myself out loud like a prisoner in solitary confinement. Started as tons of voices in my head, but age has gotten it down to two. Very dissociative, but very efficient. Power hungry, empirical, and creative like a motherfucker

Social minimalism as fuck, I try not to waste my time

>>37664468
don't forget /fit/ and /asp/

>>37664509
Was this symbol used in 20th Century Boys? High five for a great taste, m8

I'm INFP-t but I don't think this test is worth a lot. Maybe I'm just saying that because I was cucked by the answer but it's like a horoscope for modern housewives/4chan users.

>>37664594
>I'm INFP-t but I don't think this test is worth a lot. Maybe I'm just saying that because I was cucked by the answer but it's like a horoscope for modern housewives/4chan users.
Do cognitive functions one. 16meme test is bad.

>>37664594
this horoscope meme is fucking annoying. The test is simply a series of questions that ask if you're introverted or not, and so on. Meanwhile, horoscopes rely on the stars, somehow.
I'd say a person's answers say more about a person than star readings. It's overall a ridiculous comment.

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>>37663329

It feels like there's a void in me that only other people can fill. I might be getting co-dependent or something, but I don't know if the solution is to stop being like that or somehow finding a co-dependent gf and seeing what happens.

ESFJ reporting in, I still don't understand what it means desu

>>37664687
Welcome to the wonderful world of ENFP; where only the love and validation of others can fulfil that annoying niggling feeling in your soul

>>37664106
>how you have problems with switching between the thought types

I mean I think the problem is because of anxiety/OCD in general they will affect me negatively no matter what mode of thought, and maybe if I didn't have that then I would find it easier to manage, maybe.

Maybe its not so much problems switching between the two its just that this verbal thinking has become far more prevalent and I see how its not very effective and efficient a mode of thought but its only fairly recently that I realized this and recalled how I used to think non-verbally only and how drastically different it is now. Writing this fucking essay now has actually helped me piece things together, and understand my situation a little better. I mean I mentioned having these daydreams that come almost automatically of me discussing things with people in my head as a way for me to better understand them myself - and if I recall that was even before I tried to actively think verbally, so maybe its similar to that.

I can also think visually of course, but I had to kind of subdue that, and my visualization skills are weak now because again - OCD, intrusive thoughts, if you understand what I mean.

I'm glad someone read all that though, glad you enjoyed it, I find this meta-cognition really interesting, thinking about how you think and your internal thought processes/learning styles/modes of thought but they are difficult at the same time to discuss at least for me because as mentioned I have real trouble describing my thought process especially the non-verbal type because it just happens automatically and of course we rarely introspect so much as to think about our own thinking but I love doing so when I get around to it. This was actually the first time in a long while I did so, and tried to peer at and understand my own mental processes and meta-cognition, it took a lot of effort, but it was enlightening, I understand it all a bit better now.

>>37648142
ISTP. some of it applies to me, like generally being good in panic situations, learning through experience, and being bad at planning ahead. a lot of it doesn't though. i'm not great with my hands, which they seem to have put a great emphasis on, and i could never work the blue collar jobs they seem to fit, i want to be a writer.

>>37664106
I can think while listening to music with no problem, but I don't like to because I like to get lost in the music.

INFP

>>37664703
>ESFJ reporting in, I still don't understand what it means desu
>ESFJ
Are you a guy or a girl? How nurturing and caring are you?

>>37663660
the ISTP one being "it's an abstract kind of feel" doesn't really fit if this type is supposed to reject the abstract in favor of the practical. or is it an abstract kind of feel because he cannot feel the abstract? if the latter that's really good.

>>37664663
I've done that test and got answer with no positive traits (literally)
Irl I was quite good at studying and now I'm doing good in my field. I'm not out-going and all but I honestly enjoy books, anime etc - they make me happy.
This tests suck dick, I can't be THAT bad

>>37664790
I'm a guy, and I'd say I'm a caring person, I'm going through the process of becoming an RN

>>37664841
that one always gives more negative traits, don't worry. It might be a way to counter 16memes and other sites' extreme positivity.
Besides, the point is to understand the way you do things mentally. There's no bad or good.

>>37664841
>I've done that test and got answer with no positive traits (literally)
Why would you want positive traits? Everyone can write that.

