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Being friendzoned is nothing

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It's nothing compared to the feeling someone only talks to because they want to fuck you.
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>>37602121
>being rejected as a whole isn't worse than being pursued and wined and dined
Roasties
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>>37602121
>tfw deep down you know shes right but dont want to admit it
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>>37602121
The moment these whores don't have a man go after them just for sex, even if it's just for a month, they'll start begging for them to come back.
Women are fucking retarded and rarely know what they want - what's new?
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>>37602121
Only 5% of men (ultra-Chads) would be able to elicit this feeling in women.
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What she said is true. When someone is friendzoned atleast they're still able to be friends. When someone stops talking to you because you won't have sex with them it's a bad experience. Feeling valued only as a sex object and not a person.
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>>37602178

No she is not. Gtfo larpfag
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>>37602244
>actually staying friends with a girl who friendzoned you
Thats not how it works. Thats not how any of this works
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>>37602121
>just wanted to fuck you
I wanted us to live the rest of our lives together, though. Hold hands. Hug. Kiss. I've lived without sex for 25 years.
>she has had at least 2 boyfriends since you confessed and she shot you down
I wish I was still 14. Things were simple then
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>>37602158
I'd rather have friends than love

Every time a guy leaves because he only wanted to bang me, I get really sad
I really did think we were good friends

GUESS NOT
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>>37602121
it's the exact same thing chad wants, what's the problema here?
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>>37602294
STOP GIVING IT AWAY TO EVERY GUY THAT SMILES AT YOU YOU ROAST BEEF WHORE
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>>37602121
this happens to men too, not as often, but it fucking happens
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>>37602294
>implying guys can't bang their good friends
Women are all retarded. It's like you denied him a handshake and act offended he took it personal.
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imagine trying to friendzone yourself when a girl tries hitting on you online when all you want is to have a friend but she keeps pushing and you know deep down something is wrong with the entire situation but you wind up caving anyway and it turns out the deep down feeling was right all along, that you aren't ready to try something like that or worse she just wanted to get you to buy her shit
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>>37602294
From my perspective it's hard to be friends after being friendzoned. In my mind I already see you as a potential mate. For me it's harder to step down from mate to friend than step up from friend to mate. So I cut contact most (not all) of the time because I keep seeing "what could have been"

I also used to be a beta orbiter so I'm trying everything I can not to go back
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>>37602397
>Sex is a handshake!
>TFW CAN'T FIND VIRGIN GF
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>>37602365
Can confirm, the chick was well below my standards, but was easy to talk to. She told me she prayed for my death when I shot her down
>tfw she turned into a Twitch slut
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>>37602121
It's actually so much more because knowing that somebody wants to fuck you is much more rewarding than knowing that someone just wants to be friends.

Women just say that to virtue signal, but in reality they love it. When someone wants to fuck you, you have total control over that person.
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>>37602422
>Holla my good robot, let me just collect spit from all that there Chads before we have a handshake.
>What's that? I can't have Chad's spit on my hand?
>Woah, you pathetic virgin, how DARE you?
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>only fuck

Are roasties serious? Nice / friendzoned guys want companionship AND sex. And yes, every guy wants sex, but they are the ones who want not JUST sex but to get to know the girl as a person. Chad is the one who JUST wants to fuck.

Girls are just mad that ugly guys hit on them.
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>>37602281
That's how everything works, cutting contact completely like a weirdo is the reason you're being friendzoned, you don't have to be her BFF gayfriend, just be a normal human being.
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>>37602432
Men and women can be friends even if there's sexual attraction between 1 or both of them. Ditching a woman because they're not interested is a shitty thing to do. If men want sex so badly they should just get an escort.
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>>37602121
If betas are too stupid to stop orbiting a roastie, then they deserve to be friendzoned
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So because we like you as more than a friend, the friendship becomes invalid for some reason?
Friendship and love are not binary, it's not one or the other. With that logic relationships would be only for the sole purpose of intimacy.
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>>37602508

>Ditching a woman because they're not interested is a shitty thing to do.

