Emotional development is like physical development. There are

I'm gonna need a source to back up your claim OP.

>>37453867

>what do you mean my kids crippled just because he can't walk at 5 years old? I'm gonna need a source to back that claim up

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>>37453889
WTF ? What kind of comparison is that ?

>>37453731
you know, it's weird

they fuck with our souls until they look like a chinese woman's bound foot, then they complain that we watch anime

nigger what did you expect

>>37453731

Depends on what you mean by "development". I see people who have shame, compassion and ideals as inferior. And they are definitely more limited than me in opportunities.

>>37453889

Don't waste my time with strawmen. If you want to make me butthurt you could at least put some effort into it.

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>>37453731
What the fuck does "emotionally crippled" even mean?
>>37454315
Normies hate anybody who isn't exactly like them and/or can gain social points from by being nice to in front of others. That's why they hate autistic people so much: because we don't have any immediate "oh shit he's handicapped better take a selfie with him" signs like people in wheelchairs.

>>37454344

Tell me more, Zero

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>>37453731
Ill bite OP
Lets say I didnt experience romantic love while teenager, of any kind
Lets say I didn't had sex till I was 22, in the last months of a yearrelationship and after that... nothing.
Am I emotionally crippled?
What can I do about it?

OP is right and everyone disagreeing is either a normie or a failed normie. Get the fuck out you worthless pieces of shit you don't belong here fuck you cunts

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>>37453731
A statement without a single source, not even a shitty one. You didn't even tried.

>>37453731
EASY TO FUCKING SAY CHAD
GTFO R9K

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>>37453731
you know what ? fuck milestones and fuck society

OP is 100% correct, you all know it in your hearts.
Emotions are a muscle we never trained.

nobody is fucked

i am a 2/10 and i am married

/r9k/ is the waiting room of millenial life where those not currently winning get to complain and embellish their problems, then one day, you graduate, and you come back for the keks

can it with the self pity though. unless you are missing limbs or a nigger your life will work out.

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>>37453731
>>37455580
>>37454991
Then fucking answer me, Im already a cripple!
what the fuck must I do to un-cripple myself?
I NEED TO BE BETTER
I WANT TO BE CHAD
I WILL SPILL BLOOD IF I HAVE TO!

J-just tell me what to do senpai... please...

>>37455661
>"the keks"
tweetlord chanlet detected; get a better main, faggot

Sounds to me like OP is just making this shit up to give himself aw way out of being a massive pussy

>I never had a gf when I was a teenager
>It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to get one now

It's just an excuse so he doesn't feel pathetic because hes too scared to change

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>>37453731
This sort of thread Pleases me but also upsets me knowing i'm emotionally crippled and there is no hope for me, Unfortunately i completely agree with OP, sadly I was very cute as a child and was Treated like an gimmick not a Son

> tfw when emotionally underdeveloped neet khhv friendless hermit who is vit d deficient manlet dicklet with subhuman orbits.

>>37455703
You cant change personality disorders, exposure therapy may help but the personality disorder is stronger

>>37455699
ive been here for over a decade nigger

kek is from the WoW days

>>37455699
you forgot reddit spacing

>>37455793

thats not the same as what you are saying

I basically fit your description yet I am not emotionally crippled at all

>>37453731
being what you call "emotionally crippled" is okay.
the world has all types of people.
we don't want a world of drones who are just copies of copies; conforming to the traditional standards some people believe to be necessary

>>37455827
If you didnt date a girl during teenage years you're mentally crippled in some way this is a fact
I also consider homosexuality to be a mental illness

>>37453731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upnrXooMh4s
But i thought this song said it was ok

>>37453731
I missed quite a lot on the party.

>awkward & bullied in school
>never developed basic social functions for small talk
>forever locked in "grandiose speech in front of parliament" mode
>can't make friends
>decides not to speak at all
>no gf in high school
>virginity is my only friend at age 20

Tbqh some people don't get romantically involved as teens (or some do, and they're rejected etc) and still succeed afterwards. The base thing is I think have the ability to approach others with some confidence and the ability to make "small talk" and connect, which is the key to deeper friendships

>>37455897
No, fucking virgin

Phil Collins was a likable guy cause he had somem oney but he explained that he had his heart broken and he went into deep alcoholism or some shit

You too have a shit life, but minus Collins fame you're nothing. Like the rest of us. And as everybody knows. Even when you add a thousand zeros, the result is still zero.