>>37664681
I haven't meant it's like a horoscope but role it plays is somewhat similar to the horoscope.
And honestly it may be a little more accurate but not that much.

>>37664856
>I'm a guy, and I'd say I'm a caring person, I'm going through the process of becoming an RN
RN? Could you tell more about your personality? ESFJ's are so rare here.

>>37664856
That's wild, what brings you to /r9k/? You're a rare as fuck type around here.

>>37664892
I'm planning on being a registered nurse, and personality wise I feel I'm the overseer to my little friend group, as I plan when and where to hang out, as well as supplying food most of the time. I also grew up raising my little siblings since I lived in a single parent home, so it helped a lot with patience. I try to be the funny and bumbly guy, and I feel it works out often.

>>37664900
I came around here after my break up with a long term girlfriend, but I usually go on /fa/, /x/, and /mu/

>>37664874
>>37664866
I got rluai; other types have at least one positive trait but not this one.
And lots of this is bs, like: often bored, late with work, prone to health problems etc

>>37665000
Damn that really sounds like what ESFJ would say.
>He easily maintains relations with many familiar and unfamiliar people and remembers everything about everyone. People, in fact, greatly interest him, and he knows not only how to spend time with them, but also how to look after and entertain them. If you arrived at his house, he will bustle about around you, give you something to drink, offer you something to eat and entertain you. The thought that you are doing well and enjoying yourself brings sincere pleasure to him, and he will not hold back on his efforts to surround you with comfort. Young ESFJ male usually displays initiative himself if he comes to like someone. As a rule, he is attracted to girls who are clever, refined, and romantic in their soul. The main thing is that she supports the group or the gathering, that she is cheerful and responsive to his proposals, that she loves to walk to concerts and to social gatherings. In the matters of courting, energy and enthusiasm he has in sufficient quantities for two people. As to your encounters being interesting and diverse, it is better left to the care of his partner. If you have a rich imagination, your proposals will be met with captivating enthusiasm.
Anyway what are you doing here? I mean, you're quite "normal".

>>37665070
You can become RCUAI by maturing

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>>37665070
>rluai
atleast it's correct.

>>37661501
>discord
We have a discord with cool people, just come here. Most people there are INTP THO. (the last part of the link is Zm3kUQ)

>>37665141
Why are ESFJ women such giant bitches then?

>>37665141
I've been frequenting this board since March after a breakup with my long term girlfriend to cope with it, I decided to stick around even though I'm still not over it

Biggest MBTI r9k themed server around with active members:

Dcm6nYu

>>37665070
the direct opposite to your type
http://similarminds.com/global5/sloen.html
it's all negative imo, or it sounds like it. Relax.

>>37665195
>Biggest
No thank you.

>>37665179
>Why are ESFJ women such giant bitches then?
You're mistaken with ESFP/ENFP women. ESFJ ones are pretty motherly ones.

>>37665185
>I've been frequenting this board since March after a breakup with my long term girlfriend to cope with it, I decided to stick around even though I'm still not over it
Oh i'm sorry. You seem like a cool dude, you'll find another one pretty quick.

>>37648942
INFJ here
My inner speech probably has little to do with my personality type, but I'd say it's very similar to a very negative/critical observer when it comes to judging my own actions. When it comes to judgint other people's actions I usually try to come up with good/bad(morally) reasons for what people are doing, depending on mood.

>>37650760

I agree that this is a bad feel

>>37662510
We ISTP cannot be human in a world that doesn't accept our warrior hearts. Nobody will understand us except ourselves and those like us. Which is a very small margin.

>>37648942
ENFP. My inner speech sounds something like MF DOOM.

Good MBTI themed server to join: Dcm6nYu

We got active members and admins on.

>>37664801
Abstract feel as in knowing there is something more for you out in the world, but not knowing what it is. Typically wanting to live in a different timeline that features more aesthetically pleasing traits and scenarios that you want to see in your life.

>>37665363
Sometimes i even have to ask myself if my inner ramblings make any sense and i have to shitpost instagram pages just to argue.

>>37665264
What about INFP women?

>>37665386
fuck repost ignore

originally original

>>37648142
chad intp here
AMA

>>37648942
ISTP
I dont do inner speech kind of thing.