If someone rejects you, you move on. Just like men aren't entitled to sex, women aren't entitled to friendships. Simple as that.
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>>37602508
Ditching a women because she isn't interested isn't a shitty thing to do--it's the thing a real man does because he knows a woman is only good for sex.

Betas continue to talk to women who are taken and even go on to befriend them and shower them with gifts, etc., which is a waste of the betas' time and resources. Real men will immediately stop talking to a woman if she is taken or if she isn't interested because he knows that she most likely isn't going to change her mind about the ordeal. It's better for him to invest his time and resources into another woman who is potentially single or interested.

>>37602586
This is also another excellent way to put it.
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>>37602467
>>37602553
> friendzoned guys want companionship AND sex
>we like you as more than a friend

And then completely disappearing from her life after you don't get what you want, maybe if you admitted that you only want to fuck her you would fair a little better.
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>>37602508
No, It's not a shitty thing to do, you are just being spoiled thinking that everyone wants to be your friend.
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>>37602609
>because he knows a woman is only good for sex.
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>>37602655
Prove that I'm wrong. If men were capable asexual reproduction, women would have died out a long time ago. The same goes for women.

The only reason men put up with women's bullshit is because they're hardwired to so they can spread their genes.
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>>37602632
Your ignorance of male psychology is stunning.

We want companionship which naturally leads to intimacy which naturally leads to sex. We want the whole experience.

I can't do friends with a woman I want to get serious with.

I can't do one night stands either.

It's not all about access to your holes sunshine... If it was men wouldn't end up calling escorts just to pour their heart out (extremely common)
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I'm not going to continue to be around someone who makes me miserable, even if it's not their fault.
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I've never been in the friend-zone because I haven't had any friends since I was a young child. In my entire life there has never been a person who I thought valued me as a whole person, nor has anybody ever wanted to fuck me. So, no, I can't comprehend that feeling.
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>>37602121
I cant even get friendzoned

t.no friends
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>>37602586

Then don't be a giant crybaby on the internet and to other people afterwards, maybe neither of you are, but these people talking about friendzone is only a thing because retarded betas complain about being friendzoned all the time.

These girls are right at least in that aspect, they aren't talking about guys that don't stay their friends after they reject them, they're talking about retards who complain about being friendzoned and actually believe it's a real thing
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>>37602718
All throughout my life I've had female friends who are amazing and intelligent people. Not roasties, not stacies, just good human beings, and I've learned a lot from them as a result.

You people seem to forget that under everything else, we're all just people, with unique thoughts and ideas.
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>>37602767
> Mfw I sisterzone women I don't like.

They start whining about it.
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>>37602806
I'm too shallow to care about other people.
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>>37602121
This actually makes a whole lot of sense. I would hate being treated nice just because someone wants to have sex with me.

However the friend zone implies that you're friends, as in there is a deeper connection than "he only wants for me body." If someone only wanted you for your body, you'd know long before friendzoning them and could simply cut them off. If you only just find out a friend actually likes you when they confess, then your body isn't the only element of attraction. Otherwise they wouldn't be a friend.

So either she's too dense to tell the difference between her friends and beta orbiters, doesn't understand the implications of friendship, or is purposefully misconstruing the situation to pin women as the victim of sex-starved men who only befriend them for their body in an attempt to minimize the problems men face in being attracted to their friends.
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>>37602816
Then it's their fault for being orbiters lol, they're just as bad as beta male whiners.
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>>37602492
You disgust me. Truly.
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>>37602806
You're blinded by your innate biological and cultural bias toward protecting women and you can't even see it. How pathetic.
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i never once in my life tried to take a woman into my life with the sole ulterior motive of having sex with her.
i always try to form a connection first.

too bad i'm still a virgin.
you can be the most righteous, noble person with the best intentions and still not get rewarded. this is actually worse than both of those.
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>>37602121
Her point is pretty valid, if im being honest anon.

Only recently did I learn the plight of women with orbiters. I've had a roastie going after me for almost a year, and about two weeks ago i decided to give her a chance. It fucking sucks. She only saw me as an idealized person, didn't accept any of my flaws, and thought i was perfect.

