Socialism

People.
It works on paper but will never work in practice, ever.

>>37608850
Same with Nazism, liberalism, libertarianism, rightism, and literally everything else

>>37608831
Garbage that takes all the ideas that the Right don't wants.

>>37608831
not everyone contributes the same to society.
under socialism a doctor would make the same as a toilet scrubber

>>37608831
The computational power created by millions of people making individual price and exchange decisions freely is much, much higher than that generated by even the most brilliant central planning possible.

How much higher? Because free markets are undirected social graphs with millions of nodes and bidirectional edges, and central planning systems are directed social graphs with the nodes arranged in a hierarchy, it's SO MUCH HIGHER that the problem of even estimating how much higher is NP-Hard.

>>37608889
That's communism dummy.
From each according to his ability to each according to his deeds.

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>>37608831
cuckolds and communists
hope it's clear enough

>>37608850
It's the only system that has....

>>37608831
General idea of privacy and people liking to own their own shit instead of sharing everything.
>>37608889
I don't really think it would work like that since it seems that a socialist society would be like a a native village where everyone did their own duties.

>>37608902
What abilities would fatties have in a communist society?

>>37608831
It's easier to fuck shit up if one small group of people has all the power. Capitalism still lets you try to take down monopolies, sometimes.
In my country, we had until very recently a so-called "Cartel of the paper": the main paper dealers sold notebooks and toilet paper at very high prices and nobody had bothered to say a thing. Then, smaller groups hired lawyers who fucked their shit up.
Now I can buy the fancy brand notebooks at normal prices.

>>37608898
>tfw to smart to understand this post completely but still get an idea

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Socialism requires an increase in state power, and therefore a much higher chance of state tyranny and human suffering

Also, in my opinion, a man is not a man until he earns his living, instead of being handed a check by big daddy government with strings attached

>>37608968
The ability to feed an average-sized family for an entire month when a food shortage occurs.

In almost every civilised country that is not the US, "socialist" usually just means "Democratic Socialist", which basically just means a capitalist system with strong social safety nets, socialised healthcare, public education, etc.
Countries like Sweden, Norway, etc.

Only autistic people in the US think that folks who call themselves "socialists" are straight-up "communists".

>>37608889
That's not what socialism is at all. Socialism is a system where means of production are left to the people instead of a select few.

>>37609103
Because there's no human suffering under capitalism right

The future is Automation, AI, Universal Basic Income.

>>37609159
the means of production is a meme.

>>37609244
You are a meme, too.

>>37609160
Of course there is, human suffering will always be a constant (and I would argue is pretty much the core of all human psyche and therefore ALWAYS there)

But in a truly capitalist system, the powers that unduly cause that suffer can:
1. be sued (you cant sue a fucking authoritarian government, you get disappeared)
2. boycotted
3. mitigated because its just a corporation, not a thing with a 1,000,000+ man army

But of course you heard all this shit before but I mean really think about.
We are in an age of unprecedented human communication, a single video of a man being removed from a plane unduly (imo, but im being theoretical) caused that company to probably lose millions
People and the public have more power than ever with smartphones and twitter.

>>37608831

Because Instead of many retarded niggers competing to get something going you straight up give power to one retarded nigger to fuck things up for sure.

>>37608831
I agree with the idea that the global capitalism lead to many abuses and that we need to change that.
The problem is that I don't agree with the socialist ideal; for me dominant relations are inherent to society and wanting to create some sort of mathematical equality in between every individuals is unfair.
Tools like quotas are cancer, the only things that should prevail is merit.

>>37609297
>>37609103

Basically. Reinterating it: with capitalism everybody is competing to see who is going to rape who in the ass, with socialismthe guy caled state rapes everybody with no lube.

>could they not rape themselves

No. Humans are dicks. That's the entire point of humanity. How would hollywood make movies when theres no real conflict to relate. Good qualities like mercy have no meaning in a good society.

>>37609431
and the other side of that coin is that some people will always fall through the cracks and be useless and cant even provide for themselves, cause humans are stupid

I mean Im not a complete "muh roads" guy so I dont want to just let them die in the streets but certainly not things like free tuition and unlimited unemployment

>>37608968
>implying all forms of socialism would tolerate that
even in the most commie of the commie systems if achieved atleasat he will be public shuned like hell ontop of just for beign fat

>>37609103
Also, in my opinion, a man is not a man until he earns his living, instead of being handed a check by big CEO daddy with strings attached

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>>37609431
>>could they not rape themselves
>
>No. Humans are dicks.
Are you saying anarchism doesn't work?