>>37648942
INFP. My thoughts mostly narrate my life like I'm writing a book to myself. I also tend to talk to myself as if I'm talking or making an argument to another person.

>>37665178
Such delicious irony.

>>37665408
why did you poop in my flower pot?

>>37648942
ENFJ. I don't really have inner speech as much as inner grunting noises (could just be that I'm a brainlet). Being introspective just makes me angry.

>>37665333
You sure you're not INFP?

>>37665199
Ty for trying to cheer me up anon
But this type is confident and motivated - two good traits.
I still don't belive in personality tests.

(I work in university and school simultaneously as a historian and it's one of the favoured choices of career which freaked me out)

>>37665408
>chad intp
aka a mistyped ESTP/ENTP?

>>37665399
>What about INFP women?
Their morals are above logic. They cant outright refuse do things even if it's illogical and might cause problems in the future. They are very symbolic for example burning something from ex things when relationship ends. However you'll have to wear pants in the relationship and take responsibility for making decisions.

>>37665458
>I still don't belive in personality tests.
Why? I mean they're not 100% accurate but still can tell you about thinking/cognitive patterns

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>>37664687
I think a lot of ENFPs are born out of neglect and rejection in their early years coupled with the intelligence/creativity that sets them apart from an ESFP. It's as if they spend years craving that affection that was denied to them to the point where it becomes an unrealistic, unattainable ideal which can never truly come into fruition. So they spend their later years bouncing around trying to find places to belong and people who will return their bottomless well of love.

Even when they're successful, however, they realise that nothing could ever match the unearthly vision they've based their lives around seizing. No friends will ever be that loyal. No lover will ever be that accepting. No adventure will ever be that enlightening.

And so the ENFP slowly becomes jaded and cynical, maintaining their usual outer demeanor as best they can while slowly withering inside under the harsh light of reality. The only escape is the slim chance that they might one day stumble upon an INTJ or an INFJ who can finally meet them halfway.

>>37665450
I'm very borderline with my J/P but I'm an INFJ that has severe lack of self esteem and I tend to criticize myself, that's why I said that it's mostly my fucked up view of self other than anything.
When I take my person out of the equation, I'm a perfect example of an INFJ.

>>37665458
You don't have to "belive" in it. It works perfectly, more or less well, or it doesn't work. I say it works more or less well, given the way it obtains information. Of course five words don't describe all the traumas you have had in your life: it's just that there is a group of people who share most of these characteristics.
In short, you might have good traits but the ones you share with similar people are the bad ones.
Which I guess would mean that your good parts are what makes you unique. Do whatever you want with that info.

>>37665548
>borderline with my J/P
It does not work like that. INFP and INFJ have 0 functions in common, they are quite different, especially internally
INFJ:
http://www.typeinmind.com/nife/
INFP:
http://www.typeinmind.com/fine/

>>37648942
ENTJ. My inner speech is literally Amazing Amy's voice being a huge psychopath.

>>37665586
Do you think of that voice as "yourself" though? As in that's what you truly are like?

>>37651928
>/sci/ = intj
>the one that hates theoric stuff loves science

/sci/ is intp

>>37648942
My own voice is my inner speech I guess. I'm INTP, so I dunno what you mean

Are other types retarded and not in control of their personalities?

>>37665520
It's because they all imply I'm lazy autistic piece of shit while I'm not. And thinking about my thought patterns just takes time which I can use for thinking about valuable things.
Most of this tests are kind of stereotypical, like some anon on /r9k/ - all social butteflies are bitches, robots are never at fault etc.
I think humans can't be "just 16 types". There's too many people to ever say that. Every little event somewhat shapes us into something different. So - we may have some things in common but in general everyone is a little different.
I understand it could maybe help ypu improve by showing you your weak points but weak points showed to me by that damn test are not even mine lmao

>>37665551
Weirdly enough, I took the same test for mbti on different site (the same which hosted test with less positive results) and I got intj instead of infp. Accuracy my ass

I'm an ISTP but almost all my close friends are INFP, does anyone know how this works

>>37665755
You might just be unsure of yourself. I get INFP on every test without fail.