For almost a year, I called it for the bullshit it was, and kept her at a distance, but I got desperate and started dating her. She was incredibly disappointed with the person I was.


We have it easy, lads. The very few friends us robots might have, we know are genuine, ride or die niggas. If not, they at least have a few things in common with you so the conversations never run dry.

Whores have to deal with people pretending to like em for their looks and for some fug, and probably don't make many genuine friends in their life.

>inb4 "roastie spotted, GTFO normie REEEE, ect"
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>>37602244
>When someone is friendzoned atleast they're still able to be friends
It's very unpleasant to spend a lot of time around somebody you have feelings for, knowing that you cannot express them, having to constantly try to suppress it.

Every moment you spend around them just serves as a reminder that you aren't good enough, that you are inadequate.

>When someone stops talking to you because you won't have sex with them
Stop reducing every facet of attraction to another person down to "ooga booga sex".
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>>37602946
Or you're just bitter because you've never had a real conversation with a woman. And I'm not talking about idle chitchat or small talk. Like sitting outside with a smoke at 3 in the morning kind of talk.
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>>37602121
the first time i discovered women liked being treated like dirt i was 18 .5 i was teasing a classmate at uni teased her and ahe then followed me to my bench and put her head on my back then on my lap i got a boner and she rubbed her head on my dick i thibk she knew i was too aspie to do anything. Took me a year to lose my virginity and had spiradic relationships the years after but most ended because my autism kicked in eventually. Women want to fuck you when they feel inferior to you as long as you can play the part. I was a chad for a bit but with r9k mentality and skipped a lot of aex becauae i found it sad those chicks wanted me because i was fit i've always been loyal to the few i've had and all had been so i return except 1 that was a cunt then when she saw me flirting with another chick ahe came back loyal for at least 6 months before she qent back to her whorish ways.
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>>37602121

>fall in love with girl.
>get close with her to find out if single and compatible.
>yes to both by some microscopic chance
>ask her out. Get rejected.
>"you so sweet, anon! You gonna make some grrrl really happy one day!"
>cringeface.jpeg
>stop hanging out with girl cause I love her and want her and it will never be as she goes out and fucks chases
>ghost her. She calls and texts asking what's wrong. I don't respond.

>roastie goes on normiememe and whines about men who only want her for a fuck, and being in the "fuckzone".

>shes out at a bar/club/show/party a week later, slobbering over chases and getting nutted on.

Women deserve all the bad feelings in the worls.
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>>37602731
Your ignorance of human society in stunning.

It's not my fault if you're incapable of seeing people in any other level than that, it's not even a problem really, as long as you're not being a little bitch about it and just accepting and moving on. And if you're like that, fucking great, lead your life however you want, no need to complain on the internet that the girl you like didn't like you back.
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Tbh some of us don't need women friends, I would rather have all guy friends then girl friends who I'm attracted to. It's either we fuck and something happens or if nothing happens forget about her
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>>37602963
>>When someone is friendzoned atleast they're still able to be friends
>It's very unpleasant to spend a lot of time around somebody you have feelings for, knowing that you cannot express them, having to constantly try to suppress it.
>Every moment you spend around them just serves as a reminder that you aren't good enough, that you are inadequate.
This

Not to mention seeing some other guy who treats her like shit with his hands all over her but she still likes him for whatever reason even though he breaks her heart and the whole thing starts again,

You're actually protecting yourself by distancing yourself. women of course are completely selfobsessed and only see how it affects them.
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>>37603101
Your answer doesn't make any sense. Stop copy/pasta pre-made comebacks from reddit
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>>37602963
>Every moment you spend around them just serves as a reminder that you aren't good enough, that you are inadequate.
this
Being around you just reminds me that I'm an undesirable person.
Sorry that I don't want to constantly erode my self esteem by being around you.
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>>37603157
Women love being treated somewhat badly. It makes me question my attraction to them because I don't want to treat them badly but if I don't they get disappointed
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>>37603179
It's not a comeback you fucking retard, did you even read my post? If anything your response is the pre-made one.
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>>37603228
I'm not talking about being dickish, i'm talking about straight up cheating, being violent, stealing money etc.
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>>37602121

>just wanted to fuck

no really, alot of dudes are deeply in love with the girl that has friendzoned them, if they just wanted to fuck them they wouldnt give a shit
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>>37602806
I have too, but that doesn't take away from the fact that being in unrequited love with someone is made more painful for having to see the every day.
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>>37603101
>It's not my fault if you're incapable of seeing people in any other level than that
He didn't say that, you retarded fuck.