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>>37609466
>not unlimited unemployment
This opinion has been rightfully discarded.

>>37609142

+1

Fuck knows how Ameripoors still don't understand this after all those time.

What incentive does the tradesman have to continue working when those who have been deemed unfit to work due to a lack of skills will receive the exact same entitlements as the hard worker?

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>>37608850
this

is not that it wouldn't work, its that it would emancipate people, and people enjoy being sad and enslaved

>>37608898
>what is market socialism
dumb dumb

>>37610071
the fact that, using technology, his labour would be as easy and as productive as the other idiots?

pushing buttons isn't hard

>>37610071

Maybe some kind of soft socialism.

>no education = barelly no wellfare, you live in trash tier communal homes

>education level 1 = tiny homes are now enabled, you get enough to chose what to eat somehow. you can hear people fucking trough walls but it's some privacy at least.

>education level whatever: has now the rights to build your own house, etc

And so on with an experience bonus. So the higher your educational level, the more wellfare you receive, plus some with regards to experience. So people with the highest amount of money would be people who have a higher education level witha high experience level.

>go to any state run place in my country for service
>bunch of fat middle aged ladies being annoying and lazy
you lose hope when you actually realize these people are supposed to help you. women's right were a mistake.

>>37610393
>welfare

please read a book

>>37610391
No technology in the foreseeable future will replace trade jobs. Plumbing and electricical systems are skilled fields that require human beings to execute complicated physical tasks.

>>37610621
>Plumbing and electricical systems are skilled fields
>Skilled
Electrician here, we're all retarded.

>>37608831
everything you fucking cucked commie

>>37608831
>What exactly is wrong with socialism?

it does not consider the original sin.

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>>37608831
literally nothing

originio

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>>37610356
>humanity has existed through 300,000 years of hardship
>12,000 of society
>to post pornography of imaginary girls getting jizzed on using a near-instantaneous communication network while arguing about politics

what a world

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>>37608831
It makes everyone equal and that triggers people that prefer an unequal world

Other people don't have the right to my property, which includes the fruits of my labor

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>>37610945
>Other people don't have the right to my property
Yes they do. Pic related.

>>37610356
>people enjoy being sad and enslaved
Why do you believe this? I for one don't enjoy being the clinically depressed wagecuck I am.

>>37608831
People are evil intrinsically it's just a fairy tale when everyone shares everything and there's rainbows and unicorns.
We are human and we work for our own interest.

Two people both have no money.
A third person needs his lawn mowed.
The third person pays the first person to mow the lawn.
Now the first person has some money and the second person has none. They have become unequal, and the pursuit of that inequality was what motivated the first person to mow that lawn.
Enforcing absolute equality is the same thing as eradicating any and all motivation to work, so nothing would get done.

Automation will change things up a bit though. I don't think getting food in your belly, a roof over your head and a solid internet connection will be a worry for anyone in the future, regardless of whether they work or not. Expenses will probably mostly be for luxury items. Don't believe me? Look at the value of food and especially water here, compared to in third world countries. Food will probably become similar to tap water in the future, completely free.

>>37611065
Why doesn't he just mow his own lawn?

>>37611085
Why don't you just farm your own cows for your burgers? Same reason, it's inconvenient and you can afford not to.

>>37608889
thats communism you utter retard

>>37608881
except with capitalism! capitalism fucking works!

>>37608831
You commie cuck.

>>37611065
>Enforcing absolute equality is the same thing as eradicating any and all motivation to work

That's not what 21st-century socialism is.

Nobody can seriously argue absolute equality -- that would imply the complete eradication of poverty, and no system or society has ever done that, or ever could in our lifetimes.

As a practical matter, 21st-century socialism tends to focus on the duty of government to keep capitalistic impulses on a leash. We know that capitalism values only profit, and ignores all other goals. But we also know that a lot of people think there should be more to life than just being a profit whore who rapes the land and its people for selfish gain. That impulse is where modern socialism comes from -- it stems from the idea that we can use government as a check against the rapist impulses of corporations, and to help make sure other values get considered as well.