>>37665793
You are like the strong warrior who protects the fairies

>>37665652
>the one that hates theoric stuff
>INTJ
lel

>>37665616
Yeah but I treat it like something that needs to be hidden. If someone is actually observant though, one can tell whether the voice is 'coming out' visibly from my face.

Or whenever I try to fake a smile after greeting someone, the inner voice is probably saying 'Smile you piece of shit' which can actually be visibly read

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>>37650333
do any other INTJs also daydream about this kind of stuff?

this post spooked me

>>37665926
almost everyone does that as far as I know

I got INFP-T and male, how fucked am I?

>>37666100
Let's hug, fellow anon.

>>37648942
INTJ-T
I think in words, and I don't feel like there is a distanced voice telling me what to do, but I do criticize my own ideas like it was a new me every second

>>37657418
>intj
I think I got away pretty good

>>37666100
>how fucked am I?
unless you're musician/artist no women cares about your emotional depth

I got INFP-T and female, how fucked am I?

>>37648142
ENFJ reporting in. Ask me anything as I feel i am just as robotic as all of you.

>>37666279
>I got INFP-T and female, how fucked am I?
Pretty normal, you might be a bit spergy but that will be written off as a cute perk. It's not a deal-breaker

>>37666297
>Fe dominant
>robotic
So you crave human interaction but unable to find one?

INTP and male

are there any reasons I shouldn't just go and pull the damn trigger

>>37666299
Nothing is a deal breaker with women except being fat.

>>37666319
>are there any reasons I shouldn't just go and pull the damn trigger
Can you invent teleportation device before offing yourself?

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>>37665408
On my way to becoming this

>made an entire mental map on how to act in social situations
>add some of my autistic quirk to it so normies think I'm crazy and fun
> + my fake chill/lazy front I've naturally developed to be around people
>since I'm loner as Fuck nobody sees me often, so for whatever few memories they have with me I seem like a cool guy

Playing these Normies like a damn fiddle

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>>37648142
ENTP here
Currently chairman of a small local political group
Life feels good

>>37666313
Fe dominant?? also to answer your question simply yes. long answer no. its easy for me but such a WEIRD FUCK IN MY HEAD BRO

>>37666470
Tell us more about your small local political group, comrade.

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INTJ here
my friends actually like me a lot because they think I am funny and smart, but I basically don't talk to any of them in my free time. whenever I meet them I just fake my personality to their liking. Been working nicely for a long time now

>>37666475
>Fe dominant??
>An ENFJ uses Fe to read the vibes of everyone in the room and is constantly aware of what everyone seems to be thinking and feeling. At the same time, the ENFJ uses their own mannerisms, expressions, emotions, and capabilities to influence and help others around them. When the ENFJ gets good vibes, feelings, or a sense of something that sparks the his interest from another person or group of people, the ENFJ builds on that expression via their Fe and mirrors it back to them.

>>37666529
oh yeah that all is 1000% fucking true lol in a group setting i kill it but usually their is some fucking other chad (im a big, tall >boy but some people who overtake the conversation can suck my balls)

man this is fun

>>37666354
haha doubt it

even if I could I probably couldn't motivate myself to actually get about to doing it

>>37666426
please show us this
orinagel

>>37666552
>couldn't motivate myself to actually get about to doing it
Hmm, so you'd probably need life/death situation to get yourself moving.

>>37666573
>mental map
>mental

>>37666610
I am prepared to be your student
help us anon

>>37666426
well thing is im very hadsome so i cant do autistic shit and people are like oh he is so nerdy :P
>disagree with people and wanting to argue about stupid shit makes them think you are very smart
>always having opinion also makes you smart
>autistic quirk a must
>also a loner and dont give a shit so people want to hang with me even more

>>37665444
because im a chad and i dont give a fuck about flowers faggot

>>37666647
I'm not >>37666426 so you are not prepared to be my student. I could teach you things but they're not those things.

>>37665477
maybe but i always get intp on test
are ESPT/ENTP similar to INTP?

>>37666596
Yeah, one'd certainly think that to be the case. But... I dunno, man. I think I peaked some time ago and it's looking to be a less-than-enjoyable future. Should probably get up and call it quits at some point, I figure.