>>37455670
There's nothing you can do on your own, emotional training is something you do with other people and I'm not even sure it can be done at any age.
Theoretically, a perfect girl who loves and respects you 100% would be able to get you out of your hellhole but such a creature wouldn't care about an emotional cripple. It's a vicious circle.

>>37455930
gee t-thanks, Original comment

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>>37453731
>You need to get a girlfriend, or you'll be emotionally stunted

This isn't true.
It's more important to have a job and suffer in this world.

My life is now easy because I've suffered more than the average upper middle-class American. It's not the pain itself. It's the thoughts that emerge from that pain.

I had a vacation to collect who I really am, and now, I'm a better person for it.

>>37455897
Sick tunes

>>37455882

>>37455882

I kissed 4 girls when I was 18, I'm 23 now and haven't been with a girl since I was 18, I became a NEET shut in so I had no chances

But I'm about to get out there soon so you are just wrong desu

>>37455953

You are just making excuses for your self, ypu can still change unless you are ugly as fuck

>>37455984
I always think of elliot when i hear that song

>>37453731
I was a kissless virgin til I was 19. No friends. Ive now traveled the world and am married to a babe at 34.

You're full of shit you faggot.

>>37455999
That doesn't work if you have avoidant personality disorder I feel like everyone i meet hates me since i was 8

>>37455999
>19
>Nine-TEEN
>therefore a teenager

You are just confirming OP's post.

>>37453889
I didnt talk until i was like 6, wasnt a problem

>>37455992
you're still plastic at 23 so shut the fuck up kid
I'm 36 and at that age your personality is rock hard, you can't change shit about yourself no matter how hard you try, just trust me on this.

>>37455965
We're simply doomed anon
It is our fate to lurk and weep in this place as social rejects

>>37455930
I dont know or care who phil colins is, I consider that an Elliot Rodger song

>>37456054

the Op says you are basically fucked when you hit your 20's

>>37456045
Teenage stops at 17 or 18, where do you live

>>37456078
Not that other guy but you're an idiot. NineTEEN is still a teenager.

>>37455661
I doubt you're a 2/10, your either average, a rich beta provider, or your wife's an uggo or landwhale.

>>37456078
Obviously somewhere where an AGE ending in TEEN means you are a TEEN-AGER you silly goose.

>>37456109
>>37456101

But by 19 you have most likely ended your maturing process and you're an adult, albeit a "young adult". Come on now. Teens are 12-17 max.

>>37456070
Elliot Sang Through phil colin, think of phil colin as a vessel for elliot rodger

>>37456131
Bullshit, the brain stops development at around 23 24 or in males, I read this in a brochure at a liquor shop

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>>37453731
OP's point is true in a sense. Missing these milestones might not necessarily condemn you beyond repair, but it does set you back. It's a lot like one of those shitty 'how to draw' diagrams like pic related.
Take, for instance, the act of going to a party. For normals this is an effortless, even fun task - yet for robots it's a shitshow. Why? I'd say it's because the act (going to a party) actually involves a ton of hidden, unnoticed tasks that we're not aware of. There are millions of unspoken/unwritten/unaware rules in every single aspect of common society.

So when normals give the advice to 'just get out there, bruh', they inadvertently are also saying:
>be competent in basic smalltalk
>be literate in social rules
>be able to drive/navigate
>be competent at meeting new people
>be comfortable in your skin
>don't hate yourself
>believe you're deserving of friendship
>drink & be able to do so responsibly
>etc.
In essence, I think social/emotional/human development is all like this. Competence amounts to literacy.

Trying to develop a well rounded personality & social life as a robot is like being told to play a song on the piano without training. You can't read the notes or play the keys yet. So you ask your friend to help you, but they started learning at 5 years old so they don't understand why it's even hard.
>"just, like play the piece, anon!"
>"but I don't know how...I've never played before"
>"you've heard the song and seen others play it - just do what they did"
>"but I can't read music...my fingers don't know where to go on the keys"
>"aww just keep trying! You'll figure it out!"
>"I just feel overwhelmed...it's all so confusing..."
>"trust me it's not that hard Anon! Ten year olds play this song! You just have to stop being so negative!"
>etc

tl;dr - we aren't crippled. We're illiterate. Normals' advice is shitty because they can't remember how hard it was to learn how to read - & fail to see how society is based on literacy.

>>37456186
Accurate. The brain within males develops until age 23-25. The vulnerability and malleability of the male brain is hypothesized to be the reason behind the ease with which young males are radicalized into various ideologies.

>>37456186
The psychological functions are mostly all there by 18-19. You're not gonna change between 18-24 like you changed between 12-19.