I'm not trying to paint socialism in a positive light here -- I'm simply pointing out what modern socialists have now realized is the only feasible way forward for their movement. They know full well that 100% equality is a foolish and impractical dream. Socialism has changed very significantly in even just the past few decades. Many socialists were forced to admit defeat during the 70s/80s/90s, and they had no choice but to try to rebuild their movement by focusing on what is realistically achievable. So they focused on the idea that government is the only entity that's powerful enough to stand up to corporate abuses, and so government is right to step up and take on that role. Modern socialism is so watered down now that that's really about all you can accurately say about the movement as a whole anymore.

Socialism gives more power to the government and I sure as hell don't want to give them even more power. Before you know it you're entirely dependant on the government and they can control you how they like

allocatively inefficient

>>37610393
>restrict citizen's rights based on their compliance with state controlled education
what could go wrong

>>37610356
Who enforces the collective ownership of the means of production? If the answer is no one, that pretty much just sounds like anarcho-capitalism.

it don't work muh nigga.
both democratic and marxists versions of socialism
source: vietnam, laos, venezuela etc.

>>37611741
Give it 30 more years and capitalism will stop working

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>>37608850
Literally nothing works on paper. All governments are made of people.
>>37613378
This

>>37613378
you socialist faggots have been saying that since 1917.
fuck off.

>>37608831
Nothing
>>37608850
this

>>37608831
>We need socialism because under capitalism, everyone is greedy and only cares about themselves
>Socialism works because people arent greedy and care about the wellbeing of others
>?????????

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>>37613324
People they come together.
People they fall apart.
No one can stop us now.

Workers deserve to realize the full value of their labor, Anon.

>>37608831
>What exactly is wrong with socialism?
A) the world is an awful place filled with awful people who will do their best to rip off your government
B) central planning is almost impossible because central planners do stupid shit like having a single factory make every screw for an entire continent, causing uncontrollable chaos if that factory breaks down, or prevent a factory from choosing between screw suppliers, meaning the screw factory staff can be incompetent shits with no quality control without their "customers" leaving

>>37613463
So why did tens of thousands flee from Cuba?

Why was the president alowed to wase a massive amount of rescources on dairy cow breeding program/massive retarded ice cream building

Why is literacy a metric for a country?

What about the cuban death squads?

How is one vaccine a scientific measurement when evil capitalist Usa has hundreds much more meaningful inventions and went to the moon?

And why do you claim that gender equality is good in any way?

>>37608831
it's unsustainable, ideally everyone works, everyone is taken care of, etc. but it won't work because there are going to be too many freeloaders

>>37608831
-It results in lazy people being enabled
-It results in leeches
-It results in enormous quantities of government controlled resources being in the hands of politicians who can abuse them and give them to friends through (((contracts)))
-For these reasons it often manifests itself as an extremist political view and in almost all instances of it being implemented in a government, legitimate human atrocities are committed.

Source: someone who likes socialism

>>37613585
Why do Americans care about a handful of terror incidents worldwide while a hundred times that many people die every day from their own guns?

Why do people starve to death in the richest country in the world?

How does having the best healthcare system in the world matter if no one can afford it?

How can you blame socialists for a revolution in a country where 75% of the farmland was owned by the Americans and worked by slaves?

You want perfection, Anon, an impossible standard. For a third world country under constant attack from America, Cuba did pretty well, don't you agree?

>>37608831
It decreases/ eliminates the desire to work hard or work for anything
It increases sense of entitlement without having earned anything
Someone has to work to provide so they it wont be a fair work/ payout ratio
Why should the lazy profit off the hardworking?

Socialism is for the fucking naiive and those who have never experienced hardship.
If you are for socialism then give me $10000 so that we have equal wealth.
Oh wait you wont do that because youre a greedy fuck like every other socialist

inflation
oreg

>>37613675
>Using nigger crime statistics as an overall gun violence counter.
You realize outside of gang warfare America has almost no gun violence?

Starvation is never poverty related. These death come from getting lost in wilderness and eating disorders.

Do you understand the amount of unabashed fatties in the Us? We would go broke in a week

No I don't, but it doesn't excuse their missdeeds after.

We attacked them because they sided against us in the cold war and harbored nukes. We had the right to defend our interests

You have yet to answer my questions...

>>37608850
>socialism
it works you stupid faggot .. it just never gets a chance cause normies and jews stop it.