Also, to every other retarded fuck in this thread: If someone wants you for sex, that means he values you more than a friend, which is something to be satisfied with. If he doesn't want to be only your friend just because you don't return the same feelings, it's because they know you won't be more than a friend and that will constantly hurt them while they're in your presence. It's like you say:
>Hur dur, I don't like people that want me only for sex, but I don't give a shit about how they feel either.
In any case, if you're single and someone wants more from you and appears to be a decent human being AND relatively attractive and you still wouldn't try to form a relationship with him because you think you can "do better", then you deserve to die alone, rotting in a hospital bed, diagnosed with cancer at the age of 50, with no one in the world to give a shit about you. Certainly not the cock train you've been riding in 20-30.

I'm so fucking retarded I took that bait so hard. But still feels good.
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>>37602121
>being a friend is mutually exclusive with being attracted to someone
Aint that some shit.
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>>37602632
>And then completely disappearing from her life after you don't get what you want

In most cases, you would be happy and relieved if a guy completely disappeared from your life after he didn't get what he wanted.

You would only have a problem with that if he was a 10/10 Chad.
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I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that I'm not attractive.
I'm not interesting enough.
I'm not exciting enough.
I know my attention and affection is unwanted and repulsive.
I know I shouldn't have been so stupid as to think my feelings would ever be reciprocated.
That's just not something meant for people like me.
I wish I could just switch off that part of my brain, so I'd stop developing those feelings towards people in the first place.
It was wrong of me to put her in a position where she had to reject me.
It feels horrible to think my reaction to being rejected made her think I didn't value her as a person, that I just wanted to have sex with her.
I promised myself that I'll never make an unfair imposition on somebody like that again.

I just want to be able to keep to myself, and live out the rest of my life quietly, without bothering anybody or getting in their way.
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>>37603414
Obviously OP feels hurt she couldn't string Chad along...
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>>37603718
Bait. But wow
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>>37602121

Imagine being so naive you don't think any guy that wants to hang out with you (female) is after your pussy.

Imagine being so vapid that you think anyone cares about what you have to say despite having no interests outside of netflix and make up.
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Implying men have any reason to interact with women beyond sex.
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>>37602492
>cutting contact completely like a weirdo
t. beta orbiter
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>>37604230
There's at least one guy who wants to hang out with me without sex.
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>>37603718
It's a devastating kind of feel, you know
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don't wear makeup

don't dress provocative

you'll find someone

nu women are so see through
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>>37604193
>Bait
It's not bait.
I know I am a completely inadequate and undesirable person, and it's wrong of me to waste people's time with stupid delusions, especially if having to reject me is going to make them feel bad.
I'd basically be forcing her into a position where she is going to end up feeling bad, and that i unfair.
It isn't anybody else's fault that I'm like this, and it's not fair for me to burden them with it.
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>>37602258
I'm a skinnyfat manlet and date 9/10 girl. Your picture is complete bullshit.
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>>37604371
Men who actively like to hang out with you either also want your pussy or are gay. No exceptions.
Sorry, it's just how nature works.
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Imagine being completely invisible to the opposite sex.
Imagine no one even bothering to PRETEND to care about you.
Imagine being literally alone your whole life, never knowing what it's like to be loved.

Girls will never comprehend this feeling
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>>37602121
women moan about the friendzone all the time.