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>>37456212
how can i do any of this when i feel like everyone hates me no matter what, its been this way since i was 8 or younger

>>37456225
sorry, 18 is a dumb baby compared to a 25 year old

>>37456222
what the fuck is this Atlantic-tier hogshit
hmm yess you see the latest neuroevolutionary findingsh shuggesht that poop ish in fact food which will aid ush in devising schientifically bashed polishy

fuck off and go be a department chair somewhere else

I agree with OP completely, that is why I like the saying (stolen from youtuber Steve Hoca) " a 19 year old virgin male is a future 30 year old virgin"

This is why I am 26 and still KHV. Looks wise I didn't get my shit together until like 21, got really in shape from working out, dressed nice, got a real haircut for once. But it was too late, the damage was done. I learned quickly I don't know how to talk to girls, or people in general. I don't have the life experience, and it just got worse with time.

You can't just like "start" dating at 24 when you are no farther with women than a 12 year old chad in middle school

>>37456326

Google it and see how many peple lost their v card at 24 and tell me its not possible

>>37456256
Okay, fuck off now. Telling me that a 19-year-old pertains to a category that encompasses 12 years old rather than a category that encompasses 24 years-old is retarded

>>37456077
OP used the term teenager and everyone took it literally, like the fuckin autists you all are. Like, you're a kid at 19 and then a year later BAM, you're a man. Bullshit, you're still a kid in your mid 20s (especially this latest generation) and there's plenty of hope for change.
The ones who are fucked are the wizards, people who at 30 are virgins or have never had a serious relationship.

>>37456131
Again, bullshit.

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>>37456262
Why are you sperging out all of a sudden? Male brain development is slowed down compared to female one, but results in a larger brain in the long run. The full effects of these differences are yet to be understood.

>>37456212
That's it, perfecto

>>37456351

A lot of people won the lottery. A lot of people go on to become famous movie starts. A lot of people are in the NBA playing basketball for a living. That doesn't mean its going to happen to you, joe average.

Making things worse is that its a huge turnoff to young prime women when they find out your lack of experience (I'm not just talking sexual either). Like you have literally never been in a relationship and had a partner, you don't know the dynamics. Also if you're in your mid 20's and still shy and awkward around attractive women that's really really really bad.

>>37456368
nice p, faggot, did you find it in a box of wheat thins

>The full effects of these differences are yet to be understood.
TN: "I'm gay"

>>37456235
Wish I could break it down barney-style but I'm lost too. Personally I've seen improvement from compartmentalizing the larger goal (have a balanced, rewarding social life) into the constituent parts. I started with goals like this
>talk with one new person a week
>stay in social situations 10min after I start sperging out & want to leave
>do one of my hobbies (cooking, boxing in my case) in a group once a week
>etc.
I've been doing this for about a year and seen a lot of improvement - I'd say from 'creepy weirdo' tier to 'eccentric loner' tier. Even managed to go on a date (admittedly went poorly). I'm applying similar methods to weightloss and self betterment (improving my shitty math skills & such) to pretty good effect too.
Going step by step does wonders to help impossible odds seem possible.

Hope this helps you too, anon.

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>>37455779
I laughed

This is super original

>>37456423

I;m neither of those, I can flirt and chat with women no problem, not a single person suspects I'm a virgin because I'm just very confident and don't give a fuck, I can fake shit til I make it anyone brings it up "its been a while"

ez as pie

You know why 25 year old normal guy isn't shy around attractive women? Years of experience. He knows what women are and what they are not. He has been in relationships, he has had sex many times, he has had his heart broken and maybe broke someones heart, he has done it all. You have not experienced ANY of that, you have not even kissed. This is why you're nervous around women and its a dead giveaway you're a virgin. You're on the same level as most middle school children, and its not "cute".

>>37455779
wtf all those descriptions fit me

>>37456225
There's a fucking HUGE difference between an 18 and a 25 year old.

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the problem with your theory is that is basically false.

getting laid in highschool is probably the hardest thing in terms of achieving a milestone.
now if you talk about the 80's 70's or when people didn't need to be socially proof like today then sure i would 100% agree with you. its terrible.
most guys that told you they got laid before 18 are lying. girls in highschool don't give it up easy because rumors spread like fucking fire. and kids nowdays are jealous little cunts that will do everything to ruin something like young love.

>>37456432
At this point you are either baiting or retarded. Either way not interested in your non-arguments.

>>37456423
>Being a defeatists spergy retard

You can do it, my man.
You don't need to get an attractive girlfriend, and your life is probably going to be better if you don't.