>>37613463
Hmm and their total GNI per capita is just 1.6x the US poverty line ... and that's adjusted for purchasing power. But another achievement is they execute gays rather efficiently, if you like that sort of thing.

Actually just makes me thing about what the US could accomplish if we stop spending trillions a year on dumb ass war bullshit and trillions more on bailouts for stupid bankers.

>>37613463
>Fierce economic blockade
>USA is actually the main trade partner of Cuba

Communism is a social experiment that is based on good intentions but on the practical level didn't work out. On an economic level while capitalism makes the flawed assumption that consumers make rational choices, communism makes the flawed assumption that people are motivated to make better products and to innovate out of their patriotism and love of their hearts.

Communism doesnt reward innovation and capitalism doesnt encourage competition. In fact if it were not for laws to enforce competition, the natural evolution for industries are towards absolute monopolies.

On a political level communism believes that the state can best decide the interest of its citizens and to allocate resources accordingly. Because of this communist typically funnel down to absolute dictatorships or in China's case, become a state run by the top 1% or by an oligarchy. Democratic states don't fare much better since it's a popularity contest of a politician rather than a contest of long term ideas and policies. Thereafter when they get elected, they simply are influenced by strong lobbying powers of corporations.

just watch my country, Venezuela, that's why it will never work, glad i got out of that shithole

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>>37608831
Regarding the idea of private property, I have a story which just happened recently.
>be me
>be at beach
>be looking for friend who is on beach
>begin crossing someone's property to get to their private access point to the public beach
>get stopped by owner of property
>"can I help you?"
>"yeah, sorry. just looking for a friend on the beach. He should be right back there so I was just crossing through."
>"well you can't cross through here. There's no access."
>"isn't that a staircase right back there?"
>"yes, but this is private property. The public access point to the beach is about a mile that way."
>want to say "fuck off man, all I'm doing is crossing through your yard. I don't get myself in a tizzy when i see hunters cross through my yard or when someone uses my driveway to turn around"
>instead I say "alright. Thanks, have a good one."
>come back later after finding friend and tag his house with spraypaint for being a stuck up cunt
There is honestly nothing worse than these types of people. I wish they would remove their head from their ass and get off their high horse. It's like owning beachfront property or some valuable slice of land immediately increases a person's ego by one hundred fold.

>>37613790

>You realize outside of gang warfare America has almost no gun violence?

Not him but they're still a part of yank society. You can't say "lol we would have higher scores if it wasn't for X, Y and Z" because detecting and fixing X, Y and Z is the whole point of it.

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Same reason feminism is bad.

If you're making sacrifices for people who wouldn't lift a finger for you, you're not an activist, you're a mark.

>>37608831
Just read the road to serfdom commie cuck

>>37613793
Normies and Jews encourage it. What are you on about?

>>37608831
"Yeah, our village has plenty of food to feed everyone, enough medicine to treat the wounded, enough shelter to house all of our tribesmen, and even enough soldiers to secure our boarders.

Hmm, I don't know anon, there's really nothing that needs to get done. Why don't you starve without a roof over your head because there's no more work to do? It really doesn't matter to me that we have enough to give you, a fellow tribesman, food, shelter, and security."

My job search isn't going well. Socialism sounds good to me because nobody wants to hire me. Obviously, all the positions are filled.

>>37608898
There are many answers to this question, but this is the most important one. It is not possible for any central authority to allocate resources efficiently. The only possible way for it to be accomplished is through the signals given by prices set in a free market.

Half of this thread:
Q: Why is socialism bad?
A: Communism is bad because...

Newsflash Americunts, this isn't the 60s anymore and you're not fighting against evil commies anymore. Every western society besides the US has adopted a political system called Social Democracy which combines aspects of capitalism, socialism and market regulations and sometimes even environmental protection. In the US you're either rich or poor or you work your ass off 80h a week as a corporate slave in three jobs.

>>37613585

tens of thousands fled cuba because they had their massive shitty capitalist ventures that they owned under the shitty US-backed authoritarian Batista regime seized.

they deserved it.

>>37616897
...and how well is that working out for you?
Honestly, your system is falling apart and soon the EU. If not, it will be a sad husk of what it was.

>>37614349
The point is if our forefathers made the right decision after the civil war, we wouldn't have any niggers that inflate our crime, welfare, and illiteracy rates. Biggest mistake the government ever made was to not send the slaves back to where they came from.