>>37666742
>are ESPT/ENTP similar to INTP?
ENTP and INTP are mistyped very often but not INTP and ESTP. Besides ENTP is not Chad type, ENTP's are the most introvert extrovert type.

>>37665408 im this guy what do you want to know >>37666647

>>37666764
>I think I peaked some time ago and it's looking to be a less-than-enjoyable future
When was this "peak" time?

>>37666778
guess im an INTP inside but my upbringing made me a chad

>>37665528
This hits close to home. How did you come to this conclusion?
On a side note, what's your type?

>>37666661
>also a loner and dont give a shit so people want to hang with me even more

literally what logic does this operate under
I'm also a loner and don't give a shit yet no one wants to hang out with me

>you know Tod is really talkative and friendly and all, but THAT guy in the corner who never says anything is exactly someone I want to spend a lot of effort getting to know

>>37648142
>INTJ
oh look how edgy I am

>>37666840
But, anon...

I am ENFP.

Rimshot. Everybody laugh.

>>37666844
because when you are handsome and dont give a shit you are not weird but mysterious and everyone wants to know more about you

>>37666794
Don't know that there was a specific time, but some number of years ago. Maybe back in high/middle school? Nowadays I'm just kind of an apathetic bastard who doesn't get much enjoyment out of most things and therefore can't really be assed to do much of anything. It's more of WANTING to like things than actually liking things for the things I do get enjoyment out of.

That shit's not going to fly, I'm aware. Tried some meds, didn't do much. Whenever I try to talk about it I usually get the same old "it gets better" bullshit, followed by plenty of evidence that they are completely aware it is bullshit (e.g. a good, long rant about how much working sucks), which certainly doesn't help paint a bright future.

Shit, I feel like I've been on a gradual but increasing decline since I was fucking 10 or something.

http://falconnl.github.io/TypeSquare/

>tfw my INFP oneitis will never be attracted to me

>>37666893
sure I get that, but then it's the result of your handsomeness and not because you are "a loner" and "don't give a shit"

>>37666894
>Tried some meds, didn't do much
How about therapy? I hear that cognitive behavior therapy is really good.

>>37648142
How does one know if they are INTP or INFP?

>>37665582
>it doesn't work like that
are you implying that there is only black and white in this? there are preferences, only a small percentage of people are true introverts and extroverts. I just have similar preferences in both.

>>37666882
Guess that makes sense, brother.
It's really fun to live in the perfect future fantasies in your mind only for what you described to happen.
How are you coping with it all?

>>37666964
>How does one know if they are INTP or INFP?
Try doing this
http://www.celebritytypes.com/test/infp-or-intp.php

>>37666979
I feel like I'm slowly morphing into an ENTP dickbag sociopath. But other than that, I'm doing great.

ENTP
I'm probably the opposite of (You)
Inner speech:
I consciously think about what others think. It's like 'the mentalist' in NYSM movie. I try to put myself into other people's shoes to predict what could/might/could've happened (and sometimes even control the outcome of events).

When those people say something (to me, or to others) about others people (like backstabbing, judgement, etc.) I would occasionally vocally explain to them "what the other party probably thinks or feels" or what went wrong. It's like I'm defending them rationally while they're out.
^that thing about backstabbing is pretty common in the normie circle and I despise them.
>tfw this world is lacking rationals
>tfw fake normie but actually schizoid
I also enjoy playing farce.

I also find it hard to sympathize with others when I know that I've suffered worse or when I know they never did their best or there's nothing I can really do to help. This is the part where my inner speech short circuits.

I suffer derealization and depersonalization when I was young
>randomly too bored about reality or feel that I am not 'myself' like I'm having oobe which shows to me that I'm really insignificantly small in comparison to the whole world itself

>>37666844
Not him I'm >>37666426 but the trick is to not be a loner when around people
Don't awkwardly stand in the corner on your own while everyone's having a convo

If you have to go loner mode and disappear around people make sure it's after having fun with people. It'll make it seem as if you don't have to time to be around them and you have better things to do and this will naturally draw them towards you because they feel that you're fun to be around (this works great with girls, they love guys that don't really care about them but seem nice when they're around)

>>37666947
Also hasn't been terribly much help, I think. It's had its uses (a place to vent about various things and some assistance putting some monetary values and shit into perspective), but, overall... ehhh.