I'm 20 years old, and I don't have much of a clue as to how to converse with others, but that doesn't mean anything to me.

There's plenty of time to learn social skills.

>>37456502
yeah one is old and unfuckable

>>37456375
Glad it makes sense to you as well. I've put a lot of thought into it and this is what clicks for me.

>>37456502

As a 26 year old, there is not always a difference at all. Life experience means more than just aging. There are 22 year olds that have lived more than 30 year olds. I know a 24 year old that is just coming out of the military (joined at 17 right out of HS) and I know a 32 year old that still lives at home and makes $10/hr. The 24 year old is way farther in life.

>>37456514

You're 20 which is still young, but too old to be a virgin. Sorry to say but you're most likely going to be here in 5 years and still with zero experience with women.

>>37456326
>steve hoca

mein nigger

>>37456626

he deleted most of his vids, I think he finally got a gf. But he has some fucking classics.

>>37456653
i watch hell by the dashboard light. some guy who steve made a comment video to. his content is like meth to me but its not always TFL related.

there is also alex ansry and steve reaction video to him is still on youtube if you search steve hoca alex

>>37453889
You had me going for a second. This just ruined it. Bullshit.

>>37453731
This picture never fails to make me sad.

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>>37453731
I'm 30.
I Lost my virginity at 16, I've slept with around 100 women and 1 dude in this time.
I'm emotionally crippled now.
How's that happen?
I was popular as fuck and now I'm an alcoholic piece of mental health nothing.

>>37457197
>I've slept with around 100 women
I assume most of them were hookers? Not really beneficial for emotional growth.

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>>37457197
any tips for the less experienced experienced?
would greatyl appreciate it.
covfefe desu

>>37456212
>Can't socialise because no experience
Then practice. Just like learning an instrument, you won't learn if you never try. I used to be terrible at talking to people, so I researched online how to be a good conversationalist, practiced in no-risk situation (go to a meet up or club for something you can talk about, and then just try. If you fail, well you never see these people again.) and now I work as a professional conversationalist at a cafe.

>>37456423
>Making things worse is that its a huge turnoff to young prime women when they find out your lack of experience (I'm not just talking sexual either). Like you have literally never been in a relationship and had a partner, you don't know the dynamics. Also if you're in your mid 20's and still shy and awkward around attractive women that's really really really bad
Says who you retard. Despite the lies /r9k/ pedals all the time, there are plenty of girls who aren't sluts. You aren't going to hook up with Stacey, but you can find a perfectly acceptable virgin qt if you bothered to look. There are plenty of shy awkward girls who don't have experience well in to early 20s.

>>37457137

>people's happiness makes me sad

Have you ever been tested for sociopathy?

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>>37457197
Why did you sleep with a man?

Do you feel accomplished/satisfied for that number? Or do you just feel women aren't as mystical or intriguing now?

What have you learned about women in a general sense?

I would love to here you stories and wisdom anon.

Also massive amounts of sex seems to hollow people. I'm not sure exactly why that is.

>>37457494
This is true, me and my gf are both 19 and have 0 sexual experience and we're discovering eachother's body, purest form of love.

>>37457494
>you can find a perfectly acceptable virgin qt if you bothered to look
Women aren't virgins by the time they leave high school and even if you manage to find one of those unicorns she'll have taken ten dicks by the end of her first week in college.

>There are plenty of shy awkward girls who don't have experience well in to early 20s.
And you'll have to make up for that by being exceptionally likable and extroverted because she can't entertain herself.

>>37456212
you people put too much thought into this. "Be able to drive/ navigate"??? If you can't drive, go learn. It's ok to be weird, its ok to be awkward, but not knowing how to drive? What's the excuse?

>>37455670
This is a really good attitude, anon.

Just don't get caught up in it all. People like to hang out with fun people that make them feel good. Just be a happy person. Make jokes with people you see in the world. Ask people if you can pet their dogs. Take up a hobby that has a community. Anything from Smash to chess. These people will play with you even if you're literally autistic. Learn to look at girls as people. If they let you down, say oh well. Eat healthy, get at least a little bit of exercise every other day, and groom yourself (no super shaggy beard or unkempt eyebrows, deoderant, shower daily,...). Practice talking to people. See a guy with a t shirt of a band you like? Just say nice shirt in passing. Be comfortable. Don't say "Um" pretty much ever. If you like a girl, ask her politely if she'd like to do something with you sometime. If she says no, just smile and say that's fine, no worries. Go out of your way to be kind. If you want friends, ask people to do stuff with you sometime. Suggest something.