>>37611741
It works about as well as any other ideology. Some major flaws are the cycle of bubbles, booms, and busts, the enormous pay wall that prevents you from doing anything you want to do, creation of a heavily materialistic, vapid society of slaves to large corporations, and bribery of government officials. It's really no better than any other economic system.

>>37616998

And you think the American system is working better?

Enjoy your opiate epidemic.

>>37616897

Social Democracy has absolutely nothing to do with socialism. There is no such thing as a mix of "socialism" and "capitalism", because the two are opposites that cannot exist together.

Capitalism is where individuals own private property and the means of production is privatized.

Socialism is where property is collectively or cooperatively owned and the means of production is democratically owned.

Social democracy still has individuals owning private property, and the means of production are privatized. Social democracy is still 100% capitalism, just with welfare and stuff. It has zero to do with socialism.

Socialism isn't where "the government does stuff". Quite a few of socialists, including myself, want to decentralize the fuck out of government in fact, which weakens it and where it does left stuff.

There are types of socialism (depending on who you talk to) like Market Socialism or Mutualism that has elements of capitalism (mostly markets) but are still socialist due to the nature of property n' stuff.

However, I am happy that you didn't call social democracy "democratic socialism". So you've got that going for you, I guess.

>>37617084

>>37616897
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT, STUPID EUROKEK!

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>>37613790
>Starvation is never poverty related. These death come from getting lost in wilderness and eating disorders.

Is this supposed to be serious? Is this what the 11 year old that post on /pol/ actually think?

>>37614806
capitalism is literally built around busting your ass for people who have never had to lift a finger in their lives

>>37617277
Don't forget the part where your family doesn't receive education and then dies of starvation because you didn't have enough money to pay for it in the richest country in the world, all because schools are run for-profit and food isn't a shared resource for the needy.

>>37608881
National socialism*

You fucking commie cuck.

the real problem with socialism is it failed to implant itself in well developed countries. socialist movements were huge in the early 20th century even in the US. so huge you wouldn't even believe it today. but they were killed, not through violent suppression, but through clever negotiation. there were many reforms passed, just enough to appease the people, although I'd say they did make things quite comfortable by the 50s. however, because the capitalist system stayed in place, the capitalists did what they always do and started to influence policy again. until the 70s they were kept at bay by strong unions and electoral politics. but then porky came up with a genius plan. he unveiled neo-liberalism, to trick the proles into thinking deregulation was good for them and unions were bad. that a (((free market))) would bring about great economic growth which would surely benefit everyone. and that's how we ended up with the joke we call the modern USA, and the useful idiots in this thread who still defend porky's interests thinking it's the same as their own.

>>37610846

>government 100 times bigger and more violent under communism
>calls others bootlickers

bravo reddit

>>37617084
So you're disregarding the general definition of a Social Democracy and fill your post with unneccessary fluff without making an argument? Okay then.

>>37616998
The quality and standard of living in Europe is still higher than in the US, as it was since the 70s. Even countries from the former iron curtain like Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Slovenia are starting to have better infrastructure, workplace stability and prosperity or social security than the US. But it seems you get your impressions of Europe from /pol/.

>>37617249

nice argument you weeb faggot

>>37608831
That depends on what kind of socialism you're asking about, and to a lesser extent on how and why it's implemented.

>>37614943
The Road to Serfdom is really only applicable to the type of socialism based on replacing markets with central planning. Most socialists don't even want that any more.

Also, Hayek makes some unsupported and illogical assumptions.

>>37608850
How the fuck is that different from any other system? would you say capitalism is working when the wealth is so unevenly distributed?

>>37608831
Under capitalism I have the choice of signing away my labor to someone with the means of production, or doing what I can to acquire my own means of production.
Under socialism I have no choice but to work for the betterment of the society around me.
Under capitalism there are masters but no slaves.
Under socialism there are slaves but no masters

>>37609286
>be sued
who has the money to wage a legal battle against a corporation?
>boycotted
effective against non-monopolies, try boycotting your ISP for infringing privacy see how long that lasts.
>million man army bullshit
it is not about the number of people but the number of dollars.
>people in the public have more power than ever because phones and twitter
smartphones and twitter serve is more of a pain killer for the daily life of normie wage-cucks

>>37608831
It has some good ideas, but so does captialism and free market. A blend of the two that still implements some form of nationalism would probably work best. Too bad the closest thing that the world ever got to this ideal was demonized for the past 70 years. Nazism with a little more liberty and less bullying may not have been so bad.