>>37648942
ENTP
see
>>37667035

>>37667002
>Slowly morphing into an ENTP dickbag sociopath
How are you going about doing that?

>Doing great
>Maintaining their usual outer demeanor as best they can
Hmm.

>>37667044
>It's had its uses (a place to vent about various things and some assistance putting some monetary values and shit into perspective), but, overall... ehhh.
Have you really wanted to get out of misery or it you've been attending for some other thing?

>>37667035
>I suffer derealization and depersonalization when I was young
What does it feel like to not be derealizing/whatever, since I'm pretty sure always am.

>>37665408
>>37666426
>>37666573
That's ENTP if you can act on your intuition and not be trapped in "the Ti halt"
>tfw smug ENTP
>life of the party
>normies invite me to going out but I'm too lazy to get out of my secret base
>"anon, we really wished you were there."
>normies like me because not an absolute judgemental dick like most normies playing the 'impress others' farce

>>37666929
unrelated to this
go to youtube and watch real social dynamics it will help you a lot

>>37667059
I feel like I'm starting to care less and less about people's individual feelings. It's like my empathy is fading away. As a result, I'm more willing to say inflammatory and blunt shit to people and am less concerned about whether or not it offends them. I place less value on peace and harmony and more on what is and what isn't. It's like I'm changing on the inside.

I think that thinking and feeling is a false dichotomy. What they're really talking about is someone's ability to systematize and empathize and while many people are better at one or the other, they are two independent metrics, not a single spectrum. You can be equally good at systematizing and empathizing so to say that everyone falls into these distinct types is wrong. Many will fall in between these types as it's not an either/or dichotomy at all. The same is true for sensing and intuition, while some do default more to one than the other, everyone uses both and some people can be high (or low) in both.

>>37667102
A little of column A, a little of column B. I've been going partially to try to get my mental state all sorted out and partially to appease my mother. Who, in retrospect, is also the one who told me it gets better before regularly indicating that no, it doesn't really get that much better. At least.

Woman also bought me a machete for Christmas after this stuff came up, which... makes you wonder, you know?

>>37667214
I fully agree with this, false dichotomies are my main issue with MBTI

>>37667156
Suddenly you feel like nothing matters and you could die of boredom. I'd rather not experience that again. Kinda happens when I'm on a procrastinating streak.
Probably my subconscious telling me to get my ass up.

>>37667002
You should watch steins;gate.
>mc guy is ENTP in a nutshell
>mc girl is an INTJ memeposter
>bonus if you have tights fetish

>>37667221
>partially to appease my mother
oh, i see, it wasnt all you who wanted to get better.
>woman
from workplace?

>>37667002
>ENTP dickbag sociopath
R-rick?

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>>37666995
Thank you anon, I guess I am slightly more INFP than INTP. I am not sure how that makes sense, INFP individuals sound naive and believe everyone has good in them to hunt for. Meanwhile, I believe there is no good or bad, but simply compatible and incompatible humans.

>>37667166
I get you senpai but I'm not that advanced
I'm never purely life of the party because of my lazy front I've made, I've just become the chill goofy guy everyone wants to see more

I wanna become more active and front and center but I'm too lazy and self doubting to go that far. Being le chill xD allows me to take short breaks of banter when around people.

>>37667176
Don't be honest about your feelings if you'll end up bruised. It's okay to lie if the outcome is better but if you can change the outcome of what's happening out of you then that's even better.
Remember that you can't force your ideal ideals to others but you can force the ideal outcomes.

>>37667317
>Sendai
F a m *

>>37667267
No, mother. Sorry if my wording was unclear.

But yeah, it wasn't entirely my decision. I'm kind of a passive person, so I figured I'd go along with it. Overall, I do kind of feel that I'm wasting her money on something that's not really helping, and I do feel bad for that, but at the same time I'm not really sure I want to suggest stopping to her, y'know?

>>37667296
>Thank you anon, I guess I am slightly more INFP than INTP.
Dont thank me yet. Those percentages shows that you could be either. Hows about doing cognitive functions test?
>http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
Post end results.

>>37666319
Isn't INTP more common in men? I'd kinda understand what you're saying more if you were INFP maybe, since it's viewed as a "feminine" type.