Waaah he wont commit to me!
how is that any different to man she doesnt want a relationship with me I was friendzoned?

both complain that commitment to a level of relationship they wanted was not met
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>>37602121
sh's probably been in fuck buddy situations so she full of it she totally okay with that arrangement.
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>>37602121
You do realize that's just to present a public image. Some girls only talk to guys because they want to fuck him. Some girls don't want that image being presented at all.
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>>37602121
That's because most women have little value other than sex. They think they have more only because their egos have been inflated by cucks and feminist propaganda.
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>>37604425
but then how will they get Chad to quickly notice them while appearing intimidating and unapproachable to everyone else?
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Twinky bisexual guy who hates himself here
I've experienced both, and being only talked to because a dude wants to fuck you is honestly better because you at the very least feel you have something to offer him.
Like at least my body pleases you.

Now simply being rejected by a girl you like sucks, but you can learn to move past it because you understand that she never liked you.

Being friendzoned by a girl who used to love you is fucking soul-crushing. just this all-econmpassig feeling of being not good enough. Your body isn't good enough. You're not funny enough. You're not talented enough. You just feel like garbage because, for all that you are capable of, it isn't enough to win her approval, which is the only approval you really care about.
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Friendzone sounds great. Willingly fulfilling your role as a living, breathing, disposable onahole is absolutely crushing.
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>>37604574
Yeah also this.
One thing I've learned from being bisexual is that women can do anything that men do, and vice versa. You can be friendzoned by a guy and objectified by a woman.
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>>37603025
Those are the women who friendzoned me, dude.
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>>37604706
I was talking about female friends and that women are good for more than just sex.
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>>37604496
Maybe becasue you jsut want sex?
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>>37603101
The communication gap here arises from the fact that normies don't actually experience emotion.

So they can have "healthy, constructive" relationships - because they aren't actually feeling anything either way anyway, they always can keep everything "in perspective".

Girl likes you? Meh. Girl doesn't like you? Meh. Girl dates you? Meh. Girl breaks up with you? Meh.

This is what normies call "maturity" and "emotional health".

So if you're upset when you watch your oneitis get fucked by every guy in town but you, and make yourself scarce, "your ignorance of human society is stunning". Because you forgot to demonstrate the principle of least interest by saying "Meh".
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>>37603718
You said what I've been thinking but couldn't put into words. I'm nearly crying as I type this but I know they won't fall. I love her. She is everything to me. We played games and skyped together, we ranted about everything to eachother. It's complicated but, I'll be short: I thought she loved me but now I think she doesn't. I guess we had a fight yesterday, and I can't stop thinking about it. She was ignoring and avoiding me. I love her Anon. What about our homecoming? What about the movie? It all doesn't fucking matter anymore. Why did I have to fall in love with you Pumpkin? It'd be better if I died.
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>>37604790
Do they really not? That's disturbing if true.
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>>37602121
imagine marrying a woman who then has a child with another man and never tells you, then she divorces you and takes the house you payed for and gets monthly check directly from your income.
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>>37603064
>fall in love with girl
>only get close to her after the fact
Truly you are the most autistic of faggots
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>>37604769
Right - but when they're like that, and not unattractive, you fall in love with them.

It's a Catch-22.
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>>37602432
Fucking this, I was orbiting the fuck out of this one girl for months, I would go over her and and spend the night a lot, hang with her and all her friends, I basically became a girlfriend to her with out even realizing it. I made out with her once after cutting her off for months. Now I completely ghosted her, haven't had a conversation with her in like 4 months. She tried blowing up my phone with texts and called like 4 times and I just ignored. A bitch needs to know her place. #MGTOW
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>>37604437
stupid cuck. You dont feel sorry for somebody who rejected you. They wronged you, not the opposite. This is why everybody walks over you.
For her to even take a position of a victim in that situation means she is a narcissistic and selfish cunt and clearly has no regards for your feelings.
People dont care if they hurt you, and you shouldnt apologize for them. You are entitled to seek companionship just as everyone else
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>tfw so ugly no one has ever even pretended to be attracted to me, let alone use me for sex
haha women have it so hard
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>>37605027
>You are entitled to seek companionship just as everyone else

And a wheelchair-bound midget is allowed to show up to the basketball tryouts as well, but it's just awkward for everybody.
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>>37605151
are you a wheelchair bound midget? No?
Fuck what the normies say. Its about your happiness not theirs. It doesnt matter if you are 25 yo KHV NEET or Chad Thundercock, you are allowed to seek happiness all the same
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>dress like a slut daily
>act like a slut to try and be cool with your friends/get guys
>"why is it that every guy that talks to me is only interested in fucking????"
It never fails, stay toasty. Don't act/dress like the only thing worthwhile about you is your body and you'll start having better luck with what types of men go for you.