>>37618072
You're a slave in both scenarios because you have zero leverage with your labor in a capitalistic system unless you're a one in a million genius and then you'd have your own company.

Because people are naturally not equal, therefore it is idiotic to try to make them. Equality is not moral.

>>37608968
fatties don't exist in communism

>capitalism and socialism are both ideologies with pros and cons
>the truth is somewhere in the middle
>I'm an enlightened centrist

Capitalism is a process that is eating the planet, completely unconcerned with what humans think. Socialism is something countries do shortly before turning into failed states.

Western capitalism has raised the standard of living for more people than any system at any point in human history.

No system is perfect but compared to a hypothetical communist utopia its the best system we've ever come up with.

During the 1970's when all the information about the soviet union came out the western intellectual Marxists changed their tune really fucking quick because even THEY couldn't hand wave away the 100 million deaths due to internal purges and famine.

Only 10% of humans today live in a free democratic society. Freedom of the press, of speech, of religion. Just try that shit in somewhere like Russia or Turkey and see how far you get.

Life sucks? You're a slave to the corporate machine? This is true and it sucks but just look where you're posting this from. The comfort of your home connected to a free internet in a society living in absolute relative wealth and prosperity.

Why don't you go tell all your problems to the kulaks of the 1920's. Oh wait you can't because they were all murdered when they collectivised the farms in soviet russia. Communism has failed in the most murderous ways in every single country those ideas were ever adopted.

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>why is socialism bad?
>communism, communism, communism
It's almost like americans (and the most retarded euros) are conditioned to dismiss out of hand anything that challenges capitalist hegemony

>>37619885
>B-but someday I might become a billionaire and then I wouldn't want higher taxes so I'm going to hold out until then. My brother won $30,000 on a scratch-off, so anything's possible, you know?

>>37613411
> since 1867
Fixed you.

>>37609159
> Socialism is a system where means of production are left to the party leaders instead of entrepreneurs.
More like that.

>>37608831
It doesn't promote meritocracy, which means no one has a reason to try hard and reach any goal.

In capitalistic system your payment is tightly connected to your skills. If you've got a knowledge of engineering, law, finance, you'll get a large salary. But if you are only able to wash floors or flip burgers, you'll get minimum wage. That's natural. Why should a manager spend a lot of money on intercheangable workers? And if they pay small wage for a talented individual, the worker would just leave to another company which pays better.

However, socialistic system either makes everyone payed almost the same or imposes more taxes on people with bigger income. That kills motivation to get more skills and work more productive since one is not going to benefit from it.

Tbh just copy the scandinavian system but dont copy their retarded bleeding heart philosophy bringing in hundred of thousands of unskilled feral immigrants and you'll be set.

>>37620317
Scandinavian countries are in decline. Almost no large companies appeared there since social democrats came to power. And the existing ones (IKEA, for example) are moving out of the country due to high taxes.

it is absurd to compare the Scandinavian countries to superpowers such as the US, UK, Australia, Germany, etc., because Scandanavia has a very different global impact. They're non-interventionalist, spend very little on military, and their economies are MUCH larger (US GDP 36x higher than Norways).

>>37620357
They're in decline because of falling birthrates and shitty immigrants, nothing some policy changes couldn't fix.

the superpowers economies*. Also, socialism claims to diminish class barriers,

https://youtu.be/xqXAW2snGMI

but instead of a lower, middle, and upper class, their ends up being a ruling class and a lower class. also, due to high taxes and tariffs, corporations are moving out and no company in their right mind wants to HQ themselves in Scandinavia. Without foreign investment, their economy will decline. Oh wait, it is already on the decline. Im not opposed to all taxes, but in moderation.

>>37620450
It started even before the arabic spring. Most of the significant Nordic companies were founded in the end of the XIX or in the fist half of XX century. Scandinavian countries are just living on their heritage without creating anything new.

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all the answers you need are right here

all man run governments and societies fail and are evil

Socialism doesn't work on paper or in practice.
As has been demonstrated ten-godzillion times throughout history.

>>37620486
love this album, based as fuck

>>37621136

but m-muh equity! Equality of outcome for all! 100 genders! smash the patriarchy!

neo-marxist sjws heads would fucking fall off if they knew their history.

>>37614128
USA is the bag guy of the planet earth