Just have fun with life. Don't go burn yourself out, just be a chill guy that people want to be around.

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>>37457418
I agree. I am. I'm trying to make that evident to other robots. You can learn a language, you can learn an instrument, you can learn to function in society.
>>37458084
This is the sort of thing that makes posters 'Reee'. Try to get outside your own experience. I grew up with a horrible phobia of cars thanks to being in a collision as a child. Took me till my 20s to push myself to overcome that fear and learn. Had developed a pattern of failure socially due to being a weird kid that was ostracized. Took effort to find the motivation to improve.
Part of that, for me, was internalizing that improvement was even possible. That took breaking down large seemingly impossible tasks (stop being a fuck up) to more doable ones (gradually overcome fear of driving).

Way I see it, there's probably others here who are retarded in the same way I am/was and who could benefit like I did and still do.

>>37458305
good taste in vidya. I really think you're a special case, good luck overcoming.

>>37453731
Pretty true. I was hikikomori high school dropout who couldn't drive from 15-23. Somehow in 5 years I got over all that shit. Fucking went from complete isolation to working full time, owning a house and a motorcycle, leading teams at work and all the little shit that comes from being independent. It's incredible to me but I never lost my virginity. I have social skills to function but not to enjoy life. More nervous in a party than a job interview. I can't comprehend how people make bonds especially with females. I see fat fucks who make less than me who have kids and family. I lift weights 3 times a week and make more money, why does he get to be normal. Most days I feel nothing. I am not even motivated to chase women its like I am asexual from being alone for so long.

>>37458344
Thanks anon. Best of luck to you too.
Good comfy games do make a huge difference imo. Help keep your spirits up during the struggle.
I hope I make it, but just as much I hope many more of us do as well.

>>37453731
the real reason is that this is your only chance to have a nice relationship and have a cute girl orgasming uncrollably every time you have sex (cut the shit)

people turn to shit real f'ng quick and if you dont enjoy it while its good you will regret it for the rest of your life

>>37453731
>You need to date while a teenager. You need to experience some form of "romantic love" while a teenager.
You need to have sex (and learn the proper ways of getting sex morally and legally) while you are a teenager.
Well I failed at this already, I am 20 but the situation doesn't look like its never going to change in years.
So Whats the worse that could happen if I am emotionally handicap?

>>37458455
Because while you're obsessing over him and what he's doing, he's just doing what he wants.

>>37456046
>where do you think you are.avi

>>37456104
>or your wife's an uggo or landwhale
Wow, it's almost like you're saying a 2/10 man is going to get a 2/10 girl? What a crazy world we live in.

>>37453731
>Neural plasticity drops dramatically when you hit your 20's so these are t just things you can be a "late-bloomer" in. You NEED to hit these milestones or you will be emotionally crippled.
I remember that in the french equivalent of "junior high" (college), the other kids would form couples and french kiss in the bus for the whole ride.

During school trips, the french kissing would last hours. They would even make contests, and joke about breathing techniques etc. Many giggling etc.

>watching from a distance

>>37455661
>unless you are missing limbs or a nigger your life will work out.
not a virgin but I turned 40 (no bday party, with anyone), and the only girl I had last 15 years (for 2 years but she was only seeing me as an aside) did a successful kys in february.

Does r9k do awards?
Also you will find a few wizards.
But yeah when I see all the 19/22, I have the same thoughts as you.

>>37453867
/thread

sage

quit making excuses, op

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>>37453731
I had a gf for multiple years who said she loved me when I was a teen but I'm still a virgin because she was devoutly religious. Where does that leave me anon? I'll likely be virgin forever because I know I'll never find another girl so perfect and that everything past this point is modern females, aka used goods jumping from dick to dick until their looks go and they need a beta provider. Beyond that I would say I'm probably a normie I have a couple of good friends and I only spend the weekend alone when I choose to. So where am I on the emotional development scale anon?

>>37457197
please tell me i don't care if its bait

>>37460251

>missed a milestone
>surprised he's fucked

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>>37460987
How am I fucked anon? I make plenty of money and I'm not even graduated uni. I could fuck as many whores as I want and I'm allegedly semi-handsome, but I simply have no interest. I'm free from the roastie influence and free to live my life as I want. Maybe in the future I'll feel a sudden urge to find a female to fuck and procreate but until then I can continue to chase qt traps that actually understand me. Continue to meme as much as you like though.

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is it too late for me at 18?

shit, I have one more week until I'm 20.

OP is 110% correct.

The worst thing about this is it starts before you're fully aware of it and girls are the gatekeepers of the most important time period for when it either works out or fails miserably.

Remember when the girls were around 11 - 13 and started having parties that you almost certainly did not get invited to but maybe one or two guys in your group did?

That's when it all began. They were basically setting up the guys who were going to make it in high school with the introductory skill required for interacting properly with girls as a young man. Those first couple of years where you were invited but a little bit behind emotionally and socially were the key years for development and also, more importantly, for getting away with shit and being forgiven without much drama.

Remember how it seemed like one summer some guys just seemed to change and you weren't cool enough for them? The unconscious whiff of prime teen pussy will do that.

>>37461113

>actually believing anyone is fooled by this!

Oh dear. Nobody cares about your money or that you've warped yourself so badly mentally you want to fuck men in dresses. Compensate all you like, you're well on the path to being completely fucked.

>>37461558
>Compensate all you like, you're well on the path to being completely fucked.
>fucked by not paying child support/alimony
Enjoy your inevitable cucking anon, if nothing else I'll enjoy fucking men in dresses til they get unattractive and I can spend my money as I please.

>>37458084

>can walk anywhere in town
>can take train if going to the city

Why do I need to?

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>>37457137
same, anon.

>no girl will ever look at you like this

>>37455580

It's more like a language we never learned to speak or understand. And just like with verbal language, there is a definite cut-off time by which you need to have learned.

>>37455800

It's actually from Korean Starcraft players.

>>37461522
Fuck this is bleak. There is still a chance though past 20?

>>37461578

>fucks men in womens clothing because he failed to develop properly and is mentally ill
>calls other people cucks

I'll happily win some, lose some with women in my life over being psychologically damaged and sticking my cock into another mentally ill man

>>37455999

>19
>nine TEEN

idiot.

>>37453889
>>37454372
Technically, even though that anon's strawman missed the mark, OP's claim can indeed have validity.

For example, studies strongly suggest loneliness negatively alters the brain. A full decade of loneliness could, in theory, damage it beyond repair.

http://news.mit.edu/2016/neurons-loneliness-brain-0211

>>37461662

You're 7 - 8 years behind, so not likely. The best option you had was the start of college when all the super behind sheltered girls and the guys they liked sort of crash coursed their way into semi-normality over a year or so, but, again, if you didn't take advantage, you're definitely fucked.

>>37453731
>>37461608

why do ">ywn experience teenage love" posters always use the same few images

there must be hundreds of thousands of pictures of girls admiring their boyfriend or whatever

never understood why you guys just stick to like the same 5-6

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>>37461700

>When your brain is probably damaged beyond all repair

I'm tired of fighting, robots. Sometimes I just want to lie down to sleep. life is too stressful

>>37461663
Except you won't win anything, you'll only "won" mentally ill women who will take your time and money

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>>37461718
Agreed. Life is 99% misery, loneliness and depression and 1% happiness at absolute max. The average human lives 77 years, but what worth is it to live 77 years of pic related? 77 years of immense suffering.

I plan on becoming a martyr, and hope other robots follow suit. Something has to change. The "beta uprising" shouldn't just be a joke. It should be real. At the very least outcasted males deserve more support.

>>37461702
I'm hoping for some lucky chance opportunity either sometime before I graduate college or after. I just want to experience being in a serious relationship at least once

>>37461736

>being so omega you value time and money this badly!

The time I spend in exchange for pussy is time well spent. The amount of money involved is so negligible it's of no concern.

>>37461784
>The time I spend in exchange for pussy is time well spent. The amount of money involved is so negligible it's of no concern.
Then how is the time I spend in the pursuit of some nice boipussy any worse you discriminatory faggot?

>>37461777

You need to find that nerdy girl you know is destined to become a cat lady and ask her out on a date. Get over the fact she won't be as nerdy as you and will probably infuriate your sensibilities with her entry level tastes and just as her the fuck out on a normal date like a normal human.

Do not be her friend first
Do not wait for the perfect time
Do not pull the I should get to know her properly and text and Facebook message her for ages bullshit
Do not tell her all your deep and meaningful nonsense

Talk to her and then

Ask
Her
Out
On
A
Date

Numerous chances of gfs and sex in highschool but I put it off

Now I'm a 27 year old virgin that hasn't had a real conversation with a female in over a decade. I feel like god got upset with me and said "fine, you won't fuck when I want you to then you won't fuck at all"

>>37461823

Because you're a mentally ill, damaged person having sex with other mentally ill and damaged people. Why do you need this repeated?

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>>37453731
Bullshit. The first ppl on this planet had sex like 1-2 times in life, and they still survived somehow. And I highly doubt that they even had such thing as romantic love.
What makes you crippled is the social bullshit ideology and constant comparison of yourself to successful peers.

>>37461902
>Why do you need this repeated?
You're having sex with mentally damaged whores who have been led to believe they'll still have worth later in life despite the number of dicks they've taken. We're no different anon, despite how much you protest.

>>37461837
In this moment I feel motivated to try but honestly there are literally zero girls in my life like that. Zero.
Anyway, let's say there's a cute girl in one of my classes. At the end of class when everyone is scrambling for their ride home do you just introduce yourself then ask her out after telling her about my attraction to her??

>>37461932

>equating dicks taken as having any relevance in terms of worth.

There's nothing mentally damaged about normie women who fuck when compared to men who are so utterly warped they actually dress as women and let other men violate them.

>>37461981
But fucking women so damaged they think every dick they take makes them worth more makes you worth more than me anon, the only difference is the gender and unless you're some backwards asshole who honestly thinks he's superior in they eyes of your average normie we're no different. But enjoy your delusions either way.

>>37453731
>You need to date while a teenager. You need to experience some form of "romantic love" while a teenager.
>You need to have sex (and learn the proper ways of getting sex morally and legally) while you are a teenager.

So what about the huge proportion of males in human history who did not do this and who lived in cultures where sexual access was limited to marriage which was only available to established men in their 20s, including all of my european ancestors for the past 1000 years?

Take your shaming tactics and broscience and shove them up your ass.

>>37456225
As someone who is 25, you do change quite a bit.

>>37462061

Nobody thinks that dick = worth, anon. Try existing in reality instead of telling yourself that as you continue to justify sticking your cock in a damaged man in a dress.

>>37453731
don't need to have sex while a teenager to be normie

t. normie

>>37462129
>Nobody thinks that dick = worth, anon
Then you've clearly never talked to a modern roastie. Enjoy living in the past.

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>>37453731
That picture is either from my high school or bears an uncanny resemblance to it (the cheerleader uniforms, everything). Either way, fuck you for reminding me of those days.

>>37462129
>telling anons to exist in reality

you're barking up the wrong tree

>>37461890
yeah, I have the same problem, had opportunities in school, but blew it off. Now I just work and virtually have no contact with any women. At least high school forced interaction with hundreds of females, I don't have the social skills to do online bullshit, I'm fucked. I'm 37 anon, it doesn't get better.

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>>37462276
>tfw you were homeschooled throughout all high school
>never had the benefits of forced interaction

I will literally never hold a conversation with a girl in my entire life

>>37462276

I never had opportunities in high school (I had the uggo trifecta of acne, glasses and crooked teeth)

>>37455661
Thanks

Oreobalogna

>>37455661

How does it feel to be raising your wife's son?

>>37453731
So what about most Christians? I guess they're just fucked for life.

Or you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and are making excuses for yourself.

>>37456046
Yet here you are

Origami fami

>>37456510
What you've run into there, my friend, seems to be either a woman or a redditor who sincerely believes the human mind has nothing to do with the physical body.

>>37456046

You're extremely lucky. Cut-off point for language skills is about 9.

>>37456046
Nobody likes your autism dude.

>>37461890
How do you define a 'real conversation'?

Whether or not you're emotionally crippled, the real reason for you being fucked unless the hit developmental milestones is that nobody wants to baby you through 24-year-old virgin sex or relationships or whatever.

This thread makes me sad. I thought I was completely emotionally crippled at one point too, but that changes if it becomes a matter of death. You would be surprised at how simple it is to approach a cute girl, they take it like quite the compliment too.

Never rely on a woman to make you fulfilled or happy. This should be a product of your own merit. Life is long, really damn long. In a year you can achieve lots: finding new friends, a career, independence, etc.

Remember that your self inflicted worthlessness radiates, to women especially.

I have had two mutually loving relationships, but haven't started until I was 27. I thought I was crippled too at one point, but I fought it off. Just try for fucks sake.

>>37453731
Neuroplasticity dips at 8-10 years old, shoots back up at 18-19, then trails off in a linear fashion as you get older. The initial dip dip will be the lowest point until you're about 50 years old.

Similarly, the milestones in your life are still achievable and the brain is still able to imprint with them whenever you get around to doing it, so don't worry about the timeframe so much.

OP is a faggot.

>>37464119
Christians fall for the ''positive thinking'' meme + it's easy for them because most of them are not actual robots and it wouldn't be a problem for them to find someone, since they're the biggest normies out there (look at the mormons and their fake kindness). They can easily find someone who is just like them and for the most of the time they don't care about the appearance, they're spiritual and shit so ''muhh personality''. Basically it's just easier for them because they blind and delude themselves and don't want to accept reality.

>>37465195
>Remember that your self inflicted worthlessness radiates, to women especially.
It's not self inflicted you fucking RETARD!

Women treat inferior (short, ugly, dumb) men worse than Chads every day. They are what made us like this. For treating us different based on things out of our control. THEY ARE AT FAULT!

>>37465309
what he's trying to say, and that you don't understand, is that if you constantly appear negative and act in a negative manner, people will notice and treat you differently, you have to put forth a bit of effort to make yourself at least appear/act confident and happy
I know it kinda sounds like I'm saying "hurr just b urself xDD" but that's not really it at all, if you're expecting something outta someone, you gotta put in some effort yourself
also there's a thing known as a "self fulfilling prophecy" where if you think something might happen, you'll cause it to happen and it'll reinforce your initial biases
if you're not a complete sociopath or autistic beyond repair, you just might be able to make a decent impression on someone

>>37459752
sorry for you bro

>>37453731
oh come on, you really believe this shit? use your mind power for useful thoughts, not negative ones that will only hold you back and make you miserable

>>37465381
And what I'm trying to say is that people treat you differently for your looks regardless of being positive/negative. Being a negative fuck sure perpetuates it, but still, it starts with looks.

Put in effort when I'm already starting way behind the starting line? Oh and the best thing? Normies decide where you start!

>>37465424
do you have any major physical deformities? does your resting face look upset/angry? were you genuinely hit with the ugly stick? what's your face look like because it can't possibly be that bad, again simple shit like smiling or something eases tensions if you're not forcing it
even then there's plenty of ugly fucking potato faced retards that manged to get friends/GFs because they have enough confidence
>inb4 b-but it's probably just because they're rich/successful

>>37465469
>do you have any major physical deformities?
Sure. I'm short and my penis is small.

Also you're missing the point. The point is not that I could get a gf. The point is that I have to work hard and get a lower quality woman than Chad for almost no effort. That's the problem here.

Rehabilitation is a process that renders the best (and possibly the only) results in the first year.
I recently found out the first 20 years of life are the most important, everything else will be just comparing and remembering that time. If you haven't enjoyed life in the first two decades of your life, everything that comes later will be either a chore, or feel fake, and you'll subconciously find ways to feel miserable and nostalgic.
Being brought up by a single mother, and still being treated like a retard child and having my life sabotaged by her at age 25, let me tell you - there's no way to hide those scars.

>>37465503
well your attitude isn't very helpful at all
it sounds like you don't want a genuine companion but rather a hole to fuck, and you're sperging out because it's not a supermodel either
you basically not very different than chad except that you;re unsuccessful at it and you're also blaming things that are out of your control
maybe you'll find a good mate one day, but you're looking at everything in the worst possible way
also realize that chasing after vapid whores that only care about height or dick size is worthless in the long run

>>37465585
>you basically not very different than chad except that you;re unsuccessful at it and you're also blaming things that are out of your control
Yeah no fucking shit. I'm basically a Chad without the height, looks and dick. You say "blaming things that are out of your control". Do you think they are not to blame? Do you think they don't play into it AT ALL?

>also realize that chasing after vapid whores that only care about height or dick size is worthless in the long run
Every woman does. Sure, they will pretend like they won't, but if we take their short, small dicked husbands and make a replica of them that is tall and has a big dick, they would be happier with them.

Women aren't companions. Women all deserve to die for choosing Chads over me.

>>37465615
if you performed a genuine bond with a decent human being you'd realize that they won't care about you not being tall enough or large enough, your thinking is way too narrow and short-sighted (pun half-intended)

>>37465667
You are naive. Normies usually are. You're probably tall, attractive, hung or whatever. And you will try to say your success is due to attitude and not genes.

Retard.

>>37465696
no I'm a complete shut-in and a NEET but I'm not clouded by a complete hatred for women, sure I've seen plenty of stuff about roasties and shit but I don't desire roasties, I'd rather try and get w/ a QT pure girl instead, even if that ain't happening anytime soon, call me naive and optimistic but I can't help it sometimes

>>37465727
It's okay. You're gonna learn.

On the other hand, if you're okay with women picking tall and attractive men over you (both of which is out of your control) and you're okay with that, then you're a retard.

This is wrong. I had a queue tee gee eff when I was a teen and now I'm an asexual volcel.

>>37453889
that's a false equivalence