>inb4 muh slut shaming
>inb4 "it's for comfort my clothes shouldn't matter"
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>>37602121
how about you just let them fuck you then
>>37602294
so why not fuck your friends then

it's baffling how bad women are at seeing the obvious solution
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>>37604371
and you'll probably want to fuck him.
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>>37602121
The majority of an attractive females male friends would fuck her if given the chance. They may not be friends with her because they want to fuck her, but they wouldn't deny that pussy.

Most women don't understand this. And when they finally do it traumatizes them.
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>>37602492
yeah i want to be constantly reminded that i'm not good enough. ahahhhhaa are you serious
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>>37604230
This, honestly. Any time a female complains about this sort of thing, it's always some basic bitch roastie with nothing else to her personality besides muh Netflix/Starbucks/alcohol/""adventures."" You're so fucking boring that of course the only people that would want to be around you are others like you or men that want to fuck your pussy/ass regardless of the drivel coming out your mouth
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>>37602632
>don't get what you want
>quit like a sane, rational person

>don't get what you want but persist
>WOW LOSER ORBITER LOL GET A LIFE

kys
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>>37604231
Anon you don't get it, women deserve nice guys who treat them right, it's their god given right. You can't expect them to put out for it. It's 2017.
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>my pain is worse than yours!
>you will never experience a pain such as this, men!
>your pain is trivial compared to mine!

This is plainly victimhood and it doesn't solve or benefit anything.
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>>37606167

I can't wait for sexbots. All these worthless roasties will wither and die without men taking care of them
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>>37606167
That's a really good screencap, it explains it so well. Women are so fucking boring, of course if a guy can't get the one worthwhile part of them they're not going to bother putting up with their shit anymore. If you're like me and you're fine just sticking with toys it's possible to live a very happy life single while also being sexually satisfied.
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Women are terrible friends however, why would I want to be """""just""""" friends with one? At their best they will do some grand gesture like organize a surprise birthday party, but only because THEY wanted to do it, not because you wanted one (which by the way is why you didn't organize one yourself). They don't give a fuck however what you want so they'll do it to feel like a good person, and somehow you're now ungrateful because you're pissed.

FFFFuck I can't stand women sometimes.
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>>37606167
>tfw no qt INTJ/INTP waifu, pic related
Why are most ladies so dumb? Oh yeah I remember, ((society)).
>sjws are just making it worse
I want jews and crypto-jews to burn for eternity.
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>>37602121
>being wanted is worse than being unwanted
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>>37602121
Bitch doesn't even realize how much privilege she has, it's so disheartening.
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>>37602121
i wonder how many guys kill themselves in that situation vs girls in theirs.
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>>37602121
I hate women logic

>be me
>don't even think I'm a person
>the random bullshit going through my mind is just that, random, hence I don't value being seen as a person
>I do care about my rights as an entity however
>women constantly violate those but pull this dumb whole person bullshit

>sometimes try to ask women a short time after meeting them (so they don't think I'm trying to be friends) if they would be open to casual sex
>I wouldn't treat them any differently whatsoever but oh noes her own neuroses prevent her from taking the same stance and somehow this is wrong
>bitch is insulted that I didn't try to form a 'connection' first and I dare to ask such a thing lmao

>meanwhile have genuine friends women who I friendzone immediately because they are friends and I want to keep it that way for logistic reasons unrelated to her
>they never get it and instead spout of some generic shit she saw in a sitcom

somehow the only way to deal with women defined as acceptable is to surrender to the power of pussy and deal with these retarded ass concepts? every different way of acting gets branded as wrong by them
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>>37608153
>>don't even think I'm a person
>>the random bullshit going through my mind is just that, random, hence I don't value being seen as a person
that's pretty interesting anon. You probably don't want to talk about it, but if you did I'd love to see more elaboration